"In response to CBSSports.com's request for Michigan's concussion management protocol, the athletic department sent the NCAA's 11-page document for treating head injuries."
|13 hours 29 min ago||They may prefer||
you donate to the University and purchase season tickets.
|13 hours 35 min ago||You can tell he's been managing back room||
since the Coke scandal - or maybe the first Gregg Henson post - broke. The parade of Stephen Ross, various former players, and people in the press backing Hoke last week, and even the announcers backing Hoke at the end of the game were orchestrated by someone. Then there are the statements about the Shane scandal which are a bizarre mix of DB obfuscation tactics and Brady Hoke ramblings.
So it would appear he is still pulling the strings, and shoring up his political base (big donors and regents), while avoiding attachment to the current staff twisting in the breeze.
We'll know he has landed like a cat if he re-emerges spouting something about reviewing the football program at the end of the season.
|14 hours 35 min ago||I am surprised they didn't meet you at the door||
pull your press pass, and turn you away. You know, the Bacon treatment ...
|17 hours 36 min ago||Here's where Hoke was annouced||
Some other gems:
Aaaannndd, the best for last:
|20 hours 8 min ago||In the time between Shane coming off the field||
and him going back out when Gardner's helmet came off, did the medical staff or trainer test or evaluate Shane Morris for a concussion? Yes - or - No?
|20 hours 13 min ago||I have been wondering if they did that||
to permanently shut up all the Gardner detractors. Or if something had transpired that Gardner was intentionally benched for the game (like Peppers). Gardner sure looked pissed, and was not supportive of Shane in the way he had been against Utah.
|20 hours 18 min ago||Look how Morris looks||
as he wobbles and looks about to go down, then leans on Braden and Braden almost has to hold his hand to keep him up, then as he's waving Nuss off his arms are flailing in an odd limp manner like he is drunk or something ...
Tell me - if it was your son - whether he may not have taken a helmet hit - would you want him pulled and evaluated right then for a concussion?
If aa a parent I could see what I saw real time on TV, security would have been dragging me off the field (or maybe an OSU coach would have tackled me), because I would have been going over the wall to stop play.
|20 hours 29 min ago||You could still hear||
"Fire Dave Brandon" on TV. It was glorious. I am very proud of our students for speaking up.
|20 hours 33 min ago||Eh rats||
I would absolutely vote for Brian if I could.
|20 hours 35 min ago||Not absovling Michigan of anything||
but I agree, the Big Ten has some questions to answer here as well - both around the officiating crew's inaction, and the penalty called.
If an officiating crew cannot stop play unless a player is down, that rule should be changed - like a TKO in boxing. Even then, there are rules, and there is common sense - or doing the right thing.
|21 hours 7 min ago||Holy Shit||
How does one vote for Regent? Do Alumni get a vote?
|22 hours 9 min ago||Yeah - it was clear in my eyes||
that Nuss should have pulled Morris out - even with Morris waving him off, AND the trainer should have evaluated him for a concussion.
Before we get all self-congratulatory however, I truly wonder how excised the fan base would be, and how much easier it would be to settle them if we were 5-0 coming off a year like 2011.
|22 hours 22 min ago||That was the point||
to make you feel stupid, like you don't understand and they do, so you should sit down and shut up.
|22 hours 24 min ago||Not only that||
they were looking at his leg, and not his head. So I guess millions of people mis-saw what we saw.
It's all over folks - move along - nothing to see here but a really sucky season of "Michigan" football.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Uh go watch the video clip Brian posted||
and tell me with a straight face, if that was your son - never mind if he wants to stay in or not - would you want the coaches to pull him and have him evaluated, and not let him back in the game a few plays later until they were certain it was safe?
It doesn't matter if Shane actually has a concussion or not. Most of the stadium, the TV announcers, and almost everyone watching at home could clearly see that young man needed to be pulled and evaluated for his own safety.
I don't hold a torch and pitchfork on this issue, but the AD's response clearly completely avoids the specific concern that has been widely reported. This is a clear integrity issue, and the press release is disingenuous.
I don't think Nuss is clean on this either just because he can't call a timeout. Nor the refs. Someone on that field or on that sideline should have done something.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Um - ok||
so lets suppose Shane refused to go down when Nuss told him to, and he stayed on the field. They then pulled him two plays later. Then Shane was evaluated during the game and found not to have concussion symptoms - why not come out and say something like "while the hit shown in the media certianly looked bad, and Shane seemed unstable, he was evaluated by our staff in the game, and afterward and found not to have a concussion. The instability was due to a leg injury and the pain from it" in this press release?
Because the lawyers are covering up the truth. They'll hide behind HIPPA next.
|1 day 9 hours ago||Even better||
They did the right thing and removed Shane Morris from the game for sustaining a leg injury (like three times!).
No mention of the apparent head trauma and his inability to stand clearly shown in video, nor whether he was evaluated for a concussion, much less if he passed or not, and then they put him back in!
Oh and I forgot that they didn't evaluate his leg when he initially sustained the injury.
Did anyone expect an honest and complete answer versus the short defensive blame deflecting bullshit we read here?
|1 day 15 hours ago||aren't we all the same people||
who were appalled when Lewan grabbed a guys face mask in the pile or shoved Tom's face into the turf? Do we think Lewan was doing that because he was a thug?
I agree it would be nice if someone got up in that dudes face and yelled at him, but Hoke has coached his guys not to do anything that may incur a penalty - and he himself doesn't go all Bo on the refs (never mind that he doesn't have a headset to throw).
|1 day 17 hours ago||I have come to the conclusion||
that Hoke is like a position coach with a head coach title. It's OK for D line coaches to watch the line play , coach his players up as they come off the field, and try to keep everyone's spirits up. Those things can be accomplished without wearing a headset or having to be aware of how many other players are on the field, etc. Heck, the players probably love that he does this.
|1 day 20 hours ago||I wonder if they were||
arguing about the decision to leave Shane in or send him back in when Gardner came out. You would think DB had recognized or been informed of the PR issue and he was down their intercepting the coaches before the press conference so they could do their usual arrogant, blame avoiding spin attempt.
|1 day 21 hours ago||I agree with this||
Ohio is now Ohio State - and we still hate Ohio State!
|1 day 21 hours ago||Agree on Brandon||
To me, a major reason we are in this situation now - and offense with no senior leaders - is "the process". If Hoke (or whoever) had been hired a month earlier - he (they) would have had time to assess the recruiting class and possibly fill in some developmental prospect o-line types.
That recruiting class was critical to the transition - it was obviously flagging as the sharks circled Rodriguez. Doing things the Michigan Way - so Brady (or Harbaugh if you believe they were serious about offering him) could finish their bowl game - is hurting these players in a big way now.
|1 day 21 hours ago||Not to mention||
he is still saddled with Michigan Man approved position coaches who conform to the plan even if they can't coach the detailed technique to support it.
I agree, I am questioning Nuss - he looks worse than Al in points scored at this point - but how much of that is the Scott Shaefer situation all over again.
|1 day 21 hours ago||I think the split in the locker room is this||
The defense up to this point has improved, and has been looking to be pretty strong. Brady and his defensive coaching staff are good at developing defensive talent.
The offense is mired by a system designed for 4th and 5th year seniors executing to perfection - at least on the line. In Bo's Lasting Lessons, there is a passage on Bo insisting on exact splits and execution in practice. He measures with a yard stick and whack's the guy who is off by a fraction of an inch. Does anybody here think Brady Hokes offensive staff is able to instill that level of detail in our players?
Then there is overall detail management: the delay of game penalty just before the half of the Miami (NTM) game, the 10 players of the field put formation fiasco, and no one realizing Shane couldn't stand up fiasco yesterday are all examples of detail management. If you are a head coach and you are not the offensive decision maker, or the defensive decision maker, you should at least be aware of how many players are on the field, how much time is on the clock, and whether someone is hurt.
