I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
|13 hours 18 min ago||Look Section 1 - it's a known||
Look Section 1 - it's a known fact that everything Urban Meyer does is sneaky, underhanded and deceitful so if he really didn't play Hall (allegedly) then it's ONLY because he got beat out this week in practice by the RS, not cause he was being disciplined. Having Hall suit up but not letting him play in their biggest game of the year would only be something a
|23 hours 23 min ago||Tito's Handmade vodka martini||
Tito's Handmade vodka martini - straight up - with a garlic stuffed olive
|23 hours 39 min ago||Screw both OSU & MSU - much||
Screw both OSU & MSU - much bigger news to take in.
JHackney is BACK and creating threads!!!!!!!!! Can mushroom clouds be far behind? I cant help but wonder if Friday's "state of the board" thread and this post arent connected somehow.
Either way......welcome home!
|1 day 15 min ago||Hoo boy. So much for that||
Hoo boy. So much for that unbeaten streak OSU. Welcome to earth.
|1 day 35 min ago||Why go empty backfield? Why||
Why go empty backfield? Why take the threat of Hyde out of the equation?
|1 day 40 min ago||I'm confused. State threw an||
I'm confused. State threw an incomplete pass. Doesnt that mean a PI call should be made?
|1 day 47 min ago||(No subject)||
|1 day 49 min ago||MNC is more gobs. Lots more||
MNC is more gobs. Lots more gobs.
|1 day 54 min ago||Only the B1G would fuck it's||
Only the B1G would fuck it's cash cow by calling a ton of bullshit PI calls on it and potentially knocking itself out of the MNC and gobs and gobs of cash for everyone.
|1 day 1 hour ago||Ghost of Pos Bang - you were||
Ghost of Pos Bang - you were "created" immediately upon my request for such a "Ghost" persona. Do you remember that?
Does that make me a minor diety at least? If so I would appreciate some nice sacrifices to appease my rath.
Oh and a ham sandwich would be nice too.
|1 day 1 hour ago||Looks like somebody made a||
Looks like somebody made a nice halftme adjustment.
So much for that 17 point lead Spartans.
|1 day 2 hours ago||From that camera angle it||
From that camera angle it didnt look good to me.
|1 day 2 hours ago||I'm going with "yes".||
I'm going with "yes".
|1 day 2 hours ago||I HATE that. Just fair catch||
I HATE that. Just fair catch the ball and you save about 5 seconds and 15 yards of field position.
|1 day 3 hours ago||If OSU hasnt figured it out||
If OSU hasnt figured it out yet they better. They are not going to be able run horizontally against State - their D is just too fast to the ball. The deep ball is there (we had available too but zero time to throw) and Miller's going to have to hit it.
But I agree....OSU is in trouble.
|1 day 3 hours ago||So would a MSU win and a FSU||
So would a MSU win and a FSU loss mean an all SEC MNC AGAIN?
God that makes me ill.
|1 day 3 hours ago||FWIW down here in Ohio my||
FWIW down here in Ohio my Michigan flag is still proudly flying from my flagpole. I'm known to all my neighbors as "that Michigan flag guy".
And proud of it.
|1 day 3 hours ago||By the way before I||
By the way before I forget.....good to see you all.....um...... still alive and stuff.
Ok back to football.
|1 day 3 hours ago||Based on the pre-game||
Based on the pre-game comments alone I think there's a real chance we could make TWIS without our team even playing.
|1 day 3 hours ago||Anybody watching the FSU/Duke||
Anybody watching the FSU/Duke game see the "we CONSENT to winning" sign in the Duke crowd?
Stay classy Dukey.
|1 day 4 hours ago||So next year or the year||
So next year or the year after that when Michigan IS good again you cant complain if we're left out of the discussion. The reason Auburn is being discussed this year is because Alabama & LSU and Florida won in year's past. They are riding the conference reputation.
I want that for us. And the only way that happens is if our teams start winning IMO. Who else from our conference do you see as a threat to make that happen other than these two and us? Wisconsin?
|1 day 4 hours ago||I know I'm basically alone||
I know I'm basically alone here but I'm rooting for OSU to win tonight and then the MNC. And I want Sparty to win the Rose Bowl. I'm sick of the B1G getting slammed as a crap conference and the only way that happens is if our conference starts winning some big games.
|1 day 4 hours ago||Without question. But||
Without question. But neither team is a threat to do that this year at least. And some happy day when we ARE good again I dont want to get screwed out of the opportunity to play in the big game.
|1 day 4 hours ago||Without question. But||
Without question. But neither team is a threat to do that this year at least. And some happy day when we ARE good again I dont want to get screwed out of the opportunity to play in the big game.
|1 day 4 hours ago||I know I'm WAY in the||
I know I'm WAY in the minority on this one but I hope OSU beats MSU and then FSU. And I hope Sparty goes out to the Rose Bowl and beats whoever wins the Pac10.
I'm tired of the B1G being looked on as a crap conference. And the only way that changes is if our elite teams start winning the big games.
|1 day 5 hours ago||No they should not. Unless||
No they should not. Unless OSU loses the undefeated champion of the B1G should play in the MNC ahead of a one loss SEC team
|1 day 5 hours ago||Puss in boots The Increadible||
Puss in boots
The Increadible Hulk
Good Lord what plays do those pictures represent?
|1 day 5 hours ago||I think the winner of the SEC||
I think the winner of the SEC should just get an auto-bid to play in the MNC and the runner up in the SEC should probably also get an autobid too. Matter of fact, next year when college football starts their four team playoff I think the 3rd & 4th place teams in the SEC should also probably round out the quartet.
Cause the SEC is like the best conference EVER.
|1 day 5 hours ago||(No subject)||
|1 day 6 hours ago||Even GREATER offenses at||
Even GREATER offenses at work!
Just need to amplfy the narrative that's all.
|1 day 6 hours ago||"Maul" may be a bit strong||
"Maul" may be a bit strong but yes they are now up two touchdowns.
|1 day 6 hours ago||It would be interesting to||
It would be interesting to analyse how the national announcers call SEC games relative to the score they are watching.
