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|1 week 6 days ago||Wouldn't take it that way||
UM literally just started showing serious interest at the end of July - I did some work with Jerome in late July, at which point he told me he only had 1 phone call with the staff. For him to visit and be offered within 2 weeks is more indicative of the interest level at this point.
|1 week 6 days ago||Thanks||
While my site/work isn't UM centric explicitly, I certainly make it my business to to cater to the UM alum/fan base as an alum myself. Obviously, I can't come close to approaching the excellent work that Ace, Brian and the rest of the staff do here at MGo, I just hope that I can supplement that work with some visit/recruiting updates when possible.
|2 weeks 16 hours ago||Jamal has UM in his Final 4||
As of right now there is a commit freeze for the class of 2017 - JB will check in on Cain, Bowen, Wilkes, Jackson starting September 9th (and Cain in particular, on that very day) to see where their heads are at, most likely give them a few weeks, and give them a call/visit toward the end of September/early October to essentially say 'are you on board, or do we need to move on?'
At this point, I don't think Bowen is working with that time frame, and is looking for a UK offer. Wilkes is releasing a top 5 this weekend, so we'll know if we're in it for him soon enough.
Another poster asked me if 'we were putting all of our eggs in the Cain basket' - to that I say not intentionally, but I told him at the time that I was inclined to think Smith was viewed as 4, which is likely true considering the staff canceled his visit that was slated for Sunday.
Reading between the lines, it looks like Cain and Wilkes are the viable options at this point, as Bowen isn't deciding in late September, and I'm not inclined to think Jaren Jackson is either.. Isaiah Livers took Kyle Young's spot, so he's no longer an option.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I've watched both extensively in person||
and while I do agree with you that Cormac may have the higher ceiling, I think Robby is probably the more likely instant impact player, and let's face it, that's what we need. Robby has a college ready frame right now at 6'4-6'5 and 200lbs, can shoot the ball off the dribble or the catch, very underrated passer, attacks the offensive glass, finishes through contact with no problem at all, and plays defense extremely hard.
Cormac is certainly the better ballhandler and passer, hands down, he simply has more skill in that regard, and is an underrated athlete. However, he's very tentative when ball pressure is applied by the defense, he gets knocked off his spot and is off balance often. Cormac needs to gain about 30lbs of muscle and that is no exaggeration. His motor leaves a little something to be desired as well.
I would love to have either, but I think Cormac will take a year or 2 to adjust to the physicality and game speed at the B10 level, whereas I think Carmody could carve out a decent role from the minute he steps on campus.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Jerome Hunter||
2018 out of Ohio (same HS as Caris) will also be visting Friday. Hunter is a combo forward that is a 3.5 star - i suspect his ranking will rise, but he plays for a small AAU club (OH Nova), so the exposure isnt' great. Be interesting to see if we offer, as Easley just visted this past weekend for camp and did not come away with an offer, despite the staff knowing he very much wanted one.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Summary||
2017 - no more offers will go out in the near future. The staff is waiting until September 9th, at which point home/school visits will be conducted with existing offers (Cain, Bowen, Jackson, Wilkes). Probably some brief courting after that assuming no commitments, and the staff will probably make some calls late September/early October to essentially say are you on board, or do we have to move on?
2018 - 2 kids that REALLY want an offer are Kevin Easley (4 star/#80ish) combo forward out of Indiana and Dwayne Cohill (4star/#80ish) PG out of Ohio.
Problem is the staff is waiting on Brandon Johns (who I think Easley is probably approaching, or just as good) with respect to Easley and we just took Eli Brooks, so there may not be a need for a PG in 18 according to the staff.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Bowen and Wilkes are Viewed as 3s||
so not all the eggs are in the Cain basket.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Young is Seemingly Out||
Young is strictly a 4, and as such, its likely that Livers took his spot. Just based on my own opinion, I think Smith may have been viewed as a 4 as well.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||My Apologies||
Forgot to edit the title. Fixed now
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Got Lucky||
I did say I was inclined to believe he would be our next commit, although I thought it would happen after visits in late September, so I essentially got lucky on my best guess.