You know what - I'd bet someone yelled into the headset - the play clock is about to expire, or we only have 10 guys on the field, or Shane's hurt - looks like he got clocked. But the kid who stands near Brady with the headset couldn't relay the message in time. Brady Hoke looks clueless on the field in these losses because he doesn't know what is going on in time to react to it. He coaches after the play is over.
I am calm - I wasn't even angry yesterday. I have seen enough to know that Brady Hoke isn't Bo, he isn't Mo, and he isn't Lloyd Carr. Michigan Man or not, it is apparent to me that he is increasingly failing as Michigan's head coach.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Actually, I sort of agree with the OP here||
Since Hoke has been here, there has been increasing ineptitude on offense. Whether it is due to youth. small mistakes, execution, or play calling, or all four, it doesn't matter. The quarterbacks in particular, the running back, and the wide receivers are getting killed out there - week in and week out. This year, and last.
To some extent, we were pissed about Gardner getting killed all last season, and poor damned Toussant. We aimed (maybe misguidedly) our frustration at Borges and Funk. We got Borges' head and thought we'd be better with Nuss.
Now it is just obvious that the real problem is in a management system where the head coach meets with the OC twice a week, whether they need to our not - and while that seems hands off - remains loyal to his position coaches and sets an overall strategy for the offense that is simply not attainable with the young personnel on hand. Hoke does not recognize the need, nor either direct or agree to the changes necessary to enable this set of offensive players to be successful.
If for nothing else, I think the entire offensive coaching staff (at the very least the tight end coach and the line coach) and Hoke should be gone for fielding an offense that puts the players they purport to care bout in extreme danger week in and week out.
FWIW - having Nuss on the field is not working. We need a QB coach and an OC. Rich Rod had McGee in the box to read the opposing teams defense, recognize down and distance, sense momentum, and call plays. Rich - with his headset on - sent those plays and checks in and added his sense or quick checks. Smith was on the field to coach up the QBs as they came off based on what was sent down from the box. Shane may have been pulled if there had been a decision maker in the box. Of course that would depend on Brady Hokes headphone GA getting the message to Brady Hoke fast enough to get him out.
|2 days 8 hours ago||Hi chitownblue!||
I've missed you buddy!
So much I double posted ...
|2 days 8 hours ago||Hi chitownblue!||
I've missed you buddy!
|2 days 12 hours ago||Does anybody think Lee Corso||
is crazy now?
|2 days 12 hours ago||I can hear||
"Fire Dave Brandon" on the TV
|2 days 13 hours ago||Can I go back||
and pick my score for the tshirt in the opposite direction?
|2 days 16 hours ago||Their stadium is full||
and people are happy and rockin'
ugh - just ugh
|2 days 19 hours ago||Indiana beat Mizzou||
Maryland almost beat WVU who hung tough with Alabama.
Are you so sure these teams are the pushovers you think they are?
|2 days 19 hours ago||Yep, we masses||
can just sit down and shut up now. Ain't nothing going to change.
|2 days 22 hours ago||Aaaand the bus has broken down twice||
in miserable places very early in this this journey so far.
|2 days 22 hours ago||It would be interesting to know what side of this Stephen Ross||
is on. Not to mention the other big donors like Al Glick, J. Ira and Nicki Harris, etc. Concerns could be anything from "if we change Brandon, we're more likely to change Hoke, and thus add to transition time", to the players and fans have decided that Brandon has strayed too far from the moral philosophy and values of Michigan football culture, and if you don't let him go and find someone to bring everyone back into the fold, you are likely to have a huge expense on your hands down on State Street as the revenues decline.
|3 days 16 hours ago||I am thinking there was Wisconsin Muppets||
|3 days 19 hours ago||My view is the odds makers are missing something||
Like which team displayed more derpitude completing 1 of 7, or ony scoring 3 pts offensively? This will most likely be a low scoring sloppy affair.
|3 days 21 hours ago||Actually, there was||
a holier than thow incident with Martin, and then - even if Rich was a great hire at the time - Martin botched transition communications (albeit, so did Rodriguez).
I'd give Martin a B-. He did wonderful things including financing the stadium updates, and hiring Belein. He blew it at the end though.
|3 days 21 hours ago||Or - they'll take the tickets||
when they buy the Coke they came in for anyway, and post em up on craigslist and if they don't sell toss 'em in the trash.
It will be interesting to see if the NW endzone is any more full this weekend with Coke ticket holders. (They are down to $22 on stubhub. You can get Penn State tickets for face value.)
Brandon needs to go. He put the free range golden goose in a battery cage and has pretty much worn it out.
|4 days 11 hours ago||PurpleStuff - I edited my comment before posting to||
include the "OK - you're right" part to mellow what I was saying because your first comment seemed dripping with sarcasm, and your response to me was confusing (sarcasm meter was foggy I guess).
I went ahead and posted the response anyway for the general apologist audience thinking the o-line is young and there is nothing to be done / next year will be better. This staff is out of excuses in my mind. I really hope they turn the corner on the field but most the indicators point in a horrifying direction.
I am equally as despondent.
|4 days 12 hours ago||OK - you're right - Molk was a Carr recruit||
He also was a starter as a redshirt sophomore (and Lewan was a redshirt freshman when he started getting playing time) - so why aren't our current big tough smash mouth redshirt sophomores recruited by Hoke and company performing well enough?
Rodriguez could develop young O-Linemen. Why can't Hoke?
|4 days 13 hours ago||If he can't plant his left foot to pass||
how the hell can he effectively run a pass route and jump up for a ball?
|4 days 13 hours ago||You forgot Molk||
How could you?!?
This is what cracks me up about this whole thing (or pisses me off - I flip back and forth).
The backroom (including that pompous ass Jim Stapleton) aligned to fire Rodriguez in bring in Hoke (and only Hoke), because Rodriguez wasn't playing tough smash mouth B1G football. A large part of the reason we have the roster holes we do is the backroom either directly, or through very loud lack of support, torpedoed Rodriguez's ability to recruit. Now we are four games into year three of anti-smash mouth football on the field of play.
Last week's game and ND were both unwatchable: the offense SUUUUCCKKKED.
I want to believe like Mattison and the players are asking us to, but I am not seeing it for offense in results on the field ... you sort of need to get to the red zone and score points to win.
Think on this: In year one of the Rodriguez regime, a Threetsheridamit lead offense scored 37 more points against Utah and ND with a noob O-Line (less collective starts than our current line by far). Sure ND was worse, but Utah was better. Can anybody think of a historically worse offense than 2008?
|4 days 16 hours ago||20-14 Michigan||
Little Brown Jug stays home.
|4 days 19 hours ago||Yeah - we tried that||
Denard's last year. If DG was the backup instead of a WR, then we still loose to Bama and the Irish, but we win Nebraska and end up in the BTCG.
No, just no.
|4 days 21 hours ago||Who is talking about this HARBOUGH guy?||
We're all talking about Jim Harbaugh ... the other guy who is being paid a bunch of money to coach NFL football and who's family live like royalty in sunny Palo Alto, and loves it. (It is not permacloud gray and cold from November to April out there - really.)
I think John is more likely than Jim, and neither is very likely (nor is Les). Also, if the Regents could just fire Dave Brandon, I'd be fine letting the season play out before deciding on Hoke and staff since Mattison and the players so strongly believe things will get better.
|5 days 19 hours ago||I agree with Marcus Ray||
They are improving, but I think it is still an O-line problem. This year's line problem appears to me to be the outside. My sense watching both ND and Utah is pressure on the outside is killing either quarterback's ability to go through a full progression and they end up either have to force or rollout or both. When the line tries to compensate and help outside, then the pressure gets through inside.
