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|2 hours 58 min ago||MSU went 7-1 to tie for the B1G title in 1978 w/ Mich||
but was on probation, so it couldn't go to the Rose Bowl (or any for that matter).
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|5 hours 52 min ago||We're in the Rutgers/Penn St neighborhood||
Teams in the neighborhood of Nebraska (Utah/Minny) have beaten us soundly.
|5 hours 55 min ago||Michigan was on a roll by the time of the 69 OSU game|
|6 hours 14 min ago||That's disingenous||
In 1990, the B1G title was shared by 6-2 Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, and Illinois. Iowa went to the Rose Bowl because it swept MSU 12-7, Michigan 24-23, and Illinois 54-28 but lost to 5-2-1 Ohio State 28-27 and to 5-3 Minnesota 31-24.
MSU started the year by tying end-of-season 7-4-2 Syracuse 23-23, losing to end-of-season 9-3 Notre Dame 20-19, Iowa 12-7, and Illinois 15-13 along with their wins agains Rutgers 34-10 and Michigan 28-27. MSU won out from there including a 17-16 win over USC in the Sun Bowl.
I don't see any comparison between a co-B1G champ that lost a few dogfights against top teams to this year's Michigan team.
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|9 hours 32 min ago||I predicted an 80% chance of a Hoke return if Gardner was the QB||
(50% if it was Morris).
Holy hell, these depths were unfathomable. My non-Apocalypse worst case was a return to last year's approximate level, losing to ND/MSU/OSU and maybe dropping one or two frustrating heartbreakers against middle-of-the-pack teams.
But getting smoked by Minny at home? ESPN has us ranked as the 11th of 14 in ESPN's B1G teams.
I did not see this coming.
|10 hours 49 min ago||Dave,||
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|14 hours 59 min ago||You might call that 'Sour "Grapes" '||
|16 hours 13 min ago||Agreed. The B1G champ gets in only if||
it has one loss and there is no one loss team among ND, the PAC-12, and the Big 12.
However, I think there's a pretty good chance that ND and all PAC 12 & Big 12 teams will have 2 (or more) losses come selection time.
|1 day 5 hours ago||I thought all pre-teens loved the Gong Show back then :)||
Oh, and remember how the audience would mimic Chuck Barris by clapping when Chuck clapped? Maybe we should do that w/ Hoke.
The audience misses the first clap at 0:04, but nails the claps at 0:07 and 0:10, and is just a little late on the sneaky clap at 0:16.
|1 day 6 hours ago||"Then the better Pac-12 and Big12"...||
which makes it all the more likely that the Pac 12 & Big 12 champion will have two losses.
PAC 12 Cannibalization
Oregon 6-1, #9 Sagarin
Utah 5-1, #22 Sagarin
Arizona State 5-1, #23 Sagarin
Arizona 5-1, #28 Sagarin
Big 12 Cannibalization
TCU 6-1, #7 Sagarin
Kansas State 5-1, #14 Sagarin
Baylor 5-1, #8 Sagarin
Notre Dame's Path
Notre Dame 6-1, #15 Sagarin
Of those, I think TCU is most likely to make it through w/ one loss.
|1 day 7 hours ago||My friends and I used to drive our moms crazy||
by doing that dance when Gene-Gene The Dancing Machine came on.
The Gong Show was universally hated by all of the moms...which only made it all the more appealing.
|1 day 8 hours ago||ND & Oregon are by no means in the clubhouse w/ 1 loss yet||
Nor is the MSU/OSU winner
ND still has @ASU, Louisville, and @USC
Oregon still has Stanford, @Utah, and a likely PAC12 Champ game to remain a 1 loss team.
|1 day 8 hours ago||I don't know how you call that "great"||
unless "great" is used in a manner of "beautiful, just fucking beautiful".
ESPN has Michigan ranked as 11 of 14 in its B1G Power Rankings behind #10 Purdue. Purdue!!!
At the beginning of the season, anywhere in that ballpark would have just been unfathomable.
|1 day 8 hours ago||I think any end-of-year one-loss Power 5 team||
has a pretty good shot at making the Playoffs.
Presently, there are 14 one-loss Power 5 teams w/ a whole lot of cannabalizing to go.
Watch as the one-loss-or-better Power 5 club shrinks rapidly from 17 over the next few weeks.
I think Nebraska has a better chance of making the Playoffs if it were to run the table than it does at running the table.
|1 day 9 hours ago||You've got it backwards||
Costs have nothing to do with football ticket prices. Football season ticket holders will be charged what they are willing to pay to see Michigan Football.
The article below was written based on 2012-2013 information. The football program cost $23 million to run but brought in $82 million in revenues.
Because it could.
