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Not really the same

The team is not going, the coaching staff is going. Much like last year when they did the same thing at Florida Atlantic. So not really following Harbaugh on this...

Fwiw, I think the most

Fwiw, I think the most important coach we (the buckeyes) have is coach mick (s&c). With the exception of Meyer of corse. They pretty much run the off-season and what he does with our players is simply amazing.

Maybe so at prominent high

Maybe so at prominent high schools and or in prominent hs football states. But in states like Michigan where the high school football is viewed as mediocre at best, they need universities to help try to establish a reputation. Specifically major universities. Things happen from time to time in recruiting, so if i am a college coach and I'm watching what this cass coach is doing it would make me think twice before going to that school for a kid. Like i said before, i think what happened with Weber is unfortunate, however things like this happen and hs coaches typically don't go on radio stations and tv shows to cry about it. The only point I am trying to make is that this coach seems to be going over the top for some reason and it seems to be more than "my player got screwed because his position coach left for the nfl".

Even as a Buckeye fan, I

Even as a Buckeye fan, I don't believe I could root against that kid. Great story

Forgive me for not being in

Forgive me for not being in tune with this situation as much as most of you, but doesn't this seem like this Cass Tech coach is going a little far with this? I mean at the very least what ohio state did was a little questionable but it seems like he is doing his best to help sway michigan kids to his ol buddy jim. Possibly setting himself up for a future job? I've read many times on this vey site about how kids should commit to a school not a coach and read thank you quotes to some of Hoke's commits for doing so. IMO, this coach is doing his school a disservice by acting like this. Cass Tech / Michigan HS athletes need OSU far more than OSU needs them. Again, I don't condone what it appears happened but it seems like this guy has other motives for his reaction.

Shane has looked good, but

Shane has looked good, but hoke and co. better learn to develop talent or you guys are in deep trouble. Every player on that team looks as good if not worse than they did last yr. Hoke is like the saban for college kids, recruits highly rated players that never get better whereas saban sends studs to the nfl that never get any better

good luck

Good luck tonight fellas, here's hoping you can start a winstreak for the B1G this bowl season

Johnny football, cam, the

Johnny football, cam, the bama kid that got a "loan" from a coach, nothing happened to any of those programs, and dont get me started on miami. USC gave kids and their parents money and sometimes houses to come there, thats a competitive advantage, ohio state players came to Ohio State won awards and then traded them where is the competitive advantage? Like i said, tressel lied about it ok i get it, but there is no comparison to USC or Miami for that matter.

Actually, the play was over,

Actually, the play was over, and the offense was making it's way onto the field so Braxton was supposed to be on the field. What more did you want out of the tattoo thing? We lost arguably the best player in college football and a coach that owned the big ten for a decade? To go along with the bowl ban, vacated wins, and scholarship reduction (no matter if you think three per year is a big deal or not). I think that was a pretty steep price to pay for trading awards that you earned yourself for tattoos worth was less than the awards. I get it, it was against the rules and tressel was less than truthful but to act like we weren't punished is just not true

LMAO, you guys should be

LMAO, you guys should be proud of your team

Crickets huh?

Crickets huh?

Amazing how gibbons can shut

Amazing how gibbons can shut a thread down everytime here lmao

I have heard that nobody has

I have heard that nobody has been dismissed yet, that being said najee was taking 1st team reps at nickle, which in a 4-2-5 means he is a starter. Out of curiosity, was gibbons allowed to stay on the team to try to make your attrition better?

I have heard that nobody has

I have heard that nobody has been dismissed yet, that being said najee was taking 1st team reps at nickle, which in a 4-2-5 means he is a starter. Out of curiosity, was gibbons allowed to stay on the team to try to make your attrition better?