Net - those two NFL tackles the appologists were saying were not very important last year, and this year would be better because the more important interior line will had aged were drinking strong cool-aid.
|6 days 16 hours ago||While we're at it||
where is the Mike Hart, Terrence Taylor, Molk-Martin-and-van-Bergen, or Jim Harbaugh stepping up to will the team forward? No where. We don't have captains.
This team was tougher in '11 and to some extent in '12 where they believed in each other, and they fought through adversity. (Jim Stapleton is wrong.) Then - except for a few games - they became mush.
|6 days 21 hours ago||These things seem to happen in the midst of storms||
snowstorms, and hurricanes and such. So a post Notre Dame storm baby eh?
|6 days 21 hours ago||OK - does he||
Shield punt or pro style punt? (I looked for images on this but didn't find any. The underlying question is: how open is he to evolving with the game?)
|6 days 23 hours ago||Brandon went sailing||
He purposefully dragged his feet on Harbaugh. Hoke was the target all the way through. Harbaugh and Miles were head fakes to appease certain parts of the inner circle and fan base and ease Hoke in.
Realistically though, Harbaugh needed his time in the NFL: enough time to discover he's not the boss and it is a pain in the ass to manage prima donnas.
Also at this point, we'd really need to do some serious investigation on the other Harbaugh to figure out when exactly the Rice video was available to him.
|1 week 16 hours ago||You forgot||
not allowing coolers or food within a 20 block radius of the big house, and setting up "M Tailgating Tents" instead that do not serve alcohol, and charge $20 a plate for Chili's baby back ribs or Five Guys burgers.
|1 week 16 hours ago||Brandon didn't fire Rodriguez aftre Penn State||
He for damned sure won't fire his own Michigan Man hire now.
|1 week 16 hours ago||Good luck with that||
Contrary to popular opinion, Maryland and Rutgers both appear to have pulses.
|1 week 23 hours ago||Happy Monday||
to you too ...
|1 week 23 hours ago||That was before Gardner||
was beaten resulting in the current hollow PTSD Gardner.
|1 week 1 day ago||Doesn't seem in Hoke's wheelhouse||
Now Brandon however, somewhere in his marketing staff is the "what are they saying on blogs" person. And in that person's desk is an untraceable throwaway cell phone. If Brandon gives the nod the staffer calls a number and says "mgoblog" which launches a denial of service attack ...
|1 week 1 day ago||Yeah - when they ask about shield punting||
the lack of execution by not having 11 men on the field will be the way he redirects the question.
|1 week 1 day ago||Holy shit||
This was really well written, and I think the This is Michigan Football section is spot on. I am assuming they have sold more than 100,000 tickets per game so the attendance record will stand, but I am guessing 100,000 seats have not been filled yet this year, and they have to be feeling it in game day sales already.
The funny thing is, it seems like a lot of us are waking up and realizing that maybe keeping Rich Rod may have worked out better. heck at this stage, I am wondering if we should have kept Borges. They are both probably laughing today.
|1 week 1 day ago||I was thinking about that||
and it may be interesting to look back at MSU's early season stats to see if their offense acted in the same erratic way - putting up the yards but never getting to the red zone.
|1 week 1 day ago||No - the Item just did||
what ND did ... attack on the young edges. (Remember those two NFL tackles? At the very least they provided some confidence in protection. If you were a DC where would you attack this year?)
ND established the blueprint for this season and everyone in the Big now knows how to beat Michigan.
|1 week 2 days ago||If they stay, and DB||
doesn't dig us another recruiting class hole with another process
|1 week 2 days ago||Somewhere between depression||
and acceptance. I got more entertainment watching IU football than I did Michigan football today.
this is Michigan ?!?!?!?!?
|1 week 2 days ago||Serious question||
and I recall Rodriguez supporters facing the same question:
At what point do you stop supporting Hoke / admit this coaching staff is done.
When we fired Rich Rod, we whiffed on Harbaugh. When Lloyd retired Les Miles was coming to Michigan - then not - and we were to choice three or four when we hired Rodriguez. Sure fire replacements are never a sure thing.
So when is enough, enough?
|1 week 2 days ago||Sounds like fans didn't like||
the run call.
|1 week 2 days ago||Oh look||
Utah has captains - guys who lead ...
|1 week 2 days ago||Woooooooo!||
Frank gets HOME!
|1 week 3 days ago||You mean there are Walmart Spartans?||
or are they Dollar General?
Please note: this is a humorous comment made at the expense of the Walmart Wolverine complainin' and jokin' crowd at MSU, not at the socioeconomic status of an appreciated and welcome part of any school's fanbase. That form of humor is reserved only for Buckeye fans.
|1 week 6 days ago||Yes, as Patrick O'Brian||
instructs us through Captain Aubrey to Dr. Martin, you cannot sail by and large at the same time ...
|1 week 6 days ago||Yeah - thanks to the BTN||
I didn't have to unsee that game too - just the blcoked field goal, over and over and over again.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Well this could be interesting||
Next man up I guess.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah - if it is Akron/UConn 2.0||
oh man, rig for high winds and heavy seas.
But if it is 2014 App State - well we still don't know a damned thing.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I believe his W/L record||
is a major reason people like me, and Brian, and others were underwhelmed when Hoke was hired.
So I disagree - I think it is relevant.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Does the pep band still go around||
and play bullwinkle? (I don't remember them doing this during the Nebraska game last year, but I might have blocked it out.)
No TP, marshmallows and thermoses of hot chocolate and pepermint schnapps (or kegs before us) ... what do you guys do for fun these days? A least beach balls are still smuggled in ...
Have you taught the freshmen how to do the wave yet?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Gardner has to learn||
that everytime his adrenaline gets up because of PTSD from last year, he has to keep his head and not go all Superman. Forcing it creates extra risk.
Hopefully the next few homes games gives him enough time in system, with Nuss on the sideline to grow.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Keep in mind the Center calls||
the assignments for the line. Sometimes the strongest man isn't the best man for the performance of the entire unit.
If the coaches think Miller gives them the quick thinking they need for the line to function best as a team and as a bonus the quick feet for zone run blocking - then maybe we need to wait and see how they develop.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I wish just one reporter had asked||
what the hell was that? Wha happened? No angling for a QB controversy, or a center controversy, or how did Jake Butt feel. Just: please explain how you guys managed to lay such a big goose egg?
No one has asked, and the coaches have been very circumspect.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I used to listen to Carr's||
press conferences. He said absolutely nothing as well, except calling out the effort of some unsing player in prior games. After a while I decided it was a waste of time, but then I figured the entertainment value of listening for Carr to make some poor reporter look really dumb.
There is not real entertainment value in Hoke's conferences - the bullets are all you really need.
FWIW - Miller is staying in. Glasgow is practicing at Center as a backup.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Don't feel singled out||
Brian left out my Admiral of the Fleet David Beatty "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today" Jutland reference to how Delany must've felt Saturday night too.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Sorry - I have to laugh||
we are like a dog that chews on a bone, and then moves on to the next unchewed one over and over again and get the same result.
The system recruits talent still, but for some reason the system inhibits the talent from being fully recognized.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I thought about it||
but even though it is OTC now, there is not enough Nexium in the world to allow me to go through that again. Especially the 2nd half.
I do remember in the game thinking, hey - the line is holding up OK-ish. Hey, our runners are getting some yards - Smith more than Green. Devin looked good for the first third before PTSD set in. We were stuffing ND at the line, and Frank was oh so close several times, but Gohlson was a slippery bugger with a quick release (fortunately not Denard slippery). The line backer less Morgan even seem to have improved from App State.
I am going to assume with a new long snapper, holder and newish kicker it takes a while (and patience) to settle in.
