|7 years 8 weeks ago||One interesting topic might||
One interesting topic might be evaluating the quantity vs quality strategies. For instance, in the 2010 class thus far, USC has pulled 14 total commits to Oklahoma's 29. But the avg star rating for USC is 4.0 while the avg star rating to Oklahoma is 3.52 (as per rivals). It might be interesting to determine which of these strategies is historically more successful. Of course this might be harder than it sounds, as teams may not utilize this strategy on a consistent basis. I suppose you could base ur research on team performance 2/3 yrs after each particular class.
|7 years 12 weeks ago||He was listed at 6'4" 197lbs.||
He was listed at 6'4" 197lbs. I thought prior to the game that he was closer to 215 but I would say about 200 is accurate. There was a play where he got plowed over when laying out a block for the rb when he reversed fields after a hand off. It had a lot to do with poor pad level on the block, but you could tell that he could definitely use another 20-25 lbs. But based on tate's physical progression, i dont think that would be a problem.
|7 years 12 weeks ago||he definitely had some||
he definitely had some flashes of brilliance (that play in one of the early games where he pointed the receiver into the endzone was incredible). but there is no question that his decision-making could use improvement, which is obviously expected of a freshman. But there is really no excuse for putting the ball on the ground as often as he did. Hopefully he'll be able to clean that up going into next season.
|7 years 13 weeks ago||i didnt mean that i dont||
i didnt mean that i dont think he can play safety. its just that the more coverage responsibility he has, the more likely he will have to wait to see the field.
|7 years 13 weeks ago||lets not get ahead of||
lets not get ahead of ourselves. if we end up with the 10th best recruiting class, which im somewhat doubtful of, that means that 10 teams either improved by more than we did (if they were worse of as bad as we were) or reaffirmed their current position (if they were better than us). Although if our chances of a NC went from 0.5% to 1%, i guess your statement still holds...u so smart
|7 years 13 weeks ago||Out of curiosity, has anyone||
Out of curiosity, has anyone seen what this kid can do in pass coverage. every defensive highlight iv seen have been strictly pass rush and run support. i no some people were saying that he might project as a safety, but i think that was based primarily on his current size and speed. im not even sure he had coverage responsibilities in hs. he looks like a guy that can really cover the outside runs and can beat the rb to the edge. he obviously has great athleticism, but if he doesnt have coverage ability/experience yet, i think hes a shoe in for a redshirt.
|7 years 14 weeks ago||i just dont see enough change||
i just dont see enough change in the defensive personnel next season to think that they will be substantially better. although if the offense can duplicate its progress from yr1 to yr 2, well be scoring 40+ points a game and the defense wont even matter
|7 years 14 weeks ago||the linebackers scare me tons||
the linebackers scare me tons but this certainly looks like a solid team. however there are a number of big10 teams that have brought in good to great recruiting classes over the past two seasons, namely PSU (especially in the current recruiting class) and OSU, so i wouldnt declare us the big10 champions just yet. we should certainly compete, but i think the big10 in general will be pretty competitive.
|7 years 14 weeks ago||If we could find 1 kid out of||
If we could find 1 kid out of the 20,000+ undergraduate students here at Michigan that can shoot the 3 at over 30% the system would probably be more effective
|7 years 38 weeks ago||in this order...||
in this order...
1. latwan anderson
|7 years 38 weeks ago||deleted||
|7 years 39 weeks ago||while i tend to agree that||
while i tend to agree that the LT is somewhat less important to the passing game in this system than in traditional pocket passing systems, LT will still have an extremely significant impact on the run game. And being that LT is the most glaring questionmark on the line, i do think that Ortmann's play will be very important to the success of the UM offense
|7 years 40 weeks ago||im thinking 12-1 with a loss||
im thinking 12-1 with a loss to DState, but for the sake of being realistic, ill go with 13-0
|7 years 40 weeks ago||im not just basing this on||
im not just basing this on his rushing numbers. in watching his highlight tapes, which are supposed to be his most impressive plays, i didnt really see the incredible and elusive running ability youd expect from a guy with his speed. granted he was playing at a high level of competition, but his opponents will only be getting better. he seems a lot more fast than quick; he picks a sideline and runs for it rather than make cuts and evade tacklers.
|7 years 40 weeks ago||sadly i dont think denard||
sadly i dont think denard will ultimately pan out. dont bite my head off plz...i know a lot of people here are very high on him. but the completion percentage in h.s. is a bit scary, and to be honest, im not sure hes really the running threat that his track numbers make him out to be. watching his film, he didnt seem to have the type of shiftiness that it takes to elude D1 DEs and LBs; and his rushing numbers seemed to reflect this.
My hopes are that he can hold down the back up position for the next two years. by the time denard is a junior, hopefully DG will have established himself as a feasible backup, and DRobinson can make the switch to WR.
I think tate will actually be very effective during his time in college. perhaps this is a bit of a cliche term, but i think tate will epidemize the title of "game manager." He doesnt have the game changing athleticism of a pryor or a vince young, but hes got sufficient arm strength, and exceptional accuracy. this seems to fit perfectly with the RR system: screens, slants, qb rollouts, increased utilizaiton of the TE. I wouldnt expect the Henne to Manningham 40 yard bombs. but I do expect Tate to spread the field well, hit open recievers in stride, and annoy defenses with his elusiveness and ability throw on the run.
With all of that said, I predict DG to redshirt his frosh yr. During his redshirt freshman yr, i think he will get occasional snaps spread out throughout the season + the insignificant minutes (assuming we ever blow somone out). I think his redshirt sophomore yr will start out much the same way, but by the later games I predict he and tate will be splitting snaps, close to fifty-fifty (or 60-40), a la leak and tebow.
|7 years 41 weeks ago||i think your looking at the||
i think your looking at the rich rod approach a little wrong. people have noted that he is able to succeed with less than spectularly rated guys. but that is not to say that RR doesnt prefer the 4-5 star guys. while RR can use a 5'7 electron slot guy in a way that most teams wouldnt, he would still prefer having a 6'0 slot guy with the same type of shiftiness. recently we havent gotten much of the latter, but things could certainly shift in that direction with a few solid seasons under his belt.
|7 years 41 weeks ago||im still very concerned about||
im still very concerned about linebacker. especially if m. robinson stays at linebacker, im not sure how many viable starters are coming out of this class so far. i think people got so caught up in our dline during the 2006 and 2007 seasons that they didnt give due credit to our lbackers. burgess, crable and harris were, to put it mildly, key to our defensive success. and right now, both on the roster and in the 2009 and 2010 recruiting classes, i dont see anyone with that caliber of talent (especially at mlb)
|7 years 41 weeks ago||...and if we can establish a||
...and if we can establish a solid pass game and spread the field, perhaps even a show a downfield threat, it should open things up for a more effective run game.
|7 years 48 weeks ago||I wasnt basing my analysis on||
I wasnt basing my analysis on stonums, or anyone elses, numbers. If you watched stonum play, he wasnt getting seperation on his routes, he wasnt able to get off jams, he failed pretty miserably at blocking, and he dropped a lot of catchable balls. None of those can really be attributed to the poor QB play. Granted he might have done better with more opportunity and more balls well-thrown his way, but at the very least u cannot deny that he is at least unproven, and in my opinion disappointing thus far
|7 years 48 weeks ago||People have said this before,||
People have said this before, but the fact is that our WRs, with the exception of Matthews, are entirely unproven/unreliable. Its easy to get excited about ther potential (a la stonum), but until we see them perform on the field, it really is just potential. If you go down the list, I dont know that we have that much to get excited about YET.
Terrence Robinson hasnt played in game yet.
Roy Roundtree, althou impressive in the spring game, was playing against the michigan 12th string defense.
Gallon has had some nice fluff said about him thus far, but hes still a true freshman.
Savoy is unfortunately not our savior
JeRon Stokes is a true freshman
Hemingway is back and look for him to be our guy.
Martell Webb has gotten some attention over the spring and could contribute some.