9-6 Alabama over LSU was an example of their fantastic defenses and was announced as such
28-20 Auburn over Missouri (at the half) is an example of their fantasic offenses and is being anounced as such
Heads you win....tails I lose.
|1 day 6 hours ago||Is this the Auburn announcing||
Is this the Auburn announcing crew or CBS National? Wow are they shilling for Auburn right now - if I actually gave a shit about Missouri I'd be pissed.
|1 day 6 hours ago||Mike Debord Stan Parrish Gary||
Other than those three guys? Nobody. You got me.
|1 day 6 hours ago||3-3 Texas/Baylor at||
3-3 Texas/Baylor at half.
Proving without a shadow of doubt that changing coordinators midseason is sure to be a total disaster. Glad Michigan stayed the course and didnt get baited into making a switch. Look how crappy Texas's defense is playing now.
|1 day 23 hours ago||Not that what I think matters||
Not that what I think matters in the least but I never had a problem with MWolverine and I was frequently the target of his barbs. I respected his feedback and comments because, at least when directed at me, they were grounded in fact and never felt mean-spirited or hurtful.
|2 days 9 hours ago||Maybe it's just me but Ilike||
Maybe it's just me but Ilike the posters who disagree with me on issues like Borges, season tickets, ect probably most of all. I've been called out by Brown Bear, Mogodog, the Last Hoke and few others, in a nice way, and it made me rethink my position on a few issues and tone down the emotion on others.
I think most people here present contrarian opnions respectfully. Obviously there are always exceptions but even people I've been most at odds with at some point we've reconciled and moved forward.
Sorry it came to this for Brian but I'm sure he and the staff have gotten the ugly end of the internet far more frequently than I ever have and as I've said since the day I joined the site - Brian's blog-Brian's rules.
|2 days 11 hours ago||The US got screwed by an||
The US got screwed by an international governing sports body known for corruption.
|2 days 15 hours ago||Is it any wonder that the PAC||
Is it any wonder that the PAC 10 is pushing the SEC for conference reputation these days? Look at the coaches they hire when there are openings and compare that to the B1G. We seem to go to the hottest MAC coach available instead of opening our B1G network funded checkbooks and hiring the Chris Peterson's of the coaching world.
With the exception of Ohio State and maybe PSU the B1G generally goes "on the cheap" when it comes to replacing coaches and it shows.
|3 days 8 hours ago||How about those matchup take||
How about those matchup take place between evenly matched teams and not ALWAYS where they have the advantadge of playing against a lower ranked team? They stack the deck not on regarding location of games but also who plays who.
|3 days 9 hours ago||100% agree although you'll||
100% agree although you'll never hear any ESPN talking heads admidt it. They just want all of us to believe that the greatness of the SEC just rubbed off on both Missouri & Texas AM majically.
|3 days 10 hours ago||Gameboy would know. After||
Gameboy would know. After all....he's a GameBoy.
|3 days 11 hours ago||Who thought it was going to||
Who thought it was going to end this year? This year we had three marque home games and were projected by many to contend for the B1G title.
Next year is the year I have heard/read that attendence might take a hit due to the crapola home schedule and growing fan disatisfaction with our mediocre record over the past several years.
|3 days 11 hours ago||Two days. Union rules for||
Union rules for breaks and what not slowed the project down some.
|3 days 14 hours ago||So you're a Browns fan too?||
So you're a Browns fan too?
|4 days 7 hours ago||Wow is this post bad. You||
Wow is this post bad. You should've written:
Drake Harris makes awesome waffles
He is too old to play alleges someone
But he is also quite handsome
|4 days 7 hours ago||We talk about the 95 & 96||
We talk about the 95 & 96 games around here mostly as evidence of a crappy Michigan team (so to speak) being able to beat a good OSU team. And the 69 game is remembered as the launching pad for the Bo era. Would a victory in year three of Hoke's regime be remembered 45 years from now so fondly? Only time (and revisonist history) will tell.
But I'll bet the 89 Baskeball team gets more national attention than those three Michigan football teams. Cause it won it all.
But I understand your point.
|4 days 7 hours ago||Which would forever be||
Which would forever be remembered as the crown jewel victory in our.....
wait for it
wait for it
8-4 season my friend.
|4 days 7 hours ago||I can think of 27 reasons why||
I can think of 27 reasons why it IS on Senor Borges.
|4 days 8 hours ago||Awesome.||
|4 days 8 hours ago||So the question is would I||
So the question is would I rather win the National Championship in basketball or go 8-4 in football.
You know - this one was kinda hard but I think I'm going with the National Championship here. As zesty as 8-4 sounds, my heart says go with the National Championship.
But 8-4 is tough to turn down I agree. It's WAY better than our crummy 7-5 record that's for sure.
|4 days 9 hours ago||"Total lack of desire?"||
"Total lack of desire?" Those are VERY strong and negative words to be using for any athlete, much less one of our own. Unless you have something more substantive than your opinion from watching on TV I think this post needs to come down.
|4 days 9 hours ago||I might pay for it myself if||
I might pay for it myself if I can get cool naming rights like they do with stadiums. I can see it now...the mGrowOld voter moderation button.
|4 days 10 hours ago||I absolutely guarentee you||
I absolutely guarentee you that if there was a kick-starter campaign to pay for the programming to return voter moderation it would get completely funded within 24 hours of launch.
|4 days 10 hours ago||I'm pretty sure Reader 71's||
I'm pretty sure Reader 71's post is a tongue in cheek jab at all the rendering of garments and gnashing of teeth around here everytime Mr Dave Brandon does such a thing.
|4 days 13 hours ago||I think this was on the board||
I think this was on the board yesterday. And yesterday it was worthy of ALL CAPS and lots and lots of exlamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You must not be as excited over the signing as yesterday's poster was.
|4 days 13 hours ago||OSU and I want them to win||
OSU and I want them to win the MNC. I'm sick to death of hearing about how the SEC is the only league playing real football and I want to restore some of the B1G lost lusture. If it takes OSU to do that, I'm ok with that.