Most of us thought football was on the upswing in 2012. An 11-2 2011, followed by a 2012 in which we lost to Top 10 ND, OSU, and S Carolina by 7, 5, and 5 points, lost to Nebraska with Bellomy playing QB, and like just about everyone didn't belong on the field w/ 'Bama.
But here we find ourselves in 2014 w/ that $58mm/yr surplus being spent on non-football, and --Ruh Roh--the football team sucks.
If the football program is not soon corrected in a believable way, that $58mm/yr surplus is going to shrink rapidly. And then what happens?
|1 day 9 hours ago||Denard was the leading rush of all the early games||
|1 day 10 hours ago||Jeez, I would hope not||
The SEC's best OOC wins are
• Alabama 33-23 over West Virginia (neutral field)
Enough IME to justify taking 2/4 spots. In no way is that enough to justify shutting out three leagues & ND.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Season ticket holders that spent ~$250 on the IU & MD games||
aren't going to boycott.
The message for next year is sent clearly through the StubHub prices of $59.99 for IU in Section 3 (~20 yd line) and $43.60 for MD in Section 43 (~20 yr line).
That's an obvious signal of demand for tickets under Hoke. If Hoke stays, the MSU & OSU games next year might be filled with as many of the opposition fans as Michigan fans.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Well said||
As Warren Buffett likes to say "You find out who's swimming naked only when the tide goes out".
When money gets tight, people will fight over it.
Oh, and as to $8mm/yr for Harbaugh (or even $10mm/yr), the direct revenue stream from football is $82 million/yr (in 2012-13, I believe) and the cost of running the football program is $23mm, leaving a ~$58mm/yr surplus.
It would be crazy to take that $82mm/yr stream for granted. Perhaps in 2006, we could take for granted that Michigan would be at least close to a perennial Top Ten team. Perhaps in 2011, we could take for granted that "This is Michigan", we'll be back to being a perennial Top Ten team soon.
But 2014 brings new territory. We suck. And there's no expectation that "This is Mighigan!" will bring the program back by itself. IME, if the football program remains mired in this condition, that $82mm/yr cash cow is going to shrink significantly.
Forturnately, the University has the resources to invest to protect that $82mm/yr revenue stream. Yes, it has come to that. Increasing the football budget from its present $23 mm/yr to say, $30 mm/yr to snag Jim Harbaugh to protect that $82 mm/yr revenue stream seems rather fiscally prudent, if you ask me.
|1 day 13 hours ago||Agreed, being a good project manager for spending the $58 mil||
surplus is not the only role of an AD.
|1 day 13 hours ago||Like tuition, football ticket prices no longer have||
anything to do with costs. Costs may follow the increases, but are not a long-term determinant. And as we see with the administrative bloat, costs aren't even carefully managed.
Football season ticket holders will be charged what they are willing to pay. The only way ticket prices will come down is if a sufficient number of season ticket holders decide not to renew. And that could happen. In the. say, 1990s, a season ticket holder would worry about giving up 20 years of seniority and gradually improving his or her seat. Once empty seats start appearing in tiered pricing, a season ticket holder can save this year's check and just buy back a reasonable replacement when the team regains its prowess.
Loyalty works both ways.
|1 day 13 hours ago||If softball fans were treated like football fans||
skyrocketing ticket prices would follow. Along with $5 water.
|1 day 14 hours ago||According to Dave Brandon||
"All of the facilities and coaches and the infrastructure required to have 31 teams fundamentally all gets paid for by two programs: basketball and football," he continued. "Those revenues are the reason why we can have so many teams competing in so many activities and have a really broad-based program."
According to the article, football brings in $82 million in revenue but "cost about $23 million to operate in 2012-13, meaning it fed more than $58 million into Michigan's other 30 varsity teams."
Meaning that of a season ticket holder's $1,000+, about $700 is going to support non-revenue sports. Now when the football product is nowhere near worth $1,000 per year, it should be of no surprise that ticket holders would like some of that money back. "Too bad, we spent it on rowing" isn't going to calm pissed off ticket holders down.
The ONLY solution is to get the football program back to a state where ticket holders merely grumble but not scream about the $1,000 season tickets because they willingly make the trade of $1,000 per year to see a good football product. Going into this year, I'm guessing just about everyone's worst case scenario was lose the 3 to ND, MSU, & OSU and drop a couple of close ones to middle-of-the-pack teams for a ~7-5ish disappointing season. Who here saw us getting pasted by a middling Minnesota team?
If the football program stays in its current shape, the non-revenue sports are going to be forced to make cuts because that $58 million football profit will surely shrink.
|3 days 7 hours ago||It would be crazy to practice at midnight||
on a belly full of subs.
|3 days 13 hours ago||Michigan Football Fans everywhere let out a collective|