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|5 days 12 hours ago||Yes. I think we've forgotten||
Yes. I think we've forgotten what dominating tall, fast receivers look like as fans because we haven't had them since 2007.
Darboh and Chesson came along nicely after not much early in their careers. They are pro prospects. But they aren't going to wow anybody even at this level. Same with our running backs.
We lacked guys who outclassed the top linebackers and defensive backs.
Money guys in the big moments in the fourth quarter.
|6 days 6 min ago||I think it's pretty obvious||
I think it's pretty obvious how they are looking at things. A two loss Washington is way different than a one loss Washington. If Washington had two losses going in to last night, doubt they would have been ahead of Michigan nor been able to leapfrog Michigan by winning.
They are Michigan State from last year. Being from a power conference, winning it, and only having the one loss is almost always a ticket puncher provided there aren't a bunch of awesome teams out there with the same amount of losses.
Metrics be damned.
Dominance, a tough schedule, metrics, but no league title keeps you in the game provided there aren't four other power conference champions/teams with fewer losses.
See USC and see Michigan. Both are probably top five teams easily right now. But they won't be allowed to leapfrog P5 conference champions with fewer losses.
I think you can count on that being set in stone.
Same losses, yes MIchigan could get in. But not more losses.
Those are fair precedents if that's the case.
|6 days 4 hours ago||Agreed to a point. The big||
Agreed to a point. The big difference is this offensive line can't lean on quality defenses in obvious running situations and actually grab yards.
Teams play us and know this. They can actually gain an advantage in pass defense as a result. PInch the li
Harbaugh's playcalling is strangled by the reality of this offensive line. A lot of the success the quarterback has had against good defenses is due to his improvisational skills buying time. The line just isn't a big time outfit currently.
|6 days 8 hours ago||The only way either Big Ten||
The only way either Big Ten team playing tonight jumps Michigan, is if Clemson wins. That way the people behind the whole system can save some face for the conference championship thing without costing Michigan.
Michigan is in if VT wins tonight.
Can't believe so many people doubt that after this week's rankings.
Can't believe there is any doubt that's how it should be after Michigan State slipped and slided their way through the conference and title game last year, when the metrics and eye test were screaming they were barely top 10.
|6 days 10 hours ago||We did as well as can be expected||
People make a big mistake expecting results right away like OSU keeps delivering. Have to remember they went from Hall of Fame level coach basically right to Hall of Fame level coach. They lucked out mightily on Meyer being available at that point. Easily could have been searching around hoping to land the right guy. And if they were wrong, spending years digging out.
That's the life Michigan's program has been leading. Twice in a decade.
Think back: Through the Tressel-Fickell-Meyer transition there were no down periods to actually recover from as far as talent. They saw one season of minor defections of veterans who were all but out the door anyway. All the issues went down after that last Tressel class was signed and delivered. Tressel had been recruiting awesome for over a decade. So no drop-off there.
Meyer was announced like November/December that fall. He didn't coach but immediately started recruiting.
It's not reasonable to expect OSU results yearly right now at Michigan. You need horses. So when you go to Iowa or wherever and 20 year old kids have a inevitable teenager night, you still win by a couple scores. We don't have that skill level on offense yet. Not even close.
|6 days 11 hours ago||Outside of Butt and arguably||
Outside of Butt and arguably Mason Cole, Harbaugh inherited basically nothing on offense. Darboh and Chesson were nobodies until they started getting coached. The OL was overrated by star gazing. No quarterback. Deveon Smith, tough guy, great blocker, not a feature back.
Inherited definite talent on defense in Peppers, Lewis, Charlton, Wormley. Those interior guys hadn't done anything though. Safeties neither. Linebackers were poor.
Five losses in two years, three of them at the gun, is amazing.
These two years have been Jim Harbaugh and his people coaching up average to good overall talent. It's not really even a Jim Harbaugh program yet.
Patience is an ugly word, but that's the deal.
Expecting to go undefeated based on having veterans alone is pie in the sky. You need quality veterans.
|1 week 2 days ago||Worrying about who wins the||
Worrying about who wins the Big Ten Championship is a waste of time in all this.
Either head to head and overall resume matter, or tripped up tie breakers/conference scheduling anomalies matter. If Washington or Clemson lose we'll have our answer to that question going forward.
The committee may make the statement that MIchigan clearly proved it was the better team and put Michigan in over either of the Big Ten title teams. I think that's very reasonable.
Too early in the evolution of the playoff to tell what they'll do.
Personally I don't get why so many people on here think it's unreasonable to put Michigan in over Wisconsin and Penn State.
If it were the college football playoff's job to protect the meaning of the championship games, what would they do if Notre Dame was worthy like in 2012? For that matter what are they already likely to do for Ohio State? A team a good chunk of the country thinks is worse then us.
Washington loss. Michigan 4 v. Bama 1, Ohio State 3 v. Clemson 2.
