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|2 hours 13 min ago||No buyout if he signs w Michigan||
So now that the papers have been alledgedly delivered for his review, he can sign at anytime. They can even structure it so he can sign starting Jan 1st unless the Nines fire him earlier, etc.
And if he signs the can(attempt to) delay the official announcement until the 29th.
|9 hours 46 min ago||Nice job||
couldn't have said it better.
These kids have four years to state their case for the NFL. Going into an unknown is a huge risk. Rather than telling them to fuck off, perhaps asking them to reconsider is the wiser, more understanding course.
|11 hours 32 min ago||Eh - I think you're overblowing||
if true, we offered Harbaugh for realz top dollars for NFL and College coaches. If he turns down the offer, the entire fan base can comfortably be done with him, and A list coaches thinking about being plan B know we ain't kidding this time.
This is a brash, no fucking around, move. And now that it is out there, Harbaugh has to publicly declare sooner or later. The leak may have been intentional to force some hands to be shown.
I like Hacket's game.
|18 hours 8 min ago||Was wondering how NFL contracts affect this||
From what I have read on the 29th there are several scenarios:
1) JH quits (and owes the Niners buy out money?)
2) Another NFL team offers JH, JH accepts, and they compensate the Niners with buy out money, and a trade (Jon Gruden precedent).
3) Another NFL team(s) offer JH and he declines, in which case:
a) the Niners retain him as head coach for his final contract year - or -
b) they fire him and owe him the final year of his contract
4) JH takes the Michigan job (for which he does not owe a buy out?)
Do I have these right???
You're Jim Harbaugh - what do you do? You wait, check the NFL options, and either do 2 or 3 a or b + 4 having leveraged 2 to get the most out of Michigan. (Who in their right mind would want to coach the Jets, Browns, Phins or Raiders? Chicago I can see.)
At some point on the 29th Harbaugh and the Niner's owners will be playing high stakes poker and bluffs will be called.
|22 hours 14 min ago||Why would the marketing guy||
be in the inner circle of a confidential coaching hire, and have that information to leak?
The only reason to loop him in, is if you have a signed deal and he needs to spin the announcement .... IT'S HAPPENING!!!!
|22 hours 20 min ago||No, no, no||
His office is where the golden toilet will go.
|23 hours 6 min ago||I don't||
what a stupid time to stick your head up out of the foxhole and say something as callous as he did. It's like he was asking for a package. (Which maybe he was.)
|1 day 1 hour ago||Total control in the NFL||
Ah ha ha ha ...
|1 day 1 hour ago||We spent every year||
But the "growing years" hoping we'd get past ND with a win. The ND game determined if we were on track for a run at the National Championship because pre-BCS you had to go undefeated.
If we made it into the conference season undefeated then there was upstart Big Ten team that year leading to The Game, which was the ticket to the Rose Bowl.
The tension was don't lose a game, and after that get to the Rose Bowl. It was still a tragic tension but the first loss took you out of an NC run - it didn't lead you to assume a disaster of season was about to unfold. (Even when Jimmy broke his arm.)
And so, we were bummed if we lost early or to the upstart team, but had or steam back for OSU. S party was a side show.
That was '83 - '87.
|1 day 18 hours ago||Yeah - a little sharpie action||
and he is good to go!
|1 day 20 hours ago||I agree with you||
And I think it's been Harbaugh for quite a while - maybe even before Brandon exited, at least as far back as Sam's initial Wheatley slip and everyone including Lloyd Carr saying they think Harbaugh is the guy.
Everyone is acting weird with slips around the edges because the inner circle thinks it's right that Harbaugh finish his season first and at the same time are greasing the skids for a smoother start.
Something happened in SFO before the Seattle game in SFO to cause the players to half ass it in the game and all the dysfunction to spill out onto twitter afterwards, and then it went silent and amiable again yesterday. I think the deal was penned in Seattle. (Any Kalitta charters coming back from Seattle? Even connecting somewhere else?)
