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|3 days 18 hours ago||Because of course.||
Because of course.
|3 days 18 hours ago||Same thread was created back||
Same thread was created back in 2010. "Oh hai Irony, we are fans of Michigan football. What are you still doing around here?"
|3 days 18 hours ago||Nope. It's all gonna change.||
Nope. It's all gonna change. Also you Harbaugh lovers better get used to crying your eyes out about Wolverine helmet awards.
|3 days 18 hours ago||Tennessee is bad at football||
Tennessee is bad at football under Butch Jones. What a fucking shocker!
|3 days 18 hours ago||Gee, ya think? Thanks for||
Gee, ya think? Thanks for the clairvoyant thoughts on the matter. I'm sure glad we have the professors on top of things. Jesus Christ.
|3 days 18 hours ago||Awesome! I wonder if those||
Awesome! I wonder if those 116 fucks and 42 shit given were from the "But what if we win out?" partisans, because LOL
|5 days 7 hours ago||I like the predicted score, as in the War of 18-12||
"In fact, the war had a far-reaching impact in the United States, as the Treaty of Ghent ended decades of bitter partisan infighting in government and ushered in the so-called “Era of Good Feelings.” "
If only the parallel could apply to the University of Michigan football, its team and its fans.
I want good feelings.
|1 week 1 day ago||I got these photos from this article October 23, 2014:||
|1 week 1 day ago||"The guy who clears out the underbrush so he can coach"||
|1 week 2 days ago||Sheezus||
Beilein just keeps digging up these diamonds in the rough and then a year or two later you open the doorr..... A Michigan basketball game is on TV........and everyone is like:
|1 week 2 days ago||Good post. Question:||
Question: Will Frank Clark now be subject to UofM disciplinary procedure as a student?
|1 week 2 days ago||I'm not sure what help people are talking about||
Can someone elaborate as to what help is really available to perpetrators of domestic violence vs. victims? Obviously in the USvictims have a lot of sympathy and resources (therapy, shelters, resource) both private and state. Perpetrators? I just don't see much there, except jail, courts and prison, etc. I'm sure I'm mistaken.
Hoke made the right decision.
Obviously a really sad story, and probably much deeper so than people generally want to acknowledge.
As far as Clark's future, hopefully he can turn it around somehow. We can imagine that if the mother's child is indeed his, then Clark may not have much access to being part of that child's life at all. And we know there's a massive audience of people in society who applaud that kind of outcome, pointing rightly to the domestic violence and assault on the mother, and in front of other children. It's not right, I'm just saying that such results can really spiral out of control fast, and can create a great deal of mental anguish for Frank Clark too. It's how young men become non-fathers and reduced to state-sanctioned child-support providers.
Sad for Clark. Sad for the mother. Sad for the child. Sad for the families. Hopefully, somehow, there will be a far happier ending than what we see right now. But I imagine the predictive stats for success are not promising.
|1 week 2 days ago||I agree.||
But mainly because of Michigan's future freshman sensation starting quadruple option quarterback named Cluge McJackson.
|1 week 3 days ago||Somehow it's all completely fitting||
Somehow it's all completely fitting
|1 week 6 days ago||I was going to say looks like Edward Platt from Get Smart....||
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||Significant in the sense of ending droughts, perhaps.||
but defeating 16th ranked 2011 Nebraska 45-17 was Brady Hoke's last great, decisive win over a ranked football team.
2012 MSU finished 7-6, unranked. Win was significant only for ending drought.
2011 Ohio finished 6-7, unranked. Win was significant only for ending drought. Scandal-ridden Ohio roster and dead-man-walking coach caveats apply.
2013 ND finished 9-4, finished #20 but lost to unranked Pitt and faced 6-6 Rutgers in their bowl game.
All of 2011 Nebraska's four losses came against ranked opponents and finished #24.
|2 weeks 9 hours ago||It just doesn't matter||
I'm not entirely interested in the emotional opinions of former players when there's all this damning data around to torpedo their appeals all to hell. Brian has done a great job explaining this each week with the UFRs. How can you argue with people who won't accept facts? Exactly. Complete waste of time.