For some reason this feels like year one of real quarterback coaching since Rod Smith was let go - and even then Rodriguez was calling in the adjustments from the sidelines - so I'll assume Devin settles his nerves and improves the post snap progressions part of his job.
Yeah - the egg laying of the vaunted deep seasoned aggressive secondary was the root of the Nexium popping for me ... that and having to listen to the Irish announcers and their fans - ugh. (I wonder if they have done a Benny Hill video montage yet.)
Anyway, I have recovered from the emo weekend, and now am in a place where I am hoping for pleasant surprises moving forward.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Aw man, there is not much that||
waters my eyes more than someone in the military coming home safe from a long deployment because I know exactly what that emotion feels like.
Congratulations on your safe return. Thank you for your service and perspective. We are honored to have helped support you.
Go Blue and Welcome Home!
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Fuck Wow||
I am sick of Brandon's wow.
I don't need wow. I just need good, competitive, watchable college football.
Texas home and home in college stadiums work for me.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Who are those fans||
because I sure didn't come across any on the way out to the car after the Nebraska game last year.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||These seem like softball questions too.||
What, was there a sign on the door: ask a biting question, and get moved to the Freep and John U Bacon equipment closet section of the press box?
Someone should have asked: "two weeks ago you said your were very excited because this defense is going to be special. What happened?"
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Had a dripping with heavy sarcasm tone||
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I am somehow more calm about the offense||
than the defense, and this presser adds to that.
All those people asking why he didn't throw it deep: at least in the second half he didn't have time - the pressure didn't allow him to wait - or at least it appeared that way to me.
Yeah there were some egregious plays (like the pull down fumble), but it appeared the line was more cohesively functional than last year. So hopefully that will grow and improve.
There were a few long yardage plays where I was asking why call a run on that play, but in general we put yards on the ground, but then we got bogged down as we approached the red zone. Time will tell.
The defense is what concerns me. Hopefully Mattison got more than softballs - specifically about the disconnect from his unbridled optimism about how great this defense would be, versus the reality of the result on the field Saturday.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Yes - I was thinking on this point||
yesterday, and thanks for the learned addition to the line of thought.
Bo got more from his players because they knew in no uncertain terms when they weren't doing it right. My son is not the best at the nuances of specific form. He got a dose of Coach Hanlon at youth football camp a few years back. It was interesting to see his back straighten, his head come up (the specific coaching point) and the added effort on the next snap. (JV football drives me nuts because the coaches pay all their attention to varsity, thus lazy habits in form are allowed to develop.)
Anyway, outwardly it appears there is something to this discussion. However, for all we know they do go hard on the players when stressing them. And I agree with the first poster that it needs to be nuanced.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||Hoke should have said it differently||
it was too easy for the press to blow out what he said as a broader headline to fan the flames. Instead of attacking "True Fans", he should have said anyone (not fans) directly harassing our players over social media, or otherwise need to think about how wrong that is, and behave themselves.
It probably would change much of the behavior, but the headlines would read differently.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Get in your grill||
and remind you of your job or you'll be benched.
Do you think Bo would have been clapping and cheerleading on the sidelines? He may not have had a headset on because it was a pile of twisted broken pieces ...
Players (and coaching staff) reaction to Brady: oh, it's OK. I just need to try a little harder.
Players (and coaching staff) reaction to Bo: Shit, I need to do this right and as hard as I can or coach will be in my ear and on my ass if I am lucky enough not to be benched or thrown off the team.
Go back and watch the CTK videos of Brady Hoke coaching. If we had JV or Freshman football - Brady would make a great coach in the transition to big boy ball. He'd make a great Jon Falk replacement too.
We have a soft team because we have a soft head coach.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Why those nice ND fans||
were just politely pointing the truth out to you ...
|3 weeks 22 hours ago||I would like to know why||
you and Bronxblue think it is any easier to deal with the expectations of fan base, big donors, and former players, ect. at any of the schools that are "destinations" these days?
ND went through how many coaches until they got their current fire breather? How many changes did Bama go through? Florida? Do we think Auburn is, or isn't a desitnation after the last coaching change. How many will USC go through?
Destinations probably all have this in common - perform or be gone. The truth is most of these schools found the guy after several tries. The eyeball test tells me the current one isn't the one.
|3 weeks 23 hours ago||Since we're talking about Bo||
who would you rather face after that loss? Bo or Brady?
Who do you think would be more capable of getting you to focus on the details like a well oiled machine?
The defense totally didn't show up to play. The side of the ball Hoke and Mattison coach. The side of the ball that all the pieces and depth are supposedly in place to be really special.
The Gardner-trying-to-force-things-to-happen-mistake-machine didn't get rolling until after the defense already lost the game.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||This is the question that should be asked by||
every reporter at every press conference this week. Perhaps leaving out the explicative.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I think we fell already||
or is this ineptitude and mediocrity is actually something better?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||It is not too soon||
we picked up where we left off last year. For all of Mattison's bluster about the defense being really special this year - they sucked - maybe worse than last year.
I actually think the O line looked OK, until ND found out about our tackles on the outside. Now everyone in the B1G knows.
Do we really want to suffer through year 5 to figure out if this is going to be anything other than mediocre to awful?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Exactly||
"we are Notre Dame" -- the pre-Kelly one anyway.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah, I'm thinking Maryland at home||
and Rutgers away look like toss ups or worse at this point.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Fuck, shit, damn||
and Fire Hoke - this staff sucks
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I say give it up||
we cannot cast stones.
We shouldn't be saying anything but it is good that FSU is doing the investigation, and hopefully both parties get a fair opportunity to state their case, and the case is considered with integrity.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Also out of state - before the last 6 years||
I would have said Ohio, ND and then State.
For whatever reason, a win against the Irish has not been a predictor of success, like it had been in the past.
Now that State has become so irritating, I say Ohio, State, ND. I might even rather beat State over Ohio: that is how irritating they have become.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||My son recorded his first in game tackle||
in JV football last night -- TFL -- after a two year struggle recovering from and ACL and meniscus tear!
A big smile was flashed ...
And Go Blue, beat the FigThing Chickens!
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Let's say MSU beats Oregon||
and Michigan beats MSU and wins the B1G ...
now let's say MSU loses to Oregon, and Michigan beats MSU and wins the B1G
In which scenario is Michigan more likely to get a playoff bid?
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I thought||
their eyes were on something else, while their paper was being written for them (let alone other body parts)
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Don't forget they time these things||
just to troll us.
I would love for Saturday to be a Benny Hill game.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||The there's the days where you just throw the clubs in the bag||
and volunteer to drive the cart while not holding up the other guys - and drink beer.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Eh - I still think||
blue compression shirt and the clowniforms would have been tolerable. Throw in blue or maize pants, and they would have been OK. If we had managed to beat MSU in the last seconds of the game, then we'd all love them.
|4 weeks 8 hours ago||Eh I still like||
JEHU COMIN' the best. He came in like a heat seeking missile and the poor App State dude never heard the missile lock warning.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||it seemed on TV||
like a lot more band playing lets go blue and less special k
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Fuck it||
|4 weeks 3 days ago||We thank you for your service to the MGoCommunity||
I for one am trying to remember what shirt or jersey I had on last time, and NOT wear it.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Maybe location dependent. Down here||
where the SEC is just as much despised by ACC fans. Instead all we hear about is how awesome ACC basketball is.
Anyway the Big Ten has been a running joke since 2006. So beleaguered B1G fans get along - sort of. There are still smug Ohio fans - talking a good game about how important our rivalry is, but knowing they have the upper hand. And I take stuff from State fans, and a guy I know who went to Illinois. But in general we all root for the B1G, even when it is hard to.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Good luck with that||
especially when they hit teen years. Somehow the truth becomes whatever way they need to twist reality necessary to support their point of view or justify what they want to do.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||At least here in NC:Parents are responsible for primary coverage||
and the school systems usually have a secondary coverage that covers what is not covered by the primary coverage. Sometimes they offer an primary coverage policy that parents can purchase if they don't have primary coverage.
