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|4 hours 46 min ago||Love, but what's the value?||
I love that JH is kinda doing an eff you to the NCAA. But, what is the real value? In Fla and AL there were legitimate recruiting benefits. What's the benefit of this? I guess there's the pitch to future recruits that a trip like this is possible. What do you see as the real value to our team?
|1 day 6 hours ago||That's still 5 years||
If we only get 2 good ones each year it, assuming it takes at least 2 years before he is ready to really do anything more than just be there, it will take 5 years before we have 5 guys ready to contribute.
|1 week 1 day ago||I hated that cycle||
This is precisely the reason I got out of being a college strength coach. You have to move way too frequenty in order to make a living in this business. There just isn't often much coaching stability in P5 football. I don't personally understand the lure, especially for someone that already makes well into six figures and played in the NFL. I'll take my modest teacher salary, work a 40-hr work week, leave work at 3pm every day, and have nights, weekends, and holidays to enjoy life rather than work any day. But, to each his own.
Whatever he decides I'm glad we had him as long as we did and I hate to see him go, but wish him luck in his journey.
|1 week 2 days ago||Its more than weight||
Two things come to mind. One, there is more to moving the guy across from you than weight. Malik McDowell is 275 and routinely moves people back 20-50 lbs heavier than him. He is not particular big, muscular, nor has an intimidating frame for his position. Granted, all other things being equal, adding more body weight helps, but all other things are never equal and a guy that is stronger, more explosive, has better technique, is tough, and can identify who to block is much better than simply a larger guy that isn't as good at the other things. You won't find many better bodies than Braden at 6'6" and 335 lbs at a good body composition. He's also fast and strong for his position. But, he's still an average lineman. McDowell will eat Braden's lunch every time despite giving up 50 pounds of size and probably quite a bit of strength.
Second, dentifying who to block and getting to the second level is another problem we've had. Many of the o-line, and particularly Kalis it seems, really has trouble identifying who to block. Kalis is a big, strong, intense, and powerful young man, but he's not a great lineman because he never knows who to block, which slows him down and takes away his aggression. None of our lineman do a particularly good job at getting to the second level which is one of the reasons why we rarely break big runs.
|1 week 2 days ago||I thought OL repped at multiple positions just for this reason||
I thought that many of these guys repped at multiple positions so that if someone went down they can capably move to another position without a huge dropoff in their own performance, which may be easier than a first time starter moving somewhere new(er). Isn't that sort of the philosophy around "the best 5 start"? Shouldn't a 4th or 5th year guy be capable of moving from LG to LT or vice versa? I can understand a true freshman struggling anywhere.
But, I guess if the LG, in this case Braden, was only an average LG, then asked to move to LT, where he becomes below average, that makes sense. It's not like asking Steve Hutchinson to move from LG to LT. I guess it's just disaponting. Oh well. Hopefully Harbaugh can get the ship right in another recruiting cycle and year of experience.
|1 week 5 days ago||Transfer where?||
I think we all know he's not currently enrolled at UM, but it's unclear from the post whether or not LTT is considering transferring back to UM or somewhere else.
|1 week 6 days ago||DPJ||
Will be a great way for an explosive true freshman who is physically ready, but may not know the whole playbook yet to make an immediate impact before he steps into the full time starting WR role.
|1 week 6 days ago||Not a lot of consistency in||
Not a lot of consistency in how they rank them. Same with USC being ahead of UW, who they beat, but had more losses than.
|1 week 6 days ago||I disagree (about PSU, not||
I disagree (about PSU, not about underperforming down the stretch). If PSU plays OSU in Columbus do you think they win that game? If we play PSU again do you think they beat us? Do you think PSU beats FSU?
Personally I think PSU got hot and we played some bad matchups for us down the stretch. McSorley is a very streaky QB. I think head to head we beat them consistently because of the difference on lines and our DBs neutralize their strengths. Does that mean we had the better season, no (but I think there's another argument for that).
|1 week 6 days ago||Yeah, but hard to say that about this year||
I hear ya, but one could easily make an argument UM should be 3, 4, or 5 this year. USC has 3 losses.
And, let's face it, we lost one game on a call that could go either way, one on a last second field goal, and another by 1 pt.
Your comment would not be my sentiment after this season, years past sure, but not this year.
|1 week 6 days ago||Yeah, doesn't seem consistent||
Agree, not sure how they jump UW. I know they beat them head to head, but USC had one more loss. If they are playing that argument UM should be ahead of PSU & Wiscy. Sometimes I think the rest of the world hates UM.
|1 week 6 days ago||Those are circumstantial reasons||
I don't buy that argument. You're looking at the conference argument, not the total season. If you look at the total season you'd have to say UM is the better team.