Overall there is potential, like I said, but outside of Matthews, Koger, and possibly Hemmingway Im not sure who on that list we can really feel confident about. In order for this to be a successful WR core, someone (be it Hemmingway, Stonum, Stokes, or other) needs to establish themselves as a legit deep threat so that we can open the field for our speedsters. Moreover, said speedsters need to consistently catch the ball cleanly and consistently.
|7 years 48 weeks ago||i think ur forgetting the||
i think ur forgetting the fact that denard had about a 42% pass completion percentage in high school. from what iv heard its not that hard to look good in a 2 minute highlight compilation of your whole career.
|7 years 49 weeks ago||Bottom line is we have a lot||
Bottom line is we have a lot of options this yr at returning. Between Smith, Gallon, Odoms, Toussaint, Matthews, Cissoko, Warren, Turner (im pretty sure he took back kicks in HS), Shaw, Woolfolk, etc., there are some options and im sure theyll all get looks. I have faith that the staff will lend plenty of attention to finding a few adequate players and developing them into smart and secure returners
|7 years 49 weeks ago||Well if u ask me sam mcguffie||
Well if u ask me sam mcguffie shood be returning punts and kicks... at least then we woodnt have any drops or fumbles
|7 years 49 weeks ago||Come on give the guy a break.||
Come on give the guy a break. Lets treat this thread as a: "Who should get the kick and punt returns?"
And we can consider McFarlin's position to be: not odoms
|7 years 49 weeks ago||does anyone else find it||
does anyone else find it crazy that hes actually recruiting other wide recievers (chris dunkley) to compete against him. gotta love the team player mentality!
|7 years 49 weeks ago||As has been said repeatedly,||
As has been said repeatedly, in all likelihood he is a silent commit; meaning that he has informed RR of his commitment to UM, but has elected to not publicly announce due to the fact that his coach is an assbag (i mean this in the nicest way possible)
|7 years 49 weeks ago||Iv loved everything Iv seen||
Iv loved everything Iv seen and heard about lewan, but i really think he has the least chance of seeing the field of all of the freshman Olineman. He needs to add a considerable amount of bulk, and he is new to football. all of the scouts have said that his cieling is thru the roof, but hes not ther yet. i suspect hell backup in 2010, and hopefully start as a redshirt sophomore; althou if Omameh and Hugye lock up the tackle positions, he may have to wait until hes a junior.
|7 years 49 weeks ago||1. i did mention Oneal. I||
1. i did mention Oneal. I have him slotted at RT. and from everything iv heard bout him, hes more of a marshmellow man than a monster.
|7 years 49 weeks ago||I dont know if that is||
I dont know if that is something they can do midseason tho. I think that is more of a summer practice decision. If ortman gets f'd up in game 1, i dont see them moving someone over with just one week to learn the new position. i think it is more likely that they mean that they will take the best 5 Olineman, and move them around now (a la Schilling). That is why i asked about the possibility of Omameh moving to LT.
I could be wrong tho...so ill leave that up to somone who has played our coached the Oline
|7 years 49 weeks ago||But u have to consider the||
But u have to consider the fact that 2 projected starters are seniors. and schilling could depart if he has a breakout yr (this is a bit overly optimistic). thinking about next yr, u want ur young talent to get some in-game experience so that they can compete for the starting job. i think it really depends on how far away they are. For example, if the coaching staff thinks that Washington could potentially start at RG when Moosman departs, then ther gonna want him to get in some time this season.
|7 years 49 weeks ago||right u r||
right u r
|7 years 50 weeks ago||I think the key is really||
I think the key is really what you said about the quick distribution on the part of the qb in this system. i do think that the bullrush will be a huge problem with a number of our Olineman
However RR focus seems to really be on having our Oline get into the secondary and lay down blocks. Molk was being used very effectively in pull-blocks towards the end of the season.
My concern is that we likely will have a freshman taking the snaps. althou tate seems like a very sharp kid, i have heard things about he, and denard, holding onto the ball a little too long. this will be an issue because it will be hard for smaller lineman to hold open the pocket against bigger dlineman. hopefully this can be mitigated by focusing on short quick routes (a lot of screens and slants).
|7 years 50 weeks ago||No doubt brown has got some||
No doubt brown has got some jets, but if our somebody doesnt teach our safeties how to take better tackling angles we are gonna get lit up for long runs all season.
|7 years 51 weeks ago||Cant say much bout his arm||
Cant say much bout his arm strength in the video, but you hafta like how natural and fluid he looked on those screen passes and the passes on the run. He seems to have a very good touch. I just hope he can shock people with his arm strength. although im not sure how many sideline to sideline passes hes going to be making (a la henne). i think well see a lot more roll outs and boot legs that will partially hide any deficits in arm strength
|7 years 51 weeks ago||would you rather we wait till||
would you rather we wait till ther 21/22 and heading out of college
|7 years 51 weeks ago||ummm fail||
|8 years 8 hours ago||I generally agree with the||
i generally agree with your order, accept i would drop down qb a few spots to either 6th or 7th. I realize that depth at qb is currently a huge issue, but with dRob coming in the summer, and assuming gardner stays committed, i think we have greater depth issues at cb and DE. and just a flat out lack of skill at safety, assuming turner is a cb. so i would probably switch safety and cb.
and now that im thinking bout it, DT and LB are prob even in my book. DT has an extremely scary lack of depth, but we have at least a solid group of starters (assuming our DE recruits and Campbell reach ther expected potential). At LB, like safety, im more concerned about a lack of skill than a lack of depth.
|8 years 1 week ago||I tend to agree that we need||
I tend to agree that we need 3-4 yr kids to build up the program. However you could argue that having kids like mayo come to UM and then succeed in the NBA might be attractive to potential recruits. Althou im not sure you could attribute those kids' successes to college development.
|8 years 1 week ago||tru story on the defender||
tru story on the defender comment. however grady's 36.6%3pt is the 3rd best on the team behind eric puls's 75% (which doesnt really count) and david merrit's 38.2%. Just for reference, 4th place is douglass with 35% and 5th is LLP with 34.8%. And considering Merrit only has 34 3pt attempts to Grady's 82, I would consider Grady our best 3pt shooter. (mabe give the slight edge to douglass since hes taken 143 3pt attempts.)
|8 years 1 week ago||thanks good stuff||
thanks good stuff
|8 years 1 week ago||I usually keep pretty up to||
I usually keep pretty up to date on my recruiting info and my blog reading, but i was away for the week on vacation and was too busy getting my tan on.
And my concern was obviously not his height blue(x3) so dont be an ass. I also was not degrading his skill based on a lack of reviews, i was merely asking if anyone had any further info on the guy, b/c the sites dont have much. My concern was with his lack of weight. Of course he has the height to add lbs, but putting on the 40 or so lbs that it would likely take to compete, and maitaining speed, is not exactly an easy task in a yr and a half. For this reason i expect hell redshirt.
But to re-state my earlier question:
do you guys think that we are intentionally looking to recruit smaller, quicker DEs like roh and kinard, or is that just the way things are working out? This seems extremely different from the mentality under the Carr staff who seemed to go for the big guys at all the dline positions.
|8 years 1 week ago||http://michigan.rivals.com/co|
|8 years 2 weeks ago||On a player that stood out in||
On a player that stood out in winter conditioning:
"There have been a lot of them. It's really hard to pin it down to just one. The upperclassmen that have been doing it for years – the Brandon Grahams and Stevie Browns, are doing a tremendous job, Steve Schilling. Our young guys, Michael Cox is a young freshman that did a terrific job in the offseason. Mike Martin has done a tremendous job."
