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|2 hours 44 min ago||I don't know, that's why I asked||
So far, it hasn't seemed to help much at UM, but they obviously did a great job at Stanford. So, what does that mean, I don't know. We've struggled at o-line for quite a few years straight now, despite good recruiting and good coaching. I'm not quite sure why to be honest. The only thing I can guess is that we had bad luck with recruits panning out, poor talent evaluation, jrs/srs already at their cieling, and/or our best o-lineman are just too young to be effective at the college yet.
|15 hours 34 min ago||4/5 in the NFL?||
Sounds to me like they were underrated recruits out of HS.
Does that mean we are any more likely to have a better o-line in the next few years?
|1 day 3 hours ago||I look at it this way||
We've beaten them twice in the last 16 years. You tell me if we can compete.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Are you sure?||
Like I said, I'll believe it when it actually happens, not when there is some excuse as to why it should have.
|1 day 5 hours ago||I want to believe that||
I so want to believe this, but I simply won't be lured into getting my hopes up until we actually beat them...not just keep it close or whatever other moral victory short of actually winning the game you can think of.
|1 day 5 hours ago||You are correct||
Unfortunately, no. OSU has an amazing class coming in. And, while our class is quite good and we are in on many top un-committed players, we have very little chance of having a class as good as OSUs. :/
|2 days 23 hours ago||Gotta look at all the evidence||
What evidence do we have that PSU is better than OSU? They beat them head-to-head. That is definately solid evidence. But, that doesn't tell the whole picture. Ultimately their overall record is more indicitave of who is the better team. If PSU had lost 5 games instead of 2, but still won the head-to-head game would we still say PSU is the better team? If not, then we have to admit total record matters. So, if OSU has one less loss that's important. Now is that alone enough to say they're the better team? Probably not. So, look further. Look at strength of schedule. OSU has wins over UM, Oklahoma, Wiscy, and Nebraska. PSU only has the win over OSU and a win over Wiscy. They didn't beat Wiscy as soundly as OSU did. They got killed by UM, whom OSU narrowly beat. Those are their only common ranked opponents. I'd also consider where the OSU/PSU game was played and how close it was. PSU won narrowly at home. Would they win in a neutral site game? I don't think so.
So, overall if you look at the entire season and all the evidence OSU is the better team, despite a very close loss on the road at PSU.
|2 days 23 hours ago||my take||
we all know OSU is better than PSU. they may have lost head-to-head, but it was last minute and on the road, similar to UM/OSU. so you have look to further at records and schedule. PSU has 2 losses and no other big wins other than Wisconsin. OSU has one loss and wind vs Oklahoma, UM, and Wisconsin and soundly beat Wisconsin.
IMO OSU clearly has a better total resume. UM is the unfortunate one that screwed themselves at Iowa and got screwed at OSU. but, UM had also a better resume than PSU
|3 days 3 hours ago||Eh||
Bama and FLA were not the rivals that OSU and UM are. OSU has so many built in advantages that keep them on top including in state talent and few in state competition for it. UM has been on the bad side of this rivalry for just under 2 decades now. I believe in Harbaugh, but in terms of being better than OSU, I'm at the "I'll believe it when I see it" stage.
|4 days 5 hours ago||As expected...really good, but not NC level yet||
I thought the offensive line would have been a little better. IMO they cost us the games we lost and almost Wiscy. I thought the LBs and QB were better than I expected. I thought the d-line and the DBs were as expected. I thought Darboh was better than expected, Butt as expected, and Chesson worse. I think Speight and Evans were the suprise of the season as they both looked really good and gave me hope for next year. It's weird to say the offensive line was so meh, that it also gives me confidence that it won't get much worse next year.
Overall I think it all went as expected, a lock down defense with a good offense that would sputter against good defenses. We split with the rivals. I was thinking somewhere between 1-3 losses, so 10-2 regular season makes sense. I think we lost the 2 games by a smaller margin than I expected. I didn't expect to go undefeated and we were within 6 points of doing so. So, overall I think the season was better than I expected mainly because Speight was pretty good most of the year and he was a total question mark in the beginning. Combine that with the defense was it was supposed to be and that lead to a great season.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Do we think we beat Bama or would you rather get there and lose?||
I think you have to ask yourself 2 questions. 1) If we played Bama do you think we would win? And, 2) if we played in a New Year's Day bowl do you think we would win?
I don't believe we can beat Bama and I do believe we'd have a good chance of winning against the rest of the field in a bowl. So, if I had to chose between losing to Bama and beating another top 15 team, I'd take the later.
If by some stretch we get into the playoffs as the #4 seed and get beaten by Bama I will come back and tell you all I told you so.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Do we really want to play Bama?||
Do we really want to be the #4 seed and have to play Bama? Personally I'd prefer to go to a nice bowl game and finish the season with a win.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Don't forget Liufau got injured in the UM game||
I think some folks forget that CO was winning before Liufau got knocked out of the game. I still think we win with a healthy Luifau, but it would have been a lot closer.
|5 days 16 hours ago||Be ahead of OSU||
What do I want? I want to have a better class than OSU. That's the only way to beat them.
