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|13 hours 30 min ago||This seems in poor taste||
While I totally disagree with his hot take on Peppers, it seems in poor taste to pile on a guy that just lost his job. I've had my contract as a teacher not renewed before because of budget cuts and been forced to relocate, find a new job, etc. and it's no fun. I personally will be supportive towards the guy during what is likely to be a challenging situation. He is still a person that has to make a living and support his family.
|1 day 16 hours ago||Vince Young 2.0||
Kinda reminds me of a Vince Young...really tall, athletic, moves very well, has that side sling throw with a good arm and good velocity. Those types of QBs are so hard to defend when they have size, speed, and can throw ala Vince Young, Terrelle Pryor, Cam Newton, etc.
|1 week 2 days ago||DPJ or Samuels?||
Seem like 2 explosive guys that would fit and neither are yet to be starters, although DPJ may soon. I know Samuels isn't on campus yet, but he'll be another option in the fall.
|1 week 2 days ago||Taco vs Chase||
I'd be curious to know how Chase tests on things like agility, strength, and power. Keep in mind that Taco is 6'6" 277 lbs and Chase is 6'3" 245. Being scouted by the NFL Taco was recognized as having really good reaction time off the snap. He also has good hands and length. He also has the ability to cover ground laterally quickly. Taco has generally been known as a talented, but raw player, that needs to get tougher and more consistent. He was ranked as the #4 DE at the Combine. Winovich kind of gives the opposite impression that he's a really high motor guy who's not afraid to get nasty, but probably has a lower cieling. Chase definately lacks the size. Looking at the two I'd call Taco the more athletic player, but athleticism can be viewed in lots of different ways.
|1 week 2 days ago||High, but not Henson high||
Yeah, definately the top QB recruit we've had in a while, but probably not quite as high as Henson. If memory serves me right, his best ranking was by 247 at #34 overall and his worst by Rivals at #158. Although Rivals, Scout, and 247 weren't around, Henson was considered a 5-star recruit, which mean's he was probably a top 25 guy.
|1 week 2 days ago||Agree||
Winovich will be good, but surely a downgrade from Charlton. Gary may be an upgrade over Wormley. Hurst will be an upgrade over Godin. My concern is the health of Mone. LBs will be fine, then again concerned about the health of Long and Hill. First string if healthy will be great. The concern is depth. But Charlton was the man last year. He will be missed.
|1 week 3 days ago||Agreed & Peters has a bit of a weird delivery||
I didn't get to see them game and only the highlights. But, Henson was a 5-star recruit, wasn't Peters more like a Top 150 type? Henson was inconsistent in his second year, but he was pretty darn good as a junior and beat OSU. I guess time will tell if Peters gets there in his 3rd year.
I don't watch a ton of film on recruits, so I didn't realize this until seeing Peters throwing in the spring game, but I was a little surprised that Peters has a bit of a funky delivery. He has a long delivery and has some wasted movement with wrapping the ball back behind the shoulder. Why do we seem to have so many guys with odd deliveries? I guess I expected to see more of a natural throwing style when I heard that most think he has more arm talent than Speight, but Speight has an odd delivery too as he short-arms it.
Ultimately, the delivery is less important that accuracy and decision making, but I don't think either are quite to the ability of the names mentioned so far.
|1 week 6 days ago||Pretty similar to our record||
That's pretty similar to our record against them the past 10 years so that would make sense. Recruiting correlates highly with winning percentage.
You don't have to out-recruit someone to beat them, but you have to be close enough with talent level that coaching, development, scheme, etc. can get you a win. How close is close enough...who knows?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Really wish we still had Cole||
I was really excited about him coming out of HS. He could play a lot of positions that are up for grabs right now...nickel/safety/viper/return.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||You nailed it||
Once the CWS changed the regional & super regional tournaments from a true regional, meaning you had to be from that region, to a random draw, mid-west and northern schools lost their advantage. It's a warm weather sport and hard to compete in cold weather states.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Seems unlikely||
I'd be very surprised if Speight gets benched unless he gets injured or plays terribly, especially if the running game isn't producing. I would be incredibly surprised if Speight is not our QB for as long as he is at Michigan. Peters may have a higher cieling, but Speight is ahead of him right now and the only way he gets beat out is if Peters proves he's better in a game. He'd have to be lights out in a blowout or something while at the same time Speight is struggling.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Think he's got "it"||
He's not the most gifted thrower or runner for that matter, but he's tough, smart, and resilient. These skills lend to improvements over time IMO.