Im sry...did u say "stevie browns"? as if hes the model of what a safety should be? i mean, i wasnt one of those guys declaring him the death of michigan football, but if hes the one getting specific recognition...
|8 years 2 weeks ago||Obviously hes not ideal for||
Obviously hes not ideal for our system. but with two unproven freshman competing for the starting job, (even with potential big time 2010 qb recruit in Gardner, i dont think M would turn away a solid, experienced qb, even if he is a pro-style qb.
|8 years 4 weeks ago||I was just watching godfreys||
I was just watching godfreys youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26TfWOLRfhw
Theres no question hes got a strong arm. He throws this one ball off of one foot, while scrambling that goes about 60 yards and hits the reciever nearly in stride. but they show a lot of clips of him over throwing recievers down field by significant margins. obviously its hard to know whether its a shitty video or whether that is a common occurrence for godfrey.
nonetheless i love his potential, but i hope accuracy is not a major weakness for him b/c weve all seen the effects of qb's missing open recievers.
|8 years 4 weeks ago||Do we know anything about||
Do we know anything about darryl baldwin? is an an OSU lock. I know he visited us for the Wisco game.
|8 years 5 weeks ago||unfortunately BC (one of||
unfortunately BC (one of those bubble teams) upset Duke a few days ago, which definitely makes things harder for us
|8 years 5 weeks ago||how do u no this kid wont end||
how do u no this kid wont end up being 5'6 135lbs and run a 5.3 40. i dont care how good his arm is RR wont give him 2 looks
|8 years 6 weeks ago||I didnt say that i didnt like||
I didnt say that i didnt like converting safeties, i just said that i thought that a lot of people were overly confident in that our safety recruits (who were not that highly rated to begin with) will turn into starter-quality LBs.
|8 years 6 weeks ago||Im glad to hear im not alone||
Im glad to hear im not alone on this. but as for the safeties were looking to convert to LB, none of them were especially high rated safeties in the first place. i dont no y everyone is so confident in their abilities to play a completely different position. granted mouton was a converted safety and performed ok, he was also i believe the 6th ranked safety by scout, while mike jones is the 49th, and isaiah bell was the 46th (althou I believe he is significantly underrated)
|8 years 6 weeks ago||novak has the same problem. a||
novak has the same problem. a good, consistent shooter lands almost precisely where left the ground. but the two of them constantly land several feet behind, or to the side of, where they took off from.
|8 years 6 weeks ago||shot selection is something||
shot selection is something that needs immediate attention. novak needs to stop fading away on his 3 pointers. when he shoots in rythym he hits his shots. but he constantly ends up taking these quick catch and release 3 pointers where he jumps, and lands 3 feet in back of, or to the side of, where he took off. A good, consistent, shooter lands precisely where he jumped from. You can not be consistent when your falling out of your shot.
Also manny needs to stop taking shots just for the sake of taking them. its one thing wen the shot clock is expiring, but he was clearly just taking contested shots b/c he was frustrated by the tight man defense. As far as im concerned, if manny went 1 for 3 from the field, with 7 rebounds, 4 assists, and 1 steal thats a solid game. if the shot isnt there, he doesnt need to take it. last night he was not seeing open looks, so he shood have just faced facts, excepted that he wasnt gonna score a lot, and looked to create for his team.
finally, sims is not a 3 point shooter. anyone who watched him play yesterday knows that the strength of sims game is in the mid to low post. hes got some great skill both facing up and with his back to the basket. but when he settles for the 3 point shot, all hes doing his hurting himself. yesterday was a prime example. he went 9 of 14 from the field. of course a great game by any standards. but remove his 3pt attempts, of which he went 0 for 3, and you have a spectacular 9 for 11 showing. it seems like every game sims goes 0 for 3 from 3pt range. its just not worth it.
|8 years 6 weeks ago||there are two reasons for our||
there are two reasons for our struggles:
1. we dont rebound
2. were centered around the 3 point shot, but we dont hit consistently.
There are games wer we go 18 for 34 from 3. But then there are games like tonight wer we shoot 3 for 20. And that statistic alone will decide the outcome of the game. We can compete with any team when we are knocking down the three. But when we are as cold as we wer tonight, we can also lose to any team
|8 years 6 weeks ago||interesting that we went from||
ironic that we had a four star, and the number 1 rated, fullback in the country, Vince Helmuth, ride the bench for two years, and were gonna see a walk on get a chance to play.
I realize that moundros was our most effective run blocker, but i still would have liked to see helmuth get a chance to run the ball and give us a powerback aspect to our offense. o well
|8 years 6 weeks ago||boeckman was easily the||
boeckman was easily the better of the two quarterbacks...he lead his team to a national championship! If pryor was pre-hyped as being the next coming of vince young, boeckman would have, and should have, been the starter, and OSU would have had a more impressive year.
|8 years 6 weeks ago||Well hes def a good returner.||
Well hes def a good returner. I can def see him in the running for punt returner. Based on the tape hes got some pretty good hands for a DB which is always a plus. But the film really doesnt give me the impression that he is a very sure tackler. He tends to dive in with his arms and trip players up, rather than rap up.
|8 years 7 weeks ago||We recently gave an offer to||
We recently gave an offer to 2010 recruit Tailer Jones from Gainesville FL. Id love to grab a kid out of the UF backyard. Although hes also got offers from Alabama, OSU, South Carolina, UNC, Miami, Mississippi, etc. So its a long shot, but it makes me smile on the inside to think about
|8 years 7 weeks ago||itll be interesting to see if||
itll be interesting to see if he can add the weight and maintain his athleticism. as of now hes still really long and lean. hes gonna need to put on a good 30 lbs to hold his own. Right now hes listed as 6'7 270. thats not a lot for such a tall guy
|8 years 7 weeks ago||So he didnt play well at the||
So he didnt play well at the beginning of the season wen he was healthy, and he didnt play well at the end after gaining a seasons worth of experience.
So what has he done exactly to earn another year starting. If he cant do wut he was brought here to do, and that is pass the ball effectively, then what exactly is he offering us.
He had all of last winter, summer, and the season to improve his mechanics but obviously coodnt do so. all of the in-game experience in the world is not gonna help if he cant hit open recievers. so wut does he have over forcier and robinson.
P.S. the fact that he played hurt does earn him any brownie points in my book. If hes not the better QB come game 1, id bench him without thinking twice about it.
|8 years 7 weeks ago||Teaching the wideouts to||
Teaching the wideouts to block is huge as far as im concerned. if were gonna keep running the screens, we need the wideouts to get a body on some one to give the reciever some time.
tackling has definitly been our most consistent weakness over the past 4 yrs. even during out 2006 campaign, when our defense was allowing 20 yard rushing per game, we still missed a lot of open field tackles, especially the DBs. and i noticed a lot this yr that we were allowing a lot of yards after contact. consistently we would allow teams to get the first down after initial contact was made two yards short of the marker.
stop allowing conversions on 3rd and 18!!! i honestly think we would have been better off intentionally committing encrouchment penalties to shorten the first down yardage so that we could have treated it like a normal 3rd down.
we should also try teaching the safeties wut their damn assignments are. im tired of watching safeties offer no help to the corners because their too busy getting pants by the opposing qb using a pump fake or running play action
|8 years 7 weeks ago||Accuracy...thats all i have||
Accuracy...thats all i have to say. threet came into college known as a pocket passer, and he failed miserably at that. even when protection was good towards the end of the season, he failed to hit open recievers down field, and he was absolutely incapable of hitting players in stride on the screen pass. he just coodnt get it done, and i really dont think any amount of experience will help him in these two facets. he offers very little in terms of speed and athleticism, so im really not sure what the upside is here.
tate forcier was rated by rivals as being the #1 QB in terms of accuracy. that alone is enough to tell me that hes the guy i want in. because nothing hurts my heart more than to see wide open recievers get overthrown by 15 feet (see massey's missed TD). in addition, forcier offers infinitely greater athletic ability, which will help him keep plays alive wen protection breaks down (watching his tapes, you have to love the way forcier's eyes stay fixed down field while hes scrambling to elude a rusher). Plus the potential to qb sneak gives our offense an additional weapon that defenses will have to protect against.. and as far as experience goes, forcier ran a spread offense in high school. it is also important to remember that forcier ran a spread offense in high school, which means he should be quick to pick up the RR system.
finally denard robinson was noted by Rich Rod as being one of the fastest kids in the class. plus hes got a live arm, which means he wont just be the latest version of the justin feagin offense (dont even bother covering the pass wen hes behind center). weve all seen wut type of production rich rod can get out of these type of athletes at QB.
bottom line, expect threet will start game 1, but i expect hell be splitting snaps by the 2nd half of that very first game.
|8 years 8 weeks ago||yea thats how i pretty much||
yea thats how i pretty much took it. i like the fact that RR isnt wasting any time with focusing on our priorities for 2010
|8 years 8 weeks ago||I almost dont wanna watch. if||
I almost dont wanna watch. if we shoot 5 for 32 from 3 point range, or anything similar to that, im gonna kill myself
|8 years 8 weeks ago||The problem with adding teams||
The problem with adding teams to a conference is that you get more rotating of scheduled in conference opponents. Note how we dont play iowa or indiana or illinois every year in football. When u play teams on a less consistent basis, it dimishes the feeling of the rivalry, in my opinion.
|8 years 8 weeks ago||I agree that we neither have||
I agree that we neither have a superstar LB on the field, bench, or recruiting class. LB was a huge weakness for us this yr, and i dont think we did much of anything to mend out problems, now or future. We did lose our worst starting linebacker, in Thompson, but the fact that he did start says a lot about the talent behind him. We havent seen much of fitzgerald, demens, marrell, or any of his backups, so im not sure how confident i am in our LB core moving forward. Mouton did seem to make some progress as the season went on, but hes still a liability in the passing game. As is obi ezeh, who in my opinion had a very disappointing season, despite getting a lot of tackles, after a promising freshman yr.
