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Michigan's offense is not at all based on a player creating his own shot.  Burke could do it when the team needed it, but it was usually with the shot clock winding down.  THJ certainly didn't get to the hole based on his own moves dribbling the ball.  He would get to the hoop on occassion after the ball moved around within the offense or off of a set pick or screen.

Beilein tweeks the offense each season to his personnel.  Before Burke, the offense was based on the skills of Morris (a completely different PG than Burke).  The last year and half, Beilein adjusted it to Burke's strength.  I think you're kidding yourself if you think Beilein can't adjust the offense to all the different talent he will have next season.

Also, getting into the lane is not the same as "creating your own shot."  Once a pick or screen is set, it's up to the player to read the defense and take what the defense gives him.  You seem to be suggesting that Spike and Walton won't be able to get into the lane and draw the defense. If your fellow fans think this, you will be disappointed.

He is an above-average, PG.  He is a very good guard.  There's nothing terrible about his game.

on a good day could draw double teams.  Problem for MSU was his good days were usually only against Michigan.

Next year will be interesting.  MSU will be great on D again, but its offensive style of play has never impressed me.  I expect the same next year.

You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that? On a weekday?

Answer: Brian's title

That lineup could definitely get stops.  Word is that Irvin plays good defense.

Stauskas has good ball handling and if he takes that up a notch, I could see him playing the point if Walton is not ready to run things.  Before Burke decided last year to stay, Stauskas was prepping himself for PG with ball handling drills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_keYLb0WhU )

Stauskas

Irvin

GRIII

Mitch

Horford or Morgan

BENCH: Horford or Morgan, Beifeldt, Levert, Spike, Walton, Donnal

Maybe Donnal or Walton redshirt?

THJ's decision will make me happy.

Before he came to Michigan, Beilein had only taken the program to the NCAA tournament once in 2009.  THJ as a freshman was a pleasant surprise and propelled us to an 8 seed.  I would love to see him be the first senior to have serious playing time under Beilein.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq-cegxBEpM

@1:08

Bill Pullman, acting as the US president, says " . . . for it is the day when the world declared in one voice: 'We will not go quietly into the night, we will not vanish without a fight.  We're going to live on; we're going to survive. Today, we celebrate our . . . ."

Craft is equal to or better than THJ.

Harris is not yet at their level.

Udoh.

Both teams are nearly equal (IU being better), but our best players literally had free opportunities at home to be the equal of IU.  Michigan had its opportunity and didn't take it.  IU doesn't get blown out all that often.  Last year, yes; this year, not so much.

Hopefully Michigan learns from that loss and continues getting better.

young legs; young minds.  Yes, I agree we have now have athletes.  But our young bigs (McGary, GRIII, Beifeldt and Horford) that play have such little experience that mental lapses result.

At this level, to win, you have to be solid at everything--at a high speed.  These guys don't have enough experience to be solid at everything every night on instinct.  It's like taking an exam.  You study all the material and may know it, but if you can't recall the information out on reflex, you probably don't know it well enough to get the right answers in the allotted time.  You might still pass, but you're not necessarily going to get an A grade.

 If our young bigs have a great night rebounding, they still might miss a defensive rotations or miss making the right pass or fail to make the right read etc.  When they do well in any of these other things, they might forget to find the right man to box out.

Just give the program time to keep growing.  We should be patient.

We all want excellence now, but each team (except the disappointment of year 3) of Beilein's tenure has been getting better than the previous one.  It's doing this despite our top shelf talent not sticking around to be upperclassmen. 

all things being equal.

I just disagree that THJ as a junior is equal to Harris as a freshman. THJ is much better.
I do think Harris as a freshman is better than THJ as a freshman (as a sophomore too maybe) though.

Yeah--he has similar numbers as Gary Harris, but THJ has to guard the best option in the backcourt of the opposing team or guard the best 1-2 options overall on the opposing team.

He also has to bring it consistently, because his teammates that are freshmen often play like that, like freshmen.

He has to bring rebounding too, because if not, Michigan weakness at rebounding becomes glaring.  With 5 freshmen in the main rotation, THJ has to go get that ball over the bigs on MSU, IU, OSU, MN, etc.  This is moreso during the injury of Morgan.  Basically, THJ has to lead Michigan along with Burke.

