i mean seriously he was just as good this year
|3 hours 47 min ago||There is a school of thought that says:||
a.) Recruits want a reason to believe they will be developed for the NFL and showcased in a positive way (e.g., there was a long period of time where Michigan was Quarterback U. That meant QBs, and WRs had reason to believe choosing Michigan would increase their chances of getting to the NFL.)
b.) After three seasons of seeming offensive decline, that reason to believe may not so strong right now
c) Al Borges does not do reportedly do much recruiting anyway. However Funk does a lot of it.
So if we are having trouble landing top offensive prospects, then we need to make a change that increases the reason to believe Michigan is one of the top places to develop and be showcased on that side of the ball.
|2 days 20 hours ago||I think your comment is unwarranted.||
The young man committed to Alabama because he could study engineering there and play championship football. Alabama happens to be listed in USNWR as a A+ school for B students.
It's not that Alabama sold him on their engineering program being better than our engineering program: just better than the other degree program Michigan was steering him to. (Personally, I would rather my son study engineering if I were his father.)
The time committed to playing football would make it very hard to compete with other engineering students at Michigan. We'll see if he really majors in engineering, but just maybe Alabama was the better choice for someone who wanted to be competitive in both an engineering degree program and one of the top D1 football programs.
The bigger issue is the competitive disadvantage this puts us at, in the very place we thought we had a competitive advantage. Alabama found a way to work around our "Global Degree" selling point. We lost.
Wish he went Blue, but we cannot fault the guy for making a reasonable choice.
|4 days 7 hours ago||Alan Branch was too||
|5 days 2 hours ago||Yes - our competition in the East||
loses all these key players, while all our 5 star redshirt frosh are back as rs sophomores. OSU and MSU can't possibly have as good a set of backfills as the ones we have for Lewan, Schofield, Gallon, Q, et al. With our latest, greatest youngsters we're going to dominate!
Guys, 2014 is the year! I just know it ..... /S
Maybe a run at the B1G in 2015, but not nationally relevant until at least 2016 in my view.
|5 days 2 hours ago||Damned thos3||
|5 days 5 hours ago||I think we proved OSU||
is overrated and MSU signed the proclamation.
|6 days 21 hours ago||Congrats to my frat big bro||
and his son. Awesome and Go Blue!
|1 week 1 hour ago||Hey fellow Michigan Fans in NC||
Ohio State has us beat 15 to10. Penn State as well. You need to go in and take this survey and set things right!
|1 week 1 day ago||Hmm I like this||
|1 week 1 day ago||Recruiting Threat Scale||
Meyer w/ an NC Game (even a loss) > Dantonio w/ a BTC and Rose Bowl win
Reason: national perception = State got lucky, OSU is back to dominating the B1G and competing for National Championships w/ and SEC coach.
We need State to shut Hyde and Miller down.
Why do I feel so queasy?
|1 week 2 days ago||Why?||
Because it is better to be all emo / glass half empty?
motley, some of us appreciate the laugh!
|1 week 3 days ago||I think publicly apologizing to Wolverines fans||
would stick in his craw enough.
|1 week 3 days ago||Eh - in a thread somewhere Mr. Smith suggested||
that a post football year of additional tuition (to pursue the degree or classes that were too challenging while playing) and health insurance for football related injuries / diasbilities would be what most players would like to see.
I could see that and the stipend as well. I also think the health insurance part should include assistance taking the muscle and weight back off in a healthy way.
On the other hand most of these guys do not go on to the NFL, and their prime opportunity for endorsement income, ect. is while they are playing in college. Much like Olympic atheletes - as long as it is above board and reported - I don't have a problem with them making money on their fame. (This especially over paying Al Borges more than his results are worth, not to mention paying for skywriting and additional "marketing" staff.)
|1 week 3 days ago||If I were his coach||
Hall would be issuing a public appology to the fans he flipped off (funny how he has issued a social media appology to the Buckeye fans), and privately he'd be running steps for a few days.
Otherwise, ain't no big deal really. He had clearly lost his temper ... no one was hurt except maybe the bench and his foot.
I also think both Buckeyes in question should play against Michigan State. This really was a non-event that was handled on scene.
|1 week 3 days ago||Not sure which of the stubborn Borges ones to choose||
but I think:
Al Borges knows his job is on the line, and if the game goes down as expected (3 TD spread), he's gone. Even his boss' boss publicly released a statement calling out Hoke and Mattison (his peer) as staying but did not mention Borges.
So, much like the 2008 Cap One Bowl, Al broke out the play book and got creative to either a) save his job, or b) audition for the next one.
|1 week 3 days ago||Dynamic change:Man did all my Buckeye hatred come flooding back||
after that fight though. I went from "hmm, maybe we can play in this" - to - "Goddamned Buckeyes, let's kick their asses" in about ten seconds. It felt like the game is back, and we on.
|1 week 3 days ago||Hmmm - this is an interesting game within a game though||
another reason to watch the Big Ten Championship Game sponsored by Pepto Bismol.
So you're saying this is the game where MSU's mugging DBs get called left, right and center ....
|1 week 4 days ago||Yeah, they 1 upped us and won||
I would say that 2006 was more epic because of the 1/2 clash of titans nature. That said, the Buckeyes won both, and this year's would have been more epic if we won it.
|1 week 4 days ago||hmmm - Ohio spies||
are present around Schembechler hall. Maybe they are employing drones....
|1 week 4 days ago||Pipkins, Ross, Wilson out||
On of the other LBs playing hurt the last few weeks. JMFR cannot be 100% yet - especially speed-wise. Most of that showed in OSUs run game, and then there was poor Furman back there all by himself.
Wonder if they are having a pass defense catharsis over at 11 warriors.
|1 week 5 days ago||I hate that I can't||
get tickets to go to this game for a reasonable cost - so I hate Duke!
Congratulations to them in football though.
|1 week 5 days ago||wondering if there is some home and away correlation||
on that last chart? Do home games have shorter threads?
|1 week 5 days ago||Your last paragraph||
is totally why I am here.
Bring back the old moderation, and I think we get to a more civil board where this xan be accomplished.
|1 week 5 days ago||OK Francis||
take out the for free part of the comment and re-read it.
|1 week 5 days ago||Man are we missing Mr. Smith||
|1 week 5 days ago||Unless you take the 80000 foot view||
and expect the program to put the right AD, coaches, players, facilities, and other resources in place to beat Ohio and MSU in addition to ND, win Conference Championships, and compete for national ones on a regular basis.