I do like the idea of having faster, smaller OLBs (converted safeties) to better cover the spread. But I expect growing pains, as added pressure will be on the LBs with a very young Dline in front of them.
Although I do have to point out for the record, Mouton was a convertd safety, rated much higher as such than jones or bell, and that worked out kinda meh. Its a big change for a lot of safeties that are more used to playing the ball in front of them or in deep patterns, than trying to break up slant routes while simultaneously paying close attention to the run. The big question is whether they can add the weight and maintain their speed.
|8 years 9 weeks ago||I just dont no...Believe me,||
I just dont no...Believe me, i was a brown supporter, or at least a defender, throughout the early part of the yr. I think we all have seen that he does have some potential. but im just not sure how many times we can forgive his costly mistakes. He had the ol'reliable lack of in-game experience excuse coming into the 2008 season, but 12 games later and hes still making the same mistakes. And keep in mind this is not a true freshman. Hes had two yrs to learn his position on the practice field, and not a full season to work things out.
I do suspect that he will be given his shot next yr; hell more than likely begin the season as a starter. But sooner or later hes gonna hafta prove he can be consistent, or he wont be getting any defense from me anymore.
|8 years 9 weeks ago||Am i the only one who always||
Am i the only one who always thought that trent was a big piece of poo. If i was a reciever, I wood want to be covered by trent. Despite the fact that hes the fastest kid on the team, trent gives his recievers 10 yards of cushion at all times, b/c hes afraid of getting burned. Iv never seen a corner give up so many 8-10 yard uncontested completions in my entire life. Thats real terrific for trying to stop a 3rd and 8. Hes also an extremely unreliable tackler, much like the rest of our defense. I cant for the life of me figur out y anyone wood think that he is a good cornerback. If i were a db's coach, i wood convert trent to safety, that way he can keep the plays in front of him and give his cusion, without leaving a reciever wide open.
|8 years 9 weeks ago||moundros was never really a||
moundros was never really a running fullback. helmuth was recruited as a running, shortyardage fullback, but obviously hes getting converted to dline this yr.
|8 years 10 weeks ago||He clearly likes press||
He clearly likes press coverage, and i must admit i am a fan (i coodnt stand watching morgan trent give up those easy 8 yard completions). I dont no wut type of speed he has, but it will be interesting to see if he can maintain press coverage and not get burned by the speedsters.
But he looked like he had good technique, a good backpedal, and was strong at covering the slant routes.
|8 years 10 weeks ago||I dont necessarily think hart||
I dont necessarily think hart is the best running back in UM history, but i think his ypc is skewed b/c hart was not a homerun type runner. He didnt have those 60 yard runs the jack up his avg., but theres not doubt that he had consistency and reliability with the football. and those two things are pretty priceless when a team runs the ball as often as we did. he rarely got brought down on first contact, rarely got tackled for a loss, and rarely dropped the football.
|8 years 10 weeks ago||btw, scout has Lalota rated||
btw, scout has Lalota rated as a 5-star (#4) OT in the recruiting class
|8 years 10 weeks ago||i agree with ish as well.||
i agree with ish as well. when people talk about team speed, especially on defense, there mainly referring to the linebackers and de's. having speed at those positions allows the defense to cover the entire width of the field. teams like osu and usc have fast linebackers that can cover the stretch plays and run down rb's and qbs to the sidelines.
while we are grabbing some fast kids, they all seem to be in a single position, slot reciever. and ur rarely gonna see more than 1 of those guys on the field at the same time. even if we did have the fastest 40m kids in the country, its not really a valuable achievment if they arent contributing.
|8 years 11 weeks ago||i think its time for RR to||
i think its time for RR to whip out the bottle of snake oil. he seems like a perfect fit for our offense. from wut iv seen, i think hed go straight to the top of our long list of slot recievers
|8 years 11 weeks ago||i think that barwis and||
i think that barwis and playing time are the most attractive things we have right now. you can say legacy but thats just wut people are saying now that we blow.
just look at wut barwis has done to graham and minor. in an interview earlier in the yr we herd bout how graham got insanely stronger in a short period of time after working with barwis. and thats not coming from a kid fresh out of hs. thats coming from a kid who had already been at UM for two years.
minor added some much needed speed and agility, and got stronger as well. he went from a backup rb to a definite nfl prospect. look out for minor to be Big10 rb of the yr.
|8 years 11 weeks ago||i think clearly the biggest||
i think clearly the biggest area of need is LB. great defenses have great LB's. USC, PSU, OSU. Look at the michigan defense of 06. everyone pointed out how great the Dline was, but burgess, harris, and crable were every bit as important as branch and woodley.
we do not have that stud LB that weve had over the past few years. in my opinion jelani jenkins shood have been priority #2 in this recruiting class, behind some form of throwing person.
|8 years 11 weeks ago||I def think that it attracts||
I def think that it attracts recruits b/c they see strength and conditioning coaches as keys to getting them to the highest level of play and possibly to the next level, which to many is more important than winning.
as for weeding out the lazy kids, im not so sure it does that to a large degree. i dont think any kid wood admit, even to himself, that he wood turn away from an offer, and an opportunity with one of the best s&c coaches in the country, bc they dont wanna work that hard. and from everything that iv read, will campbell is not a huge fan of overexertion, at least not at the hs level.
|8 years 11 weeks ago||Has anyone found a streaming||
Has anyone found a streaming video of the game. i cant find one anywer
|8 years 12 weeks ago||I def agree that we cood use||
I def agree that we cood use a game changing shot blocker to give some help defense wen the D breaks down and the ball gets into the post.
|8 years 12 weeks ago||I understand the theory||
I understand the theory behind the 1-3-1 but the numbers say everything. Its easy to say "wait and things will improve wen belien gets his guys in". But the fact is that belien has never had a terrific defensive team. y does he continue to insist on using a 1-3-1 formation that has never had success, even during his strong years at WV.
|8 years 12 weeks ago||better yet...wut are the||
better yet...wut are the chances of us taking a quality db recruit and developing him into a quality db that actually meets his potential (unlike trent, warren to this point, and almost every safety weve ever had)
|8 years 13 weeks ago||anybody have a url with||
anybody have a url with streaming video of tonights game? unfortunately i dont get b10 network at home.
|8 years 13 weeks ago||With that offer sheet and||
With that offer sheet and those measureables, i feel like hes worth the risk. even if he redshirts, and spends two years buried in the depth chart, that still leaves him with two more yrs of eligibility to compete for a starting position. he has the size to be a beast of a left tackle.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||tajh boyd is highly rated by||
tajh boyd is highly rated by scouts rivals and espn and he has the offer sheet to match (osu, psu, louisville, florida state, bc, oregon, WV, Wake Forest, VT)
denard robinson is a highly ranked athlete who is generally projected as a reciever/corner, but is stated to have a very live arm. most note his height (5'11) as the reason he will likely not be qb at the next level. his offer sheet is also perhaps even more impressive (auburn, florida, georgia, miami, osu, wv, ucf) but most have offered him as an athlete. the real problem i see here, is that most sites have noted his decision making skills as a weakness, and that is a big concern wen running a spread option offense.
eugene smith is currently committed to WV, but that has never stopped us before. he had strong interest in michigan for a long time and is also highly rated across the board. his offer sheet includes (alabama, florida, clemson, florida state, louisville, miami, oregon, UM). mabe its time to unleash the snakeoil
tyrik rollison (texas) and raymond cotton (maryland) are also two relatively well ranked duel threats that are currently uncommitted and live in states that are somewhat on UMs radar. i havent herd anything about interest in either direction, any chance we take a look in ther ways.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||i think a lot of it has to do||
i think a lot of it has to do with the improving depth charts. wen the recruiting class started, the depth chart was pretty week at a lot of positions: qb, wr, ol, dl, db's.
its not farfetched to think that a big reason y many of the early commits picked michigan was because they thought they had an easy road to the starting lineup. as the depth chart begins to fill with recruits, many of them might not want to risk losing out in competition.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||Do these guys not look at||
Do these guys not look at depth charts. There is a pretty gaping hole at DE this upcomign season for UM. Lalota and Roh are shoe-ins for redshirts, and Van Bergen is about as unestablished as an incoming player could wish for.