And I hope MSU wins the Rose Bowl and every B1G team wins their respective bowl game. Sorry, when we're 7-5 I'm rooting B1G first and foremost.
|5 days 1 hour ago||I have to say that while I||
I have to say that while I disagree strongly with Space, Reader71, Reship1, The Last Hoke, Bododog (I think I got that one wrong) and Sten regarding Borges I have to admidt you guys are amoung my favorite posters on the board right now.
I really like all of your posts and respect the hell out of your arguements for Borges while I disagree with your conclusions. That to me is what makes this board fantastic - spirited debate with people of like mind but different viewpoints.
|5 days 8 hours ago||Is Heiko's really gone? How||
Is Heiko's really gone? How the Hell did I miss that announcement? I give that guy SO much credit for having both the brains to understand what was going on and the huge balls to ask questions nobody else had the stones to ask. I would literally skim pressers looking for his questions cause they were usually the only ones that made any sense and required the coach to actually think about the response and not give some bullshit canned response.
|5 days 8 hours ago||I would do anything for an||
I would do anything for an MNC.....
But I won't do that.
|5 days 9 hours ago||I've heard tell of other||
I've heard tell of other alumni on the board who've made a similar decision to not renew. A couple of them got roundly chastized by others for talking about it all the time so they don't mention it anymore but trust me - they're with you.
|5 days 10 hours ago||What a great analogy. But||
What a great analogy. But like a lot of resturants that used to be great at one time but no longer are, it's living on its reputation for greatness instead of the actual product. You see it all the time in the food industry - a once great resturant living solely on what it used to be.
Making matters worse for this customer at least, is that the owner (Hoke) keeps telling me his head chef Borges is wonderful and whips up the most AMAZING dishes (like ND & OSU) but for me, every third meal is unedible (PSU, Iowa, Nebraska, MSU, etc) so I'm having a hard time justifying his 5 star prices based on his past glory.
|5 days 10 hours ago||My bad. I thought he had a||
My bad. I thought he had a year left.
|5 days 10 hours ago||Isnt that exactly the point||
Isnt that exactly the point of a hypothetical? To propose something that didnt happen so you can discuss the "what if"?
Of course it didnt happen and my point, perhaps poorly stated, was not that ALL Michigan fans would support such a thing if he did it. My point was that I believe the majority of fans would as they would see it as an act of defiance to a crowd (OSU's) we dont like very much.
I have no way of knowing if this would acually happen though. Just a guess.
|5 days 10 hours ago||Exactly right. And for those||
Exactly right. And for those that think if Miller leaves OSU is going to take a big step backward I invite them to watch the Cal-OSU game or any of the others where he got significant playing time.
That dude is good. VERY good.
|5 days 10 hours ago||I dont think it's that||
I dont think it's that strange at all. I'm sure that happens way more frequently than we know, it's just ashes and not identifiable human remains like these were so we never really know.
|5 days 10 hours ago||Extremely well said Eric. I||
Extremely well said Eric. I would just ask this question - if one of our players did this in Columbus, say a Jake Ryan for example, in a game we won - would we be collectively upset and demanding he be suspended or would we be congradulating him?
I'm guessing the vast majority of the board wouldnt want him suspended.......
|5 days 11 hours ago||Anybody, and I do mean||
Anybody, and I do mean ANYBODY, who actually watched the 2009 team play would know there is no way in holy hell the D was "better" than the O. The fact that this analysis somehow suggests that it was just shows how flawed the conclusions they draw from their data set must be.
This doesnt come close to passing the eye test IMO.
|5 days 11 hours ago||Me too. I was surprised they||
Me too. I was surprised they didnt at least use him a little bit this year to get him on the field and if he's not going to get PT next year I would stunned.
It doesnt make sense to me unless there's a super-secret back story nobody's talking about. The guy's attitude seems top-notch and he came in with one of the strongest profile's in his class but he cant see the field? WTF?
|5 days 12 hours ago||The tiny corner shown in the||
The tiny corner shown in the picture looks good to me.
Not that anybody in the athletic department gives two shits what I think........
|5 days 13 hours ago||2-3. There is nothing yet in||
2-3. There is nothing yet in Hoke's resume at Michigan that should give us any sense of false security that we're going to turn things around and start winning road games against quality opponents. We have yet to win even one road game against a team with a better than 500 record.
Until I see it happen once I'm betting against it happening.
|5 days 14 hours ago||As stated on draft day, the||
As stated on draft day, the Pistons have consistently refused to draft any Michigan player for decades - not just under Dumar's watch. It would seem that there is some sort of internal policy forbidding the drafting of Wolverines locally cause it would lead to horrible things like increased fan interest, strong community relations and an overall better win/loss record and those things need to avoided at all costs.
|6 days 1 hour ago||You ARE an old player. No||
You ARE an old player. No fair!
|6 days 1 hour ago||"I'd be more than happy to||
"I'd be more than happy to make a wager with any of the anti-Borges crowd: I'll bet every last point of mine against yours (point for point) that Michigan is at least 9-3 next year, at least 10-2 in 2015, and consistently at that level or better from that point forward."
Steven R.......I'll call. 8-5 or worse with no B1G Championship, no BCS game and another year of frustrating and inexplicable play calls from Borges.
Consider me and you "all in" on this one.
|6 days 1 hour ago||Thanks guys. i just fired up||
Thanks guys. i just fired up the computer and even though the game was over I just scrolled down slowly and "read" the game as it unfolded.
Nicely done all. Especially you Mr. Berenson!
|6 days 7 hours ago||True but I'll bet you||
True but I'll bet you anything that what Hoke doesnt say before he fires someone is "I'm not firing anyone".