Great companies perform well over time even with top management and key personnel changes. (e.g., the team that beat us yesterday).
|1 week 5 days ago||I'm wondering if he took||
heat for Hand going to Bama and now Peppers saying he's taking other officials in case.
I am guessing this site is an annoyance to the department because they can't control the content. I am also guessing Brians emo posts are being pointed to for keading masses and the fringe over the wall and thus at least fertilizing the Hoke may be fired rumors.
While there may be some truth to the fertilization theory, I don't want a slappy site. I was educated at Michigan and thus enjoy the Brian / Space Coyote debate. If we just had Space Coyote, my own inner debate would not be fed, and down here in NC there are not many others to debate it with.
|1 week 5 days ago||The ponts allow you||
to +1 great debate points and counterpoints and -1 the jerky-flamy types who resort to name calling because they disagree.
|1 week 5 days ago||I said on the live blog||
Why not go for points now AND when we get the first possession after the half?
This was in response to the announcer saying it was OK not to go for it because we get the first possession in the second half.
In the end, even a shot at a field goal would have had game winning implications.
|1 week 5 days ago||Well it was a lot more civil||
On the live blog yesterday. I'm guessing our "fuck" count is down this week, unless our positive "fuck" count is way up (e.g., "fuck yeah!"), because the team that played ND showed up.
However, if you think back to RR years, this board stayed civil because of self moderation. Anonymous people behaved like they were in in a public social situation, and the loud drunk uncles were reminded stearnly to behave and if they didn't were thrown out.
So, this was just a bad year for negging to go by the wayside.
|1 week 5 days ago||I thought the Clark call was BS||
but I am pretty sure OSU didn't score on that drive.
|1 week 5 days ago||Was absolutely the right thing to do||
With Gibby out, our prospects in OT were more iffy.
Agree Gallon and Dileo were too close. Maybe were forced that way by coverage?
Wish it had worked, but our players played a hell of a game just the same. Major props to Hoke for the balls out call, and Devin for another warrior performance.
|1 week 6 days ago||Like a 2008 Wisconsin||
|2 weeks 2 hours ago||Uh - I actually think||
we could surprise in the bowl game. Time will heal Gardner and other ailing players. They will also have time to gel a line, qnd a strategy around our limitations, not to mention further defensive improvements.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||I don't get the love for Morris||
What exaclty has he done that shows he'll be better than Devin Gardner?
Devin Gardner was a 4 star prospect ranked number 1 in his class. He kicked ass at the Nike Elite Eleven, and had a lot of praise from Winfield and the Mannings this past summer.
Shane Morris was a 4 star prospect ranked number 4 in his class. He struggled to get to the Elite Eleven, and did not have the greatest season his senior year. In the games he has played in this year, he has a lower completion percentage than Devin, and YPC is pretty much the same. And then there is game experience (remember Bellomy).
The point is, Shane is a totally unknown entity over Devin Gardner. Can Shane be The Guy, sure ... but right now Devin Gardner is our best chance to win. As far as next year is concerned, they should compete for the starting position (bet Gardner wins it), and we need them both at QB for depth reasons.
That said, in 2007, I thought Ryan Mallet was our better chance to beat Ohio State over an obviously one armed Chad Henne. (My Buckeye friends were worried when Mallet went in, and then couldn't figure out why we went back to an ineffective Henne.)
If Devin is that hurt, then maybe a few series with Morris in the game to see if we can get something rolling is the way to go.
|2 weeks 23 hours ago||Some kind of apocalypse must be going to happen:||
the Detroit Lions are winning big on Thanksgiving Day.
I am confused .... what do I do?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Because of the shit storm surrounding the program||
inflamed by the Freep Stretchgate before his second season even started.
I was trying to remember whether any OL left the program that RR recruited.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||He could have avoided any controversy||
surrounding Rich Rod by not mentioning Lloyd Carr. The fact that he praises Carr's recruiting and says nothing about Rich's when many of the key contributors on this team are Rodriquez recruits lays the base of the blame on Rich Rodriguez's shoes. (Granted, yeah the Oline problems are part on Rodrigeuz recruiting, but also part on The Process ...)
This is a very interesting statement for who is, and who is not mentioned. If I were Al Borges, I would be sweating bullets.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Nice||
And happy Thanksgiving to you.
(Hint - perhaps elaboration on why you say "Fuck Dave Brandon" would add to the value of your comment.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Both Lewan and Gardner||
have backed the offensive staff.
I wonder this too though. Also in the space of offensive skill recruiting.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah - no more||
bend but don't break ... we'll be doing thw breaking!
Offense - with a virtually all RS Sophomore line .... I am not hopeful after 2012 and 13.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||And Molk||
Don't forget the impact of Molk's injury in 2009.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Reasonable opinion||
the grass isn't always greener ...
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Somebody pranked him||
and put Nair on his headset
|2 weeks 2 days ago||And Omameh||
and lets not forget van Bergen, Martin and Kovacs ....
|2 weeks 2 days ago||^This||
Is my opinion as well.
Denard for that matter last year looked better against Bama got beat up and then started regressing to a jumpy squirrel too.
Al ain't the guy to get us back to QB U.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||We never saw the full on deal||
Rodriguez was fired first. Gosh, Ohio State seems to be putting points on the board using a spread.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I actually agree with #2||
Michigan will get better recruits running prostyle. The prostyle I was hoping for though was the Cap One Bowl sort, not the let teams catch you from behind sort.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Is that like being with child?||
Maybe you need to grap the paper and head for the bathroom ...
|2 weeks 2 days ago||if we want a nicer more civil board||
We have got to get moderation back. The old neg bang moderation, not that +1 insightful /-1 trolling abberation too.
Once people feel like there are consequences for what they say, they modify how they say it.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||A happy chump||
sounds like a good place to be!
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You don't say||
We didn't read like seven diaries on the subject over the past few weeks .... ;-) /s
|2 weeks 2 days ago||The ESPN Report referenced||
"Coaches" saying Hoke may be on the block, and we'd make a run at Les Miles. Wonder who these "Coaches" are, and if they've been talking to our recruits. (Casts an eye toward Urban Meyer who has recently offered one of our commits ...)
|2 weeks 2 days ago||OK||
While I agree that calling for the firing of Hoke, before we see if he makes any offensive staff adjustments is premature (just like calling for Rich Rod's head and not allowing him to bring in Casteel), there are people out there who did not feel that Hoke was the right hire to begin with, or perhaps do not now.