How many years of eligibility does McPhee have left? I believe its two right?
If he goes to Florida, hes competing with a lot of young talent at DE
|8 years 14 weeks ago||It being on fox sports||
It being on fox sports detroit would help if i didnt live in NJ.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||U may be able to make an||
U may be able to make an argument for the formation, but certainly not for the formation fitting our current personelle. The 3-3-5 takes pressure off the quarterback and gives him more time to find an open reciever. granted we have an extra safety in coverage, it still demands a lot of the db's and lb's.
It wasnt just the purdue game wer the 3-3-5 showed up, it was also on a lot of 3rd and longs, many of which were converted.
The reason that implementing it this past season was such a bad decision, is that our strength was in our dline and our pass rush, certainly not in our coverage. our corners underachieved and our safeties all looked lost. not to mention our lb's strengths are in run support, not in pass coverage.
so we gave quarterbacks all day to find recievers, and given the time, most recievers were able to break coverage.
the system demands fast lb's that are good in coverage, and safeties that are quick to diagnose the run.
given our personelle this past season, that was certainly not us.
i strongly prefer the 4-2-5 against spread offenses. that gives us more speed in the backfield than a traditional 4-3, and still puts pressure on the qb. that type of formation puts a lot of pressure on the lb's tho. it might be a good formation to utilize our converted safeties (mike jones, isaiah bell) who are a bit quicker and more geered towards pass protection.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||the 3-3-5 is certainly not a||
the 3-3-5 is certainly not a run defense. the 4th man the would normally be on the line in a 4-3 is not dropped back to lb, hes dropped back to safety. soo yes it may stop beanie from taking it to the house, but its also gonna make it easier to get into the secondary and go against our safeties, who cant tackle a guy on crutches.
if u want an extra lb u go to a 3-4.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||Is Chris Freeman still||
Is Chris Freeman still looking at michigan. I realize hes only 3 stars, but hes also gimassive and is pretty new to football. from wut iv read hes a project but his upside is huge.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||jeez wut a tease||
jeez wut a tease
|8 years 14 weeks ago||am i the only one who saw||
am i the only one who saw relative success with using the situational 4-2-5. I personally prefer it to the 3-3-5 because it gets a bit more pressure on the qb, and still has a lot of db's in coverage. the important thing wen u have two lb's tho is that they are fast. I think that the converted safeties (mike jones or isaiah bell) might be an asset in this type of formation because they can cover a bit more ground than thomason could and ezeh can, and hopefully hold coverage longer. althou mouton was a converted safety and his pass coverage skills are meh.
|8 years 14 weeks ago||Olineman, as has been said||
Olineman, as has been said before, is the hardest position to predict. So as far as im concerned, the more high end OL recruits, the better. lombard would be a huge pick up for us.
|8 years 15 weeks ago||Last I heard Helmuth was||
Last I heard Helmuth was playing DE on the practice team towards the end of the season. Although they might have moved him to DT for the 2009 yr due to lack of depth.
|8 years 15 weeks ago||I like to see the bball team||
I like to see the bball team gettin some love lately. I think people need to stop worryin bout gettin in the rankings and just worry bout us winning games. We have four games coming up that are must-wins as far as im concerned. But there certainly not guaranteed. I do seem to recall a team that beat Duke and UCLA, have a near loss to Savannah St. I expect that if we do win the next 4, and move to 10-2 overall, we would likely crack to top 25.
As good as we played against Duke, we need to work on the little things that can help improve our consistency, so we dont have anymore scares against bad teams. Rebounding and minimizing turnovers are the two things that stand out to me as areas of needed improvement. The potential is definitively there, but on a night wen the threes arent falling (which is inevitable), its going to come down to the tough rebounding and ball security.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||is that a joke...||
is that a joke...
|8 years 16 weeks ago||iverson was Virginia AAA||
iverson was Virginia AAA Football Player of the Year in 1992.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||allan iverson was a qb in his||
allan iverson was a qb in his high school, and led his team to a virginia state championship
|8 years 16 weeks ago||i dont see wut wood drive||
i dont see wut wood drive somone to say hed make a good tight end. we know nothing about his tackling ability, we know nothing about his leg strenght, we know nothing about his shedding technique. 6'8 wood prob make him the tallest DE iv ever heard of. all we know his hes fast and has great upper body strength.
however at hybrid TE, we know hes got all the necessary skills: fast, tall, good agility, high leaper, good hands, good upper body strength.
the reason i say hybrid is b/c we have no idea if he can block at all.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||aright u obviously didnt read||
aright u obviously didnt read carefully so...weeks 10 - 14 is a new bracket (BCS Tourney) made up of the winners from the in-conference tournaments that took place during weeks 7-9.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||If you would have read week||
If you would have read week 10 ud understand. seeds 1-6 get byes. meanwhile seed 7 plays 10 and 8 plays 9, in order to eliminate 2 teams and have an 8 team bracket. that gives a pretty big advantage to the teams that faced harder competition in their in-conference brackets.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||i think hed be a dominant||
i think hed be a dominant hybrid tight end
|8 years 16 weeks ago||There are 10 conferences with||
There are 10 conferences with 12 teams per conference
In-Conference Tournaments: Weeks 7-9
Seeds 9-12 are placed in a losers bracket (no shot at bcs bowl games).
BCS Tournament: Weeks 10-14
Other BCS bowls can be the consulation games for the teams eliminated from the final BCS bracket of 10.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||Was OSU a top two team over||
Was OSU a top two team over the past two seasons...hells no (and thats prob y they got blown out in the national championship.) would they have been in the national championship games if they had played in a 6 team tourney against the top 6 ranked teams in the bcs...hells no. Am I convinced that LSU was the best team in college football last yr...im leaning towards hells no (prob georgia).
whether or not you think a 6/8 team playoff is more accurate than a 160+ game baseball season is a rediculously irrelavent argument...clearly the edge goes to the playoff (sarcasm). but there is no doubt in my mind that selections of national championship contenders would be far more justified after having gone through a regular season of mixed opponenets, and two weeks of heavy competition, than had they simply been picked by a computer following the regular season.
if the bcs rankings were perfectly accurate, there would be no need to play a national championship at all because we wood already know who is better.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||except for the fact that a 12||
except for the fact that a 12 game season, based majorly on inconference games is not a telling sample. and wut exactly are you basing your judgement on about the giants and pats. they played head to head, and the giants won. to me thats far more telling than how the two teams did against different competition.
to be honest i dont even think they should play a national championship. b/c that might produce a team that isnt the best. i think they should just crown the top 2 teams as per bcs rankings to be co-champions and hope that one of them actually is the best team.
based on your logic, the national champion is just the team that performs better in that particular game, and not truely the best.
id rather see a team be deemed champion after theyve performed against elite competition and succeeded for 3 weeks straight, than play one game against what some computer decides is a top two team.
|8 years 16 weeks ago||So let me get this||
So let me get this straight... you think that the regular season alone is more accurately telling as to which teams are the top two, and therefore deserving to play for that national championship, than the regular season plus 3 weeks of head to head play against elite competition.
Consider that in order to take part in the national championship as is, or in a 6 team playoff, you need to have succeeded in the regular season to some degree. however, a playoff system would alleviate the controversy over who deserves to be in the national championship that is created by the fact that teams have identical records, share no opponents, or may have had a week of devastating injuries.
