"Northwestern fans can be both heartened and disheartened by the loss to Minnesota just like how nineteenth-century resurrectionists were heartened when they pried a heart from a freshly-buried corpse and then disheartened it when they sold it to a disreputable anatomist."
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|2 weeks 3 days ago||I would expect maybe 2-3,000 fans from UM.||
Not many. Rutgers fans are OK, but they do seem very enthusiastic about this rivalry. It could be that they smell blood in the water. That's one reason we should support our guys heartily.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Bill Parcells||
He's rested and ready.
|3 weeks 9 min ago||Better idea: Fly the UM flag upside down.||
For centuries, flying your flag upside down has been a signal of distress. Granted, that's not in the stadium, but that would do it.
|3 weeks 3 hours ago||You, sir, should receive knight hood! I'll take Sumlin now!||
While A&M isn't the academic equivalent of UM, I'm very confident that Sumlin would restore us to double digit wins pretty quickly. As you said, he's a Big Ten guy (frankly, we've actually had pretty cordial relations with Purdue; see Griese, Bob). He can recruit both the midwest and Texas. He'll provide stability, yet he'll be open to more modern approaches to offense.
A&M made Bo an offer back in the day. We should, at the very, very least, gauge the man's interest in the UM job. Couldn't hurt.
|3 weeks 3 hours ago||Who needs John Harbaugh? Doesn't have a Super Bowl ring. Wait..||
Yeah, maybe we could use him, after all. Dominant defenses, a balanced offense, solid special teams, good blocking, tackling, and ball security. Maybe some of those things would benefit a team.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Kenn even fared pretty well against Lawrence Taylor.||
That's saying something. Here's a comment by Elliott Harrison on NFL.com last May:
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Fair point, BlueLikeJazz.||
Once they start leaving, that would remove the last obstacle.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||At the very least, it's as bad as 2010.||
On the one hand, I'm worried about losing kids who Hoke brought to A2, but on the other hand, it clearly seems as though this team isn't improving.
Before anyone accuses me of being disloyal, I will always root for Michigan. I am worried about the direction, though. The shame is that our facilities are updated, they've made some inroads into getting some speed players from the south, and they've tried to address some of the areas we've had difficulty with in the past.
At the end of the day, it's not about uniformz, or "Michigan Men" or the various factions that exist among the alums and the fan base, it's about supporting the team and producing a team that wins with integrity and consistency. I think we can all agree on that.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||At this point, every ensuing game is his biggest||
I think there may have been some bigger games in the past three-plus seasons than Utah, but at this point, every game ahead of him is his biggest game at that point. Utah will be substantially bigger than, say, Iowa or Penn State last season, but they'll continue to increase in importance week by week. If he survives this season and next, both he and the program should be OK.
Will it be easy? No.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||ChicagoB1GRed, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly.||
I think there are a lot of reasonable, respectful fans of many different teams in college football, and I welcome the opportunity to converse with fans of other teams, whether on "their" boards or one of Michigan's boards.
To some degree, I think any loss of decorum is the result of the fact that we're on computers. Fewer people would behave poorly or disrespectfully face to face.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I'll respectfully disagree||
First, i think the current use of the word "troll" is specific to a very young audience. I'm 51, and I wouldn't think anything of going to a rival board and posting, "Hey, good game, guys." I've always presented myself with decorum and respect, and it's usually returned in kind, even on boards and blogs for rivals like Ohio State and Notre Dame.
Now, if they're coming over here and starting unnecessary problems, that's an entirely different situation. I've never been one to "talk trash," and it seems pointless to do so, particularly since we're just fans and/or alums, and we're not making blocks and tackles.
Again, just my opinion, for what it's worth.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||NFL.com has some different numbers||
Sorry to be a killjoy; I love Charles as much as anyone here, but nfl.com indicates that he has 57 interceptions and 27 forced fumbles.
Still, assuming he plays at least this season, it would not be out of the question to pass Rod Woodson. If he plays this season and next, and at the same level he's playing now, he'll easily surpass Rod.
Clearly one of the greatest players of all time, in all of football.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||Question re: John Harbaugh||
I've heard his name mentioned several times now, but unlike his father and his brother, he has no ties to the university that I'm aware of. Does anyone know if he has any affinity for MIchigan? Would he seriously consider coming here? I've always thought he was the more level-headed brother, and I think he'd make UM tough almost immediately.
|6 weeks 19 hours ago||To some degree, yes, Martin was correct.||
Here's the most important point he was correct about: Michigan needs to divorce itself from this ludicrous obsession with hiring a "Michigan Man." Simply put, this nepotistic approach limits the amount of new thought in a footbal program, or in any venture. The people in the progam use the same concepts ad infinitum, but the rest of the world adapts. Eventually, a group that does not adapt is less with stale concepts and complacent personnel. That's what happened with UM.
Frankly, if Art Briles were younger, I'd consider him in a heartbeat. I wouldl have loved to see UM hire Charlie Strong, who seems to embody many of the values that both young blues and old blues hold dear to their hearts. I mentioned Bob Stoops in another thread, but I don't realistically think he would come to A2. Gus Malzahn? Maybe Jon Gruden?