Like I said - believe that Hoke is transparent, not cunning, and everthing makes sense.
|6 days 7 hours ago||But it's OK if somebody, like||
But it's OK if somebody, like me for example, starts an OFFICIAL Gibbons thread right?
If it's OFFICIAL it must be ok.
|6 days 7 hours ago||Funny - I see it exactly the||
Funny - I see it exactly the opposite. I dont think people pay enough attention to what he says and read into his words to fit their personal desires for the program. When Brady said to the press after the PSU & MSU games that he loved Al's gameplan and wouldnt change his playcalling I thought he meant he loved Al's gameplan and wouldnt change his playcalling. Others argued that point and said "no, not necesarilly cause you could never openly criticize your OC without significant fallout and in reality he secretly didnt like it but wouldnt throw Al under the bus in public."
I think with Brady what you see is what you get. If he tells us in the next presser he made a doody in his pants.......he probably made a doody in his pants!
|6 days 7 hours ago||What i personally find||
What i personally find amusing is that Hoke has been saying this all along and many people just didnt want to believe it. In every presser, at every opportunity, Hoke has given Borges 100% support of his game plan and his play calling. Why is anybody surprised then when he retains the guy?
Right or wrong Hoke told you what he was going to do here. People just didnt want to believe it I guess.
|6 days 8 hours ago||A double Mod post? These are||
A double Mod post?
These are trying times indeed.
|6 days 8 hours ago||Nor I. And you are one of||
Nor I. And you are one of the people I would expect to be happy about this news and hey, only time will tell if it's the right call or not. I sincerely hope it is for everyone's sake. But I really don't think it is and I really think we've just locked ourselves into 8-4 records for a while.
My main point here is that for the past several months I've been saying this would happen because I believed that Hoke was telling the truth in his pressers re Borges and lots of people here either didnt want to or couldnt believe it.
|6 days 9 hours ago||Borges, Funk & Jackson all coming back in 2014!||
|6 days 9 hours ago||Um.......I told you so?I||
Um.......I told you so?
I guess to some this is wonderful news. To others (like me) it's like the failed two point converstion try emotion multiplied many times over. And yes, once and for all, Hoke DOES love Borges and his playcalling - he told you that in his pressers and he wasnt lying.
And no rage from me. I saw this coming months ago when Brady was telling everybody how wonderful the playcalling was and that he saw nothing wrong with any of it. Just defeated acceptance at this point.
|6 days 9 hours ago||"it has never been easy to||
"it has never been easy to get top notch kids up to Seattle"
Don James would respectfully disagree with that statement. As would Bo & Moeller I would think.
|6 days 11 hours ago||Let's be clear here- I'm not||
Let's be clear here- I'm not blaming the refs either. I'm saying that I went all conspiracy-theroy nutzo when it happened.
|6 days 11 hours ago||Thanks for the input Paul||
Thanks for the input Paul Jenkins.
|6 days 11 hours ago||No kidding on the no-call.||
No kidding on the no-call. Usually when they occur out in space like that one did you get multiple flags but I kept waiting and nothing. I could not believe that every ref missed it so at that point I began my "the B1G wants OSU to win cause it means more money for everyone if the make the MNC" rant in earnest.
|6 days 14 hours ago||Parent and thought it was a||
Parent and thought it was a great game. But not cause I have kids who played sports, rather because I fully expected to get curb-stomped and was very pleasantly surprised we took them down to the last play.
Mine was more diminshed expectations vs outcome than anything dealing with being a dad.
|6 days 20 hours ago||Guys I was at the game. Chad||
Guys I was at the game. Chad definitely has lost his fastball, so to speak, and while he won and was functional, his passes have almost zero zip to them anymore.
|1 week 12 hours ago||Thanks. I'm pretty||
Thanks. I'm pretty twitter-ignorant I didn't even know u could do that
|1 week 12 hours ago||I think you meant to respond||
I think you meant to respond to the "Unreasonable things I expect to happen" thread found a bit down the page. This is the Brian Cook appreciation thread - sorry for any confusion the title caused you.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Those were the two that||
Those were the two that caught my eye as well. Not sure Chow would move east again and I'm really not sure Hoke & Holgerson could co-exist but it's fun to dream. Of the two, Chow is the guy I've always liked if you're going to run manball.
|1 week 13 hours ago||So if I connect the dots||
So if I connect the dots here, Paul Jenkins, amoung others, is giving Brian shit via twitter while posting here on his site? Which would account for being pissed at something in the twitterverse but retribution occuring on the blog.
Do I have this right?
|1 week 13 hours ago||Oh...I thought the AD said he||
Oh...I thought the AD said he was going to be the coach next year, not just for the Bowl game.
What did Narduzi say? I missed that.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Based on the roughly 8-9||
Based on the roughly 8-9 hours per day I'm here I think it's safe to say I like the place very much. It's like a second family in many ways except this family doesnt roll their eyes and get bored when I want to talk Michigan sports for hours on end.
Thank you Brian.
|1 week 13 hours ago||I'm a bit confused. Several||
I'm a bit confused. Several posters are talking about Pelini being out at Nebraska - didnt their AD come out yesterday and say he wasnt firing him?
|1 week 14 hours ago||Well said Brown Bear. When||
Well said Brown Bear. When the game was over I took a nap and then spent the evening putting up Christmas decorations around the house. Then we made a fire, had a couple glasses of wine and visited with my daughter who is visiting from NYC.
The game didnt turn out as I hoped but the team played infinitely better than I expected (feared?)and I had a great rest of the day with my family. It was a good day.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Can somebody shed some light||
Can somebody shed some light a to the genesis of Brian's tweets? It sounds like they were caused by tweets he received but the general tone of this thread would indicate its blog related. I'm a bit confused.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Some very interesting names||
Some very interesting names on that list and deservedly so. Especially if we have an OC position open up here soon.
|1 week 1 day ago||Very very proud of the team.||
Very very proud of the team. Sad we lost but simply cannot question effort or desire. We fell one play short an in the end that one play meant a loss instead of a win.
|1 week 1 day ago||Is anybody surprised by what||
Is anybody surprised by what just happened?