This applies to high schools in NC - but I assume similar everywhere. (I don't think it applies at the middle school level.)
Coverage for rehab typically rehabilitates you for normal activity however - it doesn't extend to fully athletic recovery. Thus - yes - the sooner he gets to the Michigan strength and conditioning staff - the sooner he gets back to full capability.
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||Well - PGB can go knock himself out||
but I think he's established in his post that he is a fan, just not one of this game.
I believe the values we had when I attended Michigan was everyone has a right to their opinion, and we should have the respect to let them air it whether we agree or not ... I don't agree with yours our PGB's - but you both have made yourselves clear.
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||I didn't spend any time in Boone that year||
but it wasn't that horrible. I guess maybe because I felt they they had a right to talk - they beat us.
|5 weeks 22 hours ago||Hopefully Nuss' tutelage||
makes up for it, and Devin blossoms this year.
As I read the article, I could totaly see the Devin trying too hard. We could see it in 2012, but he was lucky. In 2013 it came out to bite him. I am hoping in 2014 we see a wiser Devin.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I don't have the entire context of||
Gardner's interview, so I am taking the whole discussion with a grain of salt.
I do however think that Nuss is probably a better quarterback coach for these guys than Gorgeous. At the very least you'd think he'd have more credibility coaching the QBs since he's been there and done that himself.
We'll see I guess.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I don't see this happening||
Our ones on offense need every bit of experience they can get.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||^This^ is why||
We should rely on the coaches to make the right decisions.
We don't know either the kid, the back story, or all the facts.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||^This^||
Center is a key leadership position, and we're probably better off starting either Miller or Glasgow who both have game experience than Kugler: someone entirely new for a third year in a row (actually we broke in 3 new centers in 2 seasons).
Of the three, Miller is the only one who has been at center his whole time at Michigan (if not in games, certainly in practice), so I would expect him to have the most experience at recognizing coverage and making assignment calls at the line.
Without two NFL bound seniors at either tackle spot to provide counter-guidance - perhaps these guys can act as one from the center out.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Oh come on||
clearly if Alabama or Ohio State or Michigan or USC, et al. come calling for you today, you are more likely going to choose one of them over Toledo or Utah or Boise, and there are only 85 scholarships.
Now if the big 5 are allowed to raise the number of scholarships back to 95 or 105, that would suck the talent out of the other conferences more than $2500 a year and a $5000 trust in licensing fees.
I don't see the equation changes much. It is David and Goliath now anyway.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah||
but I can buy a ticket for $20 and get there in 20 minutes.
Let's face it, they made it further in the ACC last year than we have in the Big Ten in a while. So we shouldn't cast stones.
Also, Coach K. has been advising Cutcliffe on how to build a program to a point to where they get significant alumni support. (He apparently is equating football to where basketball was when he came in.) So - probably not Stanford level - but Duke may actually be able to build themselves into at least a Northwestern like mold over the next few years.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Worse, he's being rewarded with a scholarship||
in spite of his crime when that scholarship could be rewarded to someone else who may be just as needy but in exchange would set a better example.
Honestly - it is probably best to let the police, and Hoke figure this one out. We don't know the whole story, nor (as Brian reminds us) the back story.
I was not wild about keeping Frank Clark on the team, but apparently (I think it was Rittenberg who wrote) Clark is a good guy who has really come a long way from very bad circumstances.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Well, I understood your meaning, but||
probably best to have left the Gibbons case out of it.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||As I said above||
there are other kids who'd never think of doing that who deserve a shot at playing football for Michigan before this guy. If Hoke and Brandon want to be a father figure for York on the side, I am fine with it. I don't want this kid taking up a scholarship that could be given to a deserving walk on or a deserving candidate in next year's recruiting class.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||This kind of scenario||
are part of the problem. I'd bet for every York, there are hundreds of kids who are a step slower, or not quite as strong, but would love to play football and be on scholarship at Michigan, or a JUCO or some other D1 school or try it in FCS or DII school. And those kids have never even thought about sucker punching a guy.
Why should this guy get a second chance? Because he is athletically gifted?
In my view the consequence of doing something like this should be no more football or scholarships. Those rewards should go to someone who deserves them. He should no have to make his own way in life. Otherwise what he has just learned is if he does something like this, there will always be a JUCO and then hopefully get picked up by some other D1 school or try it in FCS or DII.
Yes - there are solid reasons to hold up positive examples for what can happen if you do the right thing, and negative examples for what can happen if you do the wrong thing.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||I'm not ready to give up on Miller yet||
I keep hoping this is his Heininger principle year. He's the only one who has been all 4 years in a center role, was tutored (head butted) by Molk, and ought to be the best at the mental and leadership aspect of the position (which is exactly a place where the oline was lacking last year).
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Last I checked||
somebody put up numbers that showed 2 RSJrs = 4th season, and several RSSos = 3rd season. There is one real Sophomore in the mix who payed siginificant time last year. So the Oline is comprised of guys going on thier 3rd or 4th season. (Cole is going to be a backup to Mags). They've all got playing time.
At what point do Olinemen - especially highly recruited ones - become effective?
i.e., youth has ceased being an excuse. Frank, Devin and Jake can say they'll fight for Hoke all they want. Hopefully the OL have picked themselves up of the mat, got pissed, and have deicided to deliver together.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Well, since Shane Morris||
didn't show up in Chicago, they had to sensationalize something because God forbid the "news" we watch today not be sensational.
|9 weeks 10 hours ago||Yep that was my choice||
75 student school that is very deep on Naval Architecture, but no real college life - or - Michigan which is also a great NA&ME school - but you get a real college life with it.
It's great - to be - a Michigan Wolverine!
Counter point though - I cannot tell how they calculated the average net cost for Michigan, but I bet it is way higher than 95K for the 40% from out of state. So either there is a wicked double humped normal curve, or they only used in state numbers. Hard to tell.
|9 weeks 15 hours ago||Webb is a very small naval architecture college||
on Long Island. They actually are one of a handful including Michigan (MIT, Naval Academy, and Berkeley) for that degree. I believe every student attending is on a scholarship so the ROI probably closes nicely. Even with the lack of ship building in the US, there is the offshore oil business to go into.
|9 weeks 19 hours ago||WTF is "wow" anyway?||
the "wow" I want is Denard-like wow, or Desmond-like wow, or ...
Who needs "wow" like giant noodles.
The night games have been awesome productions. Every game doesn't need to be that way. Especially when the excitement starts happening on the field. Not to mention "wow" costs money and I'd bet people don't care to pay for "wow".
Want to beat the couch: increase game day excitement thru better play on the field (hopefully coming), use the scoreboards like the TV is used at home (detailed replays - score updates and highlights from around the B1G and the nation) and not for "have your wedding at the Big House" or "I can't hear you!" and fix cell phone and wifi coverage (reportedly coming), and reduce the hassle and price gouging at every turn.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I agree with your||
view of 2012 and I also think recruiting is going swimmingly consodering last season.