Here's some context - Isaiah told me UM was #1 after his visit in June. MSU was the dream school, but he was frustrated by their slow play, and he and his Dad both agreed UM style of play fit his game much better. Essentially he just wanted to take a visit or two and then commit to UM. Once Kithier dropped for MSU, and word got out that Justin Smith was visiting August 14th, he knew he had to take that spot or risk being left out.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Ryan Can Play||
I attended the camp, and Cormac can certainly play. 6'5 is most certainly an exaggeration, but he's probably a legit 6'2.5 - 6'3. He can handle the ball, shoot off the bounce or the catch, and has nice vision. He's a much better athlete than one might think based on the film. He caught a few oops and threw down a reverse dunk off 1 leg in transition yesterday. His first step isn't great, but better than I initially thought it would be.
Where he struggles the lack of strength/mass, he was knocked off his spot several times yesterday when attempting to get to the rim. His handle/change of direction is good enough to get decent separation, but once the defender bodies him he loses balance, and fell several times. Also, he doesn't embrace physicality/contact, IE no dog there. There are also some concerns about his competition level with Middlesex Magic (AAU club) - its certainly not on par with EYBL, and clearly below Adidas and UA as well.
Definitely think he's an upper tier prospect, and vastly underranked in general. He's not a top 30 type because he simply doesn't have that type of athleticism/explosion, but I do think he's probably a 60-80 type player with a really nice skillset. He's a smaller, and less skilled version of Stauskas in HS.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Differences||
The 4 is generally the player with less ball skills and shooting ability. Case in point would be GR3 at the 4, whereas THJ was a 2, despite both being 'wings'.
Specific to this context, don't think anyone would dispute Cain has superior ball skills and shooting in relation to Justin Smith. Additionally, Cain is a far superior shooter to Charles Matthews.
Obviously, there is fluidity in terms of position designation with respect to guarding a different position in relation to where one plays on offense. However, traditionally those that have defended the 4 on defense have also played the 4 on offense. Zack Novak was a 2 way PF, and so was GR3. That accounts for a 6 year time period. Irvin is the outlier during the past 2 years.
All that being said, I think Cain is a two way 2/3 rather than any designation as a 4 based on skill, athletic ability, and size/strength.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Irvin is a 4 on D||
with the distinction that's he's a 2/3 on offense. Cain is a 2/3 on both sides of the court in my opinion. Positions are certainly fluid, but Cain's skillset, size, athleticism, and frame all indicate he's 2/3, and specifically a prototype 3 all the way.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Cain is viewed as a 2/3||
Haven't spoken to Justin, but I'd assume they view him as a 4. Jamal was specifically told they view him in the same mold as THJ/Irvin as a 2/3 ballhandler type.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Kobe and Steph Curry do It||
if its good enough for them, its good enough for me. Think its most likely a momentum thing, as your adominal/chest/upper body is generating power from the right side (if a right handed shooter), and momentum carries vertical and outward (and to the left to a certain extent), so its almost natural.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||No Doubt About It||
With Wilkes we're going to play a waiting game, perhaps until April. Jamal is most likely a late September/early October decision.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Michigan is Certainly Among the Top Group||
That's about all I can give you at this point.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Agreed||
I view Cain as a prototype 3. 6'7 wing with nice range, very explosive finisher, potential to be a really good ball handler, can already knock down perimeter shots off the bounce. Already a very good rebounder for a wing.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I like Smith||
Although his body/frame probably means he's a 4 in our offense, he's not nearly the rebounder that Donnie and Young are. He's a SF with questionable shooting, although that has picked up a lot as of late. He's a freak athlete that would probably be a a decent upgrade on defense instantly. Wouldn't mind him at all
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I didn't post that||
When JB is front row at your game 15mins early in a setting where time is VERY important, I think it's pretty telling, and a significant indicator that the interest is more serious in relation to a month ago.