Didnt think so.
|1 week 1 day ago||The ONLY thing you cannot do||
The ONLY thing you cannot do is take a sack. So what do we do?
Take a sack.
But hey....OSU said they were sorry so the refs picked up the flag.
|1 week 1 day ago||down to one time out. Almost||
down to one time out. Almost have to go for it now.
|1 week 1 day ago||Common. The B1G reaps HUGE||
Common. The B1G reaps HUGE benefits if OSU makes the MNC, not if we got 8-4 insteado of 7-5. Which way do you think the money wants the game to go?
Grow up everyobody - we may win but we wont get one ounce of help if we do.
|1 week 1 day ago||In the OSU/PSU game OSU got||
In the OSU/PSU game OSU got the ball back, on their own 30, up 35-7 with one timeout. What did they do? Drove the length of the field,scored as time ran out and crushed PSU's heart.
Oh yes....they also got the halftime kick and proceeded to score again. Urbz just plays at a different intensity than we do. Sad but true.
|1 week 1 day ago||Seriously guys.....if you||
Seriously guys.....if you dont think the B1G wants OSU to win today so they are in the MNC you are being naive. We are suppose to lose and if we want die quitely the refs will absolutely help us.
|1 week 1 day ago||Holding is apparently now||
Holding is apparently now legal. I didnt know that.
|1 week 1 day ago||Make up call. Thanks!||
Make up call. Thanks!
|1 week 1 day ago||The B1G want a B1G team in||
The B1G want a B1G team in MNC. We're obviously not cooperating so the refs need to help out.
|1 week 1 day ago||That was the beer typing.||
That was the beer typing. Beer sucks at grammer.
|1 week 1 day ago||You can thank me for this||
You can thank me for this guys. Fist OSU game I've missed since 85-team is obviously inspired due to my absence....
No seriously......your welcome.
|1 week 1 day ago||Wow...guess they werent||
Wow...guess they werent expecting us to show up either.
|1 week 1 day ago||Agreed. But why is the||
Agreed. But why is the blocking "taking off"? What changed?
Either way this is wonderful.
|1 week 1 day ago||So let me get this straight.||
So let me get this straight. The game is basically looking like a freaking shootout and Borges is holding his own? And Mattison is getting used?
Am I in opposite world? Am I now mGrowYoung? Are burritos good for me? Can I keep drinking without stopping.
|1 week 1 day ago||That's hilarious And||
|1 week 1 day ago||Damn......Does this feel like||
Damn......Does this feel like the Capital Bowl 2007 or what?
|1 week 1 day ago||Al wasnt quite ready to call||
Al wasnt quite ready to call a play?
|1 week 1 day ago||I'm sure there are good||
I'm sure there are good reasons Furman is playing. Playing good defensively is not one of them sadly.
|1 week 1 day ago||Me too Timmmaaay. And I'm||
Me too Timmmaaay. And I'm one of them.
|1 week 1 day ago||I wish I had.||
I wish I had.
|1 week 1 day ago||I'm missing my first OSU home||
I'm missing my first OSU home game since 1985. My wife's dad died on Wednesday so we're sitting this one out. I tried to give them away to the guys in my tailgate and nobody wanted them. So four empty seats for us.
Not fair weathered - just not able to make the trip from Cleveland today.
|1 week 1 day ago||Holy shit...sea of red on the||
Holy shit...sea of red on the opening shot.
|1 week 1 day ago||Losing Gibbons or losing||
Losing Gibbons or losing Ross? Both are better than our "offense".
|1 week 1 day ago||The OSU pre-game show on||
The OSU pre-game show on Cleveland TV was basically discussing how much Urbz needs to run the score up to impress the BCS voters. All three dudes (no idea who they are) were actualy more pessimistic on the final score than Brian....lol. 41-17, 38-10 & 35-10 respectfully.
|1 week 1 day ago||Common now....you of all||
Common now....you of all people know we are young. And when you're young it has been proven that it is phyically impossible to win football games no matter what. I think I remember in the post-game presser Pelini said something to the effect that it was nothing short of a miracle that Michigan stayed within a TD of ANY team, much less Nebraska, given that they were young. He attributed the valient effort to the increadible coaching those youngsters at Michigan were getting.
|1 week 1 day ago||God bless Desmond. I'm so||
God bless Desmond. I'm so happy he verbalized what seemingly all Michigan fans & alumni (with the exception of about six people here on the board and Brady Hoke unfortuntely)have been thinking & feeling for a long time now.
|1 week 1 day ago||I'm cringing at what I think||
I'm cringing at what I think we're going see, color-wise, in a couple of hours. This is going to be like 2009 all over again I fear.
If that doesnt send a message to Brandon I don't know what will candidly.
|1 week 1 day ago||No, I understood his point.||
No, I understood his point. Reader71 played for Michigan and understands schemes, formations and how they both play into or mitigate weakness as well as anybody on the board. I was simply pointing out to him that while there is no way to eliminate the problems inherent in an ineffectual interior line there are ways to mitigate the damage and we've chosen to not employ them. And that the formations we do to chose to run plays from make our weakness, weaker.
|1 week 1 day ago||We're just somebody that the||
We're just somebody that they used to know.
|1 week 1 day ago||Now what did you do? I||
Now what did you do? I assume it happened in the gameday prediction thread.
|1 week 1 day ago||I'm going to break our strick||
I'm going to break our strick "no religion" policy and tell all the mods I'll be praying for you guys today. If things go as predicted I cannot even imagine what your job is going to be like in a few hours.
Today could set records for most deleted comments, threads and users. When the dust settles later you should post the final tally on not just cursing but also the collateral damage you guys had to clean up.
Deus venia animum
|1 week 1 day ago||The Pellini family sure has||
The Pellini family sure has had quite the year now havent they? Brother Carl gets bustedf for smoking pot and loses his HC down in Florida, Bo has audiotape released earlier in the year where he's heard basically telling the Nebraska fans to get fucked, they get rolled by UCLA & Minnesota at home and field a historically bad defense by Nebraska standards. Now Bo comes out and dares the AD to fire him after getting waxed at home by Iowa.
