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|5 days 10 hours ago||Suppose that heating produced correct pressure when delivered||
Did the team then violate any rules by allowing the balls to later cool down to the ambient temperature? If the balls conformed to regulations when checked intially by the refs and the Pats did nothing further to them during the game, did they satisfy the letter of the law (if not the spirit of it)?
|1 week 2 days ago||Harbaugh has a far more convincing argument||
"I've been an NFL Pro Bowl QB myself; and I have trained QB's to win both NFC and AFC titles as well as get to a Super Bowl."
Harbaugh also can point right to his former pupil Andrew Luck, who is right now one win away from a Super Bowl.
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||My own belief in the Cubs has its roots in Theology||
--the knowledge of Theo Epstein.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||distortions again||
Oh st had a single bad year and amassed many ill gotten gains under tressel. the places where meyer amassed his major accomplishments were not at the minor programs but at the established ones. Without Fla and Ohio, he'd be a nobody
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I said coach, not HC||
and I think it's been 14-15 years. Regardless, if you want to change the numbers, go ahead, but they will not change the points being made.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I believe that I did accurately list many of his accomplishments||
I could have said much more about how he attained them but I prefer the high road.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Coach of the year is more specific to coaching achievements||
A national title is a shared accomplishemt.
Clearly, Harbaugh proved that he could cut it in the NFL. He did great.
Meyer, by contrast, has a history of claiming health problems and backing out of health problems (he retired twice, each not long after losing to Saban). That is one reason why I suggested he could not cut it, as Habaugh so clearly did.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I agree that a national title is more team-oriented||
but the point is that it reflects the skill of many other individuals, not just the HC. The HC deserves some of the credit but not all. When he wins an award for his coaching, it is more specific. For example, it may consider that he started with a very poor team (as JH did with Stanford) but built it into their best team in 75 years (#4). To me, that is just as impressive as coming into a program stacked with 4-5* players and ending up #1. To do turn a failing professional team into a title contender three straight years is even more impressive to me.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Bo never won a national title||
He did something much tougher. He built a program. He built a program with character. Is Tressel a greater coach than Bo beause he had a ring? (no comment).
Meyer, likewise, has built his resume by opportunistically hopping between established programs. He at first climbed aboard a program built by Spurrier (after an interval) and then one built by Tressel/Cooper/Bruce/Hayes. Those teams had already won titles. They already had reputations as football schools.
A "ring" is not only enabled by the school's prior reputation, which enables recruiting. It also is is the accomplishment of multiple assistants and 80+ players.
And it's not true that Harbaugh won no titles. Harbaugh won AFC and NFC championships, which were in a far more competitive arena than Meyer's. He did so despite starting with a horrible roster and without being able to recruit players based on the team's reputation. Nevertheless, he finished #5 all time win % among the NFL greats--ahead of Halas, Shula, Brown, Belichick, Ditka, Dungy, Seifert, Switzer, Cowher....I could go on. In that august company, Meyer's name does not even deserve mention.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Ok, I see your point now.||
Of course, by definition, in preseason polls, nothing HAS been proven on the field.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I agree they are not equal. Rather, Harbaugh>Meyer||
He accomplishments are at a higher level and in a shorter time.
Your focus on a "ring" is a convenient deception, since it not only ignores everything else in the OP but also the fact that a "ring" is not the sole accomplishment of a coach. It is the acomplishment of an entire team, including assistants and 80+ players. Meyer's focus on these "rings" reveals his self-aggrandizing nature--he takes credit for the accomplishments of many others.
A coach of the year award is a more specific indicant of coaching quality. While Meyer has won 2 in college, Harbaugh has also won two--one in college and one at a higher (NFL) level.
I think that Meyer knows he couldn't cut it in the NFL, and that's why he's spent 30 years in college.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I think there will be a battle of words to convince recruits||
that UM offers a better future.
Those words do not need to be limited to preseason polls, given that both coaches have already have very long paper trails.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||The 30 years includes the time he spent as an asst coach||
not all of which were at Fla. I believe that the the statements are accurate
|3 weeks 6 days ago||and Meyer needs to compile a #5 all time NFL record||
to catch up with Harbaugh. Frankly though, I don't think he could take the heat. He'd be retiring over and over for "health reasons."
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Yes, the talking is inevitable and has already started||
Ohio will want recruits to narrowly focus on recent outcomes in the rivalry, involving previous coaches and ignoring the fact that the UM under Harbaugh will be far far different.
