Im putting myself down. I love the kid and hope I’m wrong about everything but he forces the ball under pressure, never threw one single ball away in college because he thinks he can extend every play, etc. if the biggest Michigan fan can take off their homer glasses, michigans offense leaves open just a lot of questions because you really don’t know. Right now he is Zach Wilson to me which isn’t a negative by any means (as I think he was put in a fairly bad situation to develop)
In Kysre’s defense… she did have her dad die and she did get beaten by Kevin Porter Jr so you could say she is going through it. Not to mention her sister’s husband, Dwayne Haskins, is dead now too. I also believe her grandfather passed during that time frame (I may be wrong on that)
She is on pace…..you obviously don’t actually watch or haven’t seen her play. Clark’s game is not as compete as plum or Ionesco.
Juju is the most complete player to ever play the women’s game. no player has her height and her fluidity. She plays almost textbook. Has a handle and great elite footwork and change of pace. also a great defender. She will be the scoring leader barring injury. She is already on pace.
She is also a three level scorer unlike Clark who is es pretty limited in actuality.
It’s not even illegal now. You can set up recruits with people who are willing to give them money, literally nothing wrong with that. nor is what that person wants to do with their money.
With all due respect the bar is pretty low right now with nobody really caring about Michigan basketball. He could win 4 games next year and people would understand because of our roster. If he goes .500 he would be pretty beloved
Let’s be honest. Michigans #1 and #2 receivers are our TEs. Also being our #1 receiver means your counted to block, a lot, more than a lot of other teams tight ends.
schematically, we shouldn’t be getting 4 star WRs.
Honestly the bears are in a terrible position, kind of, well to the point of they have to draft Williams. Starting the year he was supposed to be generational. he is still mostly deemed the best QB in the draft. They can’t really pass even if they don’t want to draft him
Honestly the bears are in a terrible position, kind of, well to the point of they have to draft Williams. Starting the year he was supposed to be generational. he is still mostly deemed the best QB in the draft. They can’t really pass even if they don’t want to draft him
We are going to be terrible next year no matter who coaches. We don’t spend the money to catch up and make a makeshift recruiting class and we aren’t good at taking in transfers…. We might be the worst team in the history of the program next year.
i also feel bad for guys like Saddi who could have been head coaches in prior years and that ship has probably sailed.
Howard has to go but whoever coaches Michigan next is severely handicapped. quality basketball players are much more limited than football and you need to pay to get them. We can’t ever sign a top 150 recruit and should we find a diamond in the rough, they would either go to the NBA or transfer to a NC contender for money like Hunter
The Bears literally had the easiest fix in the history of football and they wanted to do it. All they had to do was sign Harbaugh to coach. They would trade back in the draft. Draft Brock Bowers, and you have Cole Kmet as your tight ends with DJ Moore Justin fields. Draft is stronger old line. You now have a great running game with a great running quarterback, and a big wide receiver and two. Now you control the clock and field possession.
Honestly, as far as measurables. Isn’t his comp Zach Wilson? Athletic ability, stature and accuracy issues. Other than sleeping with his moms milf friend, Wilson has shown no character issues.
IMO which doesn't mean much, he put on too much "thickness" and still isn't 100% from injury. He didn't look as explosive or as quick throughout most of the year.
I would expect him to lose some lbs and come in the 4.5s at the combine. I actually think he may test better here than we think with work on his starting time and his shuttle work basically benefiting his 40 plus the 40 specific work he does.
With that being said I believe his "explosive" numbers will be minimal. I see his long jump and vertical being pretty poor.
An undersized, 2 down back that doesn't have speed to break a long one is a tough sell in the NFL these days. Most accomplished RB in Michigan history but won't even have a quarter of the NFL career Chris Evans is having.
This would be dumb and also probably never going to happen.
For one, wasn't one of the reasons for our turnaround being going younger and having more "enthusiasm?"
And an older guy who has been in the NFL for over the last 15 years and is getting NFL DC looks, does not want to recruit a bunch of 14 to 18 year olds all year long.
JB is a much better college coachthan Howard, BUT he would not be doing any better at Michigan right now. He would get his lower rated recruits, he would develop them, they would get pretty good, have no real NBA shot but would get offered a pretty nice sum of money to play somewhere else and take it. This would leave Michigan with a limited roster of kids who aren't ready. I think JB would struggle in this era.
