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|1 day 7 hours ago||Any names you want to throw out?||
Just so we can daydream a little? Unfortunately, while the Harbaugh brothers are two of the absolute best coaches in the business and also have ties to the program, I don't see either one coming to Ann Arbor. No up and coming (or established) superstar coach even seems like a possibility at this point.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Where Ball State was before Hoke||
I do not see how this myth continues to live on. Here is Ball State's record the three years prior to Hoke's arrival (under Bill Lynch):
5-6, 5-6, 6-6
Here are Hoke's records at Ball State:
4-8, 2-9, 4-7, 5-7, 7-6, 12-1
Each of Hoke's first four years was worse than each of the three years prior to his arrival. Only in Hoke's fifth year did he improve upon Lynch's record (and only by half a game). He had one outlier year, and used that to propel him into a better job. But his record isn't anything like those of coaches who consistently and significantly improve the results of the teams they take over (e.g., Harbaugh, Meyer, etc.). Heck, Turner Gill had a better track record of improvement in the MAC during the same time period, taking a Buffalo team that had won 1 game (2003), 2 games (2004), and 1 game (2005) under the previous coach, and then leading them to 2 wins in his first year, 5 in his second, and 8 in his third (and beating Hoke's ranked Ball State team for the MAC championship).
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Our offensive line||
Thank goodness we have the OL coach who led Colorado State to seasons of 4-7, 6-6, 4-8, and 3-9 before hooking up with Hoke. I have to imagine that Funk and Tony Gibson share notes.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Normal speed at Ball State||
Ball State under Bill Lynch (last 3 years):
Ball State under Brady Hoke (first 4 years):
In other words, each of Hoke's first four years at Ball State was worse than each of the last three years of his predecessor, Bill Lynch. (Lynch also got a shot at a Big Ten job and has most recently coached DePauw.) This is not a turnaround. I presume the poster meant that not equalling 6-6 or 5-6 for the first four years was not achieving the "normal speed" that Ball State had achieved under Lynch. No one denies that he had one very good year at Ball State (out of six).
While he may love Michigan, be a good uniter of the program (which it needed), etc., some of us are not impressed with what he did at his previous stops.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Still unknown||
As I understand it, this still does not explain why so many people find the show The Big Bang Theory funny. I assume our best minds are still trying to figure that one out.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||One answer||
Okay, figured out that it's on CBSSports.com, not CBSSportsNetwork.com, on the web. Still don't know about the apps, so I'll defer to others on that.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Game available online?||
Sorry for the dumb question, but I've only had to use the Watch ESPN and BigTen2Go apps before. Will the game be viewable using the CBS Sports app? Is there a different way to watch it (CBSSportsNetwork.com)? Neither one seems to be showing the earlier game. (At work for the day.) Thanks for any help.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Even better||
Meyer asking Harbaugh "What's your deal?" after Michigan runs up the score.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Reason for hope||
By year three of his stint at Colorado State, Funk's squad was averaging 2.5 yards per carry (114th out of 119th). In year four, they improved to 3.8 yards per carry (71st out of 120), on their way to a 3-9 record. Improvement, huzzah!
|10 weeks 3 days ago||MAC Coach of the Year||
Well, 2011 MAC Coach of the Year was Ron English. I'm sure Michigan fans (and Hoke himself) would trade any of those coach of the year awards for a conference title.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan State, UCF, and Baylor||
Baylor has 2. More importantly, Baylor has Art Briles.
It will always be true that some teams outperform their recruiting ranks. Others underperform. Given that we were 7-6 this past year, I thought some people have focused on the relative recruiting success of Hoke. I was merely pointing out that at least this year, with respect to recruiting, as judged by Scout.com, our relative recruiting success against our primary rival is...not particularly strong. I'd much rather win in the fall than win in recruiting, but this was a thread about recruiting.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Top 100 recruits||
At least according to these Scout.com ratings, Michigan has 3 commits in the top 100. Ohio State has 10. That is not good.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||Progression/regression||
2008 - 8 games under 300
2009 - 3 games under 300
2010 - 0 games under 300
2011 - 3 games under 300
2012 - 4 games under 300
2013 - 5 games under 300
Obviously, it's not that the total under RR (11) roughly equals the number under Borges (12). The majority under RR came in his first year. Borges' number of games under 300 rose each year. The regression under Borges at Michigan is consistent with the regression that Borges has experienced at other stops.
That said, he seems like a good guy and I wish him well.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Business processes, etc.||
My question regarding this premise is why did Brandon agree to pay Hoke approximately $4M/yr in March 2011? That was not the market price for Hoke. Minnesota had looked at Hoke in November 2010, and then hired Jerry Kill in December 2010 (ultimately at around $1.2M/yr). Given the intense desire on Hoke's part to coach Michigan, and the lack of interest in Hoke from other top programs, his compensation appears significantly inflated.
|15 weeks 11 hours ago||Bob Stitt - HC of small school||
Actually, I think Bob Stitt would take the right OC job. (He first gained some notoriety when Holgorsen credited him after the 2012 Orange Bowl as the inventor of the Fly Sweep, when WVU put up 70 on Clemson.) It would be like a Malzahn hire, when he jumped to the OC ranks of an FBS school. Not saying Michigan will consider it, but some smart program should interview him.
|15 weeks 13 hours ago||Bob Stitt -- Colorado School of Mines||
Bob Stitt -- Colorado School of Mines.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan's schedule||
Given that Auburn this year played at LSU and at Texas A&M, and also played Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Missouri, is Michigan's schedule next year really a murderer's row? I would say no. (It will of course be harder than this year's schedule.)
