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|4 days 17 hours ago||Feel bad for the kid, but OSU will be fine||
They still have Thomas at WR, Miller at H-back, and Elliot, plus two proven QBs. I think they will be just fine, especially considering they have a pretty good offensive line to make holes and a great defense on the other side of the ball. It's so annoying, but they are stacked.
|5 days 22 hours ago||Question on Morris||
Although I've provided some reasons why we shouldn't be counting Morris out so quickly in previous threads, the practice buzz lately seems to indicate that Morris is still too inconsistent and Ruddock is our guy this year. My question is do QBs who have obvious arm talent, but lack consistency typically figure it out? Or is being accurate and being able to read defenses just something you have or don't have? Despite being a phenomenal runner and having a decent arm Denard never seemed to improve at this. Neither did Gardner. Caveots about the offensive line, coordinators, etc. apply. But, Coonr Cook improved, didn't he? There was a time when I didn't think he was anything special. Although he still misses guys, he also throws some great balls. Can Morris improve his accuracy and his ability to read defenses and check down or is he a lost cause? Or am I oversimplifying it?
|6 days 20 hours ago||I'd guess it's hard to RS a||
I'd guess it's hard to RS a bunch of guys when you turn over coaching staffs every 3-4 years.
|6 days 20 hours ago||Maybe Conely, Webb, and Carwford will transfer to UM||
No...too soon? I'll be curious to see where they fall on this year's depth charts
|6 days 20 hours ago||Heard anything on route running and ball tracking?||
IMO Chesson's problem has never been his speed, the questions have been around his route running and tracking the ball. The route running can improve with work, I'm not sure ball tracking really does. That seems like a God-given ability or lack thereof. If you don't track the ball well that sort of dismisses speed because you can't track a long(er) pass, unless you can get the ball in space and outrun the defense.
|1 week 7 hours ago||Part of me agrees, but the||
Part of me agrees, but the game is played by the lines and the QB. They have impressive lines on both sides of the ball and a good QB. I think that's all they need, but they aren't gonna beat OSU if both teams are ready. Their key game is Oregon. If they beat Oregon, they deserve the ranking, if they don't, then they don't. We shall see. Then again, I didn't see 6-12 (minus ND) play that much. It's a shame they don't play ND, that would be another good comparison.
|1 week 18 hours ago||2 teams from TX in the top 5 and none of them are Texas||
And MSU is in the top 5 with UM unranked. What has happened to college football? I miss the 90s and early 00s.
|1 week 2 days ago||Sounds about right to me with 7-9 wins more likely||
Difficult games are Utah, BYU, Maryland, MSU, OSU, and PSU. Lose all of those games and you go 6-6. Although possible because our two toughest games are against our rivals and both at home, I don't think anyone seems us winning more than 10 games. I find it hard to believe that we sweep the three big state schools (OSU, MSU, and PSU). It seems likely that win 7-9 games with the smart money on 8, 7 seems a little pessimistic, and 9 seems a litlte optimisitc, although both well within the range of likely given all the question marks on offense. If the o-line is improved, the running game gets going, the QB can move the chains and doesn't turn the ball over, open recievers can catch the ball, the defensive is only slightly improved, and the special teams are average 9 or 10 wins is definitely do-able (plus we have to get by Utah so improvements have to be almost immediate). But, that's a lot of ifs.
|1 week 4 days ago||Lacking WR playmakers||
Yeah, I was thinking about this the other day...about how many playmakers we've had in the past ,IDK 25 years, versus how few we seem to have now. We've always seemed to have a Mercury Hayes, Derrick Alexander, Desmond Howard, Amani Toomer, Steve Breaston, Marquis Walker, David Terrell, Jason Avant, Mario Manningham, Brylan Edwards, Jeremy Gallon, Devin Funchess, etc. This is the first time in a while where we haven't had one of those type of guys on the roster. Maybe Cole or Harris will prove to be one, but it looks bleak. Our biggest offense playmakers look like out TEs ugh.
|1 week 4 days ago||What about free cars & making $10k signing stuff?||
So, allegedly you don't mind Pryor getting free cars? Yeah, I'm over certain violations, but when guys like Pryor or Manziel (allegedly) are making tens of thousands of dollars signing stuff that's a pretty big deal. You should be earning an extra $10,000/year as a student signing stuff just because you're popular unless of course we want to make it legal for everybody and place it into an account that the student-athlete can get after graduation. But, when a guy like Harbaugh refuses to break the rules, but others allow it, it puts them at a competitive disadvantage.
|1 week 4 days ago||I hear they have a phenomenal S&C coach||
You're welcome Dan!
|1 week 4 days ago||We'll see||
It's like the wise man once said, "we'll see". Predictions are fun and all, but time will tell how much talent we have and how much this staff can improve the bottom line this year. I'm as excited as the next fan, but I've been disapointed too many times for the better part of the last decade to get too excited before seeing any results, especially with so many unproven positions on offense.
|1 week 4 days ago||Although UM came up 3rd||
Although UM came up 3rd, we are pretty far behind OSU and MSU. I was also surprised how far ahead of PSU we are. Based on some other observations it seems like UM's defense is better equipped to defend pro-style offenses like MSU and PSU, but may have trouble with good spread teams like OSU.