Michigan is likely going to finish this season 5-7. This compares poorly to four year starts by Bo: 38-6, Mo: 36-9-3 and Lloyd: 39-11. Hoke will be 31-20 for his 4 years at Michigan, except unlike Bo, Mo, Lloyd adn RichRod, Hoke's 4 teams have regressed in wins and performance each and every year.
Michigan got blown out by Notre Dame, Utah, Minnesota and Michigan State. Ohio is very likely to do the same since they are ranked 4th in the nation in scoring after facing MSU on the road. None of these games were, or will be, remotely competitive. Michigan barely defeats scholarship-poor Penn State (18-13) and one of the worst Northwestern teams in years (10-9). Maryland is terrible at football by any standard since losing their leading rusher, but somehow a Terrapins win is a realistic possibility. Could you imagine if Michigan had to play Wisconsin or Nebraska this year?
So frankly, I don't care about the support or defense arguments for Brady Hoke. The last meaningful Michigan victory was 2011 vs. Nebraska. It's been a horrible drought ever since. What helps me fall asleep at night is the fact that there's no fucking way Hoke is going to be granted another year to take MIchigan to 4-8 in front of 80,000 fans on Saturday afternoons.
So it turns out that Michigan is just like everybody else in college football in that it has made disasterous hiring decisions - and probably will continue to do so. I think Schlissel is a very smart guy, and Hackett too, but I'm skeptical that their selection will make Michigan football competitive. Brady Hoke was one of the worst hiring decisions ever made in college football. This was known by rational people following the program well before he was hired.
I think it doesn't matter, because like Oklahoma, LSU, Auburn, USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, eventually it will become necessary for Michigan to correct itself and hire wisely for the long-term.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I'm so happy for Denard||
He deserves all the success.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Welp I will give you a few reasons (devil's advocate):||
1. We don't know how Golson practiced this week or in the previous 3 weeks. Kelly probably does.
2. We don't know where Golson's attitude at the moment or where his head is at. He might be cocking off to the coaches now. Who knows? Kelly probably knows more than fans or the press.
3. Quarterbacks have a ton of responsibility, but number one is not to fucking turn the ball over. Of course, we Michigan fans have kind of forgotten about this one, since "QB turnovers" has sort of been the water we swim in on Saturday afternoons the last 3 years. You may say: "Well a couple of interceptions never hurt anyb...." NO! It's not normal. In football, it's really unacceptable unless the ball is batted, dropped or tipped.
4. Some quarterbacks reach a ceiling and just cannot progress. Not sure this is even the case with Golson, but Kelly has coached up his share of QBs and probably recognizes a few little things he doesn't like like oh....I don't know....say a QB that's thrown 7 INTs in the last 3 games (ND is 1-3 the last three weeks). Golson's only thrown 11 all year. Kellymight be pissed Golson is regressing. Again, the frustration is understandable.
5. Different people are motivated differently. What would be a public, humiliating, out-of-line and denigrating situation to you, could put a serious chip on someone else's shoulder...enough to motivate them to perform a shit ton better. Coaches know what motivates different players better than the fans or the press. Some players need positive encouragement. Others might need their ass drop-kicked into next week.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yosemite Sam douchebag? Definitely.||
And yeah it's entertaining. But at least Brian Kelly can coach college football.
He won at GVSU. He won at Cincy. And he's turned around what used to be a point-and-laugh-at-them-because-they're-arrogant-past-dwellers dumpster fire of a football program at ND (look at 44-17). With NW, Louisville and at USC, 10-2 is not an unlikely outcome either.
He's as pissed off as Bo used to get when players effed up or turned the ball over repeatedly.
As for Michigan's next coach, who's to say he won't be a tantrum throwing bottle of nitro? I'm not saying he's coming to UM, but maybe we might decide to be careful we don't say words we have to eat later on during 4-8 or 5-7 year one starts:
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I feel like I was Mooned||
I feel like I was Mooned during this game. Over and over and over again.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Tim Drevno might be Harbaugh's OC/OL coach candidate||
He has followed Harbaugh from UC-San Diego to Stanford to SF 49ers.
