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|5 hours 30 min ago||When's the last time you've seen them in person?||
I have a lot of PA friends and have been to last 2 games in State College. I sported colors proudly, but was with friends from PA. I got heckled in the parking lot and some guys were pretty bad coming out of the stadium. But, at the bars and restaurants and in the stadium it was great. But, watching UM teams lately is pretty frustrating. This is no news flash, but it dapens your mood a bit when you make such an investment of time and money to see the game. It's a bit easier to get over the poor play at home. Anyways, my point is I am not going to another stadium when it requires such a trip until I am a little more confident the team will look good. I'm not gonna sit there for 3 hours and be frustrated by the fact that they can't run the ball to save their lives. I'd personally save myself the frustration. If you do go, go for the experience and be happy with just hanging out with your friends and seeing a game...don't require a win to enjoy yourself.
|1 day 3 hours ago||Yes!||
That I will agree with! It says much more of the lactate threshold than it does maximum strength or power.
|1 day 16 hours ago||His bench press is pretty||
His bench press is pretty impressive. But, bench press is not a power exercise nor is it an indicator of being powerful as the article said...that was my issue. A better indicator of power would be like a hang clean, a vertical jump, a broad jump, or a short sprint. Personally I'd take a kid with good footwork, good change of direction, long arms, and good balance over a good bench press any day.
|1 day 16 hours ago||I like the sound of that! I||
I like the sound of that! I really don't know a lot about the kid, but he sounds like a great prospect and has a pretty impressive list of offers. I just get irked with the mis-representation/understanding of strength and performance and how it relates to sports.
|1 day 16 hours ago||It almost always depends||
LOL, thanks for the compliment! There are very few hard and fast rules when it comes to exercise science. As Brad Schoenfeld said "In an applied science like exercise/nutrition, the answer to virtually every question is it depends. Never and always rarely apply."
|1 day 16 hours ago||There are a few problems with||
There are a few problems with that logic. One, how do you define overall strength and how does the strength of one movement correlate to others if you account for body mass? Two, strength is not a very good indicator of football playing ability when it comes to 1-repetition maximum lifts like squats, benches, deadlifts, hang cleans, etc. Three,bench press, like any exercise is all about technique and biomechanics. I doubt many people would say that David Molk is stronger than Ndamukong Suh, yet Molk did 41 reps on the bench and Suh did 32. Having short arms is beneficial to a bench press, however having long arms is beneficial to almost every position in football. I'm not saying this kids bench press numbers are not impressive...they are. I'm just saying it is not a very useful judge of much other than being good at bench pressing.
|1 day 23 hours ago||A few points||
My first question is why did they stop recruiting Cornell because of his weight and potential projection to DT, when it seems like Roseboro is heavier? Second, the bench press is one of the worst indicators of football ability. And third, 32 repetitions on a bench press says nothing of his "power" despite the article's reference to it.
|2 days 2 hours ago||Baxter you know I don't speak Spanish||
Honestly, I have no idea how to assess that. Until we see guys that were recruited by this staff go through their entire 4-5 years in the program it's a little short-sighted to judge. I think we will learn a little more this year, and granted it doesn't seem great so far, but it's also a little short-sighted to judge at this point. Check back with me after 2015.
|2 days 2 hours ago||A few items of note||
One thing is that we will not likely be trotting out all guys in their third or higher year. It seems generally accepted that we will go Mags (3rd yr), Bosch (2nd year), Glasgow (4th yr), Kalis (3rd yr), and either Braden(3rd yr)/Dawson (2nd yr)/Cole (1st yr). So, assuming Bosch, Dawson, or Cole is in there we are not all 3rd year or older guys. The other main point is that although you'd expect guys like Dawson, Kalis, Bosch, and Mags to be more than adaquate in their 3rd year, that would assume that there are 2-3 4th or 5th year guys around them. When they are surrounded by other 3rd year guys it's not quite the same. The final point is yes, the coaches wouldn't recruit a kid if they didn't believe in him. But, that's also a bit of a starry-eyed view. It assumes the coaches always get their top choices. Kalis, Bosch, Dawson, and Cole are all highly rated recruits, Mags isn't exactly a scrub either. Glasgow is a walk on and Braden is a guy that was probably taken because he was the best available option rather than the best player. That 2012 class of o-lineman was not the best and Braden is not in the same class as the others based on his recruiting rankings. He is a giant, but based on his recruiting rankings and his lack of playing time so far, I'd guess he still needs more time to develop.