I have no numbers to go by, but I get the feeling the MSU and PSU games will both be very close regardless of numbers. MSU, UM, and PSU all have stout defenses that will keep the games close. In addition the underdogs are playing at home with UM getting MSU at home and PSU getting UM at home which should keep those two games close, although PSU could have trouble with MSU in E. Lansing.
|1 week 4 days ago||Rooting for the better QB||
plain and simple, may the best man win. I'll root for whoever plays better.
|1 week 4 days ago||Was a hard game to be at||
Since I've lived in the NE for most of my life I've been relegated to watching UM in person at PSU. Prior to my adult life UM seemed to beat PSU every year. As soon as I started going to games they started losing to PSU. So I went to the UCONN game, which UM won, but barely. Then last year at Rutgers. Boy, was that a disappointment. We gave up so many big passing plays and 3rd and longs. It was depressing. Rutgers was not good and UM was worse. Boy do I look forward to the days when the Rutgers, Minnesotas, and Utahs of the world are penciled in Ws.
|1 week 5 days ago||What are we really getting at?||
IMO it's what programs are the most unethical. So, what plays the biggest role in being unethical...arrests, NCAA violations, roster management/oversigning, etc? I only bring this up because an OSU fan posted this because they weren't high on the list, but if you consider the other two they climb the list quickly.
|1 week 5 days ago||Wheatley||
Is it just me or does Wheatley have...hmmm let's say a different way of describing things? He was a phenomenal player. So far he seems like a really good recruiter. And, based on the interviews I've seen with the backs he seems like a good coach, although time will tell. But, when I listen to his video interviews or even read them I have a hard time understanding what he means. He seems to struggle to find the right words to convey his message and I'm often confused by what he's really getting at. Am I the only one that thinks this or am I just being to analytical/critical? I recognize Harbaugh probably wants the staff not to divulge too much, but I think this is more than that. I sometimes question whether or not to comment because any negative comment tends to get downvoted, but nevertheless this is an observation I have made and I wonder if anyone else notices.
|1 week 5 days ago||So many||
Favorite person, Denard. He is just such a good natured guy. Favorite player while at UM, Woodson. It's hard to compete with his dominance, Heisman, beating OSU, NC, etc. His one handed INT against MSU was one of my all-time fav UM plays. He knew he was the best player on the field every time he stepped onto the field regardless of who his opponent was. It's hard to not have him as your favorite. Favorite player that went to UM, Brady....not so much for what he did at UM, but what his success in the NFL does for UM, and his toughness. Favorite single game performance, Biakabutuka's '95 performance with 300+ yards to beat OSU. Favorite hair...JMFR while long. I also always really liked Darnell Hood and Brandon Minor who never quite accomplished what I thought they were capable of.
|1 week 6 days ago||Why are we so dismissive of Morris?||
Why are we so dismissive of Morris? We seem to all agree on a few things that make me question why we seem to be so dismissive of Morris. We all seem to agree that 1) Hoke's staff was not good at developing talent, 2) Morris has obvious arm talent, and 3) Harbaugh is good at developing QBs. Isn't that enough to believe that Morris still has the chance to be really good in the next two years?
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||I know, right?||
Lol I noticed that as I googled Pryor's listing before I posted. Gotta love listed HS/college heights/weights.
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||Just similar||
Pryor was probably a better athlete and Gentry is probably a better thrower, agreed, but there are similarities. Only time will tell, but the scouting report reminded me of how I recall Pryor as a college QB.
|2 weeks 2 hours ago||Terelle Pryor?||
Sounds a lot like lot Terelle Pryor. Tall, athletic, decent arm but throws a little funky, probably never be an NFL QB, but will be very effective in college and will cause lots of problems for opposing defenses.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||He won't stay injury-free||
I thought he was our best back last year and would love to eat my words, but based on my biomechanical assessment (very long and detailed lol) I believe he will have trouble staying injury free for an entire year.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Gedeon||
I'd echo a lot of others like Peppers, the QB, Isaac, Lewis, Henry, etc. But, of those not mentioned I'm excited about Gedeon. I think he's both our most talented and biggest LB. I don't think age/experience of the other LBs will be enough to keep him off the field. I'll bet he is at least a split starter in one of the LB spots.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||That stinks, feel bad for the young man||
Mone seems like a contributor for sure, but at least this is a position where we have good depth already. Next man up. We have other quality guys at DT that could include Henry, Hurst, Glasgow, Godin, and Wornley. Good luck to the young man. I'll be curious to see some specifics of the injury.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Punt/Kickoff Return?||
I know we have Peppers (but how how many positions can he play?), but Norfleet may or may not be gone. Even if his route running isn't perfect, but he's great at catching the ball and running with it, shouldn't he be a great return man? Did he do punt or kickoff returns in high school? I like the idea of a Steve Breaston. He was a phenomenal return man and was super fast, but didn't seem like the best route runner. I wouldn't mind another Breaston!