Howard is like Penny Hardaway. Not really a great coach but can recruit. Penny just has a checkbook and Howard doesn't. Makes Howard pretty mich useless as that would probably be his best asset.
Also, it kind of marks the end of the Fab 5. They were kind of fully accepted back, even had some mini reunions. IF Howard is fired, In sure Jalen will scorn the university, Howardwill be pretty mad, CWebb never really cared anyway. They will all kind of just be truly forgotten along with Michigan basketball in general for as long as NIL is similar to its current state
I'm tired of it as well but it doesn't affect recruiting at all like we think. The money we don't pay up front affects recruiting. Kids aren't going to choose a stable Harbaugh at Michigan versus a million dollars to go to Bama or LSU.
An NCAA fanbase turns on you quicker than an NFL one. I being one of the ones who wanted him fired after the covid year. Obviously my tune has changed....
He basically has three bosses in college. The NCAA, the big 10 and Michhigan. The NCAA hates him and keeps trying to suspend him. The Big 10 basically the same. I believe some people at Michigan would still rather he be gone. Who would want to come to work every day knowing your bosses are trying to make up ways to get you in trouble.
Culture hopefully built that will stay but we are losing a lot....not to mention it's hard to find a good QB and we don't even have an idea of who will start next year. Our schedule is brutal. He is as hot a name as he will ever be again. He was almost ran out of town and now is cemented twice as a michigan legend. Honestly, he should go. There are a lot of good NFL openings. He should really go if given a good opportunity. Also gives him more time to work on his family life.
Definitely Mullings. In 2022-2023 I didn't like that we started using him as a power back. He didn't seem to actually have much push to me and just ran straight. I thought Donovan would have did the same and not have fumbled...
This year, he has showed his quickness, ran tougher abd looks like Haskins 2.0.
With that said, I don't see it with Don. Upright, bad vision, doesn't break tackles, has no wiggle, doesn't push the pile. I actually don't think he should. come back because he already had a bad year and then he would follow it up with still not being the starter with Corum gone.
Draft experts said they reached for Gibbs, Campbell and LaPorta. Some thought Gibbs was secretly targeted by other teams but Campbell was never going to sniff anywhere close to the first round.
Honestly, and this usnt even a slight against MSU and Dantonio, I'd lose respect for them (not that I have any) ig they weren't doing in person scouting against us for every game we played. honestly, it seems pretty logical and I would expect then or any other obsessed rival to do the same.
What do we think of Washington and Texas then? Isn't Washington similar to TCU except with a better defense and better offense? You can say the same with Texas.
I'm of the belief that Michigan is built to beat Ohio State but not necessarily built to win the NC whereas Ohio State is more built to win the NC but not to beat Michigan.
If Michigan ever gets down 10 or more it's hard gor them to comeback as that's not how the offense is designed or where JJ is comfortable.
Let's not give Poole any relief though...He is off of that team because they all hated him. He is basically a team cancer right now. If they liked him even a little it would have been their perfect time to move on from Draymond
To my eye, Corum doesn't ook like nearly the back he was and Edward's looks like he aged 10 years overnight. He seems to have no juice. The guy runs so upright, and isn't shifty. I swear he can never get the edge this year. Also, every tackle the guy takes is hard. He does t have that great football sense of knowing how to fall.
JJ never gives up on a play. He has never thrown a ball away, he will scramble and throw back across the field. I worry he is going to be very turnover prone in the pros. Honestly, him and Zach Wilson have a lot of similarities.
with that said, Bama now is light years ahead of where they were when they played Texas. Milroy improoved tremendously throughout the year. Using that game as a measuring stuck shouldn't even be accounted for.
One of my best friends was a walk on at Miami YTM, around 2001. I talk to him after the game ever year as he is from Ohio and a huge OSU fan.
Long story short, his laments both died this year and he has been traveling back and forth to their house doing stuff and was driving home during the game and only listened on the radio. Said that he called about 80% of the plays OSU ran. He hates Day, made multiple comments about his play calling. Complimented Meyer because in their NC game he referenced a run Olay they kept running over and over because it was working. Then he referenced how OSU had control of the game after their last touchdown running the ball only to go 3 and out without running the ball on their next possession.