In '12 UM was ranked #7 and OSU was ranked #6. In '13 UM was ranked #5 and OSU was #6 (ESPN). This would be this year's RS senior and senior classes which means they were basically equal over that two year span. So all those guys like Charlton, Glasgow, Wormley, McCray, Gedeon, Lewis, Thomas, Kalis, Magnusson, Smith, Chesson, Darboh, Butt, etc. were all in those classes. Granted, OSU played a lot of RS sophomores and juniors this year and we played mostly seniors so it's not apples to apples, but you get the gist. We were comparable to OSU's recruiting classes for Hoke's first 2 years.
Why does being better than our biggest rival seem like such a rediculous desire?
FWIW I don't realistically expect us to out-recruit OSU in the team rankings more than once every few years due to geographical advantages that OSU has, more recent success, and less in-state competition. But, I am hopeful we can be close enough to beat them more than once every 8 years. If we can't do at least twice that good (once every 4) I will be quite disapointed.
|5 days 23 hours ago||This class seems super solid, but not super talented||
I'm a little concerned that when looking across at OSU's class we just won't be able to compete. We have a ton of solid guys, but not a ton of impressive guys. IMO Impressive guys that are currnetly committed are McCaffrey, Vilian, and Singleton (pre-ACL). O'Maury seems really athletic as does St. Juste, but they both seem a little less of a sure thing too, and obviously who knows how Singleton recovers from his injury. The other super talented guys are all targets. Granted, it would be great if we got Ruiz, Wilson, Filiaga, DPJ, Solomon, Gay, or Holmes, but without a good chunck of them I don't see a ton of playmakers.
I feel like we are just solid in a lot of positions, but will have trouble with the really athletic teams that will make playoff rosters. This should give us a 10-win type of team, but IMO not a playoff type of team unless we get a good chunck of those targets. Here's to hoping for Harbaugh et al. are able to make waves as we closer to signing day.
|1 week 6 hours ago||Yes, they matchup better IMO||
Yes, although UM has a better defense than both of those teams, they matchup better with Bama. Both Clemson and OSU have offenses that don't require as good of a performance from their o-line, in part because of their team speed and in part because of the mobility of their QBs. Our offense requires good play by our o-line to be effective, which is why for parts of or entire games against Wiscy, Iowa, and OSU we didn't move the ball at all. Against Bama our o-line would get mauled. Clemson and OSU wouldn't have as much of a problem getting first downs as we would. Their weaknesses on defense would be mitigated because Bama isn't great offensively. It's just a better matchup in my opinion
|1 week 6 hours ago||I wouldn't mind if it became a requirement||
I wouldn't mind if you had to win your conference to get to the playoff. They'd simply take the top 4 ranked conference winners from the Power 5 conferences. End of story, no debate on who gets in, they all know ahead of time they have to win their conference or bust.
|1 week 15 hours ago||Our offense wouldn't be able to move the ball||
Our defense may be able to make it a low scoring game for a while, but our o-line would be dominated by Bama's d-line. We wouldn't be able to run. We'd have to throw, Speight would get pressured regularly, then we'd get turnovers, sacks, or negative plays. We'd have lots of 3-and-outs, which would put pressure on our defense, which would eventually wear down and get beat in the second half. That's just a casual fan's observation/opinion, but who knows...it's college football.
|1 week 17 hours ago||Need a mobile QB to deal with Bama's D-line||
IMHO whomever gets the benefit of the #4 seed is going to get soundly beaten by Bama. I don't see any team below #3 making a competitive game with Bama. I think it would take an athletic QB like Jackson/Louisville to give them a good game, but Louisville has no chance to get in. Barrett & OSU or Watson & Clemson may be able to hang with them for a bit, but I don't see any o-line that can handle Bama's d-line, which means the QB has to be able to make plays on his own. UM, PSU, Wiscy, Washington don't seem to fit that bill.
|1 week 1 day ago||I think McDoom will be a good||
I think McDoom will be a good one, and I think the others kind of fall into the catagory of reliable and good blockers. The one question marks is Harris who seems to have the ability to be a big play WR, but not sure if that pans out. If we can get a guy like DPJ, I think he's a difference maker immediately and gives us that great big play athlete.
With an experienced QB, FB, TEs, an explosive RB in Evans, and above average WRs (plus hopefully inserting one great one in DPJ), we should be fine as long as the o-line has a pulse. We won't be dominant, but good enough for 9 wins in a rebuilding year, while poised to be really good the following year. I'll take that.
|1 week 2 days ago||McDowell is 276, Hurst is 282, Gary is 285||
Malik McDowell is 6'6" 276 and Rashon Gary is 6'5" 287. I bet McDowell was even lighter as a true freshmen, who even at that time was still a really good DT. McDowell routinely blows back guys that are much heavier. McDowell neither looks big nor particularly muscular. I don't think his size or strength is a factor here. I'd be surprised if freshman Malik McDowell was stronger than the guys he went up against, but he was still able to beat them. I think Gary has the ability to be effective in the middle right now. Hurst is another guy smaller than Gary that is effective at DT.
