...says Denzel Valentine of Big Ten Tourney favorite MSU, which is 5-7 in its last 12 games. Cumong, man.
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|4 years 7 weeks ago||One interesting topic might||
One interesting topic might be evaluating the quantity vs quality strategies. For instance, in the 2010 class thus far, USC has pulled 14 total commits to Oklahoma's 29. But the avg star rating for USC is 4.0 while the avg star rating to Oklahoma is 3.52 (as per rivals). It might be interesting to determine which of these strategies is historically more successful. Of course this might be harder than it sounds, as teams may not utilize this strategy on a consistent basis. I suppose you could base ur research on team performance 2/3 yrs after each particular class.
|4 years 10 weeks ago||He was listed at 6'4" 197lbs.||
He was listed at 6'4" 197lbs. I thought prior to the game that he was closer to 215 but I would say about 200 is accurate. There was a play where he got plowed over when laying out a block for the rb when he reversed fields after a hand off. It had a lot to do with poor pad level on the block, but you could tell that he could definitely use another 20-25 lbs. But based on tate's physical progression, i dont think that would be a problem.
|4 years 10 weeks ago||he definitely had some||
he definitely had some flashes of brilliance (that play in one of the early games where he pointed the receiver into the endzone was incredible). but there is no question that his decision-making could use improvement, which is obviously expected of a freshman. But there is really no excuse for putting the ball on the ground as often as he did. Hopefully he'll be able to clean that up going into next season.
|4 years 12 weeks ago||i didnt mean that i dont||
i didnt mean that i dont think he can play safety. its just that the more coverage responsibility he has, the more likely he will have to wait to see the field.
|4 years 12 weeks ago||lets not get ahead of||
lets not get ahead of ourselves. if we end up with the 10th best recruiting class, which im somewhat doubtful of, that means that 10 teams either improved by more than we did (if they were worse of as bad as we were) or reaffirmed their current position (if they were better than us). Although if our chances of a NC went from 0.5% to 1%, i guess your statement still holds...u so smart
|4 years 12 weeks ago||Out of curiosity, has anyone||
Out of curiosity, has anyone seen what this kid can do in pass coverage. every defensive highlight iv seen have been strictly pass rush and run support. i no some people were saying that he might project as a safety, but i think that was based primarily on his current size and speed. im not even sure he had coverage responsibilities in hs. he looks like a guy that can really cover the outside runs and can beat the rb to the edge. he obviously has great athleticism, but if he doesnt have coverage ability/experience yet, i think hes a shoe in for a redshirt.
|4 years 12 weeks ago||i just dont see enough change||
i just dont see enough change in the defensive personnel next season to think that they will be substantially better. although if the offense can duplicate its progress from yr1 to yr 2, well be scoring 40+ points a game and the defense wont even matter
|4 years 12 weeks ago||the linebackers scare me tons||
the linebackers scare me tons but this certainly looks like a solid team. however there are a number of big10 teams that have brought in good to great recruiting classes over the past two seasons, namely PSU (especially in the current recruiting class) and OSU, so i wouldnt declare us the big10 champions just yet. we should certainly compete, but i think the big10 in general will be pretty competitive.
|4 years 12 weeks ago||If we could find 1 kid out of||
If we could find 1 kid out of the 20,000+ undergraduate students here at Michigan that can shoot the 3 at over 30% the system would probably be more effective
|4 years 36 weeks ago||in this order...||
in this order...
1. latwan anderson
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|4 years 37 weeks ago||while i tend to agree that||
while i tend to agree that the LT is somewhat less important to the passing game in this system than in traditional pocket passing systems, LT will still have an extremely significant impact on the run game. And being that LT is the most glaring questionmark on the line, i do think that Ortmann's play will be very important to the success of the UM offense
|4 years 38 weeks ago||im thinking 12-1 with a loss||
im thinking 12-1 with a loss to DState, but for the sake of being realistic, ill go with 13-0
|4 years 38 weeks ago||im not just basing this on||
im not just basing this on his rushing numbers. in watching his highlight tapes, which are supposed to be his most impressive plays, i didnt really see the incredible and elusive running ability youd expect from a guy with his speed. granted he was playing at a high level of competition, but his opponents will only be getting better. he seems a lot more fast than quick; he picks a sideline and runs for it rather than make cuts and evade tacklers.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||sadly i dont think denard||
sadly i dont think denard will ultimately pan out. dont bite my head off plz...i know a lot of people here are very high on him. but the completion percentage in h.s. is a bit scary, and to be honest, im not sure hes really the running threat that his track numbers make him out to be. watching his film, he didnt seem to have the type of shiftiness that it takes to elude D1 DEs and LBs; and his rushing numbers seemed to reflect this.
My hopes are that he can hold down the back up position for the next two years. by the time denard is a junior, hopefully DG will have established himself as a feasible backup, and DRobinson can make the switch to WR.
I think tate will actually be very effective during his time in college. perhaps this is a bit of a cliche term, but i think tate will epidemize the title of "game manager." He doesnt have the game changing athleticism of a pryor or a vince young, but hes got sufficient arm strength, and exceptional accuracy. this seems to fit perfectly with the RR system: screens, slants, qb rollouts, increased utilizaiton of the TE. I wouldnt expect the Henne to Manningham 40 yard bombs. but I do expect Tate to spread the field well, hit open recievers in stride, and annoy defenses with his elusiveness and ability throw on the run.