|2 days 22 hours ago||If I'm hearing you right||
If I'm hearing you right, then you are confident that our 3rd year guys (Kalis, Mags, & Braden) should be quality starters albeit not stars, and our 2nd year guys (LTT, Bosch, Dawson, & Fox) should be servicable if needed this year?
|2 days 22 hours ago||Knew I shouldn't have spoken off memory||
So, now I had to go back and find the write up. It said that Jansen, Hutchinson, Backus, Long, and Lewan were "solid" as soph/jr and "stars" as jr/sr and 5th year. It goes on to predict Glasgow and Mags will be solid, whereas Bosch, Kalis, and whoever plays RT will be a liability. But, if I'm reading it correctly there seems like quite a bit of varience in the prediction, but it doesn't look great with so few 4th and 5th year guys. The good news is there is a decent chance the same group will be pretty good in another year or two.
|3 days 50 min ago||It's just experience IMO||
I get the sense that you could probably point out things they weren't doing that seem very basic in a number of different scenarios. I think the bottom line here is they were overwhelmed. That's what happens when you put guys in that aren't ready. It's a lack of confidence, things happening too quickly, the inability to dissect stuff fast enough, too much new material at once, paralysis by analysis, etc. It's like the example of the rider and the elephant popularized by the Heath borthers when trying to change behavior. The rider is the logical, rational part of the brain that wants to change and the elephant is the emotional pain/pleasure part of the brain that wants comfort. The rider can control the elephant as long as the amount of change is small. But, when there is too much new change being asked to occur at once the tiny rider is helpless against the giant overwhelmed elephant that cannot process so much new, uncomfortalbe, change at once because it feels like it's constantly self monitoring, self assessing, analyzing, and getting critical feedback. All those things take a toll mentally and emotionally so it's hard to do too much of that at once. (I may have butchered that example off the top of my head, but I think you get the gist.) This is why behavior change is a process, even in motor skills. Anways, that was a long way of saying that IMO it's a simple experience problem that only time and experience can fix. You can only learn so many new things at once before you get overwhelmed. It's just unforutnate that they are beings asked to learn in games instead of practice.
|3 days 1 hour ago||OSU's offense||
I get the feeling we were so uselesses against OSU's offense last year due to the strength of their o-line and of course Hyde. With both of those things gone I don't think we have as much difficulty defending their offense, do you? That being said, our o-line vs their d-line will become a larger problem now that we no longer have NFL tackles to defend their ends Spence, Bosa, and Washington.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Here's the problem with assigning blame to the coaches||
The hard part about that is most offensive lineman aren't servicable until their 3rd year and aren't good until their 4th and 5th year in the system. There was a good diary on here that took a look back at former great UM o-lineman and their track records over the years. If I recall correctly it suggested that even Hutchinson who is possibly the best lineman ever to come through UM was a redshirt his first year, was a liability his second year, was competent his 3rd year, then was great his 4th and 5th year. So, you're expecting guys to be good in their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd year, who history says even great o-lineman are not. We only have one project starter (Glasgow) not in his first 3 years. So, even though I want some accountability as much as you, if history suggests o-lineman won't be good in their first 3 years how can we say it's the coaches fault? At best we're hoping for a servicable o-line because we will have on no 5th year guys, one 4th year guy, 2-3 3rd year guys, and 1-2 1st or 2nd year guys. Until they have a line that consists of the majority of 4th and 5th year guys you simply can say it's the coaches fault IMO. And, that won't happen until 2015 at the earliest and maybe not even until 2016 if some of the younger guys like Cole leapfrom guys Braden.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Can that mentality work with today's youth?||
Do you think you can get away with that today? I'm not saying you can't, but with the power and popularity that the internet and recruiting services has given recruits, I get the sense that the top kids expect to come in and play. If you don't show you're willing to play freshman if they are good I kinda doubt the Jabrill Peppers of the world come to your school. Then again, Saban seems to do it, so idk.
|3 days 1 hour ago||2012 ND?||
Makes me think of 2012 ND team. They seemed completely overmatched against Bama and had no business in that game. But, they won a ton of games by winning the turnover margin.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Of course||
There's more than one way to skin a cat so to speak. And, I think you're right that things seem to be trending less and less to run the football, own time of possession, and play great defense. There's more and more spread football which makes it harder and harder to shut down your opponent. That being said, teams like Bama and Stanford still pretty much do this and are hard to beat.