So, I think a rational fan could make an argument that we should move on - and still be a real fan.
I agree that the "fans" lobbing hand "fire Hoke" hand grenades, and shouting for Devin Gardner to get pulled - are not acting in the best interest of the fan base right now.
Personally, I wasn't impressed by the Hoke hiring, but it was done (and I was subsequently impressed by the Mattison hiring), so I believe it is in the best interest of the program to keep Brady Hoke until his guys are Juniors and Seniors at this juncture. That said, I believe it is time to seriously question whether we should continue to retain Al Borges, especially at the rate we are paying him.
The question I ask myself is do I believe Al Borges will produce the next Tom Brady, and the next Anthony Carter. Al doesn't recruit, and it seems the biggest names in those two positions are waiting to see and choosing other schools.
I think it is pretty obvious if you take the time to read this blog, that the believe we are young and improving on defense (and are ranked more highly there), and young in places but a predictable tire fire on offense (ranked at the bottom of BCS schools). Thus masses are upset with the offense - in spite of the youth - and that is where change for the better needs to happen. There is a fringe calling for Hoke, and saying Mattison and the defense sucks too.
You know - ESPN and other MSM are rumbling about Hoke's hot seat for the hype at this point. Then there is Chat sports ....
UNDERLYING MESSAGE FOR JABRILL PEPPERS: the internet is an interesting place. There are a lot of emo yahoos posting irrational opinions. It's OK and wise to consider fall back options if there is a change. I would bet that Hoke and the defensive coaching staff are a lock to stay for a while. There isn't any indication that the offensive staff will change. If they do, it will be a move for the positive. Stay the course and Go Blue young man!
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Just didn't execute||
which implies the play calling was fine even if we were running into a stacked box, or telegraphing play action pass - please blitz Devin
and, the staff taught them everything they need to know
so, the players are just not executing.
Don't even get me started on Borges' statement ...
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Because ...||
Woody said so.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Because ...||
Woody said so.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||And because they win||
and are nationally relevant on a consistant basis.
Meanwhile, we have ceased to hold up our end of the bargain since the 100th game.
So I hate them for still being good at football.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||So, for anyone wanting to check:||
2013 YTD Stats: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/112313aab.html
Year one of Rich Rod was worse than this year offensively by almost every measure but individual rushing yards per carry. (Bonus: Zolton, the Space Emporer of Space, was the yards per carry rushing leader ...)
Here was our line (left to right) in 2008:
Ortmann, RS Jr
As I recall they had like 0 starting experience and averaged 290lbs (all were under 300). Threet, Sheridan, and many others on offense had no game experience either.
It is safe to say we have seen worse in the near past, and it was 2008. It was just year one with a new coaching staff after a mass exodus, not year three ...
|2 weeks 3 days ago||And he was||
a Lloyd Carr recruit not a Rich Rod recruit.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||We can't bring in toilet paper now||
and they don't sell streamers. Also can't bring in a thermos with hot chocolate and peppermint schnaps. The whole ambiance is ruined!
(I did find a few mini-airline bottles rolling down under my seat last time, so I suppose there is that option.)
Seriously - there is a long gap between 1987 and last year, an other than a now broken horizon: the bathroom lines are still long, the food is still expensive, people still boo when the coaches call for a run up the middle for no gain on first down, but being inside that bowl is still 100% awesome.
I don't mind the piped music that much, and the students singing "you suck" to Temptation is really kind of funny - they seem to be having a good time with it.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||What are we s'posed to do you moron?|
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Who cares?||
I have to write another one of those we're going to lose but maybe we'll play close for like 10 minutes notes to my Ohio freinds I used to regularly take bottles of bourbon off of annually.
Damn, I am tired of this and I hate it ...
|2 weeks 5 days ago||We don't, which is exaclty the concern||
many people on here have about Brady Hoke. He's not a proven championship caliber winner at this level.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Gardner's problems||
could be the QB coach too eh ...
|3 weeks 1 hour ago||Stay thirsty for that Kool-Aid my freind!||
I would bet that Urban Meyer will never forget the Cap One Bowl. So we'll have to Beat Ohio straight up, not by surprise.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Because Desmond, Wojo, and even Angelique||
forced his hand. Otherwise he would have continued to "grind" because there was nothing he could do ...
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Why does this read like||
we'll be playing against Hoke's offensive vision of who we should be when we're all growed (sic) up, except for the hurry up?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Dammit||
no UFR during the workday!
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Cap One Bowl||
But I don't recall any others off hand.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||OK - so their young and inexperienced||
and not as strong, and this causes them to either be confused and miss assignments, or flat out get beaten.
Who's job is it to take this fact into account, and set offensive strategy and game planing in place to win games in spite of these weaknesses?
The loss to Michigan State: still sticks in my craw, but I sort of can understand. (I still think we were outcoached.) I'll even cut Borges some "experimentation / training day" slack for Akron and UConn. The losses to Penn State (especially the OT part) and Nebraska: no. We played to our weaknesses instead of around them.
As the OP suggests: Funk may be a good coach. Everything I read about him up until this season points to him being a respected teaching coach. Maybe we give him another season to see if this youth develops.
The smug guy up in the booth - I'm more sure needs to go - or he at least needs a massive pay cut based on our offense being 40th in points for, 52nd in passing yards, and 95th in rushing yards. Just "grinding" is not getting us our moneys worth.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||OK||
So maybe Lloyd says we need 35 points of offensive production.
Guh - they'll all be buying commemorative beat down uniformz jerseys in Ohio again ...
|3 weeks 3 days ago||As Lloyd Carr would say||
26/12*4*7= 60 pts. We need to produce 61 points of offense to win this game.
OSU's defense ain't Indiana's ...
|3 weeks 4 days ago||So can I multiply odds of successful play times odds of win?||
FG: 94% x 46% = 43%
1st Down: 70% x 57% = 40%
Failed conversion = 34%
Failed FG = 23%
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Star rankings||
I have forgotten with so many of these. Has anyone combined star rankings and experience and starting experience on this.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||^^ Right||
I was going to say: Al: "the 4th and 2 play where Northwestern showed 9 in the box, and Gardner checked to a run. Why did he not check to a pass, is there not a pass counter option to check to for such a situation?"