With all of that said, I predict DG to redshirt his frosh yr. During his redshirt freshman yr, i think he will get occasional snaps spread out throughout the season + the insignificant minutes (assuming we ever blow somone out). I think his redshirt sophomore yr will start out much the same way, but by the later games I predict he and tate will be splitting snaps, close to fifty-fifty (or 60-40), a la leak and tebow.
|4 years 39 weeks ago||i think your looking at the||
i think your looking at the rich rod approach a little wrong. people have noted that he is able to succeed with less than spectularly rated guys. but that is not to say that RR doesnt prefer the 4-5 star guys. while RR can use a 5'7 electron slot guy in a way that most teams wouldnt, he would still prefer having a 6'0 slot guy with the same type of shiftiness. recently we havent gotten much of the latter, but things could certainly shift in that direction with a few solid seasons under his belt.
|4 years 39 weeks ago||im still very concerned about||
im still very concerned about linebacker. especially if m. robinson stays at linebacker, im not sure how many viable starters are coming out of this class so far. i think people got so caught up in our dline during the 2006 and 2007 seasons that they didnt give due credit to our lbackers. burgess, crable and harris were, to put it mildly, key to our defensive success. and right now, both on the roster and in the 2009 and 2010 recruiting classes, i dont see anyone with that caliber of talent (especially at mlb)
|4 years 39 weeks ago||...and if we can establish a||
...and if we can establish a solid pass game and spread the field, perhaps even a show a downfield threat, it should open things up for a more effective run game.
|4 years 46 weeks ago||I wasnt basing my analysis on||
I wasnt basing my analysis on stonums, or anyone elses, numbers. If you watched stonum play, he wasnt getting seperation on his routes, he wasnt able to get off jams, he failed pretty miserably at blocking, and he dropped a lot of catchable balls. None of those can really be attributed to the poor QB play. Granted he might have done better with more opportunity and more balls well-thrown his way, but at the very least u cannot deny that he is at least unproven, and in my opinion disappointing thus far
|4 years 46 weeks ago||People have said this before,||
People have said this before, but the fact is that our WRs, with the exception of Matthews, are entirely unproven/unreliable. Its easy to get excited about ther potential (a la stonum), but until we see them perform on the field, it really is just potential. If you go down the list, I dont know that we have that much to get excited about YET.
Terrence Robinson hasnt played in game yet.
Roy Roundtree, althou impressive in the spring game, was playing against the michigan 12th string defense.
Gallon has had some nice fluff said about him thus far, but hes still a true freshman.
Savoy is unfortunately not our savior
JeRon Stokes is a true freshman
Hemingway is back and look for him to be our guy.
Martell Webb has gotten some attention over the spring and could contribute some.
Overall there is potential, like I said, but outside of Matthews, Koger, and possibly Hemmingway Im not sure who on that list we can really feel confident about. In order for this to be a successful WR core, someone (be it Hemmingway, Stonum, Stokes, or other) needs to establish themselves as a legit deep threat so that we can open the field for our speedsters. Moreover, said speedsters need to consistently catch the ball cleanly and consistently.
|4 years 46 weeks ago||i think ur forgetting the||
i think ur forgetting the fact that denard had about a 42% pass completion percentage in high school. from what iv heard its not that hard to look good in a 2 minute highlight compilation of your whole career.
|4 years 47 weeks ago||Bottom line is we have a lot||
Bottom line is we have a lot of options this yr at returning. Between Smith, Gallon, Odoms, Toussaint, Matthews, Cissoko, Warren, Turner (im pretty sure he took back kicks in HS), Shaw, Woolfolk, etc., there are some options and im sure theyll all get looks. I have faith that the staff will lend plenty of attention to finding a few adequate players and developing them into smart and secure returners
|4 years 47 weeks ago||Well if u ask me sam mcguffie||
Well if u ask me sam mcguffie shood be returning punts and kicks... at least then we woodnt have any drops or fumbles
|4 years 47 weeks ago||Come on give the guy a break.||
Come on give the guy a break. Lets treat this thread as a: "Who should get the kick and punt returns?"
And we can consider McFarlin's position to be: not odoms
|4 years 47 weeks ago||does anyone else find it||
does anyone else find it crazy that hes actually recruiting other wide recievers (chris dunkley) to compete against him. gotta love the team player mentality!
|4 years 48 weeks ago||As has been said repeatedly,||
As has been said repeatedly, in all likelihood he is a silent commit; meaning that he has informed RR of his commitment to UM, but has elected to not publicly announce due to the fact that his coach is an assbag (i mean this in the nicest way possible)
|4 years 48 weeks ago||Iv loved everything Iv seen||
Iv loved everything Iv seen and heard about lewan, but i really think he has the least chance of seeing the field of all of the freshman Olineman. He needs to add a considerable amount of bulk, and he is new to football. all of the scouts have said that his cieling is thru the roof, but hes not ther yet. i suspect hell backup in 2010, and hopefully start as a redshirt sophomore; althou if Omameh and Hugye lock up the tackle positions, he may have to wait until hes a junior.
|4 years 48 weeks ago||1. i did mention Oneal. I||
1. i did mention Oneal. I have him slotted at RT. and from everything iv heard bout him, hes more of a marshmellow man than a monster.
|4 years 48 weeks ago||I dont know if that is||
I dont know if that is something they can do midseason tho. I think that is more of a summer practice decision. If ortman gets f'd up in game 1, i dont see them moving someone over with just one week to learn the new position. i think it is more likely that they mean that they will take the best 5 Olineman, and move them around now (a la Schilling). That is why i asked about the possibility of Omameh moving to LT.
I could be wrong tho...so ill leave that up to somone who has played our coached the Oline
|4 years 48 weeks ago||But u have to consider the||
But u have to consider the fact that 2 projected starters are seniors. and schilling could depart if he has a breakout yr (this is a bit overly optimistic). thinking about next yr, u want ur young talent to get some in-game experience so that they can compete for the starting job. i think it really depends on how far away they are. For example, if the coaching staff thinks that Washington could potentially start at RG when Moosman departs, then ther gonna want him to get in some time this season.