And yet, there is something to be said for an old school approach. Part of me would love to see them approach Bill Parcells. Bill would find a way to be successful, and would figure out how to adapt their S&C program to maximize its talent.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I hope you're right.||
But we haven't beaten OSU in Columbus since 2000. Losing to ND isn't the end of the world -- heck, they opted out of the series, leaving us with a 24-17-1 lead. At this point, Hoke's tenure has reached a crossroads: Improve and salvage some wins and recruits, or maintain the status quo. Frankly, the latter is depressing.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Six bad years? The last time the team was right was 2000.||
Tressel owned us. Sure, there was a B1G title in '04, but it was hollow since we lost to OSU. Serious improvement is necessary.
|7 weeks 17 hours ago||Despite my bias in favor of UM, Mowins & Joey were awful||
I had the game on, and my wife said, "That woman is terrible." I responded, "She has to keep talking, because Joey Galloway sits there for minutes at a time without saying anything."
And when Galloway did say something, it was frequently anti-UM. And yes, arguing the facemask late hit call was a bit much. I find Spielman to be very fair to UM, pretty much the same for Kirk and Smith. Joey has to go.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Hysterical!||
Elliott Mealer, for the win!
|8 weeks 3 hours ago||Agree with Aplatypus. That's the only possible reason.||
Basically, you're keeping guys on their toes all year, and the post-season naming of captains is really just an honor to recognize those guys who were team leaders all year long.
Hopefully, it works.
|8 weeks 4 hours ago||The greatest memory in my Michigan fandom.||
I was already 34 by the time that game had rolled around, and I'd pretty much given up ever being able to experience the perfect season/national championship combo (a trifecta if you consider Woodson's Heisman).
My mother-in-law held an annual party on New Year's Day, and she didn't follow football at all, particularly college football. There I was, with a bunch of people, and only my wife could relate to the pins and needles in my stomach. Finally, around 2:30 p.m., I said, "I'm sorry, I have to go home and watch this by myself." Her cousin's husband looked at me and said, "Dude, where ya goin?" I responded as politely as I could that this game, which could mean a national championship, was one I had to watch by myself. It would have been different if I were surrounded by a ton of Michigan fans who knew the team's history, but there's no way that casual football observers could possibly relate.
Initially, when Wazzu took the lead, I thought, "here we go, again." But then Charles picked off that pass in the end zone, and I thought we might have a shot. Then Lloyd let Brian Griese air it out to Tai Streets, not once, but twice. The defense did its usual stellar job, and when Griese connected with Jerame Tuman in tne end zone, it was clear the good guys were in the driver's seat.
Still miffed that the refs didn't call offensive pass interference when the receiver pushed Charles down on that final defensive stand, and it sure looked like he picked off the pass on the play before that, but no matter. That was a once in a lifetime experience. I remember seeing Ian Gold lead the fans in chanting, "It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine."
One mild complaint: My wife and I attended our first home game the next season at the home opener vs. Syracuse, and being the NY/NJ people that we are, we expected to see a ceremony where they raised the national championship banner, possibly with some players from the 1948 national championship team joining the captains from the '97 squad. Why didn't they put up the banner? It's a once-in-a-lifetime experience; it should be commemorated.
Anyway, GO BLUE! and thanks to the OP for putting this topic up there! I've been an avid Michigan fan since 1973, and that 1997 season was the high point.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Charcoal gray and burnt orange? Not even school colors.||
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Black cleats only. Period, amen.||
The blue pants I can deal with. Anything other than black cleats has to go.
Here's the thing: Michigan's basic uniform is the best uniform in all of sports. Why change it?
|10 weeks 1 day ago||In fairness, the teen-agers will wear them, not the fans||
Kids like flash and dash, maybe even more than tradition. The concept of "uniformz" seems like a gimmick, but the players will wear them, so they should like them...at least, to a degree.
I love all the blue, but I'm old school when it comes to the shoes. Basic black, please.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||What did the staff think of Jalen Dalton?||
I was surprised they didn't go after him more. Might not be KLS or Da'Shawn Hand, but he can play, and it never hurts to have a tall guy on the outside. Look what the Giants have done with Jason Pierre-Paul.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Maize shoes? Bring back the black shoes!||
To me, the shoes are far worse than the pants. I don't really mind the blue pants that much, but a Michigan team, a team that blocks, that tackles, that takes care of the ball, should always wear black shoes!
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Maize shoes? UM wore black shoes in 97. Won every game, too.||
What's wrong with the traditional uniform? Nothing. It's literally the best uniform in all of sports. ALL of sports, no exceptions. Why change something that works?
Less marketing, more blocking and tackling.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I have a question||
Will we beat Penn State? I'm interested in uniforms, but I'd also like to see the team win. Just food for thought.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||I agree with everything but center||
If he's healthy, I'd rather see Patrick Kugler play center. Nothing like having a coach's kid making the offensive line calls.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Personally, I'd start Taco over Beyer||
6-6 at defensive end is a weapon, and Taco has Jason Pierre-Paul potential. Beyer's a nice player, and yes, he's a senior, but Taco's potential has a very high ceiling. Honestly, I'd rather see Taco on the weakside, and let him get after the QB with those long arms and legs.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||He grew up one town over from Jabrill||
Jabrill lives in Midland Park, NJ, but he's originally from East Orange, which is right next to Irvington, where Kareem is from.
There's a lot of talent in New Jersey. High school football is taken very seriously there, something that's not common knowledge in the midwest. Getting Kareem would be a nice coup. Not on the level of getting Jabrill, but very nice, nonetheless.