Should be an interesting Christmas dinner.
|1 week 1 day ago||But, but people have||
But, but people have thoughts! And unless they are free to create thier own threads telling others these very important thoughts they run the risk of getting overlooked in one of the 14 other threads where people have posted their predictions for the game.
But hey...I hope like Hell you are right!
|1 week 1 day ago||Respecfully disagree. There||
Respecfully disagree. There are schemes that mitigate weaknesses and schemes that expose them and Borges (for reasons known only to Borges) seems hell-bent on exposing ours.
Not saying he's EVER do this in a million years but if he did go four or even five wide what would the defense have to do to counter this? They would have to stop loading the box and he'd force coverage horizontally which would aliviate some of the pressure on his interior line. Even running out of a formation such as this would create more one on one line situations and less overloads which we've been horrible at picking up.
Instead he jams everything tight, almost to the point of putting a wingback in the formation with his stacked wideouts, tackle over and jumbo heavy formations. He makes punishing the interior of the line fairly easy for the defense (exposing our weakness) and doesnt seem to either understand or care that his seven guys on the LOS are NOT better physically or schematically than than the eight or nine they are facing. His scheme seems oblivious to the talent he can put on the field.
You played at a higher level than I was ever fortunate enough to but I've coached a little bit and I can tell you that whenever I had team i knew wasnt physically stronger and larger than my opponent the LAST thing I tried to do was line up and dare them to beat us "mano v mano" cause I knew I'd lose that battle. So there are ways to mitigate (if not eliminate our obvious line weakness - we just chose to not employ them for some reason.
|1 week 1 day ago||I live in Ohio an I've had my||
I live in Ohio an I've had my Michigan flag flying from my flagpole all week. And all week I wore my Michigan gear everywhere I went and to work.
|1 week 2 days ago||Sounds good to _e. Cause I||
Sounds good to _e. Cause I think the ga_e is going to be an absolute fucking _assacre.
|1 week 2 days ago||I predicted 52-14 OSU. I'm||
I predicted 52-14 OSU. I'm more optimistic than Brian.
|1 week 2 days ago||How pathetic is it that: 1.||
How pathetic is it that:
|1 week 2 days ago||Sadly I think this one could||
Sadly I think this one could get real out of hand cause I'm not entirely sure of our mental attitude and OSU needs style points for poll voters. Plus they really hate us.
|1 week 2 days ago||Agreed. I dont' know. I'm||
Agreed. I dont' know. I'm sure my confirmation bias is at work here as there's not much negative regarding our offense I wont' ascribe to Al right now. This included.
But it very well could be just Devin as you say - I have no way of knowing.
|1 week 2 days ago||Well that escalated||
Well that escalated quickly.
Hey....I'm 54 and one my oldest memories of my father is him turning off the Lions games exactly ONE play into the game when they'd run it straight into the line. I've seen exactly one playoff win (thank you 1991) and the following:
An epic 5-0 playoff shutout in 1970 against Dallas
I was at the only game where an NFL player died on the field (RIP Chuck Hughes)
I was at the Thanksgiving day game against the Bears in 80 when we gave up a 17-3 lead with under 4 minutes to go and lost the shortest OT game in NFL history.
I was at the 1981 season finale against Tampa Bay game where the Lions, who had been previously undefeated at home, lost to Tampa Bay to keep them out of the playoffs.
I watched Billy Sims sign with the USFL, get resigned by the LIons, and then promptly blow his knee out upon his triumphant return
I've seen the Daryl Rogers era firsthand as well as countless other increadibly inept Lions coaches
I was there when Waynes Fontes blew a 38-14 lead at home to the Redskins by going three and out on five successsive possessions, never once handing the ball to this guy named Barry Sanders cause we were a "run and shoot" team.
I watched in 95 when a red hot Lions team, that won their last 7 games of the season, promptly fell behind 28-0 at Philladelphia in the first quarter of the first round of the playoffs.
I watched a non expansion team go winless in the NFL
I watched an NFL pick a wide out first in three successive drafts
I've seen more bad drafts than human being should be forced to endure
And Ive seen more defeats snatched out of the jaws of victory than sports should allow
And I've followed the last original NFL team to never make, much less win, a Super Bowl.
So I get why Salvadore is negative and angry....I truly do. If you're over 40 (and a man as Mike Gundy would say) it's really hard to think any other way.
|1 week 2 days ago||I'm not sure the problem is||
I'm not sure the problem is purely Devin. I think after "Turnoverpolaza" midseason he was coached to STOP THROWING INTERCEPTIONS NO MATTER WHAT by somebody. Like maybe the QB coach perhaps? And in doing so Borges completely fucked up his QB confidence.
And guess what happens when you start playing scared? You won't throw into tight windows and you will wait to make 100% your reciever is absolutely open before releasing the ball. In short, exactly what we're seeing out of Devin right now. That, and I'm sure he is way more injured than they let on. And it's the injury that would account for the Morris reps (if true) this week.
|1 week 3 days ago||Years ago something was going||
Years ago something was going terribly wrong at work and I said "things just can't get any worse" and I was quickly corrected by my boss who said "Wrong. Things can ALWAYS get worse."
If Devin is out things just got worse. A lot worse.
|1 week 3 days ago||Could also mean Devin is||
Could also mean Devin is pretty beat up and one good hit away from having to come out and they want Morris ready just in case.
|1 week 3 days ago||Come ON Timmmay.....that was||
Come ON Timmmay.....that was a joke in response to Akers yacking a 27 yard field goal.
|1 week 3 days ago||Even God himself knew that||
Even God himself knew that wasnt a penalty. Therefore he miracled that ball into our hands as retribution.
