Unless the pieces don't gel well after the initial part of the season I really don't think it will be that rough. With Goldin you are looking at a team with more talent certainly than some teams that were in the tournament last year being coached by a good coach. Tournament is becoming a very reasonable possibility. If I had to make a bet right now I would bet on them making the tournament honestly.
100% disagree on CB2, you have good young talent there, one or two will emerge as a good player. I have zero doubt about that. It is a little funny for a program that has been great with player development that people still doubt it will occur at spots where you have good young talent, it is bizarre to me quite frankly. You aren't going to have a proven starter from the prior season at every position but that doesn't necessarily mean you need a portal guy for every one of those positions.
With Goldin and one more add, NIT is probably the floor, with NCAA tournament in the realm of possibility now depending on how well the pieces gel. There were definitely teams in the tournament with less talent than this one assuming you get Goldin and another add. Though obviously there should be patience if they don't make it but it is definitely becoming more reasonable to think they have a shot.
Pretty damn impressive what May has done with the roster given the smoldering crater it was, definitely tournament bid is not out the question at all now if Goldin comes and depending on how well the pieces gel.
I mean the scouting report in BC is that they finish at an absurd rate. They haven't got many high quality chances but have pretty much scored on every single one of them. UM hasn't played poorly, but they needed a near perfect game and haven't got it.
Umm they literally had to take a tripping penalty caused by an odd looking mishandle at one point. So yes BC is having some issues with it too. But objectively UM has had more offensive zone possession time.
That is not true, they literally had to take a tripping penalty caused by a puck mishandle and have also fanned on a couple shots in a very odd manner.
I mean Duke has the right to that space on the ice just as the BC player does. The BC player literally just ran straight into Duke's skate with his skate, Duke made zero motion to create any contact. That is one of the worst calls I have ever seen in a hockey game point blank.
I honestly don't think BC is playing great at all or really overwhelming UM whatsoever. Give them credit for taking advantage of what they have got chance wise, but in terms of actual puck possession UM is actually outplaying them.
I honestly don't think they have played poorly at all. In terms of offensive zone puck possession they have outplayed BC. One bad defensive miscue, a slip on what looks like bad ice and a horrific call and that is how it is 3-0.
That ice is absolute shit, both teams have had a bunch of random puck handling and fanning issues. Very frustrating for a pretty even game to turn on a dime because of just a horrific call and what looks like ice that is causing problems.
To add insult to injury on the blatant high stick missed Copp fractured his cheekbone. The NHL really needs to redefine the whole injury part of the review for high sticking. I am going to say anytime a guy has to be helped off the ice and goes to the dressing room that should be considered injury, non sensical that it is only blood apparently. Though given how the rest of the night went even with PP Caps goaltender would have stoned everything.
Goalie stealing a game the Wings have largely controlled. Sucks, but that is a part of hockey as the glory years Red Wings teams that lost in the playoffs because of that can attest to. Though hot goalie or not got to find a way to get something past him.
Everyone talks about the block but something that was also a huge impact was when they got the foul call that should have gone on Hancock wrong and gave it to someone else. He went on to score like 9 points or whatever it was after he should have fouled out.
Eh in the end it was really the Rangers who bore the brunt of Fielders injury, the Tigers actually got two very productive seasons out of him, playoffs in the final year not withstanding, and then parlayed that into fleecing the Rangers in a trade for an all star in Kinsler before Fielder's neck issue was an issue.
Really cool how Nienhaus is headhunting, even on guys without the puck and the refs are going to let him get away with it sometimes. I don't watch alot of college hockey, is the officiating usually this dogshit?
I do actually doubt the record flips even if those two players end up at UM. Howard had two years of Dickinson flanked by a couple NBA draft picks and proceeded to produce a bubble team and a NCAA tournament miss with those two teams.
Some of McCarty's perceived lack of skill was more a product of his role honestly, at least early in his career. Guy was a high goal scorer in the minors I believe and still flashed that skill at times with the Wings.