Obviously someone who Harbaugh trusts and is comfortable with:
Drevno is currently the OL coach at USC. Trojans are ranked 57th in rushing YTD.
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||Remember when Jim said "That's because you ate Arby's coach..."||
|3 weeks 2 hours ago||Remember when Jim forgot that he ate Arby's for lunch....||
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||So it was Dave all along? Goddammit!||
"We do not disclose information about injuries."
When corporate goons run athletic departments, PR and other policy fuckups can happen.
Nice one Dave.
And you would have got away with it too, if it weren't for those damn, pesky kids!
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Harbaugh played QB so it's a two-for-one deal||
We can haz QB coaching and development? Maybe?
I think Harbaugh was a Heisman trophy candidate if I remember correctly....
Yep finished 3rd, and passed for more yards than Vinny Testmypatience.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Brad Bates and Bo Schembechler, Punt Team, 1981 Rose Bowl||
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Well said, but one more||
I could be wrong about this,but I think Michigan has suffered more than most other teams in the nation over the last 10 years in their recruit evaluations being way overblown (overstated recruit talent).
This is nothing new for Michigan football historically speaking, but it's getting pretty godammned old if you ask me. Name one other college football team that lands Top 15 recruiting classes on a consistent basis and loses quite as many or more games as Michigan does? Not many. Michigan had the No. 1 class in the nation back in 2005, and it flamed out spectacularly. What I'm saying is that Michigan has quite possibly the worst luck in recruiting outcomes in the nation for many, many years.
I agree that the coaching has been very poor under Hoke (what could one expect afterall with washouts/hangerson from Ball St. and SD State?) and only undermines the potential outcomes further. But I also think that talent assessments of Michigan's recruited classes by major press orgs have been prejudiced and just way off the mark. Given recruiting hauls the last 10 years, MSU and Wisconsin have absolutely no business winning division and Big Ten conference titles and going to Rose Bowl. Yet that's exactly what's been happening. They are hauling in 2 and 3 star recruits and churning out mid- to high-functioning offenses and defenses by national standards, not just shitty Big Ten standards.
This was the year Michigan could put to bed the consequences of the 2008 and 2010 coaching turmoil. But now we will enter it all over again. The good news? It's ironic, but Michigan will likely have a very poor measured recruiting class for 2015, which of course translates into the Wolverines winning a national title game in 2018 of course.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||7 years ago we wanted to draw and quarter the guy||
for his stupid, incorrect, inaccurate, holier-than-thou statements about Michigan "shepherding" student athletes. He really said some very stupid things and he's not the kind of personality to apologize for that. Ever.
Fast forward 7 years later and many seem to already be placing advanced reservations at the table of "I'm Offended!" and "I'm totally going EMO Chernobyl-style you guyz!" if Harbaugh decides not to coach our favorite football team.
I personally cannot imagine Jim Harbaugh coming to coach at Michigan, since things are really uncertain in Ann Arbor right now with the AD, and he's got a known-quantity, good thing going, though perhaps not 100% ideal, in northern Cal. Perhaps he can be convinced. I don't know. I just have too many doubts.
The way things have been going negative-kharma-wise for Michigan football that last 10+ years, an outcome where Harbaugh says to Michigan "thanks but no thanks" is the only one that seems to be in perfect alignment with the aforementioned kharma/trajectory of things.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||He probably would explode with the right coaching||
and personal motiviation. Not to mention a halfway decent QB and OL.
Get the ball signed anyway.
He'll either flame out spectacularly or be a mushroom cloud-laying MF at the next level. I can't tell which.
With only 48 receptions for <600 yards and only 4 TDs after 9 games, it's really not very good. Dropped passes are just not good signs. But with such poor coaching, inconsistent offensive line play and a frantic, perpetually spooked and injured QB, I'm not sure that high expectations of performance are at all rational.