All of this is e-pionion sure, but we outer circle have to let the chess match play out here.
|2 days 9 min ago||Not to mention||
a relative dysfunction-less 49ers set of statements. It is like a decision has been reached, so everyone can settle down.
|2 days 11 min ago||Will you please||
We're dying ovah heah ...
|2 days 11 hours ago||The don't have gold toilets at the HoJo||
nor on the Gulfstream (too heavy)
Yeah - Harbaugh is a control guy - and the good NFL teams that offer up control are few and far between. I think there is a lot of NFL wonk BS out there.
It comes down to the lure of a CoFoPo championship vs a Superbowl championship.
|2 days 14 hours ago||I think Harbaugh just found out the hard way||
that an NFL coach is just some rich guy's toy. At the end of the day, the players get paid by said rich guy, so they effectively report to the rich guy, so does the GM, which means the coach has very little leverage.
A lot of dysfunction in the NFL comes from this, SF, Dallas, Washington, Miami, ... all great examples of coach wanna be rich guys meddling too much with the team and running coaches through revolving doors.
Do we really think a Saban or a Meyer would want to subject themselves to that? I am hoping Jim Harbaugh has decided he's done with it too.
|3 days 9 min ago||Hey have you suffered through back pain ....||
it was medicinal man ....
|3 days 2 hours ago||We miss ya||
big guy ...
|5 days 15 hours ago||It's the power of the Block M||
not what is behind it that is captivating your attention.
|5 days 15 hours ago||I don't understand why they feel the need||
to entertain us. We have been on waiting lists and coming to games for years in 100000+ droves, cheered the team, watched the band warm up, or the drum line perform on the steps, etc. All of that plus the tailgating experience with friends and family or the lawn parties on the way, the band before the game and during the half, the banner, and a really good football game played by a great home football team - that is what we want.
That is why people come back to Michigan to watch football - emotionally they can not get the same connection anywhere else.
If Brandon's crack team of geniuses keep it up, I'll be able to get the same exact entertainment I get at a Hurrcane's game, or a Durham Bull's game, or an NC State game, or a Panther's game. Heck our high school football team plays the same music. They don't understand what the golden goose is made of.
|5 days 21 hours ago||The results depend||
on the objectives set forth. I am sure Dave and Brady met the objectives at the time.
|5 days 22 hours ago||The linemen||
have been young. Next year they should be (maybe except Cole) close their "mature" playing weight.
So looking at them this year or last, is not an accurate look.
|5 days 23 hours ago||My view||
either research it before you say something, or don't say something about what you don't know.
His whole point was we haven't had a lot of people drafted, which is a trailing measure of the exact hole we have been wading through. But his error was using the trailing measure as a leading measure for the current roster talent.
|6 days 15 hours ago||Sorta like Bo and Woody||
Great competitors like great competition ...
|6 days 15 hours ago||This would be hilarious||
And a great fit.
They ought to take a pass at Brady Hoke as well.
|1 week 18 hours ago||Yep||
Guess I'll stand by my initial "toddler" response, agree with BiSB, and be done with it.
|1 week 19 hours ago||Yeah - I missed it||
and then I got it when you edited my initial post.
You are right, these are internet message boards, and attempts to discuss hot button social issues will likely devolve. For Monocle - my intent was to initiate a discussion based on the description of a problem written by a psychotherapist (granted his opinions were not acceptable) and a Time article, not a flame war.
All that said, if we in society do not discuss these issues - instead simply avoid discourse because we are afraid of it getting out of control - then how do we resolve them?
FWIW - I think the whole thread should be locked or removed because there are several jests made at the expense of a rival in a situation that shouldn't be made light of . It reflects badly, particularly given Michigan's own recent incidents.
|1 week 20 hours ago||Just never mind||
No one is big enough to rationally discuss
|1 week 20 hours ago||Never mind||
[Edit: never mind]
|1 week 21 hours ago||A counterpoint worth discussion||
[ED:BISB - Nope. Not a counterpoint worth discussing. Not a counterpoint at all. Just some amazingly convoluted stuff that we AREN'T GONNA DISCUSS HERE]
|1 week 23 hours ago||Which headline do you run with?||
Oh yeah, Michigan reached out to David Cutliffe to gauge his interest in being considered for the Michigan job, and had said he was happy at Duke thank you
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OMG! MICHIGAN OFFERED DUKE (YES DUKE) HEAD COACH THE JOB AND HE TURNED THEM DOWN!