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|1 week 4 days ago||Marquette Offered||
and he's played with Jamal Cain the past 4 years on the AAU circuit, so they know each other quite well.
Greg has some options now, as Texas and Pitt are also coming on strong. He's in full blowup mode right now.
|1 week 4 days ago||Staff is Aware||
and saw Greg play in person as recently as last week. As of right now, Mo Bamba is the priority, and until a definitive no or a commitment is made to either Michigan or any other school, all other prospects will likely take a back seat.
I'm a huge fan of Greg's game, think he criminally underrated. Hopefully we get involved with Greg if things don't pan out for Bamba. Would love to add him to the 2017 class.
FWIW Greg is taking an official visit to Marquette on Feb. 18
|1 week 4 days ago||I Train Tons of Kids||
and many of them hold Division I offers, but not high-major material at this point, and no interest from Michigan. I wouldn't bring any kid I train, let alone 2020 prospect, to this board without it being something substantial in terms of talent/athletic ability and mutual interest existed.
|1 week 4 days ago||Thanks!||
The top dunk is something Steve did at my camp in October...........which is absolutley ridiculous for a college/professional player, let alone a HS freshman.
The second video is a clip of one of the workouts I put him through over the summer.
|1 week 6 days ago||Like his Ability to Shoot off The Dribble||
really good looking stroke from midrange and distance. I question his ability to handle the ball at the high major level though, so I don't know if we have a 6' SG or a true PG. caveats apply though as I've never seen him play live, so I can't really speak with confidence on this one.
|1 week 6 days ago||He's Certainly On the Radar||
but not necessarily going to be offered in the near future. Right now the priority board reads Mo Bamba................and nothing else. If Bamba gives Michigan a definitive no, then we will start looking elsewhere. Hopefully its not too late to get in the mix with Greg at that point, should it come to fruition.
|1 week 6 days ago||I Liked X a Lot Out of HS||
I viewed him live a ton in EYBL, and he displayed the ability to score in half court sets with a nice elbow jumpshot and a really nice floater to compensate for his lack of size. He was certainly a bulldog on defense then, and appears to be above average already in that regard in college. That said, most of X Simpson's production in HS was transition based, something that probably isn't going to translate to Michigan because our tempo is slow.
I was pretty high on X coming into the season, but once I was able to view a live practice, I knew right then and there he was going to need significant time to develop. He looked sub-par in pick and roll sets, could not create off the dribble for himself in the halfcourt, and isn't a great shooter.
All in all it seems like a bad fit at this point in terms of system.......X would likely be a great fit at Louisville or Texas, but we simply don't run that type of offensive or defensive system at Michigan under Coach Beilein.
Still too early to write X off, as he's just a freshman, but I'd be lying to say I don't have serious concerns about him moving forward.
|1 week 6 days ago||Greg Elliott Would be a Steal||
late in the cycle. His athleticism, motor, length, and court vision is exactly what this program needs. I think he's going to be an absolute stud as a sophomore once his frame fills out. I think he's the most underrated player in the country.
|1 week 6 days ago||DeJulius Will Likely be An Upgrade||
probably going to be a nice upgade over Xavier Simpson in terms of freshman production. He can shoot from anywhere on the court, either off the catch or the dribble. I can just about guarantee he'll be much better offensively.
With respect to offers, Dave held offers from DePaul, UofD, Oakland U before picking up the Michigan offer. Right before the Michigan offer, Kentucky jumped in the mix as well. DeJulius is a life-long Michigan fan, and while the Kentucky interest made him think for 4-5 days, he ultimately went with his heart.
The rankings services have taken notice of Dave as well, as his production in the 16u EYBL bracket last year couldn't be denied (dropped 40 against MSU commit Foster Loyer). This year he is averaging close to 30 points per game and 5 assists. He's currently a 4 star to ESPN, #126 to Rivals, 149 to 247, and Scout hasn't updated their 18 rankings in ages (bankrupt, just bought out by 247).
All in all, I think this is a reasonable upgrade in terms of raw talent from a recruiting perspective.
|2 weeks 6 hours ago||Mutual Breakup||
Hampton Bey committed really early, and while she's a really nice athlete, I'm not sure he skillset developed as much as the staff hoped for. Bey transferred from Rogers last year because an incoming freshman, Zia Cooke, was most certainly going to eat into her time.
Cooke is an absolute freak athlete that probably holds offers from every program in the country. Would love for Michigan to land her, she plays with my daughter in AAU.
