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|17 weeks 4 days ago||That's the pic you chose to||
That's the pic you chose to use?
|24 weeks 4 days ago||Never in the long history of||
Never in the long history of the universe.
|24 weeks 4 days ago||Imagine how delighted we'll||
Imagine how delighted we'll all be when it turns out that Hill and Onwenu have just been trolling Sparty, getting their hopes up, just to sign with Michigan.
The insiders sound pretty dang confident on this one, and if Mike was trending to MSU, there'd be more smoke to this fire. Go look at Jordan Fuller's twitter and report back on how reliable twitter profiles are.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Hey Truthbtold, what do you||
Hey Truthbtold, what do you think about Michigan? And also nice mustache.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Definitely not a troll.||
Definitely not a troll.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||Wow I bet you feel really||
Wow I bet you feel really good about yourself.
|40 weeks 4 days ago||He literally said "You're||
He literally said "You're better than them...not as people...but as a place, hell yeah it's better"
|1 year 2 weeks ago||You thought wrong.||
You thought wrong.
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Amazing. The video||
Amazing. The video description says "University of Michigan head coach John Harbaugh enters the game for the A's as their first base coach"
Harkens back to that wondrous Free Press gaffe the day he was hired.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Then don't break up with||
Then don't break up with her.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||If he invites me to play on||
If he invites me to play on facebook, I'm going to unfriend his ass.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||Fraidy Cat. #justsayin.||
Fraidy Cat. #justsayin.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||J to the E to the L to the L||
J to the E to the L to the L to the O
|1 year 34 weeks ago||cool weed leaf avatar||
cool weed leaf avatar
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Yes this is news. Why are you||
Yes this is news. Why are you even taking issue with the newsness of this post? This is one of the newsiest posts on the board, and the information contained therein is news to me.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Talk about a loose||
Talk about a loose definition. In sports you an attend or not attend and still attend!
1 [ with obj. ] be present at (an event, meeting, or function)
Long live the streak!!!
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Jesus Clarence just go away||
Jesus Clarence just go away
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Those are not Michigan||
Those are not Michigan colors.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||I'm glad he made it out of||
I'm glad he made it out of this to safety. Panthers are very dangerous animals and can easily tear a man limb from limb.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Jeff09 - I admire the way you||
Jeff09 - I admire the way you phrased this comment. It's respectful but makes a strong point and is well put. Myself, I tend to be a little more, shall we say, antagonistic.
But I hope Brian and others have a look at this because I think it succinctly describes some of the main points for those of us that took issue with his take on this.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Funny how emotional everyone||
Funny how emotional everyone is getting over Frank Clark because Brian activated that command in their brains.
No one is saying Frank Clark should be literally torn to pieces by a pack of wolves. If you saw that somewhere, then welcome to the internet where everything is exaggerated, rude, and hyperbolic. This narrative of the victim Frank Clark is getting more vomit inducing by the second.
But hey, let me get real for second:
Frank Clark just beat the living hell out of a woman, like 2 days ago. Frank Clark, a 270 lb DE and NFL prospect, beat a woman so badly her brothers thought her life was ending in Frank Clark's hands that night. If she is actually pregnant, he could have ended 2 lives.
Fuck you apologists for shaping this sorry narrative. It's embarrassing.
Frank Clark's life is not over. When Frank Clark is ready to be a man, ready to be accountable for himself and ready to be a force for good with his actions - he should be welcomed and supported to do so with open arms.
But only 2 days after committing an egregious crime against a defenseless victim - having just been arraigned and possibly still in jail - today is not the day. Frank Clark needs to learn the impact his actions have on others, the victim, society- but you come here and you see a nice eulogy for a fallen star with a picture of a guy who, in all likelihood, was realizing the magnitude of the fact he just pissed away a shot at more money than he could ever need and one of the best jobs in the world - as well as knowing that his cowardice will be national news before he gets out of jail, and it makes you want to have a righteous feelings session for how mean everyone is being to Frank Clark.
No, you've got it all wrong and so does every other exuse making apologist on here.
Talk about being condescending? Condescending is believing someone like Frank Clark doesn't know right from wrong when it comes to beating a woman within inches of her life. The hell outta here.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Talk about||
Talk about condescending!
Suggesting a person like Frank Clark was somehow handicapped from knowing right vs wrong in this situation because of his upbringing is condescending.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||I was in the heat of the||
I was in the heat of the moment when I shot and killed guy that cut me off on my way to work.
Is that similar too?