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I to watched it on DVR||
Though I did not know the outcome. Also, no lucky shirt or coffee mug: have totally given up. I watched MSU-Nebraska instead: rooting for Nebraska since their fans are nice people (not drunken, sofa burning, car painting asshats).
Somehow watching the game non-realtime with no liveblog or game thread made my experience less stressful ... I only cursed like three times and it was on missed calls by the refs.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||They're getting guys||
experience for next year? Or now we're throwing shit at the wall at rb to see what sticks?
|3 weeks 5 days ago||30 years||
and doing the same. What's worse - it was my son's idea.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Did you guys see the||
commercial about college fandome and showing and uncle who invented the wave at Alabama?!?!?
|4 weeks 50 min ago||No, we haven't noticed ...||
That would be like watching your dysfucntional ex-girlfriend have sex with a hobo.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||Since the press||
is running with this fans booing the players and harassing them over social media thing, someone (mgoblog, aa.com, detnews) needs to run a survey that asks:
I'll bet 90% of the responses say booing at coaching.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||Brady Hoke was the candidate list||
the rest was all window dressing.
I hope all the "not a Michigan Man" crowd are stoutly backing up Hoke and Borges because this is what they wanted.
As for Rodriguez - he had his own cloistered within the family / my way or the highway problem that ultimately got him shot.
|4 weeks 7 hours ago||Here's my thing on this||
This is the exact reason I am upset with this season and concerned this isn't the coaching staff (at least in entirety) to get us over the hump and it has gone on far too long.
|4 weeks 21 hours ago||Or - he just chose a place where he can do both||
Honestly, I have known athletes who want to study something real and didn't because it was too hard to do that and be an athlete.
That said, as a parent with two high schoolers looking at colleges, there is something to be said for balancing the desire to be challenged by the best school, and the practicality of getting into a program where your child will be able to compete with the other students in the program.
I think if Da'Shawn decided he really wanted to do engineering - then going to 'Bama may actually be the better choice from an ability to keep up and compete academically while also playing football at the major D1 level.
Either way, he seems like a great kid, and I hope he gets that degree.
|4 weeks 22 hours ago||It's OK man||
we should have figured it out when Da'Shawn mentioned his interest in Engineering as a major.
I really hope Da'Shawn does pursue that engineering degree. The kid seems like a great down to earth guy with dreams both on and off the field.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Maybe he really wants||
to study engineering and thinks he can do that and football at Bama but not at Michigan.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||damn||
well good luck to him
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Must get chillow!||
|4 weeks 1 day ago||We have an earthhquake||
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Oh - here we go||
My son has played since second grade. In that time I have seen 1 concussion in youth football and one knee injury. (Meanwhile I met a kid who had two concussions from youth baseball in one season, and was not allowed to play.) They just don't hit that hard.
Middle school is a step up: my son tore his ACL in practice and there were a few broken bones. (FWIW when he went through rehab, there was a girl who had torn her ACL playing soccer.)
High school seems to be where the injuries really kick in. Still - saw two concussions in one season (one was a textbook heads up tackle where the tacklers helmet - who was broken down - came up under the chin of the running back - who was running upright).
That said and as I said above: if you have a bigger kid who is gawky because their frame has out grown their fine muscular control, then football is the only sport I have seen where they are a valued part of the team. Every other sport prizes fine motor skills between eye and hand or foot. My son would not think of himself as an athlete if not for football.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||And all the bigger||
kids with no hand or feet skills in this world will have no sport where they are valued anymore. Realistically though, even if Pop Warner goes away, there is only one big team high school sport.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||They do run by weight limits||
Kids that are over can play up. At a certain age, kids that are older/lighter can play down.
What this does though is discourage the younger bigger kids from playing, so they get to middle school ball without much in the way of pad level and blocking skills.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||The Wolves||
would not fair well in Arizona and much prefer a northern climate.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Somehow, I really remember this||
especially how I felt about our propects in Columbus. Those feelings of being totally fucked are front and center. (And that year, except for the 3-3-5 Purdue experience, we actually had a defense.)
Now, can anybody explain how we have way more talent now, and seem equally as fucked?
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Al kind of sounds like||
Space Coyote ...
|4 weeks 2 days ago||OMG, Space Coyote is Al Borges!||
And he just threw Daryl Funk under the bus!!! /s
But seriously, I really appreciate what Space Coyote has done here.
Also, Borges seems like the kind of guy who would come on here and attempt to eductate us unwashed masses - and troll us on occasion.
So that would mean Space Coyote cannot be Al Borges since he joined before the Freep launched the Stretchgate assault in 2009. Unless: ZOMG AL BORGES KNEW BRADY HOKE WAS COMING TO MICHIGAN BEFORE STRETCHGATE: total conspiracy -- calling Section 1!
|4 weeks 2 days ago||They should have squeezed two such blocks||
over each M.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Agreed||
Thia would better if it incorporated a success metric (I.e., went for 4+ yards on 1st down, drive ended in a 1st down for 2nd - 4th down.
Would bet our 1st and 10 runs and our 2nd and 3rd and long plays are not successful.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Mattison took||
responsibilty for the 4th and 2 fiasco.
Borges was all: we're doing it our way, even if the counters don't work, and this is the growing pain we have to go through. It's like Rich Rod in reverse (don't care that we've only won three games, we have to transition. / don't care that we have an all freshman defensive backfield, we're running the 3-3-5.)
Predict we'll spr3ad a little more this week because our opponent plays that way, and then stick our head in the sand for Manball versus Iowa. Doesn't matter for OSU ...
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Oh, and||
the driver was also still upset about being maced and detained by campus police at the Penn State game three weeks earlier.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||or even saying: "in hind sight,||
we probably should have called some of the plays differently, and we are evaluating what will work better including effective counters moving forward" would go a long way - instead of:
My issue with Hoke-speak is by 100% supporting Borges and saying we just didn't execute / are too young, the blame is being passed from a high (over) paid coordinator who should be designing plays with counters that fit the capabilities of the young personnel they have to those young personnel (who for better or worse are who they are).
I support the players. Much like GERG and Gibson failed the 2010 team, I think this offensive coaching staff is failing the 2013 team.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Agree ... and if he sees no issue||
Then we have a much bigger problem.