I think he'll be better this year and his struggles from last year can be attributed to the o-line, injury, and inexperience. He'll take us as far as our o-line allows IMO. He won't be a Desean Watson and beat you by himself, but he'll extend and make plays and will limit turnovers. We have a good RB and talented but young WRs. If the o-line can just make some small creases that we can run enough to have balance, Speight can hit open guys, be a good leader, use his legs from time to time, etc. He won't be elite in year two, but he should be pretty good.
|5 weeks 18 hours ago||Matthieu vs. Peppers||
Both are athletic and natural read & react players. Jabrill is about 30 lbs heavier and a few inches taller. From what I've heard they both probably correlate best to safety/nickel in the NFL. But, my impression was that Matthieu was much better in coverage than Jabrill while he was in college. If I remember correctly Matthiu was a turnover machine, although I think he forced more fumbles than interceptions I still think he was much better in coverage than Jabrill at this point in both their careers.
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||We hope for a true rivalry close to 50/50||
It's been so long since we've beaten OSU with any regularity, and so much has changed in college football since 2000 that it's hard to pinpoint the specifics as to why OSU is so much better than UM. But, from my perspective the main change is in recruiting as the dawn of the internet age, recruiting websites, social media, and 4 & 5-star HS football recruits becoming semi famous that has most changed. I feel like there was a time when a name brand school like UM could go into places like CA, TX, FL, AL, OH and recruit top 150-type kids. I think it has gotten much harder to do that than it used to be. That gives OSU a significant geographical advantage over UM in that there is more in-state talent in OH than in MI. Now, why is OSU so successful at pulling kids out of TX and UM is not? I don't have an answer for that. Obviously Meyer is a great coach and great recruiter, but so it Harbaugh, so why can Meyer do it, but Harbaugh can't? Not sure other than recent success. So, that part may take time. Saban can do it too, but Saban probably has the best recruiting we've ever seen since recruiting rankings became a thing.
Back to the original question...how often does Michigan have to beat OSU for you to be satisfied? I think they have be competitive every game, so no blowouts. They should be able to hover at .500 in home games against OSU and they should be able to hover at .250 when playing in Columbus. So, if they win 1 out of every 2 home games and 1 out of every 4 away games over the course of a 10 year span that would equate roughly 4 wins.
My hunch is although we will continue to recruit similarly to OSU, they will continue to slightly out-recruit UM. Over time UM will close the gap, but OSU will likely remain slightly more talented. That means UM will have to be significantly better at coaching and development in order to win more games. Since both programs have great coaching that seems unlikely. So, my guess is as long as these two coaches remain in their current positions starting in 2018, OSU will remain slightly more talented, will recruit slightly better, and OSU will retain a better winning percentage. So, I'd be happy if we get around .400 against them and it becomes a true rivalry. I don't see another win streak like we had in the 90s as long as OSU has a coach like Meyer in place.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I know I get pissed when my||
I know I get pissed when my girlfriend leaves the lights on and doesn't leave enough money in the joint account! Doesn't she know I pay the bills???
In all seriousness, it's funny how such little things like preferenes over room temperature, lights being left on/off, or the dishes can be such challenging things to comprimise. We've had plenty of fights about all of them, although never with physical contact.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||C'mon man that was a great game that could have gone either way||
It was an amazing game with two really good teams, both of which also had some weaknesses. Both teams were very evenly matched and ultimately UM came up short. That's sports. You don't win every game you're supposed to. Could UM have won that game?...of course. Does that make JH any less of a coach becasue they lost a close game on the road with really bad officiating?...I don't see how.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Sometime in the late 2000s||
I guess sometime in the late 2000s (late Carr/early RR) when it had gone a stretch of 8-10 years and we had only beaten them once. It has only gotten worse over time.
I think if Hoke continued to produce 9+ win seasons as he did in his first year he would not have gotten fired. Hoke probably had a better first year than JH, but his W/L record got worse each year. JH's 2nd year team showed improvement over his first. Based on the roster you'd expect a slightly down year in 2017 by no fault of JH, but still probably 9ish wins. So, the difference so far between Hoke and JH is an upward trend with JH. RR is another story with lots of factors all over the map, but he probably just wasn't a good fit.