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Some good points, schedule is important to predict W/L record||
You make some good points. I like your points regarding the defense and o-line. However, I have a hard time believing Hack won't be really good this year unless his offensive line can't do anything. He's a highly ranked recruit, he has obvious talent, he has good recievers and tight ends. He passes the eye test, which I put more faith into than statistics.
Regarding predicting the success of PSU next season, one thing you didn't mention is their schedule is a cake walk. They play UM, MSU, and OSU, and that's it. Their next most difficult games are Northwestern, Maryland, and Rutgers. Their non-conference is Temple, Army, San Diego St., and Buffalo. That's four easy wins right off the bat. I doubt they lose to NW after having their worst home loss to them last year. Plus, NW is not very good. They won't beat OSU in Columbus and I doubt they beat MSU in E. Lansing the week after they play UM. So, you're right that UM is a swing game. If they beat UM, which we can all agree is pretty much a toss up, then yes they are probably a 10-win team. If they lose they are probably a 9-win team. I'm sure they could slip up against Indiana, Maryland, or Illinois (who they seem to struggle with for some reason), but those would be surprise upsets. But, they are a 9/10 win team in my mind based mostly on the fact that they play a cupcake schedule.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||We lost to them the past two||
We lost to them the past two years pretty soundly, however both games were played @ MSU. In 2014 we turned the ball over 3 times, one of which was a pick-6. No real excuse for 2013 as we were dominated by their defense and couldn't do anything, again it was on the road. We narrowly beat them at home in 2012. Going back much further is futile. I think all 3 of those MSU teams were better than 2015 and I think UMs 2015 is better than all those previous UM teams. I'm certain it will be a closeer game, it's just a matter of can we do enough to win.
Maybe Cook is as good as the scouts think. I agree Conklin is phenomenal as a LT. Maybe I want to believe that recruiting stars mean something and that the only thing our upperclassman 4-star recruits need is a swift kick in the a*s and Harbaugh, Drevno, and Drukin are just the guys to do that. This is the first year we are playing mostly 3rd, 4th, and 5th year players. Our entire o-line is back. The only underclassman that are projected starters is Mason Cole who was a freshman all american and Peppers who is well...Peppers. Everyone else is an upperclassman with experience. When was the last time you could say that?
I feel like Lewis is a star this year, Peppers is a real difference maker, the rest of the defense is solid as a rock. I think the d-line takes a big step forward and that Wormley, Henry, Mone, and Charlton will be a handful. I think we have a lot of good LBs even though I think the most talented ones are Gedeon and McCray, hopefully they actually play this year. I think playing at home will make a huge difference especially at night. I do agree that our offensive skill positions are a huge question mark. We really need the QB to not turn the ball over and some WRs to step up. IMO this game all comes down to how far our o-line has progressed. Can they protect the QB and create holes to run through? It's as simple as that. I think the answer is yes.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Maybe it's just me||
I don't know, maybe I'm putting too much stock into 2014 and 2012. Maybe I look at 2 of the last 3 meetings and see an unranked PSU team making a close game agaisnt the #1 and #3 team in the nation. Maybe hindsight is 20/20 and I have the ability of seeing the team at the end of the year versus who we thought they were when the game actually occured. But, it seems like in 2 of the last 3 years two very average PSU teams gave two very good OSU teams a good game that they had a chance of winning, when looking at their records and rankings they had no business winning.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||OSU/MSU & roster now vs future||
I can't imagine that we lose to both OSU and MSU at home under Harbaugh. The realist in me looks at the talent on the roster of OSU, and unless they have serious injuries or lose guys for violations it's hard to see us winning that game. Although MSU also appears to be the favorite on paper I think UM wins this game. The gap between MSU and UM is not big enough to overcome UM at home under Harbaugh assuming we have somewhat decent QB and RB productivity and don't turn the ball over. I expect to have those things sorted out by mid-season. I also expect them to make this a night game, which should help.
The hard part about projecting an upswing in year 2, 3, 4 etc. is that our roster is built to win now. We don't lose much next year that isn't replacable. Wilson should be replacable with either Hill or Kinnel. Ross, Bolden/Morgan are replacable with Gedeon and McCray. Ojemudia is replacable with Marshall. We only lose Glasgow and Ruddock next year offensively. There are plenty of young(er) offensive players that you'd expect to jump in and contribute in a few years like Gentry, Harris, Cole, Bunting, Dawson, Kugler, and LTT. The real concerns would be if Peppers and Lewis left early. Then, we lose a ton on defense in year 3 of Harbaugh. Not having Wormely, Charlton, Glasgow, Henry, Gedeon, McCray, Lewis, and likely Peppers is gonna hurt. I'm really worried about our defense in Harbaugh's 3rd year unless a lot of these recruits are better than their rankings. I don't see a ton of playmakers.