This is not 1969, where if you just whack them with yardsticks enough the 100+ scholarship players will become a force able to impose their will within the big two and little eight. And lets face it, even that didn't work in the Rose Bowl.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah - I was thinking about this||
driving home Sunday: what game is worth coming up for next year? Penn State?
|4 weeks 4 days ago||OK, I was at the game||
And many many people were saying Borges needs to be fired on the way out. The majority.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Are you surprised||
|4 weeks 5 days ago||oh I think||
people had softened on Borges, but today's playcalling was dumb.
Brians preview basically said we will not be able to run up the middle our weakness against their strength and we will not have a lot of time to pass because they blitz.
And Borges played right to Nebraska's strengths.
Borges gets no more chances from me. He needs to go.
|5 weeks 22 hours ago||Maybe I just need to DVR the OSU Game||
or watch it someplace where I do not have internet connection and do have lots of beer. (Hmmm, a bar with no wifi ...)
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I am telling you Shoe||
there is just enough room on that flight deck to lay down field turf and host Michigan vs Navy. Of course the FOD walkdown afterward would be a royal pain. Also, not sure where the fans would sit ... barges with scaffolding and bleachers on either side I guess.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||At this point in the season||
The answer appears to be not much until next year.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||We just don't know||
When Mizzou and A&M went to the SEC everyone thought they would be bottom feeders. MD and Rutgers could rise to the occasion. Especially in today's Big Tehhhnnnn!
|5 weeks 1 day ago||^^^^ F'ing Awesomely||
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Oh, I absolutley think that happened here||
When Hoke was hired. Brian was all guh it's Hoke. New posters showed up here professing how dreamy Hoke is and how awesone this will be for Michigan.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||My son was in the linebacker group||
at the HS technique school this summer. For coverage skills, they taught the linebackers go after the receiver facing the receiver, not the QB when in coverage. The idea was to focus on staying with the receiver and read his face for when the ball was coming, then break the pass up.
The we got back home and the HS coaches had the LBs dropping back and breaking like DBs.
So I think Bolden is following the technique Michigan was teaching at the technique school.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Wait a minute||
Look at Auburn 2012.
They put up 108 yards running but were shutout against Bama. They went 3-9.
Well sure SEC schedule vs Big Tehhhnnn!
Maybe, I just need to get to: It is what it is. We'll probably win a few more games - maybe 8-4 or 9-3 - and that is quite an accomplishment given what the coaches have to work with. Next year will be a trial of patience as well (we'll look a lot like Auburn above). 2015 improves but Shane's 1st year starting. And hey, there is always the stacked 2016 team!
Breathe in, breathe out .... relax ...
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah - Devin looked beat up after the ND Game too||
and I was wondering in the following weeks if he was hurt, or if the one endzone guffaw in the ND game had gotten into his head.
He seemed to have purged whatever demons after the first bye week as you said - hopefully last weekend won't be a setback.
Man what a heroic effort in both ND and the MSU game.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Pick your poison||
I think the point here is other teams in the top 25 have the same youth with the same lack of "watching tape", and appear to be having more success.
So my question to you is: since age and experience are not the only factor, what are the other variables that are causing us more pain? Conditioning, coaching, scheme, highly touted recruits being busts, what?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Yes, but the appologist refrain||
has been, prove it. Show me the data where a top team has an offensive line as young and inexperienced as our and is more sucessful against real competition.
And now they parse and obfuscate ...
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Agreed||
And what this tells me is next year there are no excuses because, other than UCLA, many of these teams have lines comprised of all 1.5s - 2.5s and they are competing in the SEC, etc. It would be interesting to throw in yards per carry, tfls and sacks allowed against each teams toughest defensive competition. Also, there are several non-redshirts in the mix, implying freshman playing time...
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Thanks for posting||
I think the biggest problem is it just sucks to be perpertually two years out and then we'll be for REALZ. I think this is our reality: this year we'll struggle, next year we'll struggle, but a little less (maybe more like last year / if we struggle a lot, then it is time to really question Borges' game strategy vs talent), 2014 the line will emerge, 2015 - no excuses.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||The second question is the one to ask||
The first we all know, and is moot, but might be a useful primer for the casual fan.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||That was a Midwestern||
nice guy bus throwing under (versus Vonce Lombardi couldn't ...) It starts by not naming anyone specific, and ends by standing behind named guys for the future (thus propping them up). If he was Southern, a gentle bless their hearts would have been thrown in.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I don't fault them on either decision||
Hind sight and all. At the time it made sense to redshirt Kalis. And we really don't know how the condition is impacting the equation versus youth. They appeared to have solid gains though, but maybe the body fat percentages Lewan was talking about was too low, and they didn't have enough in reserve coming into the season. (Nix and Shembo being the counter examples).
Either way we seem to have hit on an ineffective mix that cannot be fixed in season. Theoretically the line and Senior Shane and Green 4 years from now should be a fearsome thing.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I think he did a great job||
of laying out the oline problem without throwing anyone specific under the bus, and then supporting his guys as the guys once they get the experience.
Unfortunately that means we have to put the torches and pitchforks down and try to be patient, likely the rest of this season and at least part of next.
As for the S&C question above - maybe they were a little to lean on the pizza to chicken and salmon mix over the summer. I think another question is: should we have burned a redshirt or two last year so we had more experience this year?
I would really like this program to turn a corner and not have its ass handed to it once or twice a year any more.
So - this settled me a bit.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Thank you for||
putting this together. Although it is tea leaves, it is also information.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Quibble much||
Alabama was definitely a red letter game.
We'll see on the other part after the season is over. If Lewan doesn't manage to get suspended, they may be able to pull out 3 more wins.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||So we have two Dline coaches and two Oline coaches||
(Funk and the TE coach), and our guys are doing basic high school drills. (Albeit, maybe because they are so young and need to focus on basics?) And the State players looked bigger and more fit than ours. (Possibly because our guys are so young?)
The recruits were told State develops their players, and what they saw played right into that hand.
How do we get out of this box by next season?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Reminds me of our favorite Penn State pic||
of the Branch - Morelli hit - except our guy was on the receiving end this time.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Eh - I have to say here||
that for all the "Make it OT", "you misspelled looser [sic] or your grammar is incorrect", "this was already posted, or shouldn't be" crap we complain about now, it was far worse before. This is why I post a new topic on the board, and have considered and even drafted diaries and decided not to post them.