I think as long as any coach keeps the floor at 8 wins and hits the 10+ mark every once in a while, beats MSU, remains competitive with OSU, and recruits well it's unlikely the coach would get fired. Hoke couldn't keep that going, so far JH has. FWIW JH has a track record at a higher level than Hoke did which also gives him more credibility.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Ingore||
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Only an observation||
Did you mistake my observation for an argument in favor of something?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Highly unlikely we beat OSU in 2017||
Do you know what our and OSU rosters look like? It was unlikely we'd beat OSU 2 years ago. It's also unlikely looking at our rosters that we'll beat OSU next year. Our opportunity was last year, and we came darned close. It's hard to argue that UM wasn't at least as good as OSU last year.
But, if we are going to have a rebuilding year, it's likely going to be next year. So, considering that and the way the recruiting classes went in Hoke's last full year and the year he got fired you'd assume this year will the year where there's a lot of young guys playing. So, based on how both OSU and UM have recruited it would be unfair to judge Harbaugh on beating OSU or winning a B1G title next season.
I think it's fair to look at 2018 and 2019 and expect him to at least split. But, IMHO the best one can expect is to start to split 50/50 with OSU going forward starting in 2018. FWIW 2019 will probably be the first season with a Harbaugh recruited QB.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Shelton Johnson et. al||
Is it just me or are an abnormally high percentage of transfers and/or guys that break team rules and are no longer with the program seem to be very talented kids (Brian Cole, Amir Mitchell, Devin Asiasi, Shelton Johnson)? Maybe I'm only remembering the ones that got recruiting publicity, but that seems like a bunch of talent I'd still like to have on the team.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||USC & UCLA are blue blood in different sports||
I'd consider USC a blue blood football program and UCLA a blue blood basketball program, but USC is not a blue blood basketball program and UCLA is not a blue blood football program. They might be the closest match though.
(Sorry, I originally posted this somewhere else before USC (Trojans) lost, but they are now out so it's down to UM & Wiscy.)
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Correct, USC no longer in||
Good call. I posted this somewhere else before USC (Trojans) lost, but they are now out so it's down to UM & Wiscy.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||IMO UM is not a blue blood, but are in that second tier||
Agreed, but only having one NC IMO does not qualify a team as a "blue blood" program when looking at their historic record (.584 winning percentage). For example if you compare football, UM is #1 all time in wins. Basketball is not even in the top 50.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Potential to be in Top 10 in both sports||
Interestingly there are only 3 teams that finished in the Top 10 post-season rankings in football that are still in the basketball bracket: Michigan, Wisconsin, and USC. Only time will tell if they will finish in the Top 10 in basketball. None of their rivals are still in this year's bracket and none of them are really blue blood basketball programs. Wiscy is usually solid and UM has had it's ups and downs and obviously has the notoriety of the Fab Five, but only has one NC to it's name, although they did lose in the NC game 4 additional times.
The blue blood football programs like Bama, Florida, FSU, Miami, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, OSU, UM, ND, etc. aren't really blue blood blood basketball programs for the most part. And the blue blood basketball programs like UNC, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana, Syracuse, UCONN, etc. don't really have great football programs. There are a handfull that are pretty good at both for periods of time like UM, MSU, OSU, UCLA, USC, Florida, Syracuse, but none that have really stood the test the time, even over say the past 25 years.
The two sports generally don't tend to match up. It's really hard to be good at both for an extended period of time.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||DPJ is an athletic freak||
Caveot: As Stu McGill said "The best athletes rarely outperform their peers in pre-season testing like bench pressing and squatting. Their distinguishing qualities are motor control. The ability to exert strength quickly, deactivate muscle quickly, and optimally project forces throughout the body linkage is characteristic of this skill."
That being said, DPJ has some amazing athletic qualities to build from and I'm excited to see what he can do.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||You're probably right, it's unlikely||
You're probably right, which is why I think it's still unlikely. But, Oregon probably already lost their window. Louisville may have a shot...they've got the QB. But, FSU & Clemson will be difficult games next year. If Wiscy had a Lamar Jackson type player they'd be my pick. But, they did have R. Wilson and still couldn't get there, which is why all these are unlikely.