Our ammunition lies in pointing out those differences. As you say, Harbaugh won't be shy about doing so. Neither should we---unless we just want to keep turning the cheek. RR and Hoke tended to avoid confrontation--and where did that get us?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||The problem is that recruits WILL be comparing them||
whether you like it or not. The other guys will serve up a lot of distortions to these their commits and 2015 recruits, after JH calls them on the phone. Our coach has already compiled an impressive on-the-field record, and I see no need to wait to publicize that.
|4 weeks 13 min ago||A few comparisons between the two coaches||
Meyer ranks #10 in college win pct; Harbaugh ranks #5 all time in the NFL.
Meyer won national college coach of the year for two different years in 30 years.
Urban spent 15 years as an assistant college coach.
Harbaugh spent 14 years as an NFL pro QB, going to the Pro Bowl and winning the AFC player of the year.
|4 weeks 1 hour ago||Brady's facebook page||
Has a picture of Harbaugh
|4 weeks 9 hours ago||Not 2015 but FWIW 2016 5* OL Liam Eichenberg||
Another 4* reports interest on 247 but it is on premium and I do not recognize his picture.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||Indeed, The NFL Grinch sadly underestimated||
the people of blueville
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||Hacket, Schlissel & others showed Courage, Strength & Brilliance||
Their search contrasted sharply with prior ones by Brandon, Martin, and Coleman. The latter reminded me of the line from Bertold Brecht:
"I fed the tiger
I fled the fleas
What got me at last?
Today, our leaders showed us what can be achieved by working as a team, not settling for anything but the best, and managing a meddlesome media that have their own agendas.
Their courage, intelligence and strength demonstrated the excellence that is Michigan.
They made me proud to be an alum.
|4 weeks 21 hours ago||His family wants to stay put||
so they don't have to keep uprooting their kids. That was one reason why they chose to come to AA. Also, if he were just coming for a couple of years, his 75 y/o father would not be moving to AA with him (reportedly). FWIW, I read somewhere too that the agreement with the 49ers precludes him from returning to the NFL for a given number of years.
|4 weeks 21 hours ago||Belichick had a sub-500 record with the Browns for 5 years||
After there being a HC, he actually had to go back to being an Asst for a number of years.
He also had a bad first year as HC with the pats, but overall his record with them alone (win%=.73) would have otherwise qualified him for #4 on the all time win pct list.
|4 weeks 21 hours ago||BB=Bill Belichick||
as shown in the list, #14
|4 weeks 22 hours ago||Or will Saban one day be known as the SEC's Harbaugh?||
Right now, how you compare the two depends on your perspective: what's more impressive: the NFL or college?
Both Harbaugh Saban were NFL coaches who came back to college, Harbaugh did far better in the NFL according to their win %. Saban=47%,, Harbaugh=70%, the best among active coaches and #5 all time.
On the other nand, Saban so far has amassed a college record without any modern-day equal. But he has done so at powerhouse schools--Ala and LSU (which won national titiles without him).. What if--like Harbaugh-- Saban had instead coached at Stanford for 4 years, like Harbaugh did? How many national titles would he have? Answer: almost certainly none, since Stanford has NEVER finished #1 in AP or UPI/Coaches' polls. Would he even have done as well as Harbaugh, who took Stanford from a perennial loser to #4 in the nation (it's best record in 75 years)?
I do not claim to know the answers. But it will be interesting to see what happens if Harbaugh coaches at a historically powerful school for as long a Saban.
|4 weeks 22 hours ago||When I compiled the stats, he was||
Has has he actually left yet? If he's signed the contract, when does he officially take the UM job? I don't know. In any case, BB soon can claim to have the #1 active coach's win %. But JH will still be #5 and BB #14 all time.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||It's like the guy who's going 90mph, discovers he has no brakes||
and says: "What, me worry? (like Alfred E Neuman in Mad Magazine)
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Rename the blog: The Eleven Worriers||
|4 weeks 1 day ago||ESPN benefits in the short term from keeping the story going||
They get more viewers and clicks on this story. They get more attention to focus on the ESPN telecast of the UM Illinois game, where JH would presumably be introduced.
Perhaps unwittingly this continued coverage is actually doing UM a favor. So long as there is any perceived uncertainty, the news coverage of Harbaugh to UM continues. It continues to dominate the news cycle and drown out the already weak sounds from the bowl season. The latter, in the long term, however, may not be so good for ESPN.
The continued coverage also underlines the fact that Harbaugh is the hottest coaching name in the nation.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||What strikes me from your excellent summary||
is how differently Hackett operates from Dave Brandon. Brandon engaged in a long series of poorly thought-out moves--among them, the deal with Notre Dame that allowed them to back out of the series with one more home game than UM. Why he would he have agreed to a contract that would allow that?
(scratches head incredulously)