The guy is a great football mind and much of what he says when he gets going is over my head.
He has some crazy stories about those times though. Ended up medicaly retiring from a goaline hit from vernon Carey in practice.
I think being able to be drafted mid late first round, still getting first round money, but being able to play for a better team is worth it. Think of him on the Falcons or Patriots. The Saints would be great. He'll, the has actually
Probably the worse take ever. Bryce us really really good and is going to win a heisman there if all pans out. He will have better numbers in one season than he would put up his entire career here. He is going to get paid more to go there and come out getting drafted highly. Plus, the LSU women...
He will grade out well at the combine and will get drafted in the first round. He has some very big holes in his game. Does he throw a ton of interceptions, no, but he throws a lot of balls that should be intercepted. I believe he will be a turnover machine in the pros because he never let's a play die. I don't think he has ever thrown one ball away. He will ALWAYS try and fit it in somewhere or will take a huge sack trying to scramble backwards.
JJ would benefit being drafted by a better team with more of a supporting cast around him.
He also still has a horrible deep ball in that he bever puts air under his throws.
JJ unfortunately not win the heisman because we have the stupid allegations going on. NCAA won't want to have him win the heismn if they plan on hitting a michigan with something ridiculous
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Im putting myself down. I love the kid and hope I’m wrong about everything but he forces the ball under pressure, never threw one single ball away in college because he thinks he can extend every play, etc. if the biggest Michigan fan can take off their homer glasses, michigans offense leaves open just a lot of questions because you really don’t know. Right now he is Zach Wilson to me which isn’t a negative by any means (as I think he was put in a fairly bad situation to develop)
In Kysre’s defense… she did have her dad die and she did get beaten by Kevin Porter Jr so you could say she is going through it. Not to mention her sister’s husband, Dwayne Haskins, is dead now too. I also believe her grandfather passed during that time frame (I may be wrong on that)
She is on pace…..you obviously don’t actually watch or haven’t seen her play. Clark’s game is not as compete as plum or Ionesco.
Juju is the most complete player to ever play the women’s game. no player has her height and her fluidity. She plays almost textbook. Has a handle and great elite footwork and change of pace. also a great defender. She will be the scoring leader barring injury. She is already on pace.
She is also a three level scorer unlike Clark who is es pretty limited in actuality.
Clark will fade imo. I don’t see her being a star in the WNBA. I think Bueckers is better as a pure PG.
Also, Clark isn’t even the best woman in college basketball. That easily goes to Juju Watkins
I remember when Casey Mize was going to be good…
I would love to see us add their top three and Malik Mack, freshman guard from Harvard would actually make us pretty good quickly.
How often does he dunk?
It’s not even illegal now. You can set up recruits with people who are willing to give them money, literally nothing wrong with that. nor is what that person wants to do with their money.
With all due respect the bar is pretty low right now with nobody really caring about Michigan basketball. He could win 4 games next year and people would understand because of our roster. If he goes .500 he would be pretty beloved
Let’s be honest. Michigans #1 and #2 receivers are our TEs. Also being our #1 receiver means your counted to block, a lot, more than a lot of other teams tight ends.
schematically, we shouldn’t be getting 4 star WRs.
Honestly the bears are in a terrible position, kind of, well to the point of they have to draft Williams. Starting the year he was supposed to be generational. he is still mostly deemed the best QB in the draft. They can’t really pass even if they don’t want to draft him
Honestly the bears are in a terrible position, kind of, well to the point of they have to draft Williams. Starting the year he was supposed to be generational. he is still mostly deemed the best QB in the draft. They can’t really pass even if they don’t want to draft him
With that being said, Jordan Poole seems to have become one of the most unlikable teammates in the NBA, while also becoming one of the worst players.
We are going to be terrible next year no matter who coaches. We don’t spend the money to catch up and make a makeshift recruiting class and we aren’t good at taking in transfers…. We might be the worst team in the history of the program next year.
i also feel bad for guys like Saddi who could have been head coaches in prior years and that ship has probably sailed.
Brandon Jacob’s needs to be with the Auburn backs
I could recruit a 5 star rb if you gave me a blank checkbook too.