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Yards per carry||
Cal. under Borges:
’01 5.7 (pre-Borges)
Auburn under Borges:
’10 5.6 (pre-Borges)
’12 4.1 (Loeffler )
’13 6.3 (Malzahn)
’11 3.4 (pre-RR)
Count me as someone who does not believe that all OCs, all schemes, and all S&C programs are relatively equal on the FBS stage. (If that were truly the case, we should simply hire the staff willing to work for the lowest amount. Our spending suggests that we do not subscribe to this theory.)
|15 weeks 5 days ago||E.g., LSU||
LSU started a true freshman at center this year that Hoke turned away (because he had filled up the class at that point on OL) -- Ethan Pocic. And this was despite the fact that Pocic had not even played any center in high school. Stop blaming the former regime. It's year four for Hoke, Funk, and Al.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Congrats to Jerry Montgomery||
Oklahoma D line coached by our former D line coach Jerry Montgomery, who was poached at the end of last season.
|16 weeks 51 min ago||Freshman offensive linemen||
I believe Ethan Pocic, whose offer Hoke pulled when we filled up and who was high on Michigan, started some games this year at center for LSU as a true freshman. I also believe he had never played the center spot before reporting to LSU.
|16 weeks 13 hours ago||247Sports article (free) - Peppers||
The author of the article has responded in the comments, and notes that while Speight has "better tools, but sometimes the ball does not come out right," and Peavy has been the most consistently accurate, the best QB he has seen on Team Nitro has been...Jabrill Peppers.
|16 weeks 17 hours ago||Return to traditional Michigan run game||
2010: 5.58 yards/attempt
2011: 5.15 yards/attempt
2012: 4.76 yards/attempt
2013: 3.28 yards/attempt
|16 weeks 1 day ago||This narrative||
This narrative is not only tired, but just not accurate. The Arizona QB literally had no offers coming out of high school. He enrolled in Arizona last year out of junior college. It appears he had no other offers coming out of junior college, unlike, for example, Bo Wallace or even Nick Montana. With this zero star recruit, RR leads them to an 8-5 record and a beatdown of Oregon and BC in their bowl game. And you attribute this to a plethora of talent left by Stoops? If this were Michigan and Hoke, many would be saying that he needs a four/five star QB with four years under genius Al to learn to properly "execute" his perfect West Coast Offense, of which Al would not change a thing, no matter what happens in any game.
The true freshman leading receiver for Arizona is also a three-star recruit. How can it be that a true freshman is productive? Is this person attiributable to the cupboard Stoops left as well?
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Money for John Harbaugh||
To be fair, though, somehow we decided to pay $4 million for a coach that has never won a conference title, and is barely .500 lifetime (even coaching in the MAC and MWC). (The fact that Brandon hired Hoke and Borges doesn't surprise me; the fact that he is wildly overpaying them is somewhat troubling.) If John Harbaugh -- a Super Bowl winning coach who has won 2/3 of his games in the NFL, is in his prime, has a great coaching tree (e.g., Chuck Pagano coached under him), has Michigan ties, and is not a diffiicult personality (like his brother) -- were really an an option at $7 million a year, Michigan would be foolish not to pay it.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Difficulty of West Coast Offense||
The problem with trying to implement a difficult offense that takes 3 years to really learn at Michigan is that colleges have constant turnover. This is not the 49ers, which might have the same QB and receivers for the better part of a decade.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Hoke's aspirations||
Yes, Hoke:UM::Bill Stewart:WVU.
(Except Bill Stewart had a better 3 year post-RR win-loss record at WVU than Hoke has had at UM.)
|16 weeks 4 days ago||12th game under 300 yards?||
Isn't this the 12th game under 300 yards for Borges?
2011: WMU, Mich. St., Va. Tech
2012: Ala., ND, Neb., OSU
2013: UConn, Mich. St., Neb., Iowa, K. St.
Note that in true Borges regression fashion, he has had more each year.
In 2010, our worst offensive output was 342 yards against 15th ranked Miss. State.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||Injury||
Any news about an injury that Borges may have suffered around 2001?
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Top 10 recruiting classes||
Our recruiting classes were ranked as following according to 247Sports the three years prior to Hoke's arrival:
Yes, the 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes were good, and better than the 2008-10 period, but it is not as if we went from the 40s to the top ten. Recruiting is not a panacea that cures poor coaching.
There is a reason why Auburn under Loeffler last year did not win a single SEC game, and is in the championship game this year under a new staff. At some point, the finger-pointing at the RR era will not simply be overplayed, but will not hold any water at all. (To look at it another way, has the cupboard been bare at every place Borges has coached? Why has he not lasted at any major job in the past 15 years? In what program that he coached has the offense gotten better over time?)
*Edit: One last note. Oregon over this period (2008-present) has never had a top 10 recruiting class. Stanford had one (2012, which preceded a 51st ranking for a small class in 2013). Other than 2011 (the "Process" year with Dave Brandon), Michigan has consistently had more highly ranked recruiting classes than Oregon or Stanford. A team does not need multiple top 10 recruiting classes to field a competent offense.