So there was some snarky shit before - just in a different nature.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Agreed - the Blog jumped the shark for me||
when RR was fired, and we had a sudden invasion of "Hoke is so dreamy / Dick Rod only brought in shrimpy dreadlocked low discipline / academic recruits" types (which I swear was lead by the AD), then Brian went emo, the maleware board crashes removed the old positive and negative moderation system, for the confusing positives count only moderation system, and the board decended into full out sniping warfare. (A veiled, infighting sort of M-Live.)
I am sure Brian gets more clicks and comments now, but the content seems on balance, much less infromative, and man this place has been wearing on my soul (and others too, to the point that we need multiple drinking and snowflake threads).
|5 weeks 4 days ago||MSU has improved their execution across the season||
To me the key point is: while MSU has improved their execution across the season with the players they were struggling with earlier in the season, Michigan has not.
Question: is that an indictment of our players, or our coaching?
Someone mentioned six sigma and why, why, why above. That is the question Hoke, Borges and Mattison should each be asked: Why have Michigan State, Ohio State, Minnesota and others been able to improve their execution across this season, while Michigan continues to struggle?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||You were juked||
DB hired a coach with a fair to middling record at MAC and Mountain West schools, who apparently is a great guy to work for, not a major D1 go getter. The Harbaugh and Miles feints were window dressing.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Um, I expected them||
to soundly control the UConn and Akron games, such that our backups and maybe even out practice squads were getting some playing time at least in the 4th quarter. I expected to beat a down Penn State, maybe not as handily as OSU, but better than Indiana. And I expected us at least have a fighting chance at MSU, and maybe have it go more like the ND game with a lower score: they de-pantsed us with ease.
I expected improvement over last year. This ain't it. All I see from here on out is excuses for the appologists too: 2014 well Lewan, Schofield, Dileo and Gallon left and we're young, 2015 well Gardner, Countess, and Ryan left and we're young, etc.
Guess what, other teams have key players that graduate too ...
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Looked like Lloyd Carr after the 2007 Rose Bowl||
like wha' happened???? Except Lloyd lost to USC in the Rose Bowl, and Brady lost to MSU in East Lansing...
He probably couldn't answer the MGoQuestion because he doesn't seem to know what the Offensive game plan is in any given week anyway.
Agree totally - he should be really pissed and embarassed. No fire or passion like Wendy5K said. This is simultaneously why Harbaugh is a liability and an asset to the teams he coaches. His "deal" is he wants to win.
TV coverage has made it hard to tell - do either Hoke or Funk or Lewan for that matter get antic with the olineman during the game? I would not want to be our olinemen if Bo were around. Makes you shudder just thinking about it.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||But, but||
people left and they're all young ....
|5 weeks 4 days ago||State seems to be able||
to coach young people up so they improve over the season as well.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Had a Captain like that||
in the Navy. 100% on training visits was so important, there was exactly one expert for every position on the ship. No one crosstrained or learned anything new because they preferred not to get chewed out. A lot of people got out because of him - particularly CPOs and JOs.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Because we dont have a||
QB coach. We have a TE coach instead and that is working out so well...
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Eh - when did Molk, and Lewan first start?||
Redshirt freshman years. Schofield - first playing time in his redshirt freshman year.
Who recruited the current set of redshirt freshmen?
How did we do against State the last time we played with a young inexperienced offense: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2008-2009/102508.html
Brandon Minor and Steve Threet managed to put up 21 points on State, and 84 yards rushing. (They put 202 yards on the ground against Penn State as well.)
No - the issue is player development - and that falls on either the S&C staff or the offensive coaching.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Like this wasn't obvious||
in 2010, 2011, 2012, or two weeks ago?
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I watched 2008,||
when I knew we were dead men walking. 2009 and 10 were death marches as well. I am not sure if I can bear to watch this year. It kind of sucks to have your Thanksgiving weekend ruined.
I am guessing - if Gardner, Gallon and Funchess make it that far alive, we can be marginally more effective on offense than we were today. Our defense is going to suffer heavily.
I don't know what the lean conditioning program was they put both lines on in the off season, but it sure doesn't look to have worked.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I really miss Molk, van Bergen and Martin.||
Those guys were leaders.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Oh I'd say||
somewhere between Penn State and Akron/UConn.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I think it is time for someone||
to ask Brandon if he'll be doing one of those post season reviews he did with Rich Rod in 2010.
I can see allowing Home to carry his staff into 2014, but even with Lewan and Schofield gone, if we haven't seen a significant improvement by this time next year, I think a mid season firing is in order.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Here's your snowflake||
we will only get bent over by Ohio State once.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||we don't have one||
finger guns Smith is gone
|5 weeks 5 days ago||OK - a post of reason||
I agree this loss is totally on the oline and maybe Fitz's blocking.
I don't see how this gets better next year. Worse how do we recruit a 2015 QB or WR witb this tire fire oline.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||My read of the||
post suggests we had one less star per 4 players (which probably hasn't been much different in a long while) and more experience.
Yet we're perfomming lower.
|6 weeks 3 hours ago||Ahhh||
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Brian does post emotionally||
often enough, but his posts usually contain the defined reason for the emotions - or one shows up later.
This is why Brian should not be the captain of a ship or pilot of an airplane. (e.g., Capitan of the Concordia)
|6 weeks 2 days ago||your talking about||
the guy who created this great forum that you merely comment on. I rarely completely agree with Brian and I think some of his views are sometimes caveling, and at times extreme. So I take Brian's and others' views and form my own opinion. If you so completely dislike Brian's point of view - then perhaps it is time to find another blog.
Frankly, I appreciated Space Coyote injecting a knowledgeable counter point into the panicked herd, but this is the internet ... you can't let it get to you ... Space Coyote has gone all Kevin Bacon with the predictable trampled result. ("All is well. Remain calm.")
The truth is in the middle, and probably something we'll never know because it had to do with strategy, and tactics based on personnel, injuries, mental state, etc.
There are things I disagreed with during the game (runs into futilely stacked boxes, and the punt rather than a Wile long FG attempt), but I also thought that Gibby would save us. It just wasn't his day.
I think Space Coyote should consider a breather, and then I hope for a return. AND the sooner we get up and down voting back, the better.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Doesn't only having 10||
on the field make it dumbest to the infinitiest or something?