They have more wins, but they had more opportunities. How does one know UM wouldn't have won an additional game if we didn't have one? And, don't say because we didn't earn the right to an extra game because we both had the same number of losses and beat them both head-to-head. Just becasue one team happend to be in a different division and the other team lost one of their games to an out of conference opponent doesn't make them a better team.
We beat both of them, lost the same number of games, and had a more difficult schedule. Those are the only 3 numbers I need to know.
FWIW S&P and Sagarin agree UM is better.
|1 week 6 days ago||Texas||
We really need to tap into Texas. Of course OSU is recruiting TX well :/
|1 week 6 days ago||Totally agree, same with the RBs||
I agree. I'm not saying guys like Hand or Harris should have chosen Michigan. But, I don't understand the lure of likely winning a NC if that means you may never really even get 1st team snaps. I'd rather go to UM (or any other quality school) that maybe has only an outside shot at a NC, but will still be a quality ranked team, and be able to be a star there, but that's just me. But, that's what "happy trails, hope he likes playing for Saban" means I guess. They made their choice and now they have to live with it. I wonder if they are happy about thier choice looking back.
|1 week 6 days ago||Bama & Clemson were definately better than UM||
UM could have easily been #3. After the top 2, there is a lot of parity. Not much difference between top ten and top 25 teams IMO. I still don't get the PSU argument to be ahead of UM, but oh well.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||All competition caveots apply||
But, from just a pure phsyical/talent standpoint I am really excited about Samuels. I know everyone wanted Harris, and I know the guys is rated as the #1 RB overall for a reason, but I personally look at those two athletes (Samuels & Harris) and I am much more excited about Samuels potential. He may not be as good as a true freshman as Harris will and may take more time to develop, but I think he's an elite talent and will have the kind of speed, playmaking, and athleticism that we haven't seen from a RB at UM since the guy that now coaches them.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||OSU/UM matchup next year||
It's hard to imagine their offense being that great next year unless they have someone that did not contribute this season that turns out to be really good. I don't think you can expect that out of true freshman. Our first string defense shouldn't have to worry much. I doubt Barrett is good enough to test our young secondary, especially with our d-line in his face all day. If we get injuries on the other hand, look out.
Their defense on the other hand is going to give our offensive line fits. I'm not sure who is going to block their DEs ugh. :/ But, we should be able to keep it close, and at home against a rival, anything can happen.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||I'm starting to like our chances better next year||
Granted, they still have to be the favorite, but they are looking much more beatable without Sameuels, Hooker, Conley, McMillan, and likely Lattimore.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Too bad, good luck to him, we'll be fine, & let's destroy him||
It's too bad we didn't get him because he's a great player, but if he didn't want to be in AA, then we don't really want him. Let's wish him luck and have fun playing for Saban, enjoy the fact that we have an already loaded backfield and are adding Walker & Sameuls next year already. We will be fine without him because we have Harbaugh et al. And, if we ever get the chance to play him down the road hopefully Singleton, Anthony, Ross, Vilain, etc. can give him some good, clean, hard shots, then help him up, pat him on the butt, and let him see what he missed.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Great class, still frustrating looking around the landscape||
I want to be excited for this class because it's going to be great. Having guys like DPJ, McCaffrey, Ruiz, Fillaga, Thomas, Singleton, Vilian, etc. are gonna be awesome. But I can't help but be somewhat frustrated at the same time that OSU's will be so much better and that we seemed to think for quite a while this was the #3 class only to be out-finished by teams like Georgia and possibly FSU. It's seems like many of our great classes that start out in the 2-3 range end up finishing in the 6-7 range as other teams in the south and OSU finish stronger. I can't understand how OSU gets so many great safeties and we can't one ugh anyways.
For a while thought mainly that was the record and coaching, but now that we have Harbaugh, consecutive 10-win seasons, and Georgia is sitll finishing hotter than us with an 8-5 season, I think it's probably just more geography. Maybe Smart will cool off in another year or two if his record doesn't improve, but my hunch is it will improve. I guess if you win at OSU's level that mitigates the mid-west geography issue for the national-level recruits, but we aren't quite there yet. Simply a 10 win season isn't quite enough, at least yet.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||He's already won championships||
In all fairness, it's probably a lot easier to leave when you've won both conference and national championships and you're beating your rivals regularly. It's those who love UM and haven't won those yet that are torn I think.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||That's social media for ya||
On the one hand if someone is thoughtless/impulsive enough to make public inflammatory statements it's likely they will get them in return on social media. Right on wrong on either part, it has to be expected.