I guess my only question would be if the few grand slam names like Greg McDermott were considered or contacted since worse case is they say no. But the more I think about it besides someone like that May is my number one choice of the other names mentioned.
Honestly for all the talk about no dominant teams this year both Purdue and Uconn are a clear step above everyone else to me if they play their respective games. Houston and Arizona to a lesser extent. UNC is pretty eh to me though.
Hard to trust any Purdue team in March but my gut tells me that this may be the one that finally makes a final four. I actually think Purdue, UConn and Houston are all going to make the final four if I had to guess at the moment. Purdue, Uconn, Houston and Zona would be my picks at the moment.
I mean even if they did I really don't feel like alot of coaches are in the head space to really listen until their season is over with particularly if you are coaching a team with deep run potential.
Eh, disagree, both guys have some potential and could develop with the right coach creating a good culture. It would worth it for May to at least talk to both of those guys. Get the the best FAU guys to come over, one of the those two guys to come back and a few recruits and you can at least cobble together something that is a decent improvement from this year.
I mean there generally isn't an issue getting guys in if they are grad transfers or freshmen so you can in fact bring in even as is, you just have to target the right guys. I mean on paper even without Love, it looked like UM had brought in some decent transfers last year but obviously it didn't actually pan out.
I mean I would have preferred if UM waited a little bit and took a swipe at someone like McDermott, worse case he says no. The rest of the candidates were more or less interchangeable to me so better to get the guy you want asap if that is the direction you are going to go. My only real reservation with May is sample size.
It wasn't really one bad mistake though, he had done this now three times in his life. And those are only the times he was caught, he might of very well done it more times and just not of gotten caught.
I have no idea how you can guarantee anything, let alone sweet 16 with any lineup Howard would have thrown out. He had two straight teams with Dickinson and a few draft picks each time and missed the tourney all together and barely made it the other.
So now I have to question why we hadn't heard a peep about his two prior DUI's before this. But yeah 3 now, this guy needs to be fired, zero question about it.
An uber is only a few phone clicks away, there is zero excuse to be drunk driving in this day and age. So if he is fired I have zero sympathy for a grown ass man making that decision.
There is zero excuse for drunk driving in this day and age when an uber is a couple of phone clicks away. People can make excuses for it all they want, but it really is a very simple thing to avoid doing. The facts are anyone who drives drunk is risking killing others because they couldn't be bothered to do something simple. There is no grey area, it's black and white, you carry something with you every day that makes it very easy to not drink and drive.
I believe some people have far too high of a threshold for what they consider can't miss. Personally I think someone like Dusty May of FAU would be a great hire for instance, but for some people he doesn't meet their ridiculously high threshold. As others have said there is zero chance JB wants anything to do with college basketball in 2024.
Yeah, no, how about we leave the alleged domestic abusers to the SEC. Yes I know the charges were dropped but just because the victim doesn't want to proceed doesn't mean he is innocent. She still had visible physical evidence on her after all. There is zero reason to go after people with character questions when you have other guys out there that you could take a run at.
If Warde brings Howard back this would be no different than if Hoke was somehow brought back after 2014. If this is any indication though Warde is trying to talk himself into doing it with some warped viewpoint of what effort actually looks like.
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Missing Enow Etta on that two deep, definitely sounds like will get some snaps from the practice reports.
Unless the pieces don't gel well after the initial part of the season I really don't think it will be that rough. With Goldin you are looking at a team with more talent certainly than some teams that were in the tournament last year being coached by a good coach. Tournament is becoming a very reasonable possibility. If I had to make a bet right now I would bet on them making the tournament honestly.
Definitely the pieces of a potential tourney team coming together which is kind of insane given the original state of the roster.
100% disagree on CB2, you have good young talent there, one or two will emerge as a good player. I have zero doubt about that. It is a little funny for a program that has been great with player development that people still doubt it will occur at spots where you have good young talent, it is bizarre to me quite frankly. You aren't going to have a proven starter from the prior season at every position but that doesn't necessarily mean you need a portal guy for every one of those positions.