Additionally, it's a pretty slow time right now until FB practice starts in a few days. Really don't see what the issue is here, but my apologies if I offended you or did not follow protocol.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||The Highlights Are New||
Not sure where you're headed with that - I literally released the highlights today and the serious interest is a very recent development.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Livers is the only commit watch||
at this point. He will probably decide relatively soon between MSU and UM. Cain is definitely interested in UM, but his decision timeframe is post visits/September. So we're at least a few months away with that.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||The major Recruiting Services Haven't Evaluated||
Donnie recently for the most part. ESPN has maintained his ranking for over a year at this point. The bball recruiting staff at ESPN has shrunk to a total of.......3. I can personally tell you that Biancardi/ESPN did not make an appearance at any of Tillman's games in LV, nor do I recall seeing them present at any EYBL games when he played for the Oakland Soldiers. That said, Rivals posted an article not too long ago stating that Donnie is among 12 prospects that barely missed the cut for their 150 - just needed to see him more. I assume he will make the cut in the next update because he dominated in Vegas.
Future 150 has them in their top 100. Hoopseen flat out admitted they were mistaken in not placing him in their top 100 after seeing him on the NBPA top 100 camp.
That being said, rankings are just one of many tools. Rankings cannot substitute for live evaluations and film over several months. In relation to our other prospect offers not named Jaren Jackson, Donnie is superior in every attribute other than shooting in my opinion. Donnie has a HUGE advantage in terms of ball handling, passing, playmaking over both. Donnie is a much better rebounder than Livers as well.
During JBs tenure our weakness has consistently been rebounding and interior defense, and Donnie would be a huge upgrade in both departments. Also, interior scoring has been an issue as well, because of the lack of back to the basket types and guys that can create their own shot via the dribble while having the athletic ability to finish strong - again, Donnie improves both tremendously.
In sum, we've had a decent portion of our roster that is one dimensional recently, mostly shooting. Donnie is the type of versatile 2 way player we desperately need - a guy that can create on offense and playmake for himself and others, while having the size, strength, athleticism, and motor to adequately defend the post and rebound.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Indeed||
MSU forced our hand here, but I think it was the right move. That being said, I think it's time we start really putting a full court press on Donnie Tillman. He was absolutely dominant in Vegas this past weekend. His skills at that size are unreal
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Tough to Say||
2 days ago there was a 99% likelihood of Livers being MSU bound, which essentially forced Ms hand here. Think UM did the right thing by offering quickly after MSU, because I don't think there's any doubt he would've committed by the end of the week.
I'll give you this bit of info - MSU has always been his dreamschool, but he knows the UM style of play fits his game better.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Rocket is Great||
But certainly not the best player in his own class, let alone the entire state. Romeo Weems and Terry Armstrong are both superior 19s IMO.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Eastern has Legit Interest||
Wouldn't pay much attention to 247 crystal ball at this point. Biggest factor for Eastern is a program giving the opportunity to play PG exclusively. Izzo says he will play a 'Denzel playmaking role' but hasn't committed to Eastern as a PG. UM views Nojel as a PG exclusively, so that is huge.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Jamal just jumped 40+ spots||
Jamal just jumped 40+ spots in the new 247 rankings for 17 released today, he now sits at #158. Still vastly underranked in my opinion, but glad to see the other services taking notice of his talent. Scout bumped him to #137 (previously generic 3 star) in their last rankings update, and now 247 has bumped him to #158 (after being 200ish). Rivals has him at #74. ESPN has not even raked him, at all, can only mean that haven't seen Jamal live.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||M is being seriously considered||
I would love to have Jamal in the mix, his ceiling is NBA potential in my opinion. Just has a really nice blend of skill and athleticism, and a really great kid. No doubt about it, that Michigan is a school that is under serious consideration from Jamal and his family. Hopefully we're able to land him.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||The fact that he's had to||
The fact that he's had to answer questions about his commitment status several times, or had to (re) proclaim his solidarity to M suggest that its been in question. Perhaps there was no legitimate concern, but it has been a prevelant question (perhaps fan or media generated) over the past few months. I've never had any concerns regarding Jordan's commitment, but apparently others have.