Harris did not have the obligation to lead this season, b/c MSU has experience.  The experienced bigs on MSU can also block out the opposing bigs more effectively than Michigan's bigs, so Harris doesn't have the same onus on him as THJ to rebound or defend.  Harris plays with the following rotation of upperclassmen: Appling, Payne, Nix. 

So the numbers may be similar, but THJ has to play better for Michigan to have a similar record as MSU. 

That's how I see the comparison, fwiw.   

**intellect

@16:13, Michigan is down by 2 pts. and rebounds a missed jumpshot by Wisconsin.  THJ has the ball in transition with Stauskas arriving at the bottom corner spotting up for a 3 ball.  THJ makes the pass and Stauskas shoots the ball with a defender flying past him.  Stauskas shoots it short, but follows his shot (note: good fundamentals on the play) for the rebound.  Stauskas get the rebound and takes a dribble to go strong to the hoop.  As he dribbles, Wisconsin's guard (jersey # 1) falls to the ground in front of Stauskas, not only tripping Stauskas but hitting the ball as it is near the ground on Stauskas's dribble.  The ball's natural momentum is completely altered by the Wisconsin body and makes a direct line out of bounds.  What is so insanely frustrating is the position of the referee.

He's on the baseline looking at the play the whole time.  He doesn't call the foul against Wisky for tripping (from not boxing Stauskas out).  Not only that, but he calls it out of bounds on Stauskas!!!!

It makes absolutely no sense.  What was the ref seeing?!?  How can I not assume incompetence or blatant bias on the ref (rhetorical question)?  

"Bottom line: Michigan deserves to be praised for performing like a Top 10 team this year. But the Wolverines have exceeded expectations to accomplish that. The freshmen have performed above and beyond all expectations. And Trey Burke has improved tremendously from last season. Michigan’s defense still isn’t quite Top 10 caliber. But for a group this young to have the #1 offense in the nation is truly an accomplishment."

would probably also bite on trying to get unnecessary blocks, With Webber in the air, Burke would dish it off to a big man, a cutting GRIII or THJ, or a poised Stauskas on the perimeter. The ball moves around much better with the current team.

Also, discipline was a weakness of the Fab Five.  Discipline is a strength of the current team.  Mental toughness is a strength of the '12-'13 team according to Jimmy King quoted in the freep today.

is Brian's opinion today titled "Whiplash."

"On January 27th of 2012, Michigan was 6-2 in the Big Ten, albeit barely. Their last three conference wins had come by a total of five points, and they'd just dropped a game to SEC mediocrity Arkansas. At 16-5 it was clear they were destined for the tourney, but no one expected to storm through upcoming away games at Ohio State and Michigan State. Michigan didn't, but then again it was their best season since… well, that's complicated." (emphasis of mine added).

Even though we were going to be a tournament team, the enthusiasm for the basketball team wasn't entirely there even a year ago.  Fans weren't really excited about Michigan until it had its sights on winning a share of the regular season title in mid-February 2012.  Then the loss at home to Purdue brought out boo birds, because it looked like we lost our shot at the title. I admit, I'm not talking about booing at Crisler Arena, but the fanbase is much much larger than the attendees of any given game.

It seemed that in January 2012, people didn't like Morgan's development as a big man, and people felt we didn't have enough depth in the frontcourt and backcourt--five years into the Beilein's tenure.

I think we both agree to disagree on when exactly the naysayers shut up. 

I think we can both agree that we're proud of Michigan today (I salute your fandom and hope the good times continue to roll).  It's a good day to be a Michigan wolverine.

but to call it one (or even a few) fan seems to try to paint our fanbase as something better than it was.  Like another mgoblogger commented, it's easy to cheer this team when it's #1 in the country, and it's probably just as easy to say that you supported Coach B long before this season.  It seems the biggest moment was 2 years ago, sometime in January 2011.

In january we saw beilein win in East Lansing.  In November of that year, Mitch McGary verbally comitted to Michigan. 

Here are some articles I've been reading on Beilein and his program:

December 2010

http://www.michiganreview.com/archives/3663

January 2011

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/state-michigan-basketball

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/daniel-horton-rips-beilein

http://www.burgeoningwolverinestar.com/2011/01/john-beileins-time-is-coming.html

January 28, 2011

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2011/01/john_beilein_will_to_win_showe.html

January 2012

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/jan/22/beilein-shows-eye-for-talent-column/

The criticisms of Beilein's system and ability were many.  He's debunked many or all of them and continues to improve himself and his team. 
 

