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|19 weeks 4 days ago||I won't mince any words||
The B1G titie is more of an afterthought to me. When you say "the leaders and the best," you're forcing a comparison with, well, pretty much everyone.
With that in mind, I'd say the goal should be to have a perfect season and win the national championship. Win the B1G, but lose to Notre Dame? No thanks, not good enough for me. You have to beat the primary rival, which will always be Ohio (Yes, that Ohio), not Sparty. After the Ohio State game, beating Notre Dame is the next most important game on the sked, regardless of the fact that it doesn't impact the B1G.
What's the definition of an ideal season in our lifetimes? '97 was obviously the best. After that, I'm really tempted to say '99, even though we lost to Sparty. Comeback wins over Ohio, Notre Dame, Penn State and Alabama, with our team nationally recognized. In '96, the college football world was howling with cries that "the Block M stands for mediocrity." By '99, those claims had been silenced. A 3-season record of 32-5, highlighted by a national title, three bowl victories and winning 3-season records against all major rivals will tend to do that for you.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||National Championship is much bigger. Don't kid yourselves.||
I'm 49, old enough to have a fairly large storehouse of Michigan memories, and as time goes by, "winning the big one" means more than merely hovering around the top. I follow football a lot more than I follow hoops, but I can still remember where I was when Rumeal Robinson hit those two free throws. Going to the dance is nice, but winning it is much more enjoyable.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||Good for Nick. He deserves it.||
He suffered through some down times at UM, but he's a good kid who knows the game. Those who stay, after all.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||Line looks great, but Green would be very nice.||
Treadwell? *Sigh* Life goes like that sometimes.
|21 weeks 5 days ago||I may be a tad old school||
but I still prefer Sports Illustrated to ESPN. I think it's a generational thing; folks over 45 prefer print to TV or online material. Always loved Frank DeFord, Dan Jenkins and Paul Zimmerman, among many others.
To respond to your original comment, sadly, few people outside of our fan base pay attention to Denard unless we're seriously winning, and let's be frank, this year has been meh at best. Is it difficult to get excited about a center, or an offensive lineman in general? Sure. But Jones plays for one of the elite teams in the country. And before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, yes, we're still an elite program, but UM just hasn't had a particularly outstanding season this year. If we'd won those games against ND, Nebraska and Ohio, Denard would certainly be on the list.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||I'd agree with that last statement.||
Dantonio's days of ruling this rivalry are over. MSU is back to hoping for regional supremacy, something nobody in their right mind cares about anymore.
Dantonio's career ascendency was effectively ended once Meyer took the job at MSU. Dantonio never said so publicly, but you know wanted the job as Ohio's coach.
|24 weeks 4 hours ago||Please, no divisions. Back to the future! 1969, here we come!||
|24 weeks 20 hours ago||Ace, assuming Treadwell is gone, could UM take both||
McQuay & Crawford?
As somebody who believes in the old axiom "defense wins championships" and vividly remembers the cream-of-the-crop secondary of Woodson, Weathers, Ray & Hendricks, I'd love to see UM unleash McQuay/Crawford/Conley/Thomas/Wilson/Webb/Countess, et al. on opposing offenses.
Just food for thought.
|24 weeks 22 hours ago||Yes to tradition, no to divisions||
Yes, I qualify as an old guy, but please, can't we go back to the Big Ten that we knew and loved in the '70s? Enough with all this expansion already. 12 teams in the league is ridiculous to begin with. Why couldn't they stop at 12, figure out some way to rescue the scheduling alliance with the PAC-12 and move on?
Believe me, I'm all for the modern age, with UM adapting by getting faster, quicker players, and playing nationally ranked teams that positiion UM for a shot at the BCS title, but some things are sacred. The final game of the regular season should be against Ohio (State). There shouldn't be any division or sub-divisions when it comes to the Big Ten.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||Don Corleone, we humbly beseech your help!||
We haven't cheated on our wives or done anything wrong. We'd just like to have a perfect season with a national championship. We don't see riches, women, or vices. Perhaps you could persuade our ballcarriers to hold on to the ball better, or our defensive players to wrap up better when they tackle? We've heard that Luca Brasi can tackle well. If Luca's otherwise occupied, then what about Al Neri? He used to be a cop; he must have had some occasion to tackle someone.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||Proud of the effort, not the results||
Yes, I know we played a nationally tough schedule (finally). I know we had tough road losses to stud teams in Alabama, ND and OSU, forgetting the Nebraska game. Our seniors showed plenty of character, and even guys who had been immature grew up and worked hard, so there is that.
Four losses? Let's not tout that for being a very good season. Let's say this: Our team has great potential, as many other teams do. Now, it's up to us to work extremely hard to correct this season's mistakes. Unfortunately, we lose some valuable folks. That having been said, we'll get some good new faces in here.