Howard has to go but whoever coaches Michigan next is severely handicapped. quality basketball players are much more limited than football and you need to pay to get them. We can’t ever sign a top 150 recruit and should we find a diamond in the rough, they would either go to the NBA or transfer to a NC contender for money like Hunter
The Bears literally had the easiest fix in the history of football and they wanted to do it. All they had to do was sign Harbaugh to coach. They would trade back in the draft. Draft Brock Bowers, and you have Cole Kmet as your tight ends with DJ Moore Justin fields. Draft is stronger old line. You now have a great running game with a great running quarterback, and a big wide receiver and two. Now you control the clock and field possession.
I should have seen this before I posted…
Honestly, as far as measurables. Isn’t his comp Zach Wilson? Athletic ability, stature and accuracy issues. Other than sleeping with his moms milf friend, Wilson has shown no character issues.
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IMO which doesn't mean much, he put on too much "thickness" and still isn't 100% from injury. He didn't look as explosive or as quick throughout most of the year.
I would expect him to lose some lbs and come in the 4.5s at the combine. I actually think he may test better here than we think with work on his starting time and his shuttle work basically benefiting his 40 plus the 40 specific work he does.
With that being said I believe his "explosive" numbers will be minimal. I see his long jump and vertical being pretty poor.
An undersized, 2 down back that doesn't have speed to break a long one is a tough sell in the NFL these days. Most accomplished RB in Michigan history but won't even have a quarter of the NFL career Chris Evans is having.
Draymond is actually pretty smart and will become one of the best analysts or commentators once he retires.
all past players that wanted actually got paid as well, albeit a small amount in their lawsuit
This would be dumb and also probably never going to happen.
For one, wasn't one of the reasons for our turnaround being going younger and having more "enthusiasm?"
And an older guy who has been in the NFL for over the last 15 years and is getting NFL DC looks, does not want to recruit a bunch of 14 to 18 year olds all year long.
JB is a much better college coachthan Howard, BUT he would not be doing any better at Michigan right now. He would get his lower rated recruits, he would develop them, they would get pretty good, have no real NBA shot but would get offered a pretty nice sum of money to play somewhere else and take it. This would leave Michigan with a limited roster of kids who aren't ready. I think JB would struggle in this era.
Howard is like Penny Hardaway. Not really a great coach but can recruit. Penny just has a checkbook and Howard doesn't. Makes Howard pretty mich useless as that would probably be his best asset.
Also, it kind of marks the end of the Fab 5. They were kind of fully accepted back, even had some mini reunions. IF Howard is fired, In sure Jalen will scorn the university, Howardwill be pretty mad, CWebb never really cared anyway. They will all kind of just be truly forgotten along with Michigan basketball in general for as long as NIL is similar to its current state
Germaine Crowell, Bryant Westbrook, Terry Fair. and Aaron Gibson because of his giant helmet. Man, those days sucked...
I'm tired of it as well but it doesn't affect recruiting at all like we think. The money we don't pay up front affects recruiting. Kids aren't going to choose a stable Harbaugh at Michigan versus a million dollars to go to Bama or LSU.
He should really just go to the NFL.
An NCAA fanbase turns on you quicker than an NFL one. I being one of the ones who wanted him fired after the covid year. Obviously my tune has changed....
He basically has three bosses in college. The NCAA, the big 10 and Michhigan. The NCAA hates him and keeps trying to suspend him. The Big 10 basically the same. I believe some people at Michigan would still rather he be gone. Who would want to come to work every day knowing your bosses are trying to make up ways to get you in trouble.
Culture hopefully built that will stay but we are losing a lot....not to mention it's hard to find a good QB and we don't even have an idea of who will start next year. Our schedule is brutal. He is as hot a name as he will ever be again. He was almost ran out of town and now is cemented twice as a michigan legend. Honestly, he should go. There are a lot of good NFL openings. He should really go if given a good opportunity. Also gives him more time to work on his family life.
Definitely Mullings. In 2022-2023 I didn't like that we started using him as a power back. He didn't seem to actually have much push to me and just ran straight. I thought Donovan would have did the same and not have fumbled...
This year, he has showed his quickness, ran tougher abd looks like Haskins 2.0.
With that said, I don't see it with Don. Upright, bad vision, doesn't break tackles, has no wiggle, doesn't push the pile. I actually don't think he should. come back because he already had a bad year and then he would follow it up with still not being the starter with Corum gone.