4 best teams.
|1 week 3 days ago||I keep waiting for someone to||
I keep waiting for someone to point to something objective in the committee's criteria or past statements where a team who wins the conference championship game should be given preference over a better team with the exact same record.
Let's face it: This is all very new and were all guessing.
Some of us overvalue division championships and will choose to disparage a great team because tie breakers didn't deliver a division championship. Some of us overvalue head to head and actually being the better team.
I don't think it's a matter of right or wrong.
I am fine with the committee setting a clear precedent either way on the matter. But I figure they'll love the future flexibility selecting Michigan would give them.
And I think it would be a GREAT precedent. Being better is more important than pulling through based on tie breakers and scheduling quirks.
|1 week 3 days ago||Yeah and really here the||
Yeah and really here the excluding would be in the name of protecting wanky conference tie breaker systems and those teams who get to load up wins in clearly weaker divisions. Nothing good worth protecting.
There is a big part of me, as a fan who demands excellence of Michigan, who believes in Brian's position. The old "hey if you're that good all you had to do is....." argument.
But Michigan's excellence here is clear. We didn't last second drop by their punter and monsoon defense our way to 3 top ten wins.
Our defense proved itself to be a level of shutdown rarely seen in the sport on Saturday.
|1 week 4 days ago||Brian is one of the greatest||
Brian is one of the greatest writers and thinkers in internet sports coverage. I think this is the greatest fan resource I've ever seen for any sport.
And I have never disagreed with him more than on his take that Michigan shouldn't be in the playoff.
The idea that conference champions should dictate who gets in creates a way scarier future scenario for the sport than the thoughtful dissection of apples to apples resume accomplisments.
If MSU last year proved anything it's this: teams who win in dubious fashion, underperform in the metrics, get a softer league variance schedule, but string together a series of nailbiter wins for a conference championship should be looked at with greater scrutiny.
Not rubber stamped by virtue of winning the conference title.
The committee taking Michigan here would enhance the value of the regular season by weighing their quality wins, head to head, and overall schedule difficulty versus teams with the same record.
That's EXACTLY the right direction for the sport. Too long college foootball rankings and playoffs have coddled teams who have played weak schedules but laid claim to a conference title.
|1 week 4 days ago||Try 6 with top 2 teams||
Try 6 with top 2 teams getting a bye and the other 4 playing a first round game on campus.
Putting all but the final at these bowls sites is silly in the first place.
|1 week 6 days ago||He might be Hoke. Or he might||
He might be Hoke. Or he might be a guy with extensive experience coaching as a head guy and as an assistant at three mega programs.
And he's just way smarter than he was and will get the assistants he needs with a huge budget at his disposal.
Might be seeing it working at USC right now. And Helton had way less head coaching experience.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Totally different USC team||
Totally different USC team now. They wouldn't beat Bama. But they'd push Bama hard now. Nobody is playing better nationally.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I wouldn't want any other||
I wouldn't want any other coach in charge right now.
They are going to Columbus in two weeks with everything on the line and they are going to pull through that day.
The people trashing Harbaugh or turning on certain players over one hard fought loss by a measly point, are pathetic excuses for fans.
They'll be the first ones pounding their chests exhalting the greatness of the team after the next big win. It's like they never watched or played sports in their lives.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||If I could upvote you ten||
If I could upvote you ten times I would.
Every game is different. The match-ups are different. These aren't machines. They are 20 year olds playing on the road at night against a program where the coach has built a consistent winner over nearly fifteen years.
Every team has a down game or two in a college football season. I will buy the argument that the overall talent isn't dominant enough yet to overcome bad games like last night.
But there is enough here to beat OSU this season. No question.
We know this because we saw Michigan dominate basically every game this season and an inferior Penn State beat that OSU team.
The notion we can't win down there strikes me as fans overreacting and behaving as crybabies over a one point loss.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Maybe. Maybe not. Let's see||
Maybe. Maybe not.
Let's see how the matchups play out.
A lot of what were dealing with today is fans overemphasizing the negatives after a loss. Overreaction Sunday. Never been a lost game in the history of sports where there weren't issues come up for the losing team.
Point is, we have the players to very well down there against their offense and we have the right coach scheme wise.
See how it plays out.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Well if you read my post, it||
Well if you read my post, it says "capable of doing". I am sure two very productive run offenses in Wisconsin and Penn State would agree we're capable. There are elements that need cleaning up. But there are probably 4 current NFL draftable players on that Dline. Given that and the history of dominating against quality teams, they are capable.
I've seen enough to say they can, even against a great rushing team.
You've seen enough to ignore the evidence in the good performances and focus on the lackluster ones.
If we knew they could do it every time, we could simply not bother playing the games and let a computer model decide it all.
No fun there.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||The thing is, this defense is||
The thing is, this defense is very capable of shutting down anyone, anywhere. That's the first element of winning at Ohio State that most teams don't have.
People climbing the walls last night about a supposed blowout against Michigan down there need to chill.