I wasny even alive for most

I wasny even alive for most of the cooper era, but ok if you say so. Relying on the past like your university lol

Why arent you interested in

Why arent you interested in hearing from the guys parents/family? Or how about bill and bob with the pats who decided he was doing so well he deserved to get a 40 million dollar paycheck? He gave a recommendation for a guy who seemed to be ok to draft in the 4th round

Tressel was forced to step

Tressel was forced to step down because his players decided to sell their own shit to a guy that was wrapped up in some big time shit, kinda like what happened with charles woodson except he just took the money and gave the guy nothing in return. ( oh, and there was no problem with that in the eyes of the ncaa) If you want to act like what tressel did was un holy or whatever thats fine, i wouldn't expect much else. I would hate on a guy that kicked my ass for a decade too, but again what does tressel have to do with anything we've been talking about

gimme a break

ALL coaches will tell nfl teams to draft their players. And further more if i was urban and the patriots or anybody else asked why i recommended him i would say for the same reason the patriots gave him a HUGE extension. If he would have been causing problems or seemed like he might to you think the the all mighty belichik or bob krafy would have gave him that extension... please smh

I'd also like to say that I'm

I'd also like to say that I'm not that fan that would make shit up to make my teams rival look bad. Unlike a lot of Michigan AND Ohio State fans, I do want to see anything "bad" (sanctions and things) happen to the rival team. I would feel very little pride in rolling Michigan for the next 10 years IF it were because your team was hammered by some kind of sanctions. I would enjoy the wins but I'd rather both teams be at full strength when we beat you.

Not making anything up

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fannarborchronicle.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F11%2FComments-for-the-Regents-Meeting-1117111.pdf&ei=-ajYUY3QEq-34AOr24GYCw&usg=AFQjCNGL8QOjdvtOS2j_SQsMoA9thoBPVw&sig2=bCICsLLOMBI4veFgJkxj3g

 

Here's the link to the statements from a UM professor with the police report attachments. You can google the name for the "brunette girls" comments and such

Thanks for posting, I never

Thanks for posting, I never saw the breakdown like that. Tell me though, I understand and agree that the volume is pretty large but which incidents on there do you not agree with the punishments or lack there of? And talking about sons joining Urban, When are you going to blame the parents who raised these kids for 17-18 years before they even got to Urban?

Lol most of the "coaching

Lol most of the "coaching lineage" you refer to came from that shithole of a state a long with most of your talented players. Whats worse? Covering up a rape or covering up some free (paid for with personal property) tats? What does this have to do with the op?

It is? You have more Ohio

It is? You have more Ohio State and Urban Meyer posts here than 11w. I never said I was offended just trying get a little clarification on the thought process that goes into blaming Urban Meyer for the Aaron Hernandez thing.

Sooo let me get this straight?

Urban Meyer is at fault for a guy who spent three years of his life around Urban, then three years later kills somebody? So is it Michigans / Hoke's guidance that your rapist kicker claims his game winning field goal against tech was because he was thinking of brunettes?

Sooo let me get this straight?

This guy has 2-3 incidents while at Florida (did he get charged in any of them?) Spends a total of 3 years with Urban Meyer, leaves and spends 3 years in New England (where there were no trouble issues right?) and it is somehow Urban's fault he decided to murder a guy?

uhhhh? that last three

uhhhh? that last three "welcome" post would be a good place to start

uhhhh? that last three

uhhhh? that last three "welcome" post would be a good place to start

drops mike walks of stage or

drops mike walks of stage or what guys?? I come here to "argue" a little bit and everytime i post on here it gets quiet, i take it as well as i dish it and i expect it to be rough sailing here so lets hear it lol

I'm not trying to be

I'm not trying to be irrational guys,just saying last week you were moving on cause he was a buckeye now hoke is better than meyer and bla bla bla

congrats!! last time i

congrats!! last time i checked academics didn't win championships on the field, thats about all you can claim since 1948 huh? I know 97, no campionship game and the coaches voted for nebraska. I'm usually not a dick on here until somebody else is. That and I've been drinkin a lil. As I said, we/ I wanted him you got him but it is june

Lol i get being excited as i

Lol i get being excited as i said he is a good player id like to see in scarlet n gray but you dont win championships in june

Im a firm believer in wait

Im a firm believer in wait for 4 years to judge a class but how is the may/ june recruiting title any less irrelevant than the 12-0 rings we distributed and less impressive? You have done that 2 years in a row now

come on??

Berger hubbard booker jr and raekwonn mcmillan>>>> after mitchell and tre johnson last year. I admit after the perkins transfer i wanted chase but you act like you just won the b1g after gerting a kid who could be a special teamer or the next jake ryan/ aj hawk congrats on getting him he seems like a good kid and hope he turns out great/good but pump the breaks a little guys its june

Not trying to be a smart ass

Not trying to be a smart ass but whsts with the denard love affair? What was his w-l record while at michigan? I know he was 1-3 (2) against the buckeye . He was exciting but out of all the qbs at Michigan really denard?

