landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
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|1 day 16 hours ago||That opens up a void on the||
That opens up a void on the MGoBoard, though.
Do you have any suggestions for commenters to be made fun of instead of Wolverine Devotee?
I suggest MeanJoe07. Because he's a koala, and koalas are dicks. You ever seen a koala working at a homeless shelter or ringing bells for the Salvation Army? Nope!
|1 day 16 hours ago||I was wondering the same||
I was wondering the same thing... I'm sure it's lots and lots cheaper to have it in Ann Arbor.
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|2 days 14 hours ago||Well, if he ends up in the||
Well, if he ends up in the NFL, then his career won't have ended.
|2 days 14 hours ago||Nah. I bet Briles ends up||
Nah. I bet Briles ends up somewhere as a coach by the beginning of the 2017 season.
|3 days 13 hours ago||I think it helps. Schools||
I think it helps. Schools look at who your dad is, and think, "Hey, this kid could hit a late growth spurt and reach his dad's potential. Plus, his dad knows people and can coach him up and get him to lift and eat right." And offer lists probably have an effect on rankings, at least a little bit.
At the same time, I've seen pro players' sons go largely unnoticed. Deion Sanders, Jr. was a nondescript recruit who plays CB/KR for SMU. It doesn't help that he's 5'7", but still. Jon Kitna's son Jordan is going to walk on at MSU this fall after not receiving a ton of attention (he was also injured for most of his senior year).
I think a pro dad can help get your foot in the door, but it's not necessarily a deciding factor.
|3 days 13 hours ago||I'm not saying he only has||
I'm not saying he only has offers because of genetics. What I'm saying is that he's not particularly big or explosive or highly rated.
|3 days 13 hours ago||Right now he's listed at||
Right now he's listed at 6'3", 245 lbs. and doesn't have a whole lot of explosion. When I looked last night, he was a 247 Composite 3-star, the #58 WDE, and #1334 overall. I don't think he's anyone to get excited about, and I have doubts that Michigan will push hard for him. But I do like seeing NFLers' sons and watching their careers.
|3 days 13 hours ago||And your problem is that you||
And your problem is that you think that a guy who is a mediocre player is the most important player on the team. You keep skipping around that point.
I'm not arguing for Houma to get 180 carries. Or for anyone else to get 180 carries. My point is that De'Veon Smith got 180 carries and didn't do a great deal with them. He is Just A Guy. There are better players than Smith who have worse backups than Isaac/Johnson/etc.
|3 days 14 hours ago||You'll just have to stay||
You'll just have to stay tuned.
|3 days 14 hours ago||is he related to this guy?||
|3 days 15 hours ago||I'm also very excited about||
I'm also very excited about Uche. I think he's a guy who's going to create some exciting moments for us over the next four years.
|3 days 17 hours ago||Right. I think Smith should||
Right. I think Smith should be the starter at RB. I would prefer to have a more talented back, but he fits a lot of what Harbaugh wants in a RB. However, his performance and his numbers made him an average to below average RB in the Big Ten last year, so I don't see how he's irreplaceable or the #16 most irreplaceable player in the country.
|3 days 19 hours ago||That's not a great||
That's not a great argument.
New England had the best regular season of football in the history of Earth when they went 16-0.
|3 days 19 hours ago||I've had this discussion many||
I've had this discussion many times over the years on the idea of recruiting vs. talent development. I don't think you're necessarily a "great recruiter" if you get talented kids on your roster but can't develop them. At the same time, I don't think you're a bad recruiter if you get mediocre recruits but coach them up. For example, Michigan State doesn't get great recruits, but they find kids that can have success in their system. Does that mean Mark Dantonio is a bad recruiter? That's silly.