With Goldin and one more add, NIT is probably the floor, with NCAA tournament in the realm of possibility now depending on how well the pieces gel. There were definitely teams in the tournament with less talent than this one assuming you get Goldin and another add. Though obviously there should be patience if they don't make it but it is definitely becoming more reasonable to think they have a shot.
Pretty damn impressive what May has done with the roster given the smoldering crater it was, definitely tournament bid is not out the question at all now if Goldin comes and depending on how well the pieces gel.
I mean the scouting report in BC is that they finish at an absurd rate. They haven't got many high quality chances but have pretty much scored on every single one of them. UM hasn't played poorly, but they needed a near perfect game and haven't got it.
Yeah for all those people saying the ice isn't an issue and it's just a UM problem, BC dude just did a bellyflop with no one within 5 ft of him.
Umm they literally had to take a tripping penalty caused by an odd looking mishandle at one point. So yes BC is having some issues with it too. But objectively UM has had more offensive zone possession time.
That is not true, they literally had to take a tripping penalty caused by a puck mishandle and have also fanned on a couple shots in a very odd manner.
You must by watching a different game than everyone else, UM has clearly had more puck possession time.
I mean Duke has the right to that space on the ice just as the BC player does. The BC player literally just ran straight into Duke's skate with his skate, Duke made zero motion to create any contact. That is one of the worst calls I have ever seen in a hockey game point blank.
I honestly don't think BC is playing great at all or really overwhelming UM whatsoever. Give them credit for taking advantage of what they have got chance wise, but in terms of actual puck possession UM is actually outplaying them.
I honestly don't think they have played poorly at all. In terms of offensive zone puck possession they have outplayed BC. One bad defensive miscue, a slip on what looks like bad ice and a horrific call and that is how it is 3-0.
Buccigross is literally just orgasming every time BC brings the puck in the zone.
That ice is absolute shit, both teams have had a bunch of random puck handling and fanning issues. Very frustrating for a pretty even game to turn on a dime because of just a horrific call and what looks like ice that is causing problems.
Are you fucking kidding me? Dude just ran into his foot and of course pro BC announcing crew is just like yep that checks out.
To add insult to injury on the blatant high stick missed Copp fractured his cheekbone. The NHL really needs to redefine the whole injury part of the review for high sticking. I am going to say anytime a guy has to be helped off the ice and goes to the dressing room that should be considered injury, non sensical that it is only blood apparently. Though given how the rest of the night went even with PP Caps goaltender would have stoned everything.
Goalie stealing a game the Wings have largely controlled. Sucks, but that is a part of hockey as the glory years Red Wings teams that lost in the playoffs because of that can attest to. Though hot goalie or not got to find a way to get something past him.
So a guy going to the dressing room is no injury? Ok, lol.
What the fuck is wrong with these officials, how do you not see that high stick? They also missed another too many men on the ice a few minutes prior.
Wings are dominating this game, just running into a goalie tonight who is stopping everything.
Everyone talks about the block but something that was also a huge impact was when they got the foul call that should have gone on Hancock wrong and gave it to someone else. He went on to score like 9 points or whatever it was after he should have fouled out.
Eh in the end it was really the Rangers who bore the brunt of Fielders injury, the Tigers actually got two very productive seasons out of him, playoffs in the final year not withstanding, and then parlayed that into fleecing the Rangers in a trade for an all star in Kinsler before Fielder's neck issue was an issue.
Really cool how Nienhaus is headhunting, even on guys without the puck and the refs are going to let him get away with it sometimes. I don't watch alot of college hockey, is the officiating usually this dogshit?
Go Blue, also sidenote it is early but the Tigers are 3-0 for the first time since 2016. It does help that Al Central really sucks of course.
I do actually doubt the record flips even if those two players end up at UM. Howard had two years of Dickinson flanked by a couple NBA draft picks and proceeded to produce a bubble team and a NCAA tournament miss with those two teams.