Not trying to be a smart ass

Not trying to be a smart ass but whsts with the denard love affair? What was his w-l record while at michigan? I know he was 1-3 (2) against the buckeye . He was exciting but out of all the qbs at Michigan really denard?

Not trying to be a smart ass

Not trying to be a smart ass but whsts with the denard love affair? What was his w-l record while at michigan? I know he was 1-3 (2) against the buckeye . He was exciting but out of all the qbs at Michigan really denard?

Dont get me wrong with the

Dont get me wrong with the comments about last years team, i dont think they were a great team. But to me it is even that more impressive when they can go unbeaten learning a new scheme coming off a 6-7 record and i dont care who was on the schedule last year

I dont think the buckeyes are

I dont think the buckeyes are number 1 either 2 behind bama is not far fetched. But come on with the, they barely won a couple games that should have been blow outs crap. Pretty sure every unbeaten team in recent memory has had close games. And with back to back years of new coaching staffs i dont really get the ohio state cant play d anymore,,, the talent is there and now had a year to learn the scheme. Hopefully this year we can be the third "worst undefeated" you have ever saw behind last year and 2002

http://www.google.com/url?sa=

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faol.sportingnews.com%2Fncaa-football%2Ffeed%2F2010-09%2Fheisman-watch%2Fstory%2Fheisman-turns-to-whos-most-socially-acceptable&ei=T5twUcibMtGn4AOZ14CIDg&usg=AFQjCNHlIkVpnwXIuAzxXOVhBgQn62Tbfw&sig2=kN9tVXTMV7xbQQHj1vJrUQ

Tressel called Michigan that

Tressel called Michigan that team up north most of the time too. He said Michigan on occassion but for the most part he called them that team up north. I guess Urban is a little more hell bent on not saying the word Michigan

Woodson testified in front of

Woodson testified in front of a grand jury in some guys grand larceny case that he accepted money from a booster if you were being serious

Actually urban didnt start

Actually urban didnt start that, woody hayes started that a long long time ago

Atleast the kids in tat gate

Atleast the kids in tat gate sold stuff they earned, more than what woodson or the fab five can say, they just took handouts...

Again, none of the people

Again, none of the people responsible were with the team anymore. Is it the greatest thing ive ever saw..no but i fully understand why urban would want to thank the kids that stuck around and played hard every game when there was no big 10 championship or bowl games they were going to be able to play in. Remember these kids could have transferred without having to sit out a year, so i think he did the right thing in honoring them.

Lol what asterisk? Those

Lol what asterisk? Those games were not vacated, just wasn't allowed to play in the B1G Championship or a bowl game. So if anything the national championship may have an asterisk or the rose bowl.

Michigan fans would be jacked

Michigan fans would be jacked about the rings had your team gotten punished for the woodson thing and went undefeated but nobody recognized them for it. At the end of the day nobody on that team had anything to do with why they were not allowed to go to a bowl game and the B1G gave them a trophy for winning the division so who cares if urban wanted to recognize a team for going undefeated regardless of what you think of our schedule? Going undefeated in the B1G is a hell of an accomplishment, undefeated for a season... doesn't happen very often.

I actually posted "good luck

I actually posted "good luck now go get louisville" on this board after you beat syracuse, I added that i wouldn't be pulling for you come football season but I did give well wishes, but I'm glad basketball is over so I can stop that lol

I agree that the refs really

I agree that the refs really sucked and definetly didn't help your cause but i think even without the refs, you all got out coached, and louisville looked like they wanted it more down the stretch. If burke doesn't sit as long at the end of the first half i think that could have changed the swing there and at the end it just looked like louisville was working harder... The fouls were 22-15 with 3 or 4 of michigans coming at the end to try to extend the game and michigan was in the double bonus forever in the second half there. Again, i think the refs contributed but i don't think you can put it all on them. Great season though, i think they represented the B1G very  well and let the bashing on me begin.

Great job michigan, now go

Great job michigan, now go take louisville... PS i will not be this encouraging during football season lol

Great job michigan, now go

Great job michigan, now go take louisville... PS i will not be this encouraging during football season lol