I think Brady Hoke could identify talent, but he wasn't great at developing that talent. So where does that leave him? In the middle of the road, I guess. The roster wasn't a disaster when he left, but all the talent that showed itself last year was a bit of a revelation.
|3 days 21 hours ago||Jake Ryan was a Rich||
Jake Ryan was a Rich Rodriguez recruit.
|4 days 6 hours ago||I'm working on a countdown||
I'm working on a countdown right now, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
Your second question is inane.
|4 days 6 hours ago||I'm not challenging De'Veon||
I'm not challenging De'Veon Smith with anyone. I'm saying we had multiple guys last year who were just as productive - or more so - on a per carry basis. There are other players/positions where the drop-off from #1 to #2 is more significant.
|4 days 12 hours ago||I'm not going to waste any||
I'm not going to waste any more time arguing, but I disagree. Strongly.
|4 days 12 hours ago||It's not a big insult to say||
It's not a big insult to say "he's not a great starter-level player." He was exposed at times. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I'm saying the team suffered when we had to count on him (and others) to fill the void at nose tackle full-time.
|4 days 13 hours ago||We don't "know" we have a||
We don't "know" we have a good RB in De'Veon Smith. We know that he is *a* running back. His numbers were not as good as other backs on the roster. He was #8 in carries, #12 in yards, #28 in yards/carry, and #16 in rushing touchdowns...and that's only in the conference. So in a league with 14 teams (and 14 starting running backs), there are 7 guys with more carries, 11 guys with more yards, 27 guys with a better rushing average, and 15 guys with more touchdowns.
Smith did some good things last year. He had some highlight-reel runs. I'm not bashing him to suggest someone else should start. I'm saying you're overestimating his a) talent and b) importance to the team.
|4 days 13 hours ago||*sigh* I feel like we're||
I feel like we're talking past each other. I'm not saying Houma's more irreplaceable. I'm using him as a comparison point. A starting tailback shouldn't be less productive than a backup fullback, and yet they were running behind the same OL with the same QB just this past season, and that was indeed the case.
I don't find the "number of carries" statistic to be convincing. Sam McGuffie led the team in carries in 2008 with 118. Was he the most irreplaceable player on the team? Every team in the country has a starting running back. That doesn't mean he's good or productive or irreplaceable.
|4 days 13 hours ago||Dwumfour is a solid player.||
Dwumfour is a solid player. Ideally, I think he's probably a guy whom you'd like to come off the bench in certain situations or against certain teams. I don't think Hurst is a great starter-level player, and neither was Jibreel Black; however, they are useful and more productive in some areas than guys like Glasgow, Mone, etc. It's good to have a mix of players.
|4 days 14 hours ago||I don't think there would be||
I don't think there would be panic. We very well might have recruited another RB to take Smith's place if he was leaving. Meanwhile, we have Isaac, Johnson, Higdon, Walker, etc. to replace Smith. Rudock is a better player than Smith, and we have less proven guys at QB than we do at RB, but we're not panicking about the QB situation.
|4 days 14 hours ago||I'm not trying to convince||
I'm not trying to convince you that Houma is more replaceable than Smith. Or Kerridge. Or anyone. The OP is talking about the most irreplaceable player, and you mentioned De'Veon Smith. The onus is on you to make your case for Smith as Mr. Irreplaceable.
If he's The Most Irreplaceable Player on The Team, then why was he a less productive runner than the backup, undrafted fullback?
|4 days 14 hours ago||Yes, Smith did carry the ball||
Yes, Smith did carry the ball 39 more times. What's your point?
The difference is four inches (in favor of Houma), but the point is: You're going to have a hard time convincing me that Smith is more irreplaceable than the backup, undrafted fullback who gained four more inches every time he touched the ball.
|4 days 14 hours ago||...and yet Drake Johnson, Ty||
...and yet Drake Johnson, Ty Isaac, and both starting fullbacks (Joe Kerridge, Sione Houma) averaged more yards per carry than De'Veon Smith. Houma was a fullback AND largely a short-yardage back, and he *still* averaged 4.28 yards/carry; meanwhile, Smith got the ball in the middle of the field with a lot more opportunities for big plays, and yet averaged just 4.18.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Similar smashmouth styles,||
Similar smashmouth styles, but Minor was quicker and faster.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Yep. I didn't quite catch||
Yep. I didn't quite catch that the first time around. My bad, Mr. Miggle.
|4 days 16 hours ago||I don't agree with that at||
I don't agree with that at all. If Jake Rudock had been injured for any significant amount of time, we would have been screwed. Speight and the other QBs were not ready to take over the reins of last year's team.