Some of McCarty's perceived lack of skill was more a product of his role honestly, at least early in his career. Guy was a high goal scorer in the minors I believe and still flashed that skill at times with the Wings.
I guess my only question would be if the few grand slam names like Greg McDermott were considered or contacted since worse case is they say no. But the more I think about it besides someone like that May is my number one choice of the other names mentioned.
Yeah so for all the talk about wide open coming into this tournament this is turning into a very boring and chalky type of tournament.
Honestly for all the talk about no dominant teams this year both Purdue and Uconn are a clear step above everyone else to me if they play their respective games. Houston and Arizona to a lesser extent. UNC is pretty eh to me though.
Hard to trust any Purdue team in March but my gut tells me that this may be the one that finally makes a final four. I actually think Purdue, UConn and Houston are all going to make the final four if I had to guess at the moment. Purdue, Uconn, Houston and Zona would be my picks at the moment.
I mean even if they did I really don't feel like alot of coaches are in the head space to really listen until their season is over with particularly if you are coaching a team with deep run potential.
Eh, disagree, both guys have some potential and could develop with the right coach creating a good culture. It would worth it for May to at least talk to both of those guys. Get the the best FAU guys to come over, one of the those two guys to come back and a few recruits and you can at least cobble together something that is a decent improvement from this year.
I mean there generally isn't an issue getting guys in if they are grad transfers or freshmen so you can in fact bring in even as is, you just have to target the right guys. I mean on paper even without Love, it looked like UM had brought in some decent transfers last year but obviously it didn't actually pan out.
I mean I would have preferred if UM waited a little bit and took a swipe at someone like McDermott, worse case he says no. The rest of the candidates were more or less interchangeable to me so better to get the guy you want asap if that is the direction you are going to go. My only real reservation with May is sample size.
Definitely would talk to Mark Byington as a potential candidate. JMU looks like a well coached team on both ends of the floor.
Utah State looks like a pretty well coached team, I would give Danny Sprinkle a look. Though maybe not quite a long enough resume as a HC.
It wasn't really one bad mistake though, he had done this now three times in his life. And those are only the times he was caught, he might of very well done it more times and just not of gotten caught.
I have no idea how you can guarantee anything, let alone sweet 16 with any lineup Howard would have thrown out. He had two straight teams with Dickinson and a few draft picks each time and missed the tourney all together and barely made it the other.
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Third time actually
So now I have to question why we hadn't heard a peep about his two prior DUI's before this. But yeah 3 now, this guy needs to be fired, zero question about it.
You know what also never stops? Something called Uber.
An uber is only a few phone clicks away, there is zero excuse to be drunk driving in this day and age. So if he is fired I have zero sympathy for a grown ass man making that decision.
There is zero excuse for drunk driving in this day and age when an uber is a couple of phone clicks away. People can make excuses for it all they want, but it really is a very simple thing to avoid doing. The facts are anyone who drives drunk is risking killing others because they couldn't be bothered to do something simple. There is no grey area, it's black and white, you carry something with you every day that makes it very easy to not drink and drive.
I believe some people have far too high of a threshold for what they consider can't miss. Personally I think someone like Dusty May of FAU would be a great hire for instance, but for some people he doesn't meet their ridiculously high threshold. As others have said there is zero chance JB wants anything to do with college basketball in 2024.
Yeah, no, how about we leave the alleged domestic abusers to the SEC. Yes I know the charges were dropped but just because the victim doesn't want to proceed doesn't mean he is innocent. She still had visible physical evidence on her after all. There is zero reason to go after people with character questions when you have other guys out there that you could take a run at.
You are correct, it was 2014, but the point and comparison does remain the same.
If Warde brings Howard back this would be no different than if Hoke was somehow brought back after 2014. If this is any indication though Warde is trying to talk himself into doing it with some warped viewpoint of what effort actually looks like.