I took whatever enjoyment I could from those eras, knowing that Ellerbe was terrible at teaching the game and at recruiting. 

Amaker brought recruiting, but Courtney Sims was the best example of why Amaker was not a great coach.  No offense to either person, but Amaker didn't teach the game very well.

Sims  (also Daniel Horton, Dion Harris, Lester Abram, etc.) had so many physical gifts, but did so little with them.  He drove me nuts with how soft and turnover-prone he was for someone at 6'10+.  When Beilein developed DeShawn Sims into an undersized big men with many post moves, I knew that he could do what Amaker couldn't: teach the right way to play the game. That's why I thought it was a mistake by Udoh Ekpe to leave the program.

Among other things, Beilein also focused on retaining possession of the ball and shooting with proper technique. 

I'm happy for the program that it is finally reaping the benefits of so much work done to dig itself out of the hole that Ed Martin built.

The game of basketball is so beautiful when its played the right way.  Thanks to Coach B and his staff and players!  This year is so fun to watch.

My assumptions have flaws, because we don't know enough about how the teams rank out relative to each other this early in the B1G season.  Nevertheless, I thought I could get a gauge of the teams by looking at their performances in/out of conference.

At first I thought of creating only two tiers, but I thought that equating Wisconsin to Indiana (for example was too much of a stretch).  I thought four tiers worked out better, and so I placed teams into their tiers by considering their schedules in/out of conference as well as their losses.

Indiana, Minnesota and Michigan don't have very many losses and none of those losses were per se bad losses (losing at OSU by 3 is not a bad loss IMO).  Minnesota lost to Duke and Indiana, and I think they played them pretty close (although like Michigan vs. OSU, Minnesota fell behind by a large deficit early to Indiana, only to fight back in a tough venue).  Indiana losing only to Butler in a close game is ultimately one loss, even if it was to Butler.  Overall, based on watching these teams play, they look like very strong teams.

I put OSU, MSU and Wisconsin in the second tier because of losses they've each suffered and also because of noticeable flaws in their production.  OSU has limited scoring options but a great defense.  Before beating Michigan, OSU hadn't won a game against a ranked opponent; beating Michigan at OSU is solid, but I don't think OSU can perform offensively the rest of the season with any consistency like it did in the opening 10-15 minutes against Michigan.  I think if Michigan's young players had more road experience, the team probably would have beaten OSU had they met later in the season.  Anyway, OSU also had a bad loss to a slightly above average Illinois.  MSU has flaws with consistenly turning over the ball; also, MSU has been a bit lucky facing Iowa without its leading scorer and Nebraska without one of its leading rebounders/scorers.  Despite that luck, MSU hasn't exactly blown those teams out on the road and at home respectively.  MSU also has losses to Miami (ACC challenge) and to Connecticut; it's only good win is Kansas.  Lastly (re tier 2) I described above why I put Wisconsin in tier 2; while beating Illinois soundly in Madison is good, how good is Illinois really?  No really good wins for WI even if it is unbeaten in the conference so far; WI has some questionable (to say the least) losses.

Illinois, Purdue and Iowa look well-coached, but I think they might lack the horses (i.e. talent) that the teams in the top two tiers have.  They will still be tough teams to beat because they're talent isn't that wholly deficient. It's worth noting that Iowa and Illinois have at least somewhat new coaches still implementing their systems.  In contrast, Purdue has its system set with coach Painter, but its talent has dropped off a bit since Hummel and Co. (I forgot the names of the other studs in his class) left.

The bottom tier does seem to wholly lack talent relative to the top tiers; much of this has to do with injury (NW and PSU) it seems.

I do think that a strong case can be made that there isn't much separation between the top six teams; that is why I did the second analysis in which the baseline value of the two tiers are separated by only a value of one rather than two (as in the first analysis).

Finally, the major flaw I see in the scoring of the bottom tier is this: giving those teams a baseline value of 2 implies that meeting them at their home venue makes them 50% more difficult to beat (i.e. a jump from baseline value of 2 to a score of 3); I think that places too much value on them playing in their home venues.  Similarly, those teams don't become 50% less of a challenge (i.e. a jump from a baseline value of 2 to 1) by merely having to leave their home venues. 