Now if our collection of O Linemen entering their third plus season in system can show us growth then I think we could start rolling
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Don't forget Mo||
either. Devin's got some targets with sticky fingers.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||I am sure the fireworks were to be timed||
to "Hail", "Leaders", "Best", "Champions" and "West" ...
|10 weeks 4 days ago||See, I am thinking this whole fireworks thing||
is a big red herring, and am wondering what Dave will slip by us while we are dazzled by the fireworks flameout.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Good luck with that||
Your kids will be on you like flies starting in 2nd or 3d grade. Going to Middle School was the "Dad I need a cell phone because everyone else has one and I am being left out" point for all three of my kids.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||The funny thing is||
if they put the exact same simple Michigan gear up at every press release, and moved this stuff down to the kids collection, the collective fan base would be praising Adidas.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Interestingly the coaching staff||
seem to be showing optimism based on depth, like they think they have the piece parts to make a solid run. I know "competition" and "no entitlement" are coach speak, but 2007 was the last time I remember confidence in depth coming from Ft. Schembechler.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||re: Jack Miller||
'Nuss said one of our problems on the line is we were missing an experienced center who can recoginize coverage and communicate assignments. We've had three new centers since Molk left. The last one will be out for at least the first game.
Part of me really wants Jack Miller to prove everyone wrong and take the lead this summer, rather than rotating through more inexperience.
|13 weeks 20 hours ago||I think the point was||
Tate worked most of his life for his season and backup moments of glory, and he did not fully profit from it like he would have on a free market and now that opportunity has likely passed him by.
By extension most college football players highest earning potential is in the college system.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Sorry||
I am glad we advanced, but I don't get the process. We tied and lost and are better off for it. Seems pretty un-American.
Probably a good thing we have a German coach who understands these nuances.
Brian likely was posting sarcastically, but I just don't see how losing and lucking into the next round by means of point differential wizardry warrants muppets.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||What on earth is on cable tv||
that is not ESPN, better broadcast sports signal, and BTN that people would actually pay to get / can't get on the web somewhere?
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Didn't the B1G open an office in Washington in addition to NYC?||
It's about to come in handy ....
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Anything over the table||
is less corrupt than under.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Actually what Delany said||
(specifically the bit about practice and the ability to do overseas study, etc.) coupled with these four bullets would be a great deal closer to putting student back in the equation. Add in the ability to work a summer job and sell your autograph (and pay taxes on both as income), and I think they're getting close.
|14 weeks 11 hours ago||yeah||
nobody plays soccer in the South ... then my neighbors are wasting a lot of resources driving their kids (and teens) all over the place on exclusive travel teams.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Exactly - I skimmed this whole post||
and the questions that are of real interest to me are:
How much can we expect the O-line to improve, and how much can you do to account for their relative youth while driving offensive production?
Then something like:
When looking at teams like our 97 team or (cough, cough) Staee last year, it is clear how important an aggressive defense is to winning B1G championships. Did youth in our backfield last year cause a bend-not-break defensive strategy, and can we expect a different, hopefully more aggressive strategy this year?
|16 weeks 22 hours ago||I like Turn||
I am guessing Law and Order has a different, broader target audience. I hope Turn gets additional seasons.
No one in TV seems to understand niche marketing any more. It seems to all be about broadening sales rather than deepening brand loyalty. Hmmm ....
|17 weeks 3 days ago||I commented on that somewhere above||
Maybe I am naive, but I met the guy, and my impression of him doesn't square with Mr. Hyde, so I give him the benefit of the doubt.
I understand your opinion, have considered it since the Gibbons thing is disturbing. Your opinion is equally as reasonable though.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Yep - me||
I met him in person, and granted in a public context where he'd be on good behavior, but I can't square the Talor-is-nothing-but-a-no-good-thug-with-serious-issues judgement with the person I met, have seen in the press, and who Brady Hoke talks about like a proud father.
We expect these guys to be trained up to do battle and put them on a pedastal, and then shit on them when the job slips out in stressful public circumstances. The fact that he shoved the guy (which is effectively what linemen do to protect the quarterback), and the guy felt hurt enough to go to the hospital - should not surpise anyone.
Then there is this: you were shoved to the ground by a future 1st round draft pick. Is this an opportunity?
I am not blinded. I don't see Lewan as the perfect shining knight in armour everyone expects a Michigan Man to be (which is mostly unrealistic). I am not even on the fence, I think Taylor Lewan is generally the good guy we thought he was, who has made some youthful mistakes.
This was a minor bar fight - not a Philip Nelson situation. End of story.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Have you ever done one of those communication exercises||
where you say something, and by the time it is two people down the line it is totally different. I think Lewan said something similar to what was reported int he Gibbons case in an argumentative tone. The aperature of Lewan was his friend thought he had consent in a druken hookup with the victim and was in very big trouble, and Lewan was arguing that point of view. The aperature of the recipient was her friend felt she did not give consent and was raped and so the recipient heard (and saw) Lewan in a threatening manner. This discussion took part at a party, so just like the initial event noise and alcohol induced haze further clouds the recollection of words and intent not to mention the choice of words to start with.
So no. I don't think he's lying.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||I really hope he makes it through||
camp and gets the contract. He needs another shot, in a better o-line situation than he's had the last two seasons. I hope he gets it, and makes hay!
|17 weeks 3 days ago||I met Lewan once||
He seemed like the quirky, funny kid we all thought he was.
The OSU fan thing doesn't bug me too much. The OSU fan was getting into a fight with Lewan's little brother, and Lewan did what big brothers do in that situation. (The OSU fan made a big miscalculation.) Frankly the whole legal part of it is a waste of time and taxpayer money. I am assuming the butt hurt OSU fan is pressing the case though just to keep on being a pain in the ass.
The MSU thing was over the line, but nothing like the head twisting of Denard two years before. It looked like he thought about it and decided not to do it, or he purposefully did it in a threatening but non-harmful way. Either way after all the outrage about what happened to Denard, Lewan should not have given MSU fans a counter claim like that.
Who knows on the Gibbons thing. I imagine he was again defending a friend, and in his youth said something that sounded threatening (or came across threatening because of his size), when he was really arguing his friend's side of the story. Sensitivities being what they were given the nature of the situation, that was heard and interpreted as a threat, which when re-communicated to the victim made it seem even more threatening. Of course all that is conjecture, and the police properly took it serious enough to talk to Lewan and straighten him out.
So yeah, his legacy is a bit of good and bad. We could all be black and white holier than thou and proclaim him a Richie Incognito type, but then, a lot of 18 - 22 year old young men say and do stupid things on the road to maturity. They just aren't scary big 6'-8" 308 lbs young men.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||Here's the site I kept coming back to for research||
I have an 9 year old Sony HS-VPL51 in a windowless media room in my basement. My family loves it for sports and movies. It is a 720p projector, and if your up close you get screen door effect, but from any normal viewing distance the picture is awesome. (My point is you you don't need the highest resolution to get a great picture 720 or 1080p is good enough.)
My suggestion is to research projectors for your room environment before you buy.
Also, while a white wall will work, you'll probably also want to get a screen - especially in room with windows. I have an inexpensive 120" one made by elite screens. The reflectivity of the screen material helps a lot when we have the room lights turned up - primarily when watching sports either socially or while live blogging.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||I would like to seem them include||
25 kids who play baseball, and 25 kids who play soccer, and 25 kids who play hockey, 25 kids who play lacrosse, and 25 gymnasts, and 25 kids who longboard with no helmet, etc.
It seems like all these studies focus on football, and head trauma is common in other sports as well.
This is all about choice. If someone chooses to longboard without a helmet, they are responsible for the risk of brain trauma from an accident. (My son and I argue all the time about wearing a buckled helmet / "but dad many guys don't: it's not cool".)
The point is these people are gifted at something, and love doing it despite the risk, AND many pursuits hold a risk of brain trauma. Should the risks be reduced through rule, care, and technique changes, and better protective technology? Yes.
Ah heck, I guess we all should not leave our houses and get our sports fixes from nice safe video games instead .... we're certain to have a longer lifespan that way /s
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Not to mention, it is kind of hard to go through progressions||
when you just spent your pre-snap thinking "oh God, not again. which of the front seven are going to kill me this time ...", and then have that seven come at you so fast you don't have time to go through progressions.