There are a lot of things that need to be addressed. Let's work hard and address them. We can win big if we reacher higher and work harder. Hats off to our opponents. No trash talk, just plain old hard work!
|25 weeks 2 days ago||Here's the thing: I'd be||
Here's the thing: I'd be excited about this if I were sure that Treadwell would wind up at UM. My gut tells me there is as much chance he'll wind up at UM as there was that Jordan Diamond would wind up at UM. Treadwell's recruitment has unfolded in much the same manner as Diamond's recruitment unfolded. We hear how much the player loves Michigan, yada, yada, yada, but then the guy quietly slips away.
I don't blame you for following recruiting: I follow it as well, and it is exciting when we get a four-star or five-star player. But until the kid actually shows up in a maize & blue uniform, he's not a Michigan player. Beyond that, there is always the chance he'll leave before we see his best, (Drew Henson), transfer to our archrival (Justin Boren), transfer out because we're not the right fit for him (Sam McGuffie), or just kind of fade away (Tate Forcier). One of the great things about senior football players like Denard Robinson, Jordan Kovacs, Kenny Demens, and Big Will Campbell is that they had opportunities to leave, experienced frustration, and dealt with adversity, yet they each stuck it out. Think about that phrase, "Those who stay will be champions." No, these guys never won a national title or a B1G title, but they showed incredible character by persevering when things got rough. Will Campbell isn't the first guy to struggle to fulfill his potential, but he kept on pushing, volunteered for a switch to offensive line, lost weight when a new staff came in, volunteered to break down meetings, and generally took on a leadership role. Denard could have left when RichRod was fired, but he didn't. And when he got injured, he adapted and found other ways to contribute, instead of passing. Jordan Kovacs had to struggle just to make the team in the beginning, but that didn't deter him.
Would I love to see Treadwell in a Michigan uniform? Of course. But if we don't land him, then let's go to battle with Jeremy Jackson, Jehu Chesson, and Amari Darboh. These guys are here, and they're working hard. Sometimes it's smart to dance with who brung ya.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||I'm sorry, I meant since||
I'm sorry, I meant since 2006. We had a chance to win that game as well.
Let's work hard and make this team better. No need to spit at our rivals. That's time that could be spent lifting weights, watching film, recruiting players, coaching up our guys, etc.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||You know what? We lost. Our||
You know what? We lost. Our guys played hard, and played the best they've played in Columbus since 2000. But we lost. Hats off to the Bucks.
We have a lot of work to do to improve, and it's time to be humble, support our guys, and make sure they do that work.
|26 weeks 2 days ago||Students should be allowed to donate their tickets||
If these students don't really want to attend (boggles the mind; after all, it's only the biggest stadium in the country featuring the winningest college football team of all time), then they should be allowed to donate their tickets for kids in C.S. Mott Hospital to use. Those ill children would get the thrill of their lives, and they'd appreciate it. For some of the students, football, and all of the tradition that is Michigan, just isn't worth it. Again, I can't relate to these kids in any way, shape, or form. I've only had the pleasure to attend two games at Michigan Stadium, the unveiling of the halo in a loss to Donovan McNabb and Syracuse in '98, and the '99 game against Ohio when my wife was pregnant in '99. i felt honored to be at both, and witnessing "The Game" in person is something that any fan -- Michigan fan or not -- should experience once in their life.
OK, I'm going to sound like an Old Blue here, but how is it more appealing to recover from a hangover than to experience the greatest collegiate sports tradition in the history of mankind? In honor of Thanksgiving I'd suggest these kids try to appreciate this tradition and all that it stands for. People of all races, creeds, backgrounds, religious beliefs or lack thereof, all supporting a glorious academic institution that does college football the right way, while wearing the greatest uniforms, greatest helmets, singing the greatest fight song in the greatest stadium. It doesn't matter what culture you're from, where you grew up, whether you have money, or anything. That, without question, is a tradition for the ages. That is worth appreciating.
|27 weeks 2 days ago||Ace, that description really nailed it.||
For 59 minutes and some-odd seconds, I was frustrated by this game. Then, in less than the final minute, and through several plays in overtime, everything suddenly jelled. Difficult to understand? Absolutely. But I'll take it, no question about that.
|28 weeks 1 day ago||Dennis Franklin scored when it was 10-3.||
First, Lantry hit a field goal, and then Franklin scored. In the final minutes, Lantry missed not one, but two field goals. He was a great story, a Vietnam vet who had returned to play for Michigan. Despite those two misses, he was a very good kicker, and should be remembered as such.
The truth? No, that '73 team didn't win a national title, but they didn't lose a game all season. Next year, they should be honored at The Big House for their accomplishments. For a lot of people my age, that was the team that made us diehard Michigan fans. Paul Seal for president!