|1 week 2 days ago||Best part...||
That's Mikey Weber.
|1 week 2 days ago||Gary getting more snaps doesn't mean they have to come from Taco||
I'm not suggesting a Gary for Charlton swap. Charlton had a great game. I'm just suggesting he get more snaps. They could have come from Wormley or Godin as well. I also thought he could be utilized at DT, but they never seemed to want to try that. I'd like to see a Charlton, Hurst, Gary, Wormley pass rush grouping the way OSU uses all DEs on 3rd and longs. Taco had a great season and a great game, I just thought we could have used Mone & Gary more to keep the others fresh. Wasn't this the same board that thought Gary would be staring day 1?
|1 week 2 days ago||Hoke got lucky in his first year against OSU||
Hoke did a great job in his first year, but let's be real. The only reason he beat OSU was because Tressel and Pryor unexpectedly left. Even still, he barely escaped beating OSU at home. I'll give him credit in that he played them close the next two years before getting blown out in year 4. But, without an interim head coach he's 0-4 vs OSU.
Harbaugh may very well go 0-3 vs OSU, but 2 consecutive 10 win seaons and a bowl victory is already more than Hoke did. I don't see a NC in our next few years, but I'd bet Harbaugh gets at least 8 wins next year and 10 or more again in year 4. To win 8-10 games every year for your fist 4 years is pretty impressive. It's not easy to win NCs, but you'd have to assume he'll be in the mix at some point in the next 5-10 years if he remains at UM.
|1 week 2 days ago||I know I know||
Yeah, agreed, but I don't want to go there. Our missed guys that were 4-star talents from the '12 and '13 class are well documented and as equally frustrating.
|1 week 2 days ago||I don't understand that logic||
Why settle for that? Why not try and make plays? I don't understand that logic. It's one thing if a guy blows a coverage, misses a block, fumbles, drops a ball, etc. But, to not give a guy a chance that has made plays over the course of the season doesn't make sense when you need a big play.
|1 week 2 days ago||I disagree, but could see the committee seeing it that way||
I tend to agree with you, probably only because I prefer to assume things won't go in UM's favor. However, if I were a complete outsider with no horse in the race, I don't see how anyone could put in Wiscy or PSU over UM when they all have identical records (for whomever wins the B1G), yet UM beat both of them. I don't think the other teams really matter. It's really only between UW, B1G winner, and UM.
I don't see what it matters if your 2 losses were in conference or out of conference. Granted, I think it's important who you lose to and by how much, but not whether or not it's in or out of conference. That distinction is important for the conference championship conversation, but not the playoff conversation IMO. But, that's just me and not what I believe the committee will do. Only time will tell.
All that being said, I'd prefer not to go to the playoff because I think Bama and Clemson are both significantly better than us and don't want to see that game. We can obviously play with OSU and I'd love to see us play UW, but I think a bowl game against another opponent would be better of UM. I'd like to see us play Tennessee, Oklahoma, or Florida again. I don't want any part of Louisville or any other mobile QBs, or Dalvin Cook for that matter.
|1 week 2 days ago||What have you done lately or body of work?||
Hard to tell what the committee would do. I guess it's the question of what is more important, putting in a conferene winner or the better team given the body of work. I guess the same could be said if PSU wins the B1G, but I can't see them getting ahead of UM either. What if Clemson or Bama lose their conference title? Could Florida get in with 2 losses?
|1 week 2 days ago||I can see both sides||
Yes, with at least one call (the 4th down) going another way, UM could have won the game probably assuming we could run out the clock. The other calls it's hard to say. It could have changed how the game played out, but does any of them gurantee UM would have won? I don't see it that way. Any number of variables could have changed if those PI calls go our way.
Wilton could have not thrown a pick-6. Wilton could have not fumbled on the goal line. OSU could have kicked 2 FGs. We could have stopped JT and pressured him more in the 4th quarter like we did in the first half. It looked like our defense got fatigued in the 4th quarter and their defense took over in the 4th quarter, which is what better teams do.
So, although if calls went a different way could we have won?...yes. Did OSU make mistakes and give us an opportunity to win?...yes. But, they also shut us down when they had to and made plays when they had to. We still had an opportunity to make plays despite the officiating, so IMO the officials gave them an advantage, but didn't give them the game. We still had an opportunity to take it, but were unable to. I thought the better team won on that particular day (I think UM wins on a neutral site or at home).
|1 week 2 days ago||Right now 5 makes sense (#4 if UW loses to CO)||
Every team that is 1-4 only has one loss. But, 3 of them have to play another game. If Colorado beats Washington (whom UM beat), I'd have to assume UM gets the nod. The only other team I can see getting in ahead of UM is if Wiscy beats PSU soundly. Even then it's hard to imagine Wiscy goes ahead of UM. UM beat Wiscy and crushed PSU. That would leave Wiscy's only argument as a 17-9 win over Iowa, which hardly seems right to put them ahead of UM when UM lost to Iowa by one point, beat Wiscy head-to-head, and lost by a smaller margin to OSU. It would be one thing if Wiscy beat OSU, but they didn't. So, if UW looses I think UM has got a decent shot.