Anyway, I thought it was a decent attempt at analyzing the data.  I don't have more time to make the analyses more accurate, but I thought it was worth putting the data out there with my limited analyses. Also, I hope it's clear that I added up the scoring of the once-played games for each team such that the addition created a number value; a lower value for that number suggested to me that the schedule was more difficult than that of a team with a higher value for that number.

Thanks for taking an interest. Unfortunately, I don't think I can add much more to the discussion any time soon, because I got deadlines to meet outside of mgoblog.  I have to save my free time to watch as many B1G games as I can, because I don't remember ever seeing the league as strong as it is this year. 

This seems to be the most obvious weakness defensively for our team.  If Horford were 100%, I'd be much more comfortable going to The Barn.

Fwiw, we don't get a return game with the gophers at Crisler.  I'm not sure if this is bad or good.  Playing them once is a plus, but not getting them at home is a minus.

Iverson, Isiah Thomas?  How about Magic Johnson? 

According to Umhoops.com, no big ten player--until Trey Burke thus far--has averaged 17 points and 7 assists. 

I'm not saying he's as good as Magic, but to even be mentioned in comparison to such a legend is pretty impressive. 

(note: umhoops was relaying the statistic from Dave Revsine)

is the best example of stupidity.  Also abnormal psychosis.  Seriously, you belong on the rcmb.  I can watch you meltdown there where it's normal to do so.  Stupidity doesn't have a worthwhile place in these parts. 

Watching rcmb meltdown at Michigan success is like watching Jerry Springer or a car wreck.  Trolling is making comments on rcmb or pushing the victims back in the car.  I don't post, I just watch.  Watching your schtick is a very similar experience.  Carry on, internet wolverine.

We both know I've stated numerous facts regarding the accomplishments of Beilein at 4-5 different programs (I've also stated that Izzo is a good coach that is overrated).   Beilein's success also includes few tournament runs in there for each program he coached relative to its stature.  I don't repeat the rest of his accomplishments here in this thread, because I did so in the previous thread, and guess what: I could not care less what, if any, silly perception is inferred via the internet.  Do you know what's reality?  The fact that you do care how your avatar persona is perceived in this venue. I think you're the one should seek help, troll. 

The evidence: (i) the number of posts and points you have; (ii) the frequency with which you post on this site (I read it much more than I write on it); (iii) the fact that you continue to respond to my alleged flamebait; and  likely (iv) the fact that you probably searched me to determine my previous content created. 

I care so little about you that I'm watching postgame video interviews from Michigan players and coachs and enjoying the meltdown at RCMB from afar everytime Beilein and Co. go hunting.  I'm also vaporizing.  So it's all good times as you keep trying to tell me my thoughts.  That's your opinion.  I keep giving you facts.  You keep obsessing, little defender of Izzo. 

It takes me 100 words to make 5-10 arguments.  It takes you 100 words to make one point.

Your writing is all over the place, so I responded in three parts so you could digest my arguments more easily.  You seem a little slow.

I remember you, because stupidity is a rarity around these parts.  You seem very slow.  Go hang out at RCMB, defender of izzo.

says that a great coach can't be better than izzo.

You don't seem to realize that determining who is better is a subjective endeavor.  It's not objective. 

Also, there are far more data points than this game that show that Beilein is a great coach.  He has built up 4-5 different programs successfully.  Izzo inherited the one he still coaches.  Beilein is better.  Just accept the opinion and deal with it. 

Your taunting is cute too.  Now off to bed, little defender of izzo.

otoh stauskas does not.  He is very good.

so is regular bacon.

I'm stating facts about both Izzo and Beilein to support my belief that Beilein is a better coach.  I'm also using those facts to show that the belief is credible.

In contrast, you're stating different facts and telling others what is acceptable to believe. 

I've not stated that Izzo is a bad coach.  He is a good coach.  I haven't seen any comment here stating otherwise.  I merely state with my comments that I believe Beilein is a better coach.  You can't win this argument no matter how much you want to.

Another difference between us is my preference for brevity that you seem to lack.  With words, less is more.

the guy who tells people what they should believe.  People tell him what they really believe, and the guy refuses to be wrong and continues trying to convince people that what they believe is actually wrong--"in fact."

Here, you basically tell me to follow the "non-arbitrary" bar set (by whom?) talking heads on ESPN or wherever. 

You then write far too many words to argue that it's all about the # of times a coach wins and whether he wins championships.