On the other hand, it's unfortunate that a kid is in the spotlight before he's mature enough to understand it.
That being said, I think the impulsivity, attention seeking behavior, rebelliousness, and gregarious personality traits are often highly associated with risk taking behavior, which has the potential to cause issues if not focused in productive ways.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||FYI on post subjects||
All posts without a mention of a sport in them are assumed football.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm glad||
I for one don't mind JT coming back, and I'm also glad Weber went to OSU. For the first time in a while, when you combine those two with their poor offensive line, I don't think we really fear that offense. Barrett is solid and can make plays with both his feet and his arm, but he isn't going to burn you with his feet all day like a Pryor and he isn't going to burn you with his arm either, especially if you can limit the running game. Weber is another one that is solid, but not exactly a big play maker like an Elliot.
Without either a dominant offensive line, a playmaker like Samuels, or a dominant defense, this offense does not evoke fear in defenses.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Hard to predict next year||
I don't see how we don't take a step back seeing how much we graduate and that our schedule will be more difficult. That being said, the d-line should still be stout, but look out if we get an injury. Same with the LBs. My bigger worry is with the DBs. Can we count on Clark being 100% less than a year after an ACL tear? I doubt it. Can we count on first and second year CBs (Hill, Long, St. Juste, & Thomas) to be anywhere near the caliber of Lewis & Stribling? I doubt it. Can we count on Kinnel and Watson, Metellus, and Hudson to be as good as Hill & Thomas? Maybe not at the start of the year, but I think they'll be fine.
Whoever is our QB should be better than this year, even if it's Speight with another year of experience. Chesson & Darboh were servicable this year, I can't imagine we can't replace their production with Harris, Crawford, McDoom, & DPJ. We will miss Butt, but we have plenty of capable guys at TE. Evans, Higdon, Isaac, Walker, Samuels, etc. will be an improvement at RB I think. It really all comes down to the o-line. Can Bredeson & Onwenu develop fast enough to be capable in their second years? Will Newsome be back? Can we get anything out of JBB or Kugler? Will any true freshman be capable of being anything above not terrible? Maybe Ruiz, but unless you are an elite o-line recruit, being a true freshman sucks. Cole will be fine.
I have to assume our cieling is 10 wins and 8-9 is probably more realistic. But, it should be a great year to gain experience. I expect a good year from Evans, the TEs, and the d-line. Gary will blow up. If Mone is healthy he should have a big year as should Hurst. It will be hard to decide who to double. That may give Winovich a lot of sacks. We'll probably see some flashes from guys like DPJ & the young DBs. I bet a true freshman sees some time at LB. But, there are probably going to be some growing pains with the DBs and the o-line especially. But, I am sort of looking forward to having a young team with Harbaugh without a ton of expectations and seeing how we can develop these young guys. Assuming Harbaugh sticks around we will have the chance to put together several consecutive top 10 recruiting classes, which is where we will finally be able to have talent and depth without holes in classes because of coaching changes or dwindling records.
|3 weeks 5 hours ago||Brady is dynamic in his ability to play QB||
You wouldn't call sitting in the pocket, side stepping or stepping up in the pocket to avoid pressure, reading the defense accurately, and making big plays in key situations (he wasn't called the comeback kid for nothing) dynamic? Brady is dynamic throwing the ball, Pryor was dynamic with his feet, both were dynamic, but in different ways.
|3 weeks 10 hours ago||Speight is our QB||
I'd be very surprised if Speight isn't our QB next year. O'Korn is older and has more experience. If he didn't win the job last year I can't imagine what's changed that will allow him to win it next year. It's reasonable to assume Speight will continue to improve as this was his first year starting.
The more likely players to dethrown Speight are Peters next year and McCaffrey in another year after that. But, I still think we have Speight for 2 years (McCaffrey RS), Peters for 2 years, then McCaffrey for 2 years.
|3 weeks 10 hours ago||This is what happens||
Years from now no one remembers why you lost, they just see the W/L records and there's nothing anyone can do to take away that win from OSU or give it to us. It's gone forever. That's why it was so heartbreaking. Losing 3 games by 5 points counts the same as losing 3 by 50 points, unless you're looking as Sagarin
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||Peppers, Gary, DPJ||
Peppers, Gary, DPJ. So far there just aren't enough of them and not in the same classes, but they are there.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||Clemson's class rankings the past 4 years (ESPN)||
2013: 13th (OSU 3rd, UM 6th)
2014: 12th (OSU 7th, UM 18th)
2015: 4th (OSU 6th, UM 40th)
2016: 8th (OSU 5th, UM 6th)