Another one of my daughter's AAU teammates, Rickea Jackson, is currently top 10 in the country for 2019...............and her cousin is former UM football player Teric Jones. Safe to say that Michigan will be seriously considered. Jackson is a 6'3 wing, yes that's correct, a 6'3 female wing that can handle, pass, has great length, and is athletic.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||Deja Church||
Great athlete in the 17 class, with tremendous length. I think she will improve the perimeter defense instantly. Not a great shooter, but she can get to the rim and finish with the best of em. Looking forward to the next few years of WBB.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||She is Diligent||
Shows up at HS games, AAU tournaments, maintains contact with AAU coaches. She hits the recruiting trail hard. I can confirm that 100%. Her hard work is being rewarded for sure.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||Love It!||
As the Michigan WBB team has several players on the roster that come from my daughter's AAU program, so we know them personally. KBA has really stepped up her game on the recruiting trail the past 2 years, and its paying off. We're still very suspect on defense, but offensively we're just very hard to deal with. Things are looking great long term for KBA/WBB team.
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||Recruiting Approach Thoughts||
With respect to Beilein on the recruiting trail, he is generally regarded as being very good in-person/on visits. He's been described to me as charismatic, funny, engaging, and personable. I think he does extremely well when prospects take visits to Michigan, and when he makes in-home visits.
Where Beilein seemingly fails is the follow-up to those visits. Most recruits that I speak with say Michigan contacts with much less frequency in relation to other schools via text, phone calls, mail, etc. That falls in line with the conventional wisdom that Beilein won't beg, kiss ass, play the game, etc.
Making an analogy, and perhaps an appropriate one in this context, I think Beilein likes old-school romance. In the 50, 60s, 70s guys and gals would date for a bit, make a commitment, get married, have kids, live happily ever after, etc........prolonged dating and courting weren't widespread. People made quick commitments. In contemporary times, that simply isn't true. Dating has become a long, and detailed process. Many people these days date for years before making marriage a reality. I don't think JB has realisitic expectations in that regard. He has to learn to love the dating process so to speak.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Thoughts||
Davis - his lateral agility and overall athleticism is just far behind where it needs to be in order to be a rotational player at this point. I think he would really struggle on the defensive end of the court right now. Down the road he may develop into a player that we can dump the ball to into on the block and get buckets with his back to the basket and perhaps be a decent rebounder. Limited upside for sure though.
Watson - never regarded as a good defender in high school. Good athlete, average shooter, with limited ballhandling ability. He will get time out of necessity next year, but unless his ballhandling and motor improve by a reasonable margin he's going to be a downgrade in terms of production from Duncan Robinson (fulfilling the bench wing spot)
Teske - good defender, moves his feet really well for a legit 7 footer. Great timing on shotblocking as well. Doesn't rebound particularly well, and is nowhere near ready to contribute on offense. In a few years I think he's going to be a really good paint defender, just needs time to develop.
Overall we have a lack of two-way players. I think Livers has the ability to be a nice two-way player for us in the future though at the 4 spot.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||A few more names||
On record as saying we need to let Beilein finish out the year and then evaluate from there. But a few more candidates
Chris Holtmann (Butler) - relatively young, appears to be a good recruiter
Dana Altman (Miami) - less likely, but money talks, recruits well, has turned Oregon into a national contender
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Bad Evaluation/Roster Managment||
with respect to Watson, that falls on the staff. We needed a wing that can create off the dribble and defend. Watson is an extremely limited ballhandler that does not have a great motor. He only shot 32.4% from distance during EYBL. The staff definitely whiffed on that one.
With regard to X, don't think that was a misevaluation, as much as a bad fit for the system we run. X produced against top notch competition during EYBL and has shown ability to to score in half court sets. However, he's at his best in transition, to which Beilien is not heavy on. Hopefully he makes great strides next year. Can't blame JB for taking X in light of the Battle situation.
I think the most detrimental signing of 16 was Austin Davis, have no clue what Beilien was thinking there. Very little upside, only 6'8, and we already have enough bigs. That scholarship would've been much better utilized on an athletic guard that can create off the dribble.
Again though, we're taking some forward steps in 17 to right the ship. How we finish out the 17 and 18 classes will determine the next 3 years. More athletes with motor and ballhandlers.........no more one dimensional shooters with limited athleticism. That is the key moving forward in my opinion.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Recruiting Perspective||
The inability to obtain a single player that can create shots off the dribble from the 2013-2016 classes is the reason the team is struggling at this point.
That said, I do think Beilein has upgraded the raw talent in the 17 class with Poole and Livers, but I doubt either of those prospects will be instant impact types. If JB can land an athletic player with motor or a shot creator to finish out 17, or get both in 18, it likely changes the trajectory of the team.
Really hoping we get seriously involved with Greg Elliott. He's got all the tools to help the team as a 2 way player.