It looked to me like Gardner (for the most part) did not have the flexibility in Borges' system to make checks at the line: just line up and say "for those about to die, we salute you!" and hope the called play works.
Meanwhile, Miller had play changes signaled in from Urban once the defense lined up every play.
This is where I hope Nuss' system helps Gardner: it gives him a set of contingencies off the base line up so Gardner can read a defense and check a play pre-snap. (It would have made all the difference at Penn State.)
|20 weeks 6 days ago||It is precisley this sentiment||
that got us beat the first time around.
Our game is App State's first game in the FBS. This doubles the opportunity to make a statement, and they'll dedicate their summer to winning it - just like they did last time.
Meanwhile, back at the fort we'll fret about beating ND the following week and how to best line the OL up especially with Glasgow out. Do you think our guys will watch App State film in their spare time this summer or ND/MSU/OSU?
Want to bet App State will be watching Michigan and Alabama film all summer, and salivating at how they'll beat our OL?
|20 weeks 6 days ago||We hired Brady who???||
Coming off 4 years of embarassing suckage.
They hired Urban Meyer, evil genius festooned with NC rings and a decade of success with one year of NCAA induced turmoil. Not to mention Urban only had to recruit while the existing staff prepared for the bowl OSU should have voluntarily forgone.
The difference in ability to sway a recruit in the last months before signing day in any comparative scenario were in Urban Meyer's favor anyway. So that comparison is pretty weak.
That said, Hoke is a trenches recruiter, and I think we could have saved the OL class in some contributing manner if he had been hired earlier.
The Process was intentional for whatever reason. This is why I believe it will e very hard for Brandon to fire Hoke if this season goes very badly.
|22 weeks 8 hours ago||You know||
when I went to Michigan I was an 18 - 21 year old kid. My Navy ROTC scholarship included the cool feature of drug testing - particularly before major events like summer cruise or coming back to school. If you tested positive you found a lawyer and claimed poppy seeds, but lost your scholarship (which was a big deal if you're out of state even back then). I knew guys that took that risk. I didn't.
It was a stipulation in his scholarship - NCAA rules - and for damned sure they were testing everyone in the tournament. He had to know the risk, he took it, and he was caught.
In his case his teammates pay for it next year.
Both guys don't seem to have taken lessons from Hagerup or Stonum, et al.
I don't feel sorry for Mitch and I am not mad at the NCAA in this case Bad decision. One that an 18-21 year old can decide not to make, even in Ann Arbor. End of story.
|22 weeks 22 hours ago||But we can't anymore apparently||
nor can we build ships with 16" guns or 12 inch armor plate anymore.
I read somewhere that the race to the moon cost us 5% of the US government budget for much of the 60's. Of course we did get tang and space food sticks out of it.
|22 weeks 3 days ago||That's who||
the 65th team is. And if either winner of the Rose Bowl or the whatever the other SEC-ACC-ish bowl is called look weaker than ND - then ND gets the second national title game shot .... /s
|22 weeks 4 days ago||I graduated in 1987||
and I am not sure what a radio is, or at the very least what it is used for anymore other than to listen to fools talk, and ads.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Need MOAR||
|22 weeks 5 days ago||I was thinking about this today||
Exactly which minor league has major TV revenue contracts and can charge $95+ a seat per game?
Do TV contract dollars rise and fall as specific athletes come and go?
Name the top 100 minor league baseball players quickly .... the top CFL or Arena League players ...
It sure seems to me that the brand value of Michigan Football (though very tarnished lately) and Big Ten football drive a lot of the revenue that the athletes believe they drive. If there was a minor league football option, do we think the BTN contract would be measurably smaller? Crowd sizes at Michigan Stadium, etc.?
I am thinking most of the student athletes are getting more value from college football (TV exposure, name recognition, etc.) than we are accounting for.
I agree with doing the right sorts of things; Olympic model, non-revenue agreements with agents, endorsement revenue, ltd/workmans comp, 4 year guaranteed scholarships, better living expenses, summer jobs, etc.
I don't agree with direct employment.
|22 weeks 5 days ago||Don't forget||
the win-loss record of the coach
and the trajectory of the win-loss record
while we're at it the age of the existing team as it relates to opportunity for playing time. and the effectiveness of the team on your side of the ball
|22 weeks 5 days ago||I don't think he is toast at 9 wins||
but I agree with the rest of your statement.
|22 weeks 5 days ago||Not me||
I'll take either Harbaugh, and integrity.
I said it when we fired Rich - we need a name brand head coach whose recruits and players believe they are on the path to championships. The parochial non-name brand hire of Brady Hoke was an underwhelming gamble. It looked like it would pay out in 2011 ... down hill from there.
If they don't win in convincing enough fashion this year, I think next year is at risk and the hire is probably a loss. If they win convincingly enough this year (maybe back to 2012 level or a little better), then they have a chance of entering 2015 with positive momentum and a heavy upperclassmen team.
It is possible they can convert Brady Hoke into a name brand coach who exudes reason to believe. It doesn't look likely right now. We'll see.
As I said above: 2015 and 2016 are the years when the heavy recruiting classes should bear competitive fruit.
|22 weeks 5 days ago||Scholarship Limits||
Link reductions were made from 105 in 1978 (95) and again in 1992 which brought the limit to its present number of 85. The shift to 95 essentially drove Bo to a four year cycle - two progressive rebuilding years, a solid year and then the year. (Or at least this is how we felt in the 80's.) He was either caught by the change or intentionally stacked one or two consecutive recruiting classes. The shift to 85 just made it worse.
Interestingly along the way, some teams figured out how to stack the decks (tats and Dodge Challengers, apartments in LA, bag men, agent trips to Miami, oversigning, etc.). Those teams are the ones who have avoid the cycle of several 3-4 loss years with the occasional championship run.
Looking at our roster, this is should be the second rebuilding year or the solid year.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||We're also missing||
Mr. Smith ... and he can block!
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, the guys at Wisconsin||
didn't take it very kindly when Russel Wilson transferred in. The addition of a seasoned player at a position of need caused real chemistry issues. /s
The bottom line is, Hoke's O Line recruits have to pick themselves up off the deck and show us what they can do. The entire program is literally on their shoulders, and they have to prove themselves as a unit.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||OK - so we're in the ball park||
I concede that it is probably in our best interest to hold on any Hoke decisions for the next two seasons. This for stability and player maturity reasons.
That said, with OSU and MSU at home in 2015 - we'd better have fully turned the corner ...
Meanwhile - this sucks, painfully ...
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
as we saw with Rodriguez, that gets you through the first six games
|22 weeks 6 days ago||The Adidas contract||
and white jersey woth piping design were all chosen by Carr. RR was blamed for changing everything - but this one was a Carr decision.
|23 weeks 17 hours ago||You forgot Molk||
but yeah ... miss those guys.
|23 weeks 3 days ago||Ahhhhh - got it||
Pollen must be killing my sarcasm sensor today.
|23 weeks 3 days ago||Was their O-Line of drinking age?||
I need to go back and look ...
|23 weeks 3 days ago||As a point of comparison||
at Clemson they are free.
|23 weeks 3 days ago||Me too||
I think this season is the perfect storm of last season blues, and unattractive home slate. Last year they opened up season ticket sales to people not on the PSD waiting list. This means to me they had cleared throught the PSD waiting list last summer.
I am guessing stubhub prices will be well below dynamic pricing base price this year, and they will not sell as many season tickets as they had previously.
Dave Brandon lost in the East - West realignment. Of course it is partially his fault for scheduling App State, but the movement of MSU to away in the same year as ND away and OSU away has strangled the golden goose.
|23 weeks 3 days ago||I am guessing||
there are some planning on buying tickets only to specific games because the slate sucks so badly.
|23 weeks 4 days ago||My view||
is if a non-revenue sport athelete: woman or shit, can get endorsement revenue, etc. as well, more power to them.