Ultimately you can control the clock in a way by scoring a lot. But, I get the sense that controlling the clock was more about controlling time of possession. In that way Oregon is acutally fighting aginst it by trying hurry up, whereas other teams are trying to use up the clock to control it and wear out the opponents defense. You can win either way...simply score more often than your oppenent and do so quickly like Oregon does it. You don't neccessarily have to win time of possession that way. But, if you're simply ahead on the scoreboard you can also grind out slow drives, eat up clock, wear down your opponent, and win with your defense. Both approaches can work. Teams like Oregon and Texas Tech do the former and teams like Stanford and Bama do the latter. But, I'm guessing the latter more akin to what the article meant.
|3 days 3 hours ago||So, why can't they beat Stanford then?||
If that's the case why can't they beat Stanford who seems to do exactly what this list is about and seems to give Oregon fits.
|3 days 3 hours ago||Tell that to Oregon||
Scoring fast and often seems to work pretty well for them.
|3 days 3 hours ago||Harris seems to be trending OSU||
It's nice to have the local kid, but based on the clips I've seen Harris the better athlete and player. But, based on his comments about being good friends with Hilliard and being interested in playing with him, I get the feeling Harris is headed towards OSU. Losing a national recruit to Ohio who was a former UM commit really hurts, but it seems to be trending that way. But, hopefully Scott going to MSU helps UM with Webber. I get the feeling that Harris going to OSU will hurt UM on the field though. I think he's a difference maker...oh well.
|3 days 15 hours ago||Not jumping on him, just making a point of something I enjoy||
For my part I don't think I'm jumping on him as I mentioned I think he's still a good coach and appreciated a number of things on the show despite my critique of his exercise science understanding. I may not have said anything, but he made a similar mis-diagnosis of another exericse science theory during his TED talk, so it seems like a trend for him to speak first and think second. Ultimately, it's no biggie, but this stuff is my passion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing if you see somone mis-speaking on a topic you're passionate about, you'd probably make a note of it too, no?
|3 days 21 hours ago||Sorry for length, but it needs to be said||
Muscle hypertrophy is separate from muscle hyperplasia. During hypertrophy, contractile elements enlarge and the extracellular matrix expands to support growth. In contrast, hyperplasia results in an increase in the number of fibers within a muscle. How exactly this occurs from resistance training is still considered theoretical, but most accept 3 primary factors that are responsible for initiating the hypertrophic response to resistance training: mechanical tension, muscle damage, and metabolic stress.
Mechanical tension is produced by force generation and stretch. Mainly it is governed by the intensity or load placed upon the body. It is believed that the tension associated with resistance training disturbs the integrity of skeletal muscle causing molecular and cellular responses in the myofibers and satellite cells that results in a slew of events that result in hypertrophy of which are not totally understood by science. Metaboliic stress manifests as a result of exercise that relies on anaerobic glycoloysis for ATP production which creates a building up of metabolites which can produce a hypertrophic effect. This process is believed to be due more to the accumulation of those metabolites and is less about intensity or load placed on the body. And, muscle damage is theorized to occur due to tear(s) in the sarcolemma and supportive tissue which induces injury to the contractile elements. This creates an inflammatory response that leads to a release of growth factors and satellite cell proliferation and differentiation, which in addition to satellite cell activity is believed to mediate muscle growth.
From there you can look at manipulating variables of resistance training such as intensity, volume, rest intervals, repetition speed, muscle failure, exercise selection, etc. in order to best achieve a hypertrophic response. All of this is somewhat theoretical as science cannot at this time point to clear mechanisms for hypertrophy and what types of resistance training variables are responsible for which. However with all that said, most exercise science folks would generally consider what Barwis is doing a combination of muscular endurance training (lots of volume with very little rest) and circuit training (going from one exercise to the another with no rest in-between). This will absolutely cause muscle damage and metabolic stress, but the loads are less likely to cause significant mechanical stress. Practical recommendations for hypertrophy training tend to employ a repetition range of 6-12 reps per set with rest intervals of 60-90 seconds between sets with exercises varied in a multiplanar, multiangled fashion to ensure maximal stimulation of all muscle fibers. In addition, multiple sets should be employed, often carried to the point of concentric muscle failure. Finally, concentric reps should be performed relative fast while eccentric repetitions should be performed at slower speeds.