SMITE THE REFS!
|1 week 3 days ago||How was that a personal foul?||
How was that a personal foul? No helmet to helmet hit, didnt hit late and it was a perfect form tackle. WFT?
|1 week 3 days ago||Because my balls don't hurt||
Because my balls don't hurt quite enough for my liking I'm flipping over to BTN to watch the replay of the 2005 OSU game.
|1 week 3 days ago||When Bush holds on to the||
When Bush holds on to the ball he's pretty damn lethal.
|1 week 3 days ago||Most Turnovers, Game,||
|1 week 3 days ago||This is SO Lions. Completely||
This is SO Lions. Completely outplay a team, botch two chances to score Touchdowns, give the team a short field on a botch kick-off then cap it off with a fumble returned for a TD.
How soon until the Borges-led offense hits the field on Saturday? I need something to look forward too.
|1 week 3 days ago||I hate it too. And as||
I hate it too. And as mentioned (I believe by M-Wolverine in another thread) it hasnt worked. The B1G is still outside looking in at the MNC and it doesnt matter when the Championship game is played it seems.
The student section might not be pretty and I can hardly blame them given the performance of the team and the timing of the game during a holday break.
|1 week 3 days ago||and THAT my friends is the||
and THAT my friends is the story of my Detroit Lion fandom from 1969 to present day. It's unbelievable that they've been able to sustain having drives like that end like that over FIVE DECADES of different players and countless coaches.
|1 week 3 days ago||I think it is when your||
I think it is when your counterpart on defense IS specifically mentioned.
|1 week 3 days ago||What I posted was Dan||
What I posted was Dan Gilbert's "open letter" to Lebron after The Decision. It was widly mocked for it's tone, the way it was written (lots of ALL CAPS), the Comic Sans font he chose and the general ridiculousness of the content. Which was 100% wrong by the way.
Brandon's "open letter" sort of reminded me of Gilbert's - that's all.
|1 week 3 days ago||Been played on Friday six||
Been played on Friday six times the most recent one in 2009 FWIW......
|1 week 3 days ago||And if the planets don't OSU||
And if the planets don't
OSU 52 - Michigan 14
But I'm hoping you have to mail TXmaizeNblue the shirt......
|1 week 3 days ago||I dont need binoculers thank||
I dont need binoculers thank you very much. My avatar sat right next to me.
|1 week 3 days ago||Yes - that is exactly who or||
Yes - that is exactly who or what he is. You are too smart for him and his little "I went to Central, teach, coach and am on the payroll of MgoBlog" ruse.
Good job sniffing out the disception Shamus.
HEY.....Happy Thanksgiving Magnus!
|1 week 3 days ago||We should all be very||
We should all be very thankful that Alabama/Auburn is being played on Saturday and not on Friday as it has been in the past. If that game was played tomorrow and Alabama lost the OSU ticket demand would go through the roof.
We need everybody there and everybody to wear as much Maize & Blue as humanly possible. And Special K & the MMB need to be on alert that EVERY time those idiots start to sing (and I dont care what the score is when they do) they need to be drowned out by something else. Anything else.
A great performance by the guys in the winged helmets would go a long way too in helping that cause.
|1 week 3 days ago||I might be. But seeing as I||
I might be. But seeing as I have no idea what that means I can really answer.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
|1 week 3 days ago||Happy Thanksgiving LSA - your||
Happy Thanksgiving LSA - your work here is appreciated very much. And when things here get REALLY out of control (like maybe this coming Saturday unfortunately) always remember:
|1 week 3 days ago||My only issue with it Don was||
My only issue with it Don was this:
We have the right leader, and despite the fact we have lost three very close games (and WE ARE ALL feeling the pain that comes from it!) the consistency will come. There have been speed bumps along the way and unforeseen obstacles that have hindered our progress this season, but the resiliency of this team has been remarkable."
And only because the style of writing coupled with the use of ALL CAPS reminded me ot this (without the comic sans font of course):
You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.
|1 week 3 days ago||I love your new avatar BTW -||
I love your new avatar BTW - it's hilariious.
Now, if I'm Al I see the hand-writing on wall too so I'm going out in blaze of Borges-glory. Each and every time I see Brady without the headset I'm calling a tackle over stretch play out on an I set. Every time. I dont care what the down or distance is, I'm calling it. And I'm making sure that I keep Fitz in the game at all costs too. When the headset comes back on I'll go back to calling other plays but just to fuck with Brady & Brandon I'm doing that.
Oh yes....play action? Baby it's coming on every pass play we run.
|1 week 3 days ago||Wait a minute. That's NOT||
Wait a minute. That's NOT you? That's just an avatar? I thought we had to post pictures of ourselves so people would know what we looked like.
All this time I thought I was actually debating Brandon Graham yesterday when I had my run in with "Magnus", that Seth actually was a talking hat and people without avatars were invisable people.
This has made me re-think a lot of things. Plus I'll need to change my avatar real quick!
|1 week 3 days ago||I'm thankful for my huge||
I'm thankful for my huge extended virtual family here. You guys are great.
|1 week 4 days ago||You obviously did not read||
You obviously did not read the post. That was not the question I asked. I asked why certain posters, like you for example, get angry at anyone not renewing. And I specifically said to take me our of the equation when answering.
|1 week 4 days ago||Records since 2008:Michigan||
Records since 2008:
Michigan 40- 36
Notre Dame 49 26
MSU 55 23
Ohio State 62 -14
Reader71, you are one of my favorite "opposite" posters because you always provide logic, reason and insight with your comments. But here you're wrong - we've been mediocre for a while now and it the end is nowhere in sight - to me anyways.
Compared to our rivals over the past six years.....we suck.
|1 week 4 days ago||I would like to point out||
I would like to point out once again that a topic that spurns raw emotion CAN stay civil and up on the board all day. Thank you for eveyone who commented (even those old friends who called me whiney) and offered insight. Believe it or not it was very helpful to me as people, when they want to, can offer intellegent and thoughtful insight and not just snarky nonsense.