That said, the Olympic model does kind of help with the Title IX problem when it comes to paying revenue sport players.
|23 weeks 4 days ago||Would be interesting to know the revenue||
of the minor league teams in comparison. I haven't seen a Durham Bulls vs Tidewater Tides game as a featured broadcast on ABC or ESPN either, much less the playoffs.
|23 weeks 4 days ago||Right||
While I agree having Molk at center with 28 starts at the beginning fo 2011 was a big deal leadership wise, Huyge was a 5th year senior, and Omameh was a RS Junior, and the entire line had significant playing time (Schofield was the only 1st time starter).
Mark Huyge 6-6 302 RS SR Started 17 games, played in 26
|23 weeks 5 days ago||Calm dude||
I feel your pain too. All this suffering has to end sometime. At some point we have paid our penance for our arrogance past ...
|23 weeks 5 days ago||That's a good point||
You can practice a lot of route running and pass defending in voluntary summer 7 on 7s. Spring Game was the last chance for live contact blocking and tackling.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||My understanding||
is Borges is the evil genius who outsmarts himself by creating play complexity that hinders execution - especially with inexperienced players
Nuss is supposed to have a focused set of plays with various options for the QB to choose from. Execution for the linemen is easier as they focus on the execution details of fewer formations. (Bo with a yardstick anyone?) Reliance is on an experienced decisionmaker at QB reading the defense as it lines up against the offensive shifts.
Thus to get to middling offense effectivity our 5th yr QB is the key.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||I seem to recall||
living off campus Junior and Senior year, and spending less on food and housing than the room and board they charged for the dorms. That said I wasn't eating 6000 calories a day - nor mostly lean protein - while training.
I suspect it is a combination of money management issues, and the food bill associated with training nutrition requirements.
Either way, chalk one win up for the athletes.
The other interesting tidbit: I was visting Clemson with my son last week. The athletes' dorms there are apartments. Granted Clemson is in the middle of nowhere - a one street downtown - but I imagine more of their athletes live in campus housing on the all-u-can-eat meal plan then most schools.
Student football tickets were free and every student was guranteed a seat, but you had to sign up for them each week. I am assuming their student section expands and contracts based on opponent quality, projected weather, and exam time week to week.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||^This^||
Makes me smile ... Kovacs is forever a walkon at heart.
Bo must be smiling as well. There is a page or two in Bo's Lasting Lessons on feeding the walk ons at the training table with the rest of the team in spite of the NCAA.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||In 2007 we had a bunch of guys||
who really never played.
My point is, in 2014 we will have guys that have been here for 3 fall camps and have played a whole season. They don't have two NFL tackles to lean on. It's all on them. They went through the fire that was last year, and should have enough to prove that their summer is focused and dedicated.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||We could see a middling year or better||
Player / Year / Fall Camps / Spring Camps / Bowl Pracitices
These guys are the most likely starters. They all had playing time last season. Most will have been through 3 summer conditionings and 3 fall camps under Funk and Hoke. Then there is the average 2 extra bowl practices and the spring practices.
If Chad Lindsay arrives - so much the better.
I don't see youth as an excuse in this mix anymore. Last year, yes. This year, they either become effective linemen (with a few stars) or they are under performing their potential for some reason other than youth.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||It was amazing how close||
we were to losing to Akron and UConn too.
|24 weeks 13 hours ago||Actually, everyone on here should read the CSG report||
Not just the juicy headlines.
It covers the change in the policy from 2009 to 2011 to 2013, and how it went from a Sexual Assault policy to a Sexual Misconduct policy, and the changes made, and the specific input CSG gave on the 2011 policy that was not incorporated into the 2013 policy - including clarification around the definition of consent, the uncertainty regarding due process in sexual misconduct cases, and the uncertainty regarding whether students could retain a lawyer throughout the resolution process. Then they were unable to clarify whether Gibbons was expelled for violation by the old definition of consent in place in 2009 (which did not include specific language about knowing someone was impaired) or the new one.
Of course no where is this mentioned in the M-Live article.
So, based on the police report and at least the current policy, it appears what happened warranted Gibbons' expulsion. However, we have to keep in mind he was not tried with full rights, and convicted in a court of law.
Basically it comes down to the University applied an interpreted guidance from the government established at least two years after the incident. They can process a student out. That student doesn't have the same rights as they do in a court of law. And even if they never are convicted, much less tried in a court of law, the only protection that student gets in exchange is it is not made public why they are no longer enrolled at Michigan (which obviously has not happened in this case).
That is the pre-brief for any pending Section 1 fisking.
|24 weeks 17 hours ago||Don - everything I have read about this case||
says the victim wants the case handled privately.
The third party has essentially made public enough information for the victim to be identified from the information that hasn't been redacted from the police report he posted online, and then there is the ongoing sensationalized reporting (and blog debating) of the case.
I suspect the victim is relieved the case was finally reviewed quitely by the University, while everyone involved would prefer Hoke said nothing to draw attention like he did.
|24 weeks 17 hours ago||Apparently within the State of Michigan||
a "family matter" can only be defined in black and white as a tragedy within the family, and NOT as a significant issue that a family wishes to deal with in private (like say your son being kicked out of school for sexual misconduct).
When Hoke announced that, many suspected what he was referring to. Probably several within the press in the room.
Fact - the initial letter of finding was delivered to Gibbons address the day the team travelled to Iowa. We don't know if Gibbons read it before travelling, or if Hoke knew the finding. We know Gibbons did not play another down for the UofM after that weekend.
|24 weeks 1 day ago||I agree with 2011||
On defense and even offense but it was up and down.
Last year was a grind.
I am looking for OLine growth across this season - that is what I want to see.
And win the games we should handily.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||I agree with your here, even though||
I was pissed off at you for the immediate leap to racism above. (Almost all the people I know who did drugs are white. So my initial read of the comment about youth mis-prioritizing extra cash for recreational drug purchases was in a non-racial context, and I am a white person.)
Anyway, your ranting comment here actually is spot on. You could even expand it to the University in general. The whole place is a giant money grab while selling the sanctimony of bettering the lives of all through education. If Education of the masses was the true goal (versus maximization of capital - as a proxy for profit in the non-profit environment), all this money they are collecting wouldn't go to more non-teaching staff, and more gold plating of facilities, and instead go to more needs and merit based scholarships. (Imagine if people going to college were given reduced tuition for actually being good students? The horror!)
The same is now true in the football and basketball world. It used to be a fair deal. Now, we are faced with the maximization of capital on all sides, and while some of the benefit is transferred to the athlete in the form of better facilities, they are not getting a fair share and are being unfairly restricted in getting it. and are then sent packing with a degree of questionable value and no compensation for health issues stemming from the sport they played after their eligibility (and marketability) has expired.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Especially since the guy||
currently going through rehab and councelling is not black.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Like I said yesterday||
here, go watch the Fab Five 30 for 30, or google Charles Woodson and the alleged 10,000 plus he received from an agent.
I do think the Ed Martin scandal and subsequent probation made Michigan more restrictive about this type of activity. However that happens to cooincide with the beginning of the Buckeye streak, and Tressel locking Ohio up. So it really makes you wonder.
It is obvious to anyone, that the SEC has outbid the B1G and Michigan specifically for big names several times in the recent memory. So it appears the B1G in general is more above board.
That said, the only way to re-level the playing field in the top tier is to provide compensation and olympic model perks to the players (thus reducing the impact of bag money), and actually persecute the below board bag money stuff.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||And you get to code||
which you really love to do, maybe in the public eye at a company you really love to be associated with ...