I wasn't surprised Iowa ran the ball well last night. A. At home. B. It's what that program has always done well. C. It's the only play they had was to keep running. The passing game was hopeless.
It shouldn't have mattered. 200 yards total with a couple turnovers and safety is Brady Hoke team level offense. You will not win many road games doing that.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||A couple MSU fans have told||
A couple MSU fans have told me "I was happy with the final score".
Getting close with a couple throwaway scores burning clock with running plays meant A LOT to them.
Tells you all you need to know. One program relentlessly pursues and demands excellence with no excuses for less.
One is on it's heels looking for positives.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||We looked fine and finished||
We looked fine and finished the game fine. State was stuck in the mud for almost three whole quarters. We had a couple missed tackles and the QB made a nice throw on the run for a big gainer in the 4th.
And it didn't matter. They pushed some yards on the ground and in the process drained the clock for us. Exactly what you want. What you don't want is a couple huge bombs for touchdowns with half a quarter or more to play.
It's great to have high expectations. It's also great to have perspective gained by paying attention to the football games many of us here have purported to watch the last ten to twenty years.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Which second half did you||
Which second half did you watch?
You are taking the two throwaway touchdowns where a desperate and higly motivated opponent made a couple plays trying to save some face, and calling that being outplayed?
Michigan won every key play for over two quarters, and ran out on a 30-3 run on the opponent's home field.
If you watched that game start to finish and felt any anxiety past the point of Michigan's quick answer to MSU's impressive first drive, there is nothing anyone can say to calm you down.
When Michigan knew it had to answer it did. When it knew it needed a stop it got one. Those moments are part and parcel of any great team's season. 60 minutes of dominance is an ideal, not a common reality. It happens against Rutgers level opponents and teams that have totally quit. And nowhere else.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Get real||
Michigan dominated that game. I watched it twice.
If you thought MSU wasn't going to play a great game with max intensity all 4 quarters, you're insane.
The outcome was never in doubt and whenever Michigan needed to turn on the jets, it did. Michigan State got lucky at times last year, but it is a playoff program with a ten year coach at the helm.
They still have very good players. They were at home.
Don't kid yourself or fall in love with their fans' excuse list.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||8-0. Next. Everyone try to||
Everyone try to get a grip.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||How he wrote his columns was||
How he wrote his columns was a gimmick he concocted to carve out a niche. If you read the glowing eulogies of the other Detroit writers today, they all point out the overly negative approach to incite the fans was his way of doing things. They dressed it up like he was providing some public service to fans who were too forgiving of mediocrity.
But let's be real. It was an ecomic ploy. Like the more skilled hockey player who also fights good selling out fully to be the team goon.
He might have been a great fighter, but I don't think it's out of place for people to point out all aspects of how a guy went about his business when he was alive.
|7 weeks 9 hours ago||Always think of him as the||
Always think of him as the beat writer for the Pistons in the Bad Boy glory days. He did a great job covering that team. Back when print was one of your main conduits to information depth and behind the scenes stuff. There weren't hour long pre games on TV or any of that.
He was not a talented or intellectually honest columnist. But he was provocative.
He was a talented beat writer who used to work extremely hard covering the Pistons and an important part of the media scene for sports fans in Michigan.
Feel bad for his family and friends.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||"Any Given Sunday" deserves||
"Any Given Sunday" deserves mention for the Pacino pre-game speech alone.
"Hoosiers" is a beautiful movie. Shot on location throughout Indiana using locals for bit parts and as extras. Multiple great locker room speeches by Hackman in that one.
When the star player announces he's coming back to play than throws the stipulation in that the Coach also has to be retained-- great moment.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||I was impressed with Colorado||
I was impressed with Colorado and with the way Michigan adjusted after a very rocky first 15 or so minutes to outscore them by 30 points the rest of the way.
The road games starting late next month will decide the season. Just stay healthy through October. After that, I like those matchups until OSU.
That one Michigan will need to play at the highest level possible in all phases.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||The criticism on here ran deep and was also about ability.||
It went beyond just the academic comments on this very Blog.
There was a small minority of the total users who thought he was a good choice as far as ability as a football coach back in 2010. Talking late 2010 when it was apparent Rodriguez wasn't coming back.
I figured the motivation was the lingering resentment over the academic comments.
The percentage of people posting who questioned his ability as a football coach was surprisingly high. A lot of nit picking about his overall record at Stanford.
|32 weeks 6 days ago||Spring Game Grin. When I saw||
Spring Game Grin. When I saw it, I had no doubt this guy was taking the program to the moon. Everything else that happened after was incidental.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Advantages to small programs when these camps happen||
The camps help the smaller programs just as much if not more. LImiting the camps, limits their cash-strapped football departments from being exposed to more players.
The smaller programs essentially ride the financial coattails of the larger more flush big programs who act as sponsors.
Limiting the camps is just another way of trying to slow down Harbaugh who has a non-stop work ethic. While hurting smaller programs who derive great benefit from Harbaugh's work.