We can have nice things. You guys just proved it - thank you.
|1 week 4 days ago||I could definitely see how||
I could definitely see how that could be taken that way. And it would definitely account for the latent anger you see directed at the non-renewers (especially from the those that dont hold seats as you say)
See - I KNEW you could give me a reasoned, intellgent answer to my question! I had faith in you M-Wolverine......
|1 week 4 days ago||Thanks Indiana & Mabel -||
Thanks Indiana & Mabel - Have a Happy Thanksgiving both of you
|1 week 4 days ago||Reading your post while||
Reading your post while looking at your avatar made me laugh.
|1 week 4 days ago||Holy shit Magnus. I've||
Holy shit Magnus. I've reached Mr Rager status in your eyes.
|1 week 4 days ago||Thanks Ontario - not||
Thanks Ontario - not offended, just confused. Thanks for clearing it up.
FWIW - I've found that if the OP stays engaged in potentially explosive threads (like this one) they either damper the shit storm or inflame it. I've been trying real hard to do the former.
|1 week 4 days ago||I wish I had written that.||
I wish I had written that. You captured my emotions & decision-making tree perfectly.
|1 week 4 days ago||Where do you see me doing||
Where do you see me doing that? I thought I was just responding to the negative ones actually. I said "happy thanksgiving" to a few people but I dont remember saying "great post" to anyone.
What prompted that?
|1 week 4 days ago||Not a bad idea. But for the||
Not a bad idea. But for the most part people have been able to discuss the point without getting too wrapped up in their feelings about me. I think it's been productive.
|1 week 4 days ago||Thank you . There is||
Thank you . There is probably more truth in what you wrote than I want to admidt (I realy like the way you write by the way)
Have a happy Thanksgiving!
|1 week 4 days ago||Actually the catalyst for||
Actually the catalyst for this post was not to have the pro/con season ticket renewal one more time. Last night a thread was created that asked that question I simply answered no and everybody went nuts like I had created the thread. And then I watched other people get slammed that simply said no and responses were really angry. And I wondered why the anger was directed at not just me but seemingly everybody not renewing and I wondered why.
|1 week 4 days ago||By the way - thank you to||
By the way - thank you to everyone for keeping this discussion civil. I really wanted to discuss it without it devolving into a shitstorm and so far it has. Even the people who dont like me have been civil in their responses and Shoe even taught me a new word!
|1 week 4 days ago||I had to look up WATB to||
I had to look up WATB to understand it. Now i know I new word!
Have a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well. And you too Magnus.....even though you guys think I"m a whiner .........
|1 week 4 days ago||Can you try? Pretend Steve R||
Can you try?
Pretend Steve R posted this question or somebody else you dont have pre-conceieved negative emotions about.
I would sincerely like to see your response.
|1 week 4 days ago||Thank you. That was a very||
Thank you. That was a very well written and thought out response.
And probably more true than not.
|1 week 4 days ago||721st time I||
721st time I believe.Mr.Carson. I was probably talking about it before you joined three weeks ago.
|1 week 4 days ago||It would seem both you and||
It would seem both you and Magnus are angry at me asking why people are angry.
You guys are just angry.
|1 week 4 days ago||I specifically asked to take||
I specifically asked to take ME out of your answer. I specifically asked why people directed anger at posters simply saying they arent renewing. Not me..specifically not me.
And in your response you direct everything at me. I give up.
|1 week 4 days ago||That makes sense to me.||
That makes sense to me. Thank you answering. I appreciate it.
|1 week 4 days ago||Thank you Steven. Have a||
Thank you Steven. Have a happy Thanksgiving!
|1 week 4 days ago||Agree when directed at||
Agree when directed at posters like me who have clearly done the "I'm going to take my ball and go home" thing in the past. My question is why is it also directed at Joe nobody who simply posts "I'm not renewing". The anger hits everybody....not just people like me.
|1 week 4 days ago||You have 100% missed my||
You have 100% missed my point. I have never ever said anything about "quitting" on the team - I said exactly the opposite. I said I was "quitting" on financial support, not emotional support.
I provided the records to try and explain why some people feel the way they do Magnus - not me.
|1 week 4 days ago||Thanks Larry. I may be one||
Thanks Larry. I may be one of TIMMAY's least favorite poster but you are quickly becoming one of my MOST favorite posters.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for actually trying to answer the question.
|1 week 4 days ago||No you didnt Timmay. You||
No you didnt Timmay. You directed your response to me personally which is exactly what I asked responders NOT to do. You let your opinion about me (one of your least favorite posters) direct your response.
I was honestly hoping people could divorce themselves from their feelings about me and answer the question. Guess not.
|1 week 4 days ago||Timmay: It's directed at||
It's directed at everyone - not just me. My question is, why are people angry at everyone - not just me? Forget me - why mad at everyone?
|1 week 4 days ago||TIMMAY - can you at least try||
TIMMAY - can you at least try to answer the question? You completely missed my point and take me out of your response please.
|1 week 4 days ago||Does this explain why some of||
Does this explain why some of the quitters quit?
Records since 2008 through last week:
Notre Dame 49-26
|1 week 4 days ago||I'm defintely in group #2||
I'm defintely in group #2 (and yes he did do a nice write up) but the vitrol is spewed at everyone not renewing. That's what makes no sense to me. I'm hoping one or more of the angry people post their reasons as I legitimately want to understand why this is happening virtually across the board (no pun intended).
|1 week 4 days ago||100% agree with that. So why||
100% agree with that. So why is their anger? Wny are people mad at those not renewing - makes no sense to me.
|1 week 4 days ago||But it's not another thread||
But it's not another thread on the topic. I'm not asking why are people renewing or not renewiing I'm asking why are people angry at those not renewing.
That's a completely different question and it has not been asked yet.
|1 week 4 days ago||Separated at birth perhaps?||
Separated at birth perhaps?
|1 week 4 days ago||You sir are 100% pure||
You sir are 100% pure Columbian correct.
As much as the apologists want to deny/obfuscate the facts.