This is the current model for what is considered hypertrophy training. That being said any resistance training could technically be called hypertrophy training in that it has the ability to have a hypertrophic response. But, a phase of training that focuses extremely high volumes with very low rest is generally considered muscular endurance, despite its ability to have a hypertrophic effect. Any S&C text and the NSCA CSCS certification next to his name would also follow this logic.
|3 days 22 hours ago||D1 Football S&C Coaches vs Other Sports||
IMO D1 football S&C coaches seem to rely too much on being a cheerleader and not enough on sound training principles. I realize they are a coach and they must be able to motivate and coach, but football culture specifically seems to like loud men that yell a lot and are often former football players and are not always as good of strength coaches as some of the other sports, they are just louder.
|4 days 4 hours ago||What makes someone's knowledge credible?||
That begs the question, what makes someone's knowledge of exercisce science credible? Is it your job, your education, your certifications, your reputation, etc.? IMO There are some great D1 football S&C coaches out there, but there are also some guys that rely way more on the volume of their voice than the soundness of their training principles. If your business is training athletes and you're not investing time in research and continuing your education on a regular basis you're doing your athletes a dis-service (not saying Barwis isn't here).
Lending to the thought that non-DI football S&C coaches are often more well versed in science...BTW in case anyone didn't know UM's Oly Sports S&C ( basically all sports but basketball and football) staff is doing some pretty good things and Mike Favre who coaches women's soccer, wrestling, and volleyball was the coach of the year.
|4 days 4 hours ago||I agree with everything he said||
It's hard to disagree with much. The challenges won't be fixed at UM and the records won't change until the o-line gets older and only time fixes that. Hopefully they improve, but they won't be good this year. But, I do think some of the talent there like Funchess, Gardner, Peppers, Lewis, Ryan, etc. will generate a little more buzz that continues to keep recruits interested. It may be hard to pull national top 100 kids out of the south or the west, but they'll continue to recruit the mid-west just fine.
|4 days 4 hours ago||Hitch||
Yeah, I didn't realize he had that hitch in his throw. Those are hard to fix since I'm guessing he's been throwing that way since he was like 5. Tim Tebow couldn't really get rid of his. I'm not sure you can totally change something like that...it is what it is.
|4 days 14 hours ago||That's his words though||
They don't have to show the science. That doesn't excuse Barwis not understanding it...he shouldn't have to have his knowledge edited...thats basic stuff. I'm probably nit picking here, but I'v heard him say inaccurate things regarding science theories before. As an exercise science guy that irks me a bit, but big picture, he seems like an awesome dude and great coach despite this. Still seems like a cool show. I'm definitely tuning in!
|4 days 14 hours ago||Love the attitude question the science||
Love the attitude, intensity, and obvious care for the athletes he works with. I really liked seeing all the former UM football players. And, I really liked seeing Sherman help a young player. But, I seriously question his understanding of exercise science. "Hypertrophy is all about high repetions with no rest." I'm not sure the research would support that claim. That style of training has value, especially with atheltes and in team environments, but it's not hypertrophy training.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Sure, but do you assume any guy passes?||
While I agree that of course the best player will play and at some point some underclassman is bound to leapfrog an older guy on the depth chart, there is no one guy that you can't point to and suggest that's the case with. If you look at the history of UM QBs 1990-RR running a pro-style it goes Grbac, Collins, Dreisbach, Greise, Brady, Hensen, Navarre, Henne. How many of those guys leapfrogged an older established QB that started the year before without getting injuried? I feel like Henson maybe initially started over Brady, but he eventually took over the starting role. I know Henne and Navarre both started as freshman, but I'm drawing a blank on who was ahead of them, maybe Gonzalez but he never started.
Anyways, the point wasn't to predict the future lineage of the QB position, but rather to note there's little pressure on him because of the depth ahead of him.
|4 days 23 hours ago||Rivalries||
That would be both tremendous, optimisitc, and super annoying at the same time. It would be tremendous to win all the games we think they should be favored in. It would be optimistic to expect to think they have the consistency to do that however. But, it would be super annoying to lose to all 3 rivals, especiallly in the last game against ND and the with all the talent MSU loses on defense. Personally with the importance these coaches put on the rivalries I don't see them dropping all three, even though I beleive all three are better teams. But, I also don't think this team has the consistency on offense to win the other 9.