Notice that George Mason did not win the national championship and all is still right in the world. However, there is no law of the universe that makes it a natural impossibility for a george mason to be the best team in college basketball. luckily there is a playoff system that gives teams such as g.mason an opportunity to prove themselves against real competition.
do you honestly believe that utah is a better team than texas tech. do you thiink that cincinatti is better than oklahoma state and georgia. there are clear flaws in the bcs rating system. it is impossible to compare a team from the big east to a team in the big 12 because they dont share opponenets (for the most part), so why attempt it. I realize that even a playoff system would involve rankings, but at least it minimizes the chances of error. i would like to think that the best team in football is currently ranked somewhere in the top 6. althou i personally am not sure that they are rated in the top 2.
ps. the top ranked team going into the march madness tournament almost never wins the national championship.
|8 years 17 weeks ago||GoBlue00 are u serious with||
GoBlue00 are u serious with the Obi comment? How could u possibly even begin to suggest the possibility of him being a top linebacker? do u watch the games or just look at the tackle numbers? He was absolutely horrible this yr, after showing good potential in 2007. Huge disappointment. i think hes lucky we dont have any other tru mlb's on the depth chart, otherwise hed have to fight for his spot.
as for the db's, i think trent is garbage and im glad to see him go. the biggest hurt will come from the departure of harrison, who was prob our only decent saftey this yr. im just hoping that mike williams can step in and perform. and brandon smith will be seeing the field for the first time (yes!!! love inexperience).
|8 years 17 weeks ago||mabe the concussions will be||
mabe the concussions will be incentive for him to ask somone to teach him how to run like a person that doesnt wanna be decapitated. Wen he was returning the kick he was running completely upright. Right before it happened, my friend said "watch him get laid out" and wut do you know, he took a vicious hit.
the kid has got speed, but he runs into dangerous situations and doesnt protect himself by running behind his pads.
|8 years 17 weeks ago||Well manningham left early||
Well manningham left early and went 3rd round. Arrington went early and went 4 or 5th round i think, so i dont no wut ur basing that on.
|8 years 17 weeks ago||Players arent gonna say ther||
Players arent gonna say ther goin to the nfl mid-season. I can appreciate your optimism, but i dont think that you can really get a good read on that situation until after the season ends. Im sure well hear some rumblings over the next few weeks.
As much as Id like him to stay, I think it would not be smart on his part to return. Hed be risking injury to gain very little (other than a college degree). He put up some monster numbers this yr, certainly good enough to be drafted in the first three rounds. Next yr he will be facing double teams on every play, so I woodnt expect his numbers to improve.
Iv been told that next yr's group of nfl-bound players has a lot fewer D-lineman so grahams draft stock could be greater next yr. Althou a lot have expected graham to be converted to a linebacker in a 3-4 defense (similar to woodley) so that may not even help.
|8 years 17 weeks ago||I just hope that we see some||
I just hope that we see some big 2010 O-lineman recruits. I realize that Oline is prob the hardest position to predict (see Schilling) but that only tells me that we need to recruit a lot of them at high ratings. If being a Giants fan has taught me anything, its that a great Oline is the most important thing to a successful offense, and it can make any quarterback (even Eli Manning whose a big peice of poop), non-manningham reciever, and runningback look good.
|8 years 18 weeks ago||Incredible game! Belien seems||
Incredible game! Belien seems to have UCLA's number. Althou im still a bit sceptical of the Belien scheme. I tend to feel that being a team that lives and dies by the three is a risky business. Granted the college 3 is a few feet shorter than the pros, but even a good 3 point shooting team can go cold...and based on last yrs numbers were not a good 3 point shooting team. I just dont know what consistency we can have shooting that many threes. Althou its hard to argue with the history that his teams have had.
However the defense blows my mind. I like the idea of the 1-3-1: getting in the passing lanes and forcing turnovers. But y does the pg have to be the player under the hoop. Hes nothing be a liability if the ball gets into the post, not to mention on rebounds. Wouldnt it make more sense to have at least a forward under the basket so that he can attempt to defend the opposing center wen he gets down low. Mabe then we woodnt be the worst rebounding team in the big 10. And Beliens teams have never been great defensivly, so y doesnt he look to change things around.
Belein has done a pretty good job recruiting all things considered. As the program begins to creep back up the ranks, we should see the recruiting improve exponentially. Who needs football (im not at all serious)
|8 years 18 weeks ago||Why are we all assuming that||
Why are we all assuming that our defensive backfield will be any better. Ezeh has been a huge disappointment and Mouton, althou improving in run support, is still a huge liability in the pass game. Everyone seems to be assuming that our third lb, either demens or fitzgerald will step in and be money. Note that they will both be seeing the field for the first time in there college careers, and weve seen first hand the problems of inexperience.
Im not a fan of morgan trent at all because i think he allowed way too many easy receptions due to giving up big cusions in order to prevent the deep ball. However, he did bring experience to the backfield. And even tho cissoko has showed promise, he also got beat a few times in coverage, and iv seen him get plowed over by recievers when trying to jam or wen trying to help in run support.
Also harrison was far and away our best reciever so him leaving could def hurt. Charles Stewart has been nothing but an achilles heal all year, so losing him I don't believe will be a huge loss.
That leaves us with Stevie brown as a near def starter. He has shown glimpses of potential, but for the most part has been a huge liability as well. Correct me if im wrong, but I beleive that brandon smith saw the field this year on special teams. That means that he burned his redshirt yr and was eligible to play, but still didnt get any reps at safety. that means that somone thought that Charles Stewart and Stevie Brown were better than him.
Donovan Warren was a huge disappointment in my eyes. I really expected a break out year after a great freshman season, but he was abused time and time again; althou partially b/c of poor safety help.
Mike Williams saw the field some, but its hard to get a true read on his potential. Hes seemed pretty decent so far.
There is also the potential of Isaiah Bell, Mike Jones, Justin Turner to step in and get some playing time. I havent heard much of JT Floyd but he redshirted this yr as well.
I change of personelle immediately sounds like a great thing, but Im not so sure that we should be so quick to assume that the lb's and db's will improve. I guess you can judge for yourself, I expect the backfield depth chart to look like this:
SLB - 1. Fitzgerald
MLB - 1. Ezeh
WLB - 1. Mouton
CB - 1. Cissoko
FS - 1. Stevie Brown
SS - 1. Mike Williams
CB - D. Warren
|8 years 19 weeks ago||Joeyb i think ur being a bit||
Joeyb i think ur being a bit optmistic in several regards. I have read the speculation as to Grahams return, but i just dont see it. He put up serious numbers this years, and next yr he wood be facing non-stop double teams, so his numbers would likely suffer. But anyway, even if Graham is returning, that doesnt make our Dline better than this yr. It just means that were losing less.
And if weve learned anything from the 2007/2008 seasons, its that no games are guaranteed. Not MAC games, not D1 AA, not OOC, and certainly not games against ND, Mich State, or any other big10 opponent.
As for the freshman, Forcier has a great arm in terms of accuracy and is far more mobile than threet and sheridan, but he doesnt have the speed of Feagins. Beaver might have that type of speed, but he doesnt have a tremendous arm. Plus the fact that both are as inexperienced as Threet and Sheridan were coming into the season.
Lets be realistic for now so we dont all end up getting our hearts broken again. 6-0 to start the season is certainly possible, but stating it as a liklihood is a bit strong.
|8 years 19 weeks ago||Youre right I did forget||
Youre right I did forget about butler. Hes definitely a good athlete, so hopefully he can turn into a legit D1 defensive end. Theres also talk about Helmuth move to defensive end, so well see what happens ther. I hope that ur right in that the defense will improve with a better offense and more rest. And Im suprisingly optimistic about the Oline. I like the depth, even tho we dont have any Longs or Krauss quite yet. But I think we def saw some improvement in the past few games. Both Minor and Feagins broke off long runs because of huge holes created by the Oline. I dont think the line will be spectacular, but hopefully they can be at least reasonable.
|8 years 19 weeks ago||I didnt say anything about||
I didnt say anything about McGuffie's conditioning. But theres not doubt in my mind that McGuffie has a long way to go if he wants to be the starter. The fact that he gets no yards after contact, and is running behind a pitiful line, makes his potential extremely limited. I dont think that at his current status he is a good fit for our offense. Minor has been successful because he is both elusive and can break tackles. I realize that Barwis is a child eating ultimate fighter, but getting McGuffie to pack on the 20-25 lbs that he prob needs to reach his full potential, and maintain his speed, is a lot to ask.