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Apparently||
you don't know anything, or know less than Al Borges has forgotten, and would shit your pants if you actually had to call a game yourself. So maybe you shouldn't express your opinion on the internet ...
|6 weeks 2 days ago||OK - and our line is young||
so why wouldn't we pass to take pressure off them and then run: like we did in the Indiana game and the Central game?
|6 weeks 2 days ago||So I guess I am a traitor||
but I like Ohio State's strategy better: pass to open up the run, get them spread out, then run right up the open middle.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Yep||
Get ready for the Penn State game plan redux ...
|6 weeks 3 days ago||On the cut the cable story||
Counterpoint: if I could just pay $5 for ESPN, $5 for BTN, $1 each for Discovery, HGTV, Nick and Cartoon Network, and pull down OTA broadcast on HDTV I would save a boatload on my cable bill each month.
My cable bill is 6x expensive because to the 100's of other crappy channels I don't watch and have to pay for because I want to watch sports real time.
The sooner they bust the bundle and we can all buy ala cart the better.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||The funny thing is the unnecessary roughness statement||
is a Narduzzi quote.
Well, the comforting thing I saw last week, when the unnecessary roughness was called in the end zone for the hit on Gardner - half the o-line was in the face of the guy who hit Gardner. Gallon pulled them off, but that guy was informed he went too far and there would be no more of it.
It's going to be rough going at Staae this weekend, but I think Lewan and Schofield will have the o-line ready to set the "Tom"-foolery straight.
I also think our defense is constructed for State and Wisconsin - not Indiana - so they will have a better game.
Now, if Devin can just be ND Devin ...
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Apparently||
we aren't there yet. We need to wait and let the youngsters get older and add muscle. So we cannot expect this even if our coaching staff sets expectations and game plans as if they do.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||you mean||
have an extra heavy behind and between the center and each guard protecting the A gaps?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Yes - I for one would be less torch and pitchfork-y||
if we had beaten Akron and UConn handily and then lost to PSU they way we did. I would have chalked it up to another one of those Borges away game playing calling learning opportunities that hopefully got his head on straight for the remainder of the slate.
As a leader, I think there is no problem with Hoke publicly saying: "Our line is not where we need them to be, and they have to step it up", or "Clearly we made some coaching mistakes at the end of the Penn State game, and we need to fix those". That's not bus throwing under, that is acknowledgment. (Both of those I think he kinda did, but not as fully as the torch and pitchfork crowd would like.)
|6 weeks 5 days ago||OK - I'm not calling for heads yet||
but we almost lost to two of the worst teams in FBS - like down to the last play almost lost - and we lost to Penn State who OSU with a "questionable" defense is beating 42-7 two minutes into the second half. So yes there is a reason to question what is going on. Also, for the wait to 2015ers, that will be Shane's 1st year starting, so I guess 2016 is really the first true measure?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||So we should just accept||
9-3 in perpetuity?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Um, there also was damned near||
losing to Akron and UConn too, who both have been nothing but suck otherwise. And oh, are you watching the OSU/PSU game?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||But this is||
so agitating to watch!
Biting tongue ....
|6 weeks 6 days ago||They don't think so||
I have two teens with driver's permits. When they are driving with me I am constantly asking them "do you know where you are and how to get home?" They could be half a mile from home and have no idea. Same thing happens on the boat out on the lake.
The only reason I can figure is they have never looked out the window at the real world and imprinted that map and sense of location and direction in their heads because they have always been connected or entertained.
A lot of good food included in the meal plan, student involvment (like voting) in the next seating policy (which has to include flexibilty to sit with friends who arrive at different times), and real connectivity in the stadium are probably starters.
Bottom line though, many in this "connected and entertained" generation completely disagree with your statement whether they philosophically admit it or not.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Oh, I think they (Hoke and Borges) are intentionally doing this||
against teams they think they can get away with it for developmental purposes. Think about it, if you want to slow down Ohio and Nebraska and Northwestern, you have to establish a run game earlier in the season. For that matter if State is an interception threat you need some run game there. You can't just run Gardner - we saw that last year. So Central was a tune up for ND. Akron, UConn, Minny and Penn State were we'll give up a cushion to see if we can blood in our o-line for later in the season.
Hopefully, they know now they are not a young Wisconsin, and they have to leave the pass button turned on, even on 1st down.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Eh - it is a reasonable concern||
if only because Hoke was relatively unproven compared to Harbaugh, or Miles or even Rodriguez - or outside of our own search Meyer and Saban. The hiring of Greg Mattison significantly improved the picture in most people's minds. However, we really have to wait and see if we have the "nice guy" head coach who can bring an Alabama or Stanford caliber team. The other guys seem all to be of the type A egotistical prototype.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Yes - too funny||
"Take that IU .... care to get up? want some more of this? Oh, shit, back to work!"
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Someone should have asked about all||
the missed tackles. It was like death by a thousand cuts.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I also think this is a natural||
counter to the emphasis on reducing concussions. If you are not aiming high for fear of ejection, then you are aiming low, and an increase in Lewan a-hem hip injuries, knee injuries, etc. are the result.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Unbalanced play calling||
that isn't working called over and over with no effective in game adjustment is the specific trend and issue leveled against Borges.
I think Funk gets one more year to get his recruits up to speed really.
Keep in mind the difference for an occasional bad game for Borges and one for Mattison is Mattison is a key recruiter and the defensive staff has a much better history of successful in game adjustments.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Agreed - this is what I have learned since 2007||
the only real way to be sure you beat a no huddle spread, is to socre as many points as you can, and hope you get a few stops (or at least one more than they did) along the way.
Slowing the game down on offense is nice and should be attempted, but it cannot be at the expense of moving the chains and scoring. There is no such thing as a game of field position and punt in this scenario.
In the end, this is why we succeeded in the Cap One Bowl, and yesterday. If we had just made more tackles on first contact and Fitz managed to collect that pitch, so much the better ...
|7 weeks 5 days ago||And OSU last year||
And Michigan State, Iowa, 3/4s of UTL I, and most of the Sugar Bowl ....
Oossibly throw in ND land Nebraska last year and QBs regressing.
There is a track of evidence at away games. This is driving the open questioning.
I am not necessarily calling for Borges' head on a pitchfork in the Blockham's back yard, but clearly Borges and Funk need to be put on a "performance plan" until these things stop happening and we see clear consistent improvement or they are asked to move on.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Defense section||
Is there a way for quantfying missed tackles? But for one turnover and like a gazillion missed tackles, this game was totally closer than it should have been.