Yet strangely enough, here you post on mgoblog praising Coach Beilein for win #650 as a head coach: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/congratulations-coach-beilein-win-650

Somewhere in there I'm sure it's stated that he won a B1G title in his short time as Michigan's head coach. In comparison, Izzo as a head coach has 422 wins.

So is it credible and ok for me to believe Beilein is a better coach than Izzo before Beilein at Michigan gets out of the first weekend?  Incidentally, he did this already at WVU.  He also has the record for most programs taken to the NCAA tournament.

Rationalize your way out of that one so that you can once again "not be wrong."  You can't resist, because you're "that guy."

what happens to these players when it's time to leave MSU???

The reality is that teaching defense and rebounding used to be enough as a tournament strategy for college basketball.  Now, I'm not so sure that's enough. 

Moreover, players want success at college and the next level.  The problem for MSU is that elite programs do more than successfully teach only defense/rebounding (note: Kearney was one of the better defenders MSU had).  Scoring and ball handling and bball-IQ are big parts of playing at the next level.

There are a lot of freshmen in the backcourt for MSU that have to guard Burke and THJ and Co.  I can't wait to watch those games.

...Beilein is better than Izzo is more than credible.  You're arbitrary bar of the first weekend is useless.  Beilein has proven his chops before Michigan and at Michigan.

Izzo coaches a good strategy for tournaments.   That does not mean he efficiently or fully develops the individual talent he recruits.  That does not mean he is a great regular season coach.  That does not mean he handles refs with class or character.  That does not mean he handles his players' with class or character.  That does not mean he handles the media with class or character.

Izzo is great at advancing deep into the tournament.  He has one national championship.  Good for him.  I heard it takes some luck to win one of those.

Beilein is winner, a better man, a better coach.  If you understand basketball, you can see it in the way his teams play.  And that is not just in regards to this year's highly ranked team. 

much less than a better coach.  When a player transfers away from Michigan (because he obviously feels that is the best decision for his life), Coach Beilein publicly wishes him well.

Izzo on the other hand cannot ever get tired of hearing his own voice.  Though he similarly wishes Kearney well, he also calls his transfer a "strange decision." 

Sorry, but the word "strange" can't take on anything remotely positive in that context.  Izzo seems like such a narcisistic crybaby.

It's hilarious that so many fans treat him like a god, because he is not nearly as good as advertised.

that's also very impressive considering the opposite situations they each inherited re state of the program. 

for recognizing Horford's contributions, especially the ones that indeed did not make the stat box. 

we're going to need him to step up at some point this season.  Vogrich is a senior who has put a lot of time in.

Freshmen are still freshmen and may not have the correct mindset early on in the big moments. 

automatic for 3.

Today he was 3/4.  That's about right. 

would you trade GRIII for Dawson?

I like GRIII as a shooter better than Dawson.  Plus, I think GRIII being younger gives him more of a ceiling. 

Morgan, Novak would have been playing the center position instead of power forward.  Without him, Michigan probably doesn't win the B1G or make the tournament. I think there's a good argument for Jordan Morgan

imo, he's a great recent B1G player.  His game reminds me of Stauskas, except Nik has a higher ceiling it seems. 

he's owned recruiting in the state since after Michigan got in trouble (note: it's like Michigan has owned the state in football until recently; but re Izzo it's for worse reasons, bc msu football had no punishment in football to put it at a disadvantage).  Michigan is back to recruiting at those same levels now, where making the first round is somewhat expected.  Msu really needs to get Jabari Parker for 2013 or risk having zero players for 2013.  

I love to watch college basketball and played in organized games into my 30s.  It's an awesome game; and I've watched Michigan (and kept up with msu) since the mid 80s.  I just don't think Izzo coaches a game that develops players very well individually over 4 years.  He does coach well in tournament settings though.

I've said it in previous years too:  I think Beilein is a better coach, but only time will tell. 

His recruiting is also surpassing what Amaker did (which was very good in its own right) notwithstanding it being an issue raised by his early critics.

Indiana looks exceptional (like Michigan) right now, especially Zeller.

There were so many boybands at that time, I got confused.

Also, my bieber comment above was meant to be sarcastic, but I don't express that intent well on the internet.  my bad.

I'm a huge fan of Stauskus.  I honestly was excited more about his arrival to Michigan than I was about those of the other four guys.  I think it's because he was a bit of a sleeper on peoples' radars. 

Good luck to them all as the season continues undeafeated. 