Plus he has a lot of work to do with his technique, which Im pretty stumped as to y it wasnt corrected over the past off season. Anyone who has watched McGuffie run can see that he runs completely straight up and in very straight lines. He is begging to be laid out. Iv watched him get helped off the field several times after big hits, and im not suprised. If the kid wants to have any future, he needs to maintain a lower center of gravity, and run behind his pads.
|8 years 19 weeks ago||Bottom line, Sheridan||
Bottom line, Sheridan managed the game well. He doesnt have the raw skills that a typical D1 QB has, but he made relatively good decisions for an inexperienced QB. He threw the ball away wen appropriate to avoid sacks, he scrabbled effectively and at key times, he didnt miss many wide open recievers, he made good throws on the screen pass, he didnt fumble on any handoffs. Also he made smart throws and put the ball into places where either a michigan reciever would catch it or it would be incomplete. The only true mistake of a throw was that fade route to the corner of the endzone in the first quarter. Overall, what more could you ask of a walk on QB.
If you ask me, threet has not done enough to guarantee himself the starting job wen he comes back from injury. He over throws open recievers down field, he struggles with the screen pass, he makes bad decisions and very dangerous passes. he has fumbled on several handoffs. Being that neither are standout QBs, i think that RR should go with however he thinks can manage the game and minimize turnovers. And even though Sheridan has thrown quite a few Ints, i think several of them had to do with him being put into very desperate situations. I truly do think there is a legitimate debate as to who should start in the remaining two games.
But just to be clear, I see Forcier as our ultimate starter. Id project that either sheridan or threet will start the first game or two of next season, with Forcier playing off the bench, just to get him some game experience. Once he gets comfortable with the game speed, I think he will become the full time starter.
|8 years 20 weeks ago||I strongly agree with you.||
I strongly agree with you. Over the past few weeks, Minor has shown a skill set that far exceeded that of previous years. We watched as he, behind a far superior line, sluggishly ran while looking strictly for contact. This year he has shown the ability to run with improved vision and quickness, allowing him to see and hit the hole. He has been able to turn clear loss of yard situations into gains. In addition he has displayed good acceleration and top speed in the open field, which is something neither he nor hart displayed in years prior.
A lot of his success, I believe must be attributed to Barwis. Although he already had good size as a sophomore, Minor has gained speed without sacrificing power. He is able to hit holes and avoid tacklers in ways that seemed impossible last year. His unique combination of size and speed, I believe, projects him as a possible NFL prospect.
This creates an interesting situation for McGuffie. With Minor running strong, it is likely that McGuffie will see significant time on the bench. I personally would not be mad if McGuffie was redshirted next yr. Although he shows great open field ability and glimpses of brilliance, he is strictly limited by his lack of lower body strength and flaws in technique. For these reasons he has been completely unable to gain yards after the hit, which is something that is necessary to run behind a weak, inexperienced Oline. He runs far too straight up, and is just begging to be layed out. I think a redshirt yr would benefit both UM and McGuffie. The team will gain a yr with McGuffie as the starter, and McGuffie will have time to add some dearly needed size (hopefully 20-25 lbs) so that he can reach his full potential. Either way, I assume Minor will be the starter next yr. I think having Cox and Shaw as his backups is a small sacrifice when weighed against the potential gains.
If they elect not to redshirt McGuffie, expect to see him a lot as a slot reciever. He has been very solid in the pass game thus far. This might give him a better opportunity to get into the open field and make people miss, rather than have him try to get passed the Dline, which he hasnt been consistently been able to do.
|8 years 21 weeks ago||I dont see why having the||
I dont see why having the Dline gone would help pad Grahams stats...its not like anyone else on the line is stealing his sacks by getting there before him. With Taylor and Jaminson gone, hes going to see double teams on every play.
And i didnt forget about butler. Helmuth has requested to move to DE also. But the fact that they are D1 athletes doesnt mean that the will magically turn into D1 caliber defensive ends. Until there names appear on an official depth chart, Im going to assume that they will be banished to special teams.
Im not so sure that many of the current redshirt freshman will take over a starting spot next yr. You have to assume that if this were anticipated, Rich Rod would not have redshirted the players, as to get them some experience, so that they would be able to start in 2009. The fact that they are redshirted says to me that they will likely see limited action in 2009 and perhaps start by the end of the season, or in 2010.
I think the only freshman shoe-ins to takeover starting jobs (that they do not currently hold) will be Martin and Fitzgerald. I hope one of the OT's has proven himself enough to takeover at LT. Maybe Smith will get a shot at safety, but i doubt he starts due to lack of experience.
|8 years 21 weeks ago||Its not easy to predict our||
Its not easy to predict our potential for next yr. Improving our offensive line is the key to turning this team around, whether it be with the current unit or with changes in the depth chart. Minor is a fumble machine which leads me to believe McGuffie will be the starter wen its all said and done. But McGuffie doesnt break tackles and needs a good Oline to spring him past the LOS and into the open field.
Heres the official current depth chart for the Oline:
LT - Dorrestein, Ortman
LG - Ortman, McAvoy
C - Molk, Moosman
RG - Moosman, Ferrera, Barnum
RT - Schilling, Dorrestein
Hate to break it to those of you who havent herd, but Zirbel's injury may be career ending, so lets not start putting him into the starting spot yet..
Dan Oneal and Wermers were both highly recruited, but we really cant know how theyr developing, as both are redshirted.
Schilling will likely stay at starting RT, since he has been our best lineman this yr. Moosman has been solid at RG. Molk has been getting tossed around due to his lack of size. Our depth at center is very limited as far as i no. Perhaps barnum or wermers will be converted to center to backup Molk. The left side of the line has been pretty bad. If there are changes in personelle, this is wer i expect them to happen. Oneal might takeover at LT if he has proven himself in practice. Wermers might takeover LG. Again its hard to say without seeing them play and knowing how theyr developing.
As for the defense, i think the losing Harrison will hurt. He was our best safety without question. Charles Stewart was our achilles heal and i think his replacement (brandon smith, mike williams) will be at least on par with him, if not an improvement. Im a fan of cissoko, as long as the safetys give him help on bigger wideouts, especially in the redzone wer they can take advantage with jump balls. The key to the secondary is improving our tackling. Our safetys have been atrocious at tackling over the past 3 yrs; weve seen countless long runs for td's b/c of missed tackles.
The LB's have been extremely disappointing. Ezeh was named the captain of the defense, but has failed to play like one. Our outside LB's have been eaten alive in coverage. Mouton has gotten better in covering the run, but for a converted safety, he cannot protect against the pass. Im shocked that we havent seen Fitzgerald get any time at LB so far this season. Thats prob not a good sign in terms of his development. Demens is redshirted so who knows. Losing wetherspoon and hill might hurt us here, with our options being very few.
The Dline will look entirely different. I expect Graham to go to the NFL. Hes putting up big numbers, and would likely get non-stop double teams next yr with all of the losses across the line. That said, i expect the line to be:
DE - Van Bergen
DT - Martin
DT - ? Campbell plzzzz
DE - Patterson, Banks
Im hoping the DE's are good enough to allow Lalota and Roh to redshirt. Roh is only 230 lbs and needs a yr to put on size. Lalota is very raw and new to football and needs the yr to develope.
Overall, our defense has been a huge disappointment this season. It seems like were allowing 500+ yards per game. I think the only thing saving us is Mesko laying down some sick punts. Our DLine was supposed to be dominant, but other than graham, theyve been neutralized by quick passing. The LB's and Safeties hopefully will improve with some experience. Pray that Warren returns to good form next yr, and that our DB's coach teaches his kids to tackle.
My guess would be a 6-6 record. Bottom line, until the Oline improves, we will not win games. McGuffie needs open field, and Threet/Forcier needs time to find open recieves.
|8 years 22 weeks ago||Even though graham hasnt||
Even though graham hasnt expressed his plans publicly, I doubt hell be back for several reasons:
1. Hes putting up very strong numbers this year and is a shoe in to get drafted.
2. With losses at the Dline next yr, he is going to see a lot more double teams.
3. With the team struggling, the risk of injury likely outweighs the potential for winning a big ten title.
4. Hes not in a Henne/Hart/Long type situation where all make a group decision to stick around for a final year.
He was sited as mentioning something along the lines of: Jamison has had more time to learn schemes and therefore is more nfl ready. But i think the only thing that could really keep graham from advancing would be a desire to work with barwis for another yr. His gains in strength and speed over the past 9 months have been staggering considering he was already a second semester sophomore by the time barwis stepped in.
|8 years 22 weeks ago||Your right in that I mispoke||
Your right in that I mispoke when I said Fitzgerald was the only 4 star LB recruit, but he is the only one left. Demens was a 3/4 star recruit depending on which site you give more weight to. Rivals has him as a 4 star and the 23 ranked OLB. Scouts has him as a 3 star and the 23 ranked weakside LB. I tend to give more weight to rivals, so ill give you that one. But im not entirely optimistic of the chances that either demens or fitzgerald develops into a harris, burgess, or crable.