Then there is this problem of piling on a gang tackle in the direction of the first down marker as well ...
|7 weeks 5 days ago||They are already||
preparing for Michigan ...
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I'll give Al credit||
he adjusted well after last week, calling a variety of plays so we rarely faced a stacked box. The problem is, we would still be undefeated and a few people's draft stocks wouldn't have suffered if he had just done this at the close of the game and in OT last week.
Everyone of these lizard brain playcalling disasters have happened on the road. Maybe Al doesn't sleep well away from home, because Evil Genius Al goes into a shell or something, and the Debordian comatose play calling alter ego takes over for key stretches in the game.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||You need to establish the precident right now||
Michigan football is a priority in your life, and she is going to lose you every Saturday we are playing for here on out. If you give in to a wedding shower, which guys are better off not being at anyway, then you are giving the future away as well.
(While your at it, try to establish precede ts like golf every week - even on your honeymoon - and sex every day. Very few guys get the latter, but hey you need some bargaining chips and you you m8ght just get lucky
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Because if he called||
plays other than runs out of the I last week, Penn State couldn't have stacked the box. Then our run game would have been balanced.
Al passed to open the run game up tonight and guess what: we had a balanced offense.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Or at least predictable call run plays||
every time you get in the same formation. You know, mix it up and throw a quick out now and then to keep them on their toes.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Jesus - it is a Rodriguez style||
see what sticks amongst the young'uns tire fire, except on offensive line rather than defensive backfield ....
|8 weeks 5 hours ago||Yeah - given it IS October||
And the last panel did show Al's head alive and still stubborn (i.e., very much alive and still opposed to bubble screens). I found this to be a great bust on ourselves.
Clearly somepeople have missed the vampire and zombie obsessed culture our kids have become anyway here. What could be more family oriented than some Octobet gouhl?
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Wait: instead we have a Tight Ends coach||
how's that working out for us?
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||hah - somehow you selectively||
forgot the 1st 3 quarters of UTL I, the MSU game, the Iowa game and most of the Sugar Bowl from the 2011 season.
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Hmmm||
maybe he needs better qb coaching. Rumor has it the QBs regress under the current staff
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||I haven't read Borges||
is fat so far in the comments. One he is either stubborn or stupid: a comment that would be better argued with just the stubborn part.
I don't know guys. either Gardner is so injured he just can't execute the throws, the staff is imposing the best of all possible worlds on lesser opponents as an instructional mechanism, or they suck at play calling and qb and line coaching.
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||trying to remember 2008||
it had to be worse in 2008 right?
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||My point is||
look at the pictures - it is 7 on 9 and we're getting nowhere in the last 20 plays. Ok - our interior guys are young. They can't handle 8 or 9 in the box. Maybe it is time to try something different because this ain't workin'
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||Oh, I don't know, just like the OSU game last year||
after your opponent RPS's you say 15 or 20 times, you might want to come up with an alternate plan what to do the next time ...
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I am sorry but||
there are many plays in the 27 that are clearly not gonna work: http://mgoblog.com/content/27-27-document
One quick look at the defense loaded up in 1, 8, 19, 22, you name it and we all knew what the outcome was going to be. So maybe it was RPS and the real issue is we didn't leave enough time to check into something that would work. Who's fault is that?
While we're at it - http://fergodsakes.blogspot.com/2013/10/man-sports.html :
Who recruited the young interior OL? Apparently other teams have effective O-lines as young as ours. Or maybe they design the plays to take the pressure off these young O-lines. Either way the current coaching staff needs to coach them up, and make adjustments to game plane so they don't have to clear out 8 or 9 in the box ...
I will allow them the beginning of the game, test the new line out, see if we can impose our will, and settle Gardner, but the last two minutes and playing for the chance of a field goal in the overtimes. No.
Remember beating Illinois in 3OT. We scored 3 touchdowns and a two point conversion and we won ... that last part on Saturday was conservatively coached manball at its worst.
Let sleeping dogs lie Space Coyote: it was a stinker, and we all know it.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I was settled down and then I read this.||
All that has to be said:
We so deserved to loose that game.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Space Coyote, I hope your Burrito is enjoyable||
I agree with you. To mix metaphors: the mob headed over the cliff and is rolling the ship too far to one side when we are better off manuevering on an even keel. Now we need to find a way to get back on the wagon after a week long bender.
I agree calling names is not a constructive way to criticize the coaching staff, nor apparently is calling bubble screens.
I think we as fans need to move on from, and see where we get. Nothing else we can do really. And to continue 200 line threads of Fire Borges isn't doing anything productive at this point.
So ..... it's all been said, over and over, be nice, and cheer for the success of the players.
PS Reading the DetNews John Wangler chat may help people feel a little better too:
|8 weeks 1 day ago||That "Rich Rodriguez" chant was||
in defiance to the Freep story released days earlier. This board was so pissed at the Freep and solidly behind the team and the coaching staff for that game.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Eh - I just keep looking at the pictures||
with way more Penn State players in the box, than Michigan ones, and thinking unless there was a check option for Gardner to use, this play was doomed to fail. This is as bad as Ohio State last year when "if Denard is QB, then Denard is going to run it".
Until our line is like Alabama's or even Wisconsin's, we cannot succeed in this scenario unless there is a viable pass threat to keep our opponents from stacking the box. Clearly we don't yet have a line like this because not just Penn State: Akron and UConn could defend this.
Question: how did those other teams that handily defeated UConn, Akron and Penn State put up more than 1 yard per play on the ground?
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Like Ohio State last year||
Iowa and MSU the year before ...
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Um, Indiana beat Penn State by 20||
and only allowed 24 points. We lost and allowed 43 points.
Iowa looks more beatable. I think this is the one win for almost sure remaining, but that is a road game.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Well the Big Ten isn't going to stop sucking||
until we stop sucking, and given our wins over Akron and UConn, and our loss to Penn State, we still suck.
Our last Big Ten title was 2004. Nine years ago. Other than 2006, there was a whole lot of suck in between. Don't see us winning it this year, and I'd really like to see Michigan in Pasadena on New Year's Day.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Yes, that game was it||
I have said many times, "where the hell was that when we needed it against OSU and USC in 2006/7".
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Devin is a RS Junior||
who has already graduated. I am guessing he's intelligent and mature enough to recognize 9 in the box and call a check.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Um - take a deep breath||
poor yourself a scotch, or something ...