One thing about Prescott, despite the fact that we're realizing now that he's in the NFL that he's probably better than we though in college, he doesn't really use his legs that much even though he's mobile. Guys like Jackson, Newton, and Vick did so much more. One of the things these types of QBs would have to do to beat a superior team like a Bama, FSU, OSU, etc. is use their legs to make plays when the play breaks down. That's what makes them so hard to defend. They can compensate for their team not being as good. And, a QB can do that when other positions can't because they get the ball in their hands every play. It's easier than a RB who really only has one option...run. A QB can run or throw on every play making them harder to defend. I think that is probably required for one of these teams to make a NC run.
|7 weeks 11 hours ago||One QB away (Miss St.?)||
A number of all around quality teams, none of which compete with the likes of OSU, Bama, FSU, or USC in recruiting are just one underrated or second chance dynamic QB away. Take a Vick, Newton, or Watson and put him on a Va. Tech, Oregon, Wisconsin, or Louisville on a good year with some luck and they can do it. It's not likely, but certainly possible.
If I had to pick one, unfortunatley Miss St. as the only SEC team without one probably has the most liklihood to pull that dynamic QB out of their backyard.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||I'm not sure the burden of proof is that high to||
I'm not sure the burden of proof is that high to kick a kid out of the dorms. I was an RA and it happened all the time. If there is anyone other than the one victim that can attest to the potential crime, the head of housing might meet with all parties and ask the alleged perps to leave pending investigation. They have the responsibility of protecting the rest of the dorms population at the same time balancing the alleged perps rights.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Lets not oversimplify this||
When it comes down to understanding mechanistic factors in an applied science such as exercise is that it’s extremely difficult to tease out the variables so you can draw cause/effect conclusions. There are a few things we should clarify that seem to be thrown around right now. One is weight gain, another is hypertrophy, and a third is how college football S&C programs are designed.
The topic of hypertrophy (building lean mass as an adaptation to resistance training) is much more complex than some are making it out to be. First, if one cares enough to pay attention and track their macronutrients & calories, one can fairly easily within several weeks figure out what their maintenance calories are (how much they can eat based on their current activity levels without gaining or losing weight) and then either add or subtract calories to gain or lose weight. There are all kinds of apps these days that let you do this fairly easily by simply scanning in the food you eat into a database. However, the theory of eating to a plan is simple. Carrying out the plan in real life, especially for college kids is difficult. This means you have to track everything you eat and drink (except water). This takes quite a time commitment. Trying to get 18-22 year olds in a college environment to eat a structured nutrition plan is near impossible even for motivated athletes due to the nature of being in college and the kind of social/cultural things that happen there.
Second, hypertrophy, is not the same as weight gain and there is no guarantee that simply adding calories over maintenance while participating in strength training regimen will produce gains in lean mass. The ability to hypertrophy is just as much of a genetic predisposition as naturally being muscular is. Some people got it and some don't. And, to even further muddy the waters those with a high natural amount of muscle without ever weight training also don't necessarily correlate to the ability to grow more muscle as a response to weight training. The discrepancy between high responders to weight training and low/no responders is significant. There is even evidence of folks that lose muscle mass despite being in a caloric surplus while resistance training.
My hunch is guys like Stribling or Terry Richardson are low responders and will likely always struggle to build muscle in response to resistance training unlike guys like Peppers or Frank Clark. Now, does that mean they can't grow? Only a research study which controls for other variables could tell us that. It’s not fair to judge a guy’s effort based purely on results because some could get better results with less effort and/or less adherence to a plan and just be a high responder while a low responder could potentially working their tail off and just not have the genetics for it.
Lastly, a college football S&C program doesn't really focus on hypertrophy. The way an athlete trains and a bodybuilder trains for example are quite different. Things like joint balance, core stability, agility, coordination, explosiveness, etc. are important to any athlete or football player. So, a football player has to spend a small amount of time working on improving a lot of different athletic traits. Hypertrophy training, the way a bodybuilder trains, is solely focused on building lean mass. They don't necessarily have to waste time doing all the other stuff. So, to make a long story short, while most athletes will add lean mass over the course of their college S&C training careers, they aren't training specifically for that alone and could likely put on way more if that's all they had to worry about. So, a guy that doesn’t put on much lean mass over his career may or may not be working hard & eating right (and the environment he’s in is not ideal for doing so). We don’t know.