And the fact that Thompson is a 5th yr senior wont mean a thing. Note that carlos brown and carson butler, both projected starters, and upperclassmen, lost there spots to true freshman. If Thompson doesnt prove himself, Rich Rod will start an underclassman. I think he is just as much on the block as mouton. If anything you might say that Thompson is more likely to get the boot because he has had more time to reach his potential, yet both he and mouton, a current sophomore and first year starter, are comparably bad.
Interesting you say that the expectation for Ezeh wasnt high and that he didnt regress. Consider the fact that he was named the captain of the defense. Obviously somone on the coaching staff thought pretty highly of him.
|8 years 22 weeks ago||Just as a side note, we might||
Just as a side note, we might have the worste tackline defense Ive ever seen. Our linebackers consistently allow yards after the hit, turning potential no gains into 3-4 yard gains. Also our safeties take terrible angles when tackling. This has lead to countless long TD runs over the past few years. Note the OSU rushing td's against michigan over the past two seasons.
|8 years 22 weeks ago||I am certainly not a fan of||
I am certainly not a fan of Charles Stewart. I think losing Harrison will hurt b/c he has been our most consistent safety. Actually Stevie Brown has played much better lately, and I expect him to get a lot of time next yr. Brandon Smith and Mike Williams likely both get considerable time next yr as well. Its hard to say how good smith will be; he was very highly recruited, but you can never be sure until he hits the field.
Id be shocked if Ezeh makes the move to the outside. Hes currently the captain of the defense, and will be the most experienced player on the defense come next yr. Fitzgerald will probably be fighting for a starting spot with Mouton and Thompson.
Seeing the secondary next yr should be interesting. In my opinion, Morgan Trent is not nearly as good as many people have declared him. Im not sure if im the only one who noticed, but he allows a TON of receptions. He gives a huge cushion to his assignment, as to prevent the deep ball, giving his man an easy 10-12 yard reception. This is interesting considering he is the fastest player on the roster. Based on the way he plays, i think hes more fit for safety because hes not terrific in close coverage and hes developed into one of the more sure tacklers in the secondary, which doesnt say a lot. I think hell fail miserably in the NFL, assuming he is signed to a roster.
Cissoko will likely step up to play the open spot. I really liked what I saw from him as a recruit and over the past few weeks. Hes shown good coverage skills in the limited action hes seen. But Im afraid his potential will be extremely limited by his size, which may even make him a liability at times. Hes got an obvious disadvantage in jump balls. Expect a lot of teams to work fade routes from the red-zone against Cissoko. Hell also have a lot of trouble against bigger recievers, in general, who can get around the press coverage, which he seems to prefer. I also watched him get thrown to the ground by an Illinois' wide out, while he was attempting to play press coverage. Luckily the ball was thrown to the otherside of the field on that particular play. Hes actually pretty well built at 5'8 190, but the height is a serious leverage issue. Hes also not a great tackler, much like Warren, making them both liabilities in rush coverage. However, Boubacar is pretty new to football so hopefully some experience will help him sure-up his tackling abilities.
Justin Turner is a highly touted recruit as well. Im curious to see how he fits into the plan for next yr.
|8 years 22 weeks ago||i believe your right, dutch||
i believe your right, dutch is listed as a sr. But my biggest concern on the defense, despite the very slim pickings at Dline is the linebacking core. If weve learned anything from the last two weeks its that a great Dline can be neutralized by a mobile QB and intelligent playcalling (quick short passes). I think our losses at Dline will be less of an issue than it is generally considered, even if graham leaves. Jamison, Johnson, and Taylor have all underperformed compared to expectation. In my opinion, Martin is a step up on the interior line. Jamison was far less effective than his potential suggested. He, taylor, and johnson have all been nonfactor over the past few games. Van Bergen will likely start at one side of the Dline. Sagesse will takeover for one of the lost DTs. It will be interesting to see wut happens with the other DE. Either one of the recruits (Lalota or Roh) or Banks. Roh likely will redshirt due to his size, so well see wut happens there.
Based on recent talk, were expected to land 1-3 additional Olinemen (Chris Freeman, Travis Bonds, Quinton Washington). These are all relatively good recruits, which leads me to believe that if Will Campbell recommits, as he is expected to, he will likely see early action at DT behind Sagesse, if he doesnt start right away.
As I said, my defensive worries are at linebacker. All three have played extremely poorly both in run support, and in pass coverage. Even Mouton was a converted safety, initially recognized for his pass coverage abilities, has been exposed in the pass game. The OLB's have been unable to shut down the sideline and screen passes. Obi Ezeh, who showed great potential last yr, seems to have regressed.
This being said, we dont have any terrific LB prospects or recruits. Fitzgerald was the lone four star linebacking recruit in the 2008 class, followed by none in the 2009 class (unless Jelani Jenkins answers the michigan prayers.) Meanwhile, Fitzgerald has only seen action this yr on special teams, which was a fantastic way to burn a potential redshirt yr (very Lloyd Carr-esk). Hopefully he will develope, but that still leaves us relatvely low expectation for the future.
This is rather painful to consider, when you compare to the current linebacking core to that of the 2006 team (Burgess, David Harris, Crable), who were all NFL draft picks.
|8 years 23 weeks ago||Aright i clearly forgot||
Aright i clearly forgot about injured zirbel. and i thought moosman was a sr. With both of them on the depth chart, im curious to see what they do with the line. Moosman and schilling have prob been our best two Olinemen this year so i doubt they get moved. Molk has been physically dominated by the majority of our oppenents, as he has been pushed into the backfield countless times, leaving McGuffie out to dry.
No question the left side of our line is going to look way different than this year. Zirbel, no doubt, steps in to play LT. I expect Barnum to start at LG b/c he has some experience from this yr, although its definately possible that Wermers takes his spot. That leaves Dan Oneal, Mealer, Wermers, Koury, Dorrestein, Huyge on the bench. Id love to see one of the them get converted to center to replace Molk (maybe Wermers or Barnum).
Lalota i think def gonna end up ad DE. I expect Roh to redshirt b/c hes 230 lbs and way too small to play at this level. Id like to see him come a semester early to get in some time with child-eating, wolf-raising Barwis. Id also like to see forcier come a semester early b/c Rich Rod has had to simplify the playbook b/c it was too complicated for all the freshman to pick up. Hopefully if he gets some time in he could see some early action. As for Lalota, he might be forced into the starting role if Graham leaves. Banks isnt good enough to be a starter.
Who ever put Jenkins on there depth chart, im crossin my fingers with you.
As for Campbell, im banking on the fact that he will recommit. Even though hes been ranked by scout as a 5 star Dline, a lot of what i have read has projected him as an Olineman. And to be completely honest, even though we are clearly deeper on the Oline, i consider it a much greater area of need. Weve seen the tremendous downside of having a weak Oline. And weve seen how even a great Dline can be nuetralized by quick passes and spread offenses. I think Campbell could have a greater impact on the Oline. Maybe im just crazy, but i think think that any RB and QB can succeed with a dominant Oline blocking. And McGuffie needs good blocking upfront so that he can get into the secondary and utilize his open field speed. I think it really depends on how well Dan Oneal is developing. Schilling will be a junior next season and Zirbel will be a redshirt junior. we need to start planning ahead for there departures so we dont have a situation like this year where we suddenly wake up and have no decent Olinemen. If Dan Oneal and Mealer can hold down the Oline, Campbell might end up on the Dline, next to martin. But we really have no idea how the two redshirts are doing. If there not up to par, we might see Campbell redshirt next yr, and backup Schilling during his final yr in 2010.