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|4 days 12 hours ago||At this point, every ensuing game is his biggest||
I think there may have been some bigger games in the past three-plus seasons than Utah, but at this point, every game ahead of him is his biggest game at that point. Utah will be substantially bigger than, say, Iowa or Penn State last season, but they'll continue to increase in importance week by week. If he survives this season and next, both he and the program should be OK.
Will it be easy? No.
|1 week 6 days ago||ChicagoB1GRed, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly.||
I think there are a lot of reasonable, respectful fans of many different teams in college football, and I welcome the opportunity to converse with fans of other teams, whether on "their" boards or one of Michigan's boards.
To some degree, I think any loss of decorum is the result of the fact that we're on computers. Fewer people would behave poorly or disrespectfully face to face.
|1 week 6 days ago||I'll respectfully disagree||
First, i think the current use of the word "troll" is specific to a very young audience. I'm 51, and I wouldn't think anything of going to a rival board and posting, "Hey, good game, guys." I've always presented myself with decorum and respect, and it's usually returned in kind, even on boards and blogs for rivals like Ohio State and Notre Dame.
Now, if they're coming over here and starting unnecessary problems, that's an entirely different situation. I've never been one to "talk trash," and it seems pointless to do so, particularly since we're just fans and/or alums, and we're not making blocks and tackles.
Again, just my opinion, for what it's worth.
|2 weeks 12 min ago||NFL.com has some different numbers||
Sorry to be a killjoy; I love Charles as much as anyone here, but nfl.com indicates that he has 57 interceptions and 27 forced fumbles.
Still, assuming he plays at least this season, it would not be out of the question to pass Rod Woodson. If he plays this season and next, and at the same level he's playing now, he'll easily surpass Rod.
Clearly one of the greatest players of all time, in all of football.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Question re: John Harbaugh||
I've heard his name mentioned several times now, but unlike his father and his brother, he has no ties to the university that I'm aware of. Does anyone know if he has any affinity for MIchigan? Would he seriously consider coming here? I've always thought he was the more level-headed brother, and I think he'd make UM tough almost immediately.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||To some degree, yes, Martin was correct.||
Here's the most important point he was correct about: Michigan needs to divorce itself from this ludicrous obsession with hiring a "Michigan Man." Simply put, this nepotistic approach limits the amount of new thought in a footbal program, or in any venture. The people in the progam use the same concepts ad infinitum, but the rest of the world adapts. Eventually, a group that does not adapt is less with stale concepts and complacent personnel. That's what happened with UM.
Frankly, if Art Briles were younger, I'd consider him in a heartbeat. I wouldl have loved to see UM hire Charlie Strong, who seems to embody many of the values that both young blues and old blues hold dear to their hearts. I mentioned Bob Stoops in another thread, but I don't realistically think he would come to A2. Gus Malzahn? Maybe Jon Gruden?
And yet, there is something to be said for an old school approach. Part of me would love to see them approach Bill Parcells. Bill would find a way to be successful, and would figure out how to adapt their S&C program to maximize its talent.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I hope you're right.||
But we haven't beaten OSU in Columbus since 2000. Losing to ND isn't the end of the world -- heck, they opted out of the series, leaving us with a 24-17-1 lead. At this point, Hoke's tenure has reached a crossroads: Improve and salvage some wins and recruits, or maintain the status quo. Frankly, the latter is depressing.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Six bad years? The last time the team was right was 2000.||
Tressel owned us. Sure, there was a B1G title in '04, but it was hollow since we lost to OSU. Serious improvement is necessary.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Despite my bias in favor of UM, Mowins & Joey were awful||
I had the game on, and my wife said, "That woman is terrible." I responded, "She has to keep talking, because Joey Galloway sits there for minutes at a time without saying anything."
And when Galloway did say something, it was frequently anti-UM. And yes, arguing the facemask late hit call was a bit much. I find Spielman to be very fair to UM, pretty much the same for Kirk and Smith. Joey has to go.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Hysterical!||
Elliott Mealer, for the win!