In terms of Beilein's job, we have to let the season play out and evaluate him at that point. Does no good to fire him now, because we aren't going to obtain a suitable replacement, and it creates uncertainty in terms of recruiting
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Dakota is Certainly a Good Squad||
but a bit overrated relative to pre-season expectations. That is their only competitive game of the year thus far though. That said, I love Weems' game, and think he's exactly what Michigan needs.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||We Are||
Weems has already visited multiple times, and does have legit interest in Michigani. Unfortunately, Ohio State is number 1 for him at this point.
With regard to his high school production, hard to put much into it because he plays horrible competition for the most part. Will get a real test on February 10, when New Haven squares off against Detroit Cornerstone and Marquette commit Jamal Cain.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||He's Already Visited Michigan||
kid is no doubt a legit talent. That said, hard to put much stock into a 7th grader, as he's simply going to dominate at that level considering his size and skillset. Best best is to check back after his 9th grade year to measure progress.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Mid Major Player||
Norman is essentially a small forward stuck in a point guard's body. Absolutely great athlete, but not a great ballhandler and doesn't shoot particularly well. Tough to make it in college at 5'11 when you can't really handle the ball and aren't an above average shooter. His only division 1 offers are Oakland U, U of D, and Central Michigan. I highly doubt he gets a high major offer.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Don't Play the Greatest Competition||
and the one time I viewed them live this year was a really close game vs Wayland Union. I'd certainly have them in my top 10 overall, and there is an argument to be made for top 5, but I don't think GH is as good as the 5 teams listed above, in particular the top 3.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Kiyon Boyd||
is a 2018 prospect that I've worked with that expressly told me he really likes Michigan. This is the exact type of wing we need, a guy with a plus handle, great vision, tremendous strength, and above average athleticism........he gets to the rim at will and finishes through contact or finds teammates for easy baskets. Reminds me a lot of Rodney Stuckey. I think he'd be a very nice grab for Michigan should they pursue him.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Tough Question||
#1 Grand Rapids Christian - Xavier Tillman, James Beck, Duane Washington
#2 Clarkston - Foster Loyer, Dylan Alderson, Taylor Currie
#3 East English Village - David DeJulius, Greg Elliott
#4 UofD Jesuit - Ike Eke, Greg, Julian Dozier, Elijah Collins, Scot Nelson, Jalen Thomas
#5 Flint Beecher - Malik Ellison, Jordan Roland, Levane Blake
After the top 3, the distinctions are very small in my opinion
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Good Question||
Livers - ranges from 75-175
Poole - ranges from 60-120
Brooks - universal 3 star
DeJulius - too early to put much stock into rankings, because they haven't been universally updated. He's a 4star/#22 PG to ESPN, #126 overall to Rivals, #148 overall to 247, and a 2 star to Scout
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Weems - at this point I'd say||
Weems - at this point I'd say Ohio State, but its still way too early to make a confident prediction in that regard
Rocket - don't really know, as I don't really view him as hands down high major prospect as of right now. His development will determine what offers he obtains moving forward
Tillman - Utah leads, with Cal probably in second. His official to Cal this weekend will determine a lot.
Johns - he wants to go to Kansas, but he's not a Kansas level player in my opinion. His mom wants him at Michigan, while his dad wants him at MSU. If he gets a Kansas offer he will commit. In terms of fit, Michigan is a much better for him than MSU in my view.
Williams - he's trending toward football at this point, and may pursue that route with the current trajectory, as he only has mid major offers in basketball.
Elite Player - don't know if there is a sure fire elite/one and done type player in Michigan at this point. Terry Armstrong is a great athlete, but don't know if he has the skillset to be a one and done. For 2020, I train a kid named Steve Pearson that is a freak athlete, but his skillset needs to develop, and its still extremely early.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Will Likely Regret It||
Never quite felt the proverbial 'love' from Beilein and co. and decided to go with Marquette. Think it will really sting down the road, as I think Jamal would've been the perfect fit at Michigan, and has NBA type athleticism with a nice stroke from distance. Is now a universal 4 star, top 60-80 type player.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Ballhandling/Creating Ability||
For the most part, the attribute that separated guys like Stauskas, LeVert, and Burke from our current guards/wings like Walton, Irvin, MAAR was the ability to break down defenders off the dribble and mandate help defense. We simply do not have that on the roster at this point. It is a huge need moving forward, and it would be really nice if Livers displays that ability against legit competition.
I don't put much stock into rankings, as there is simply no way the major services have seen 500-750 players, let alone more than few seconds. I attended 3/4 EYBL events (by far most talented circuit), the Adidas Championships in July, and all the other big evens in July (various shoe circuit clubs battle against each other), and I only witnessed scouts from ESPN, Rivals, Scout, 247 present a hand full of times in total.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Negged?||
Did someone seriously neg me for giving thanks? I thought the other negs were a bit harsh, but this is a bit odd. Tough crowd here huh?