In 5 games, Michigan has played 2 teams with comparable talent in its most recent games.  During the first 3 games, it would be difficult to find fault with any player's game when Michigan wins by an average of 30 points to start the season 3-0. 

In the fourth game against Pitt however, Trey Burke shot 31% (5-16) from the field in 38 minutes of play; he was 5 for 12 on 2-pt shots and 0-4 on 3-pt shots.  A number of those shots were poor shot selection.  His 6-assists-to-1-turnover rate was the highlight for him that game.

In tonight's game against K-state, Burke shot a better % (approx. 50%) from the field, but he often took contested shots, especially from 3-pt land from which he was 0-2.  I can also remember a play in which he drove into the lane where 3-4 purple jerseys had collapsed; he put up a shot (that did not even hit the rim and therefore no chance of getting rebounded) that had no chance and might have even gotten blocked.  There were definitely Michigan players ready to shoot if he would have made the extra pass.  On this play, he may even have been marked for a turnover.  He had 5 turnovers and 4 assists in 32 minutes of play.

Let's also not forget that he broke a team rule and had to sit out the first exhibition game.

It is early in the season, so I'm not at any level of worry yet.  I'll just say Burke is catching my attention so far for wrong reasons more than right ones.

we never call our home field "the woodshed."

And even then, don't publicly brag about it.  That might not be smart.

no accountability, no leadership

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guA_4AzXqh0

ND beating MSU at MSU followed by Michigan beating ND at ND sounds pretty sweet.  I'll take that one. 

because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties . . .

it's great. to be.  a michigan wolverine.

 "If you get busted"

The legal system had double (or more) standards even if you do in fact get busted.

My answer is thus no.  The legal system in the US (and most other countries) is a joke.

I learned this watching The Wire. 

same as not /having good ball-handling.  In my experience, ball-handling is fundamental and more about ball security in general.

Lacking a quick first step is specifically about attacking the hoop.  Some players seem to do this naturally without issues; THJ doesn't seem to be one of those guys.  If that's his only issue this year, I think we'll be good. 

but our team's lines currently lack the depth necessary to go against all those quality opponents over a season.  Hope for the best, expect the worst?  Idk, but I like our chances that the coaches will get the most out of the players. 

I hope BWC and Richard Ash step up their games such that Pipkens is an option after them; then this season could be special.  The Alabama game should be telling. 

we could be really good if they work at it.  The team is much longer than it was with Stu and Novak.  The frosh have to catch up with their defensive IQ though.

to suggest other cover-ups.  The ends justified the means for ol' Joe Pa when he covered up Sandusky's illness.

http://verbalcommits.com/schools/michigan 

but I give a healthy THJ the advantage over the starter at the 2 for MSU (one of two true freshman or Appling or Trice).  This doesn't even factor in my Sam-Webb-gutt feeling that Stauskus will have a good to great freshman year.

I think until we see Dawson back to form, SF is a push, because Kearney hasn't shown much that I can tell.  Green was so integral to the off./def. schemes at this position or at the 4.

Front court is a Sparty advantage, with Horford and Beifeldt having the most upside as x-factors (its unknown what they bring, but they've had time to develop physically at least) though.  Just like at the other positions for both teams, there are highly touted true freshmen competing at the 5 for MSU.

somehow I don't think mark smiled as much as Shane Morris does.

it's the best investment I've ever made.  I'm reminded of this regularly.

can get dealt into AA situations in the short term.  Mathematics says it won't last.

This will give you an initial lens through which you can properly interpret a comment made. 

Once I started viewing comments in this manner, the trolls became more obvious.

"He was a Michigan State guy, he wanted to go to Michigan State, and as soon as we walked in the door, they said, ‘we know you’re a State guy, but we guarantee when you leave you’ll be a Michigan guy,’" said Chandler Park coach John Jergovich, who accompanied York on the visit.

. . .

“As soon as I called them, I was like, 'You were right, you changed me, I’m not a State guy, I’m a Wolverine,'” York said.

The 18th commitment in the loaded 2013 class is the second receiver in the class, joining Jaron Dukes of Columbus, Ohio.

The extended tour of “every inch of Michigan’s campus,” as Jergovich described it, was enough to keep York up all night pondering the decision. His other offers were from smaller programs but he’s started to emerge at the summer workout camps.