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Agree with Aplatypus. That's the only possible reason.||
Basically, you're keeping guys on their toes all year, and the post-season naming of captains is really just an honor to recognize those guys who were team leaders all year long.
Hopefully, it works.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||The greatest memory in my Michigan fandom.||
I was already 34 by the time that game had rolled around, and I'd pretty much given up ever being able to experience the perfect season/national championship combo (a trifecta if you consider Woodson's Heisman).
My mother-in-law held an annual party on New Year's Day, and she didn't follow football at all, particularly college football. There I was, with a bunch of people, and only my wife could relate to the pins and needles in my stomach. Finally, around 2:30 p.m., I said, "I'm sorry, I have to go home and watch this by myself." Her cousin's husband looked at me and said, "Dude, where ya goin?" I responded as politely as I could that this game, which could mean a national championship, was one I had to watch by myself. It would have been different if I were surrounded by a ton of Michigan fans who knew the team's history, but there's no way that casual football observers could possibly relate.
Initially, when Wazzu took the lead, I thought, "here we go, again." But then Charles picked off that pass in the end zone, and I thought we might have a shot. Then Lloyd let Brian Griese air it out to Tai Streets, not once, but twice. The defense did its usual stellar job, and when Griese connected with Jerame Tuman in tne end zone, it was clear the good guys were in the driver's seat.
Still miffed that the refs didn't call offensive pass interference when the receiver pushed Charles down on that final defensive stand, and it sure looked like he picked off the pass on the play before that, but no matter. That was a once in a lifetime experience. I remember seeing Ian Gold lead the fans in chanting, "It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine."
One mild complaint: My wife and I attended our first home game the next season at the home opener vs. Syracuse, and being the NY/NJ people that we are, we expected to see a ceremony where they raised the national championship banner, possibly with some players from the 1948 national championship team joining the captains from the '97 squad. Why didn't they put up the banner? It's a once-in-a-lifetime experience; it should be commemorated.
Anyway, GO BLUE! and thanks to the OP for putting this topic up there! I've been an avid Michigan fan since 1973, and that 1997 season was the high point.
|5 weeks 12 hours ago||Charcoal gray and burnt orange? Not even school colors.||
|5 weeks 12 hours ago||Black cleats only. Period, amen.||
The blue pants I can deal with. Anything other than black cleats has to go.
Here's the thing: Michigan's basic uniform is the best uniform in all of sports. Why change it?
|6 weeks 3 days ago||In fairness, the teen-agers will wear them, not the fans||
Kids like flash and dash, maybe even more than tradition. The concept of "uniformz" seems like a gimmick, but the players will wear them, so they should like them...at least, to a degree.
I love all the blue, but I'm old school when it comes to the shoes. Basic black, please.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||What did the staff think of Jalen Dalton?||
I was surprised they didn't go after him more. Might not be KLS or Da'Shawn Hand, but he can play, and it never hurts to have a tall guy on the outside. Look what the Giants have done with Jason Pierre-Paul.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Maize shoes? Bring back the black shoes!||
To me, the shoes are far worse than the pants. I don't really mind the blue pants that much, but a Michigan team, a team that blocks, that tackles, that takes care of the ball, should always wear black shoes!
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Maize shoes? UM wore black shoes in 97. Won every game, too.||
What's wrong with the traditional uniform? Nothing. It's literally the best uniform in all of sports. ALL of sports, no exceptions. Why change something that works?