There are clearly much different lines being crossed, regardless of whatever caveats you put around it. These are not of the same motivation.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||It's pretty tricky to, when||
It's pretty tricky to, when writing something making an argument, include an anecdote to aid in making the argument, but frame it in such a way that it can't have issue taken with whether or not it's a fair or accurate comparison.
I say if you include it, you meant it. It's one of the most important parts of the piece, regardless of how it's framed. Brian wants it to help make his point without it making what's a more natural reading of his anecdote, which is that it makes what Frank did more understandable and less unreasonable.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||What you pointed out is a||
What you pointed out is a massive difference most here seem happy to just gloss over.
I would say it's also mostly pointless because it's happening in blog comments and not in a place where it matters. If society's reaction didn't reflect how appalling it views his crime, the incentive to reform wouldn't exist.
Also, people say stupid, exaggerated things on the internet all the time in almost every conceivable circumstance. It's practically the norm. Not even practically, it is to be expected. That doesn't make it "right" but let's not let this fact cloud the issue.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||But hey, nobody will see this||
But hey, nobody will see this anyway below the 150 posts stroking fearless leader's ego. After hanging FC yesterday, glad you all came back out for this party!
|1 year 35 weeks ago||And actually, this statement||
And actually, this statement sums up everything that's wrong with Brian's view here: "He can be a guy that this happened to once..."
Nothing "happened" to Frank Clark. Fate did not intervene, a lightning bolt did not strike him and make him act in this way. Frank made this happen. Frank alone. Even saying that this is something that "happened" to him is an apologist way of framing the topic, and dead wrong in its interpretation.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||150+ comments later||
Brian, I appreciate that you said this because it brings some important points to light, but I don't agree (very much) with this. I'm going to try to choose my words carefully.
There is a place for sympathy, and Frank deserves some. It is sad that a person can get so close and fall. I feel sadness that he will likely not achieve some of his dreams.
But from the sound of it, Frank Clark mercilessly pounded a woman (who is possibly pregrant) nearly to the edge of what a person can take.
Your post blurs some important lines together. As a lifelong hockey player, I've experienced those blind rage moments often. Even as an adult they still happen and sometimes I act on them and regret it when I do - hell, sometimes people get hurt. But that kind of blind rage and your type of blind rage, and what Frank did are continents apart in how similar they are.
What you're describing is more like Will Gholston pulling on a facemask at the bottom of the pile, or maybe like Todd Bertuzzi attacking Steve Moore as a more extreme example - but the conditions for the attack happening are so inherently different they're not similar at all. When you take the field or take the ice, you're implicitly acknowledging the potential for bodily harm because of what sport is. No, you're not expecting to be attacked, but the game provides an environment that can spawn conflict which can manifest in physical force being used. It's not always right, but it's also not unexpected.
Frank Clark's victim had no option to opt in or out of the circumstances and was just subjected to the beating.
It is also entirely something else to continue beating someone when they're clearly harmed. We don't know all the details in Franks case, but the fact that kids are running out of the room terrified that Frank is killing her suggests this wasn't just a "it happened so fast" kind of moment.
Not all women are physically inferior/helpless to a man's violence, but damn near all of them are going to be physically inferior to an NFL caliber DE. If Frank or me or anyone else did this to say a 5 year old child or someone equally as helpless to physical force, would we be so concerned with sympathy? I don't think so.
What Frank did was an egregious act. Utterly egregious, against humanity, even.
Yes, we all act impulsively, sometimes despicably, sometimes just as despicably as Frank Clark - we're not different in that respect.
But when you lump those who respond angrily to Frank's action into the "he's a miserable waste of atoms camp" - it's pretty disingenuous. Do I support sending the mob out to hang him? No. People should be cognizant and responsible in what they're saying. But Frank is a representative of our university, and we should be mad at him. He failed in one of the worst ways a person can fail at that job.
Do I want Frank to pull it together and live a better life going forward? Of course. I would like that for all the people that make mistakes that cost them so dearly, not just the ones fortunate enough to star at elite athletics. But you're not going to see me lamenting Frank sleeping in the bed he made. Not right now anyway, that's exactly where he belongs right now. It's up to him what path he takes next.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||I think Brandon Marshall will||
I think Brandon Marshall will have a good game. Even though the Bears suck, Cutler looks his way before anyone else.
I'm just as skeptical of West as you are, but I'm starting him anyway because Arian Foster is out and 2 of my other RBs or on bye.
Thoughts on Brandon LaFell vs Martavis Bryant?
|1 year 35 weeks ago||I've had some TIMES in||
I've had some TIMES in suburban El Paso...