Looks like we have our next Erik All
Draft experts said they reached for Gibbs, Campbell and LaPorta. Some thought Gibbs was secretly targeted by other teams but Campbell was never going to sniff anywhere close to the first round.
Honestly, and this usnt even a slight against MSU and Dantonio, I'd lose respect for them (not that I have any) ig they weren't doing in person scouting against us for every game we played. honestly, it seems pretty logical and I would expect then or any other obsessed rival to do the same.
Let's not exaggerate, it was 1200
I'll tell you what, CJ Stroud, as of now, appears to be almost a generational QB, and they couldn't win with him...
What do we think of Washington and Texas then? Isn't Washington similar to TCU except with a better defense and better offense? You can say the same with Texas.
I'm of the belief that Michigan is built to beat Ohio State but not necessarily built to win the NC whereas Ohio State is more built to win the NC but not to beat Michigan.
If Michigan ever gets down 10 or more it's hard gor them to comeback as that's not how the offense is designed or where JJ is comfortable.
Let's not give Poole any relief though...He is off of that team because they all hated him. He is basically a team cancer right now. If they liked him even a little it would have been their perfect time to move on from Draymond
I have been a believer in Juwan and still wish I wish. He had had some incidents which I have probably based on bias given him a pass.
With everything, why is he on the bench, but not as the HC. He can travel and be on the bench, coach from the bench, but not be a head coach?
in general, how is that good for the team? You can't have two talking heads
To my eye, Corum doesn't ook like nearly the back he was and Edward's looks like he aged 10 years overnight. He seems to have no juice. The guy runs so upright, and isn't shifty. I swear he can never get the edge this year. Also, every tackle the guy takes is hard. He does t have that great football sense of knowing how to fall.
JJ never gives up on a play. He has never thrown a ball away, he will scramble and throw back across the field. I worry he is going to be very turnover prone in the pros. Honestly, him and Zach Wilson have a lot of similarities.
how does it account for Washington in that all the defenses they played were terrible?
with that said, Bama now is light years ahead of where they were when they played Texas. Milroy improoved tremendously throughout the year. Using that game as a measuring stuck shouldn't even be accounted for.
I will say it's hard to think a high WR recruit watches Michigan and thinks, I can't wait to go there and block. I assume Clemons transfers out.
One of my best friends was a walk on at Miami YTM, around 2001. I talk to him after the game ever year as he is from Ohio and a huge OSU fan.
Long story short, his laments both died this year and he has been traveling back and forth to their house doing stuff and was driving home during the game and only listened on the radio. Said that he called about 80% of the plays OSU ran. He hates Day, made multiple comments about his play calling. Complimented Meyer because in their NC game he referenced a run Olay they kept running over and over because it was working. Then he referenced how OSU had control of the game after their last touchdown running the ball only to go 3 and out without running the ball on their next possession.
The guy is a great football mind and much of what he says when he gets going is over my head.
He has some crazy stories about those times though. Ended up medicaly retiring from a goaline hit from vernon Carey in practice.
I think being able to be drafted mid late first round, still getting first round money, but being able to play for a better team is worth it. Think of him on the Falcons or Patriots. The Saints would be great. He'll, the has actually
Probably the worse take ever. Bryce us really really good and is going to win a heisman there if all pans out. He will have better numbers in one season than he would put up his entire career here. He is going to get paid more to go there and come out getting drafted highly. Plus, the LSU women...
This is actually very poor logic.
He will grade out well at the combine and will get drafted in the first round. He has some very big holes in his game. Does he throw a ton of interceptions, no, but he throws a lot of balls that should be intercepted. I believe he will be a turnover machine in the pros because he never let's a play die. I don't think he has ever thrown one ball away. He will ALWAYS try and fit it in somewhere or will take a huge sack trying to scramble backwards.
JJ would benefit being drafted by a better team with more of a supporting cast around him.
He also still has a horrible deep ball in that he bever puts air under his throws.
I think the biggest question is will Stallions become the Bartman of Michigan Football?
JJ unfortunately not win the heisman because we have the stupid allegations going on. NCAA won't want to have him win the heismn if they plan on hitting a michigan with something ridiculous