Less marketing, more blocking and tackling.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I have a question||
Will we beat Penn State? I'm interested in uniforms, but I'd also like to see the team win. Just food for thought.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||I agree with everything but center||
If he's healthy, I'd rather see Patrick Kugler play center. Nothing like having a coach's kid making the offensive line calls.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Personally, I'd start Taco over Beyer||
6-6 at defensive end is a weapon, and Taco has Jason Pierre-Paul potential. Beyer's a nice player, and yes, he's a senior, but Taco's potential has a very high ceiling. Honestly, I'd rather see Taco on the weakside, and let him get after the QB with those long arms and legs.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||He grew up one town over from Jabrill||
Jabrill lives in Midland Park, NJ, but he's originally from East Orange, which is right next to Irvington, where Kareem is from.
There's a lot of talent in New Jersey. High school football is taken very seriously there, something that's not common knowledge in the midwest. Getting Kareem would be a nice coup. Not on the level of getting Jabrill, but very nice, nonetheless.
|7 weeks 10 hours ago||He questions that Heisman? I question Schlabach's intelligence||
Woodson was a rare force on defense, offense, and special teams. Whatever the play was, he made it. Period, end of discussion.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||RE: Blue or Big Blue||
Being from NY/NJ, "Big Blue" was always the Giants, and Michigan was simply "Blue." When you've won more games than any major college football team, you don't need to say "big." Your actions on the field speak loudly enough.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||I could be wrong, but I think it was much earlier than the '90s||
I'm 51, and I'd swear I heard Keith Jackson use that phrase in the 1970s. I'm sure people who have virtually every home game on tape could review game films and come up with an answer, but believe me, I've heard that phrase most of my life, and I've been an avid UM fan since the early '70s.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||The positives: You can see the beginnings of that '97 season||
Sure, Lloyd could have managed the clock better, but we should note several points. First, the team went on the road, and "gutted out" a win in a tough spot. That would bode well for them the next season. Next, the defense held a lead. Yes, I know that Rae Carruth could have come down with the ball on that last play, but he didn't, and the defense only gave up 13 points. Not bad.
The '96 team had Jarrett Irons, David Bowens and Chuck Winters, all of whom were gone by '97, yet, the cupboard was anything but bare. By '97, there were plenty of rumblings about the block M standing for mediocrity, but few of us really recognized just how talented and tough that '97 team was, until the season was over, and much of the team's mental toughness can be traced to this '96 game against Colorado.
Just an opinion, i know, but that '96 Colorado game was a sign of things to come.
|8 weeks 9 hours ago||Actually, I don't mind that this series is ending at all.||
Few teams face the relentless pressure of having as many rivals as Michigan does. With ND departing on its own, UM will maintain the series lead while being able to focus on improvement without having to be obsessively concerned about ND. A win-win.
|8 weeks 12 hours ago||Now I know I'm one of the oldest people on this board||
When I saw the headline, I thought, "Someone put a video clip to a Frank Sinatra song?"
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Make it stop!||
I know UM didn't really recruit him, but this is ridiculous. Over the past 10 years, in-state kids have wound up playing for USC, LSU, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Penn State. Just too much.
Brady Hoke, please deliver this year. Please.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Not a UM road game, but Army (West Point) is a great venue||
I don't know if anyone on the board has ever been to a game at Michie Stadium at West Point, but it's well worth the trip. Pick a game in October, when the leaves are turning. The stadium has an upper deck on the west sideline only, so patrons in the upper deck get arguably the best view in the nation (lauded by Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News). The fans are EXTREMELY polite, which is probably because West Point is about service to the country, not about being a football factory. Tickets are inexpesnive, and plentiful, and the atmosphere is enhanced by Cadets skydiving into the stadium with the game ball, a tradition that originated at West Point, which has now become commonplace at many venues.
I know a lot of people will poo-poo the fact that it's not big-time college football, and that it's so close to New York City, but here's the thing. 1. The fact that it's not big-time gives the game a 1950s feel, something the ESPN generation should actually experience. 2. Despite West Point's proximity to NYC, the environment there is remarkably bucolic, and you'd never imagine that a major city was less than 50 miles away.
True, the stadium rarely fills up, but it's a wonderful experience nonetheless.