“I was really surprised when they offered,” York said. “They said I’ve been under their radar and some of them said in my highlights I made it look too easy, they had to see me in a camp. I’ve been showing out in these camps.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20120509/SPORTS06/120509053/Recruiting-Michigan-nabs-18th-commit-for-13-WR-Csont-e-York 

+1 Nicely played there. I'm starting season 3 and it's getting pretty good.

It seems like you're certain that the future is probably uncertain.

to Trey Burke. With his work ethic, I am very confident he'll do well. Michigan will be fine w/o him, but it'd be great w him. Go Blue, TB.

yes, losing a mental edge or hunger is so very very complicated

/s

/facepalm

You're tired-legs-fatigue theory is a complicated physical explanation.  You should stop overthinking this stuff. 

they apparently are fans.

Remind me of the fans calling for Beilein's job last year before sparty beatdown @ breslin.
They beat their chests only when the W-L record seems to support their position. Fire RR! fire Beilein! ... NCAA tourney, 11-2 sugar, big ten title ... Love Hoke! Love Beilein! Told you so (re RR)!

Harbough is conveniently forgotten.

You're smart enough to spot the obvious hyperbole I used there. I obviously cannot know each & every mgoblog-user's position on RR's successor. I know nobody supported Hoke's hiring w as much passion as they now do in touting his success. What's weak is using that success somehow as proof that RR wouldn't have improved.

For our upcoming win this Sunday. Other than that, great job on the banners.

With a redshirt for this year, doesn't Horford have 3 years of eligibility left?

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so urban meyer is trying to make fun of the academic majors chosen at Michigan rather than what's available at Michigan???

Does his buckeye logic somehow lead him to the conclusion that an OSU education is better than one from Michigan?  I really don't understand the joke he's trying to make.  Is it making fun of the players at Michigan or of the institution?

This simply does not compute.

Michigan is to Ohio as Sheldon is to Penny.

butt-in on a Michigan assistant coach?

Is this another "first time at one of these events" for the coach?

This is supposed to be a tough guy?? Wtf.

More like a pussy (meow cat, dantonio).

Dantonio, you're such a pussy cat. Crazy pussy cat.

minus those two, don't mind the team too much.

Green is as talkative and whiney as Izzo.  Especially about his three losses to Michigan.

No offense to the OP or to Sam Grant, but the Michigan @ Ohio game on Sunday offers plenty to look forward to.  Go Blue!

Does a full-court press like Arkansas. We will continue to get better. (I hope Horford gets back this season)

1. Criticize toughness of the izzone student crowd
2. Rationalize big ten losses as road games that are tough to win in
3. Characterize AA as not tough relative to most places sparty played in
4. Justify hummel-acl comment by comparing to AA environment

5. Hope & pray the izzone makes comments about acl injuries & grandmas to Michigan players to help his team win.

Izzone knows the purdue comments are inexcusable ... but he's really butthurt about losing 3 in a row to Michigan. Hence the two sides of his mouth continue diverging.

as seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p75ud3A3cxI ) at the 7:45 mark showing post game of 2010 MSU at Michigan basketball game.

This is why I dislike Izzo.  Yeah, yeah, he has many wins.  He's not classy like Beilein.  Beilein has poise and respect whether he wins or loses.  Last night, when Michigan lost the lead, Beilein didn't change his demeanor.  Izzo was jumping up and down all game long.  I turned to my buddy and told him that if the teams reflected their coaches, Michigan would pull out the win.  Boooyahhhh, Sparty!!!!

3 in a row, baby!!!

Trey in a row!

very nice.  +1

3 ball? 

Baller Trey?  Trey Baller?

Trey Up Baller (Straight up baller)?

For sure. NW could be in early slump like Michigan was last season. Close games lost. Good team I think.

66-64 Mich.

6 secs left.

Foul on Mich.

Mich 60-58. Tech foul on Mich. Nw 2 freebies & posession.

Hits contested shots!

Good!

On thj

54-54

3:30 in the game.

Against a 1,3,1 zone. The team also did more film study than running court situations the last couple days to get back their legs after WI game. I think burke will have a solid second half.

I think Stauskis can be that good for us.

He's playing hard. I think he ll settle in.

Playing well despite not scoring

Entering this game. It lost a really close game to IL. We have to earn a win against nw.

by Shurna. Evan left his feet.

13-10 nw. 13:00 left in the first half. Hardaway w a layup & two 3pt shots for 8, out of a timeout.