Peppers at 10, which seems low.
|18 weeks 2 hours ago||Yedlin||
Reminds me of that kid in might ducks 2 who was fast but couldn't break. Everyone loves his speed but he is so out of control.
|19 weeks 2 days ago||This is why||
People get mad at belien. Yes Caris and Spike are out but that doesn't mean that chatman can't play instead of dakich...
|20 weeks 6 days ago||Meh season||
In every sense. Was there even a single enjoyable game all year - including wins and losses? Last years team was much worse but the games were fun to watch...
|26 weeks 4 days ago||Exactly.||
Recruiting is all about relationships - not just the players but the coaches, the school, the community etc. Why is it that Urban Meyer had to go meet with Thomas Wilcher immediately after the Mike Weber situation? Beacuse if he didnt, no way was a kid from Cass Tech ever going to go to Ohio State again.
This recruiting strategy may never hurt us. Or, conversely, it may keep us from the five star kid down the line who chooses a rival.
Hard to say, but it certainly doesnt seem like the best strategy when they could instead be upfront with the commitable-ness of the offer....
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Predictable||
When was the last time this team played a complete game against a team with a pulse?
|29 weeks 4 days ago||Now we can finally put this to rest||
Since 2001 (when RR started at WVU) he's had - count them - eight seasons of 5 or more losses verus six seasons of four or less. So, in his career he's had more dissapointing - meh seasons than "good" seasons. This is across nearly a decade and a half of coaching in three different conferences.
So yeah, RR is a decent-good coach, but he certainly isn't elite. And now that we have an elite coach, hopefully this is all water under the bridge.
(For reference, over the same span, Meyer has had one 5 loss season.)
|30 weeks 5 days ago||I've had||
This conversation with friends recently as it seems like our lack of recruiting success is due to our so called "cleanliness." And I'm not sure what side I come down on now. When we unearthed some diamonds like trey and nik, it was easy to stand on our morals. But today.... Today it's looking like that 2-3 year run could have been more of anomaly then we all want to admit.
Anyways I will say this: you don't play games with "clean" or "dirty" stamped on your forehead and clinging to this notion that basically is "oh well we do it the Right way," seems a bit hollow when your rivals are playing in final fours and you're sitting at home....
|32 weeks 3 days ago||Yes. This.||
While DUI is more "dangerous" to society as a whole, I think school adminstration would view physcial altercation with a student athlete as being far more damaging then driving while intoxicated.
Case in point: this whole convesration. No one said "...but he has DUI..." when Harbaugh was hired.
|32 weeks 3 days ago||I would||
argue that a "DUI" and "striking a student" aren't very comparable.
|33 weeks 2 days ago||The trouble||
with the Walton thing is that we didn't look any better against Xavier and Uconn - the games he played against good teams.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||I think||
Therein lies the problem- walk ons and small power forwards aren't a recipe for continual success, and if the reinforcements don't come then your left hoping that you can keep unearthing diamonds in the rough.
I agree it's too early - today - to panic, but more and more it's looking like the 2012 run is the anomaly and not, as we thought, the beginning of a foundation...
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Time to||
Burn through some of that depth we heard about and just go full court press all game. Teams are scoring anyways in our half court defense, might as well try to play for turnovers.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah||
Look at turgeon at Maryland. Meh coach but still a top 5 team with the talent they have
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Isn't that||
What we said during the Uconn game?
|33 weeks 5 days ago||I know we have to move on||
But I can't help still being a bit upset at Blake ....
|33 weeks 5 days ago||....||
I didn't think what cook said was that bad -- what was worse is the fact that mr John u bacon is rooting for every big ten team outside of the Wolverines,no? It's like he wants another book deal and the way he's doing is to get in the good graces of all Mich, penn state, mich state, and osu fans. His Twitter reads like a United Nations high school debate. "We're all winners!"
|34 weeks 1 day ago||True||
But in the past B1G coaching searches have been the current MAC dujour (beckman, hazzell, etc). At least now even the bottom feeders seem to be trying to improve themselves...
|34 weeks 1 day ago||All things considered||
I think these are each upgrades from prior staffs. B1G East could easily be the hardest league in the nation, if it isn't already.
|34 weeks 3 days ago||this||
exactly. Those who are blindly predicting year 3 when we take off should take a look at the two deep and what we lose in 2017. Next year is a critical year where we need to do well enough to keep positive momentum knowing that we may have to rebuild in 2017. trouble with next year is that schedule though...
|34 weeks 4 days ago||OSU||
hasn't lit up anyone the way we were beaten on Saturday. And they lost to a team that we took to the wire. I won't argue that OSU isn't more talented than we are, but the disparity in talent does not account for the 30 point drubbing.
|34 weeks 4 days ago||talent||
"That is not a talent issue, unless you think the rest of the season was a mirage."
Thank you brian for pointing this out. After the game alot of people were talking about how we don't have the "talent" to hang with OSU yet. I think thats lazy analysis. We had the talent to go toe-to-toe with MSU and we have upperclass 4 and 5 stars starting at nearly every spot. Maybe this is arguing semantics, but I certainly don't think "talent" is the issue and to argue that point obfuscates what I think was the real problem on Saturday - we have the talent, we just got outcoached.
I thought this team would finish 10-2, so 9-3 with one top 25 victory and an 0-2 record against our rivals feels a bit dissapointing. I would also argue that those predicting 8-4 have to be a bit dissapointed too if none of those 8 victories came against either MSU or OSU. It was an OK year, no doubt, certainly better than any year in the past decade save 2011, but the way in which it ended will cast a negative light throughout the offseason.
2016 will be huge for this program. We have tons of returning talent that will be seniors, but we play our hardest two games on the road and break in a new QB.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||not just||
two games though. its two games plus a potential big ten championship game, rosebowl, or even a playoff game.
|37 weeks 6 days ago||Wait||
So I'm not crazy right? Michigan has gotten f-Ed all year by refs, especially in big play? What did harbaugh do to Delaney?
|39 weeks 16 hours ago||i actually||
think we'll be on the oustide looking in for the playoff BUT the first committee poll last year had OSU #16...
so....you never know.
|39 weeks 16 hours ago||meh||
this is so hypothetical but ill play along -
i think the playoff committee could easily overlook our flukey lost to MSU, and if we beat OSU convincingly (14+ points) - you could see a path to us being ranked ahead of both MSU and OSU. but like i said - all hypothetical. theres still a half of season of football to play, but i certainly dont think we're out of the BIG title contention at all.
edit - also dont overlook the end of the season loss-factor, where the committee may put more stock into recent losses versus those earlier in the year. obviously that would also help us in this hypothetical osu/msu/UM round robin scenario.
|39 weeks 4 days ago||As much||
As I hate him I've wondered how Meyer can't get a snif of the NFL? And at this point I wouldn't mind if the lions took him. Nothing else has worked, might as well try something new...
|40 weeks 1 day ago||would love||
a young alumni, or standing section implemented in the stadium. i get my tickets via stubhub and sometimes it gets tiring sitting next to blue hairs.
|41 weeks 3 hours ago||Peppers||
Gets a direct wildcat snap, Michigan also wins by at least 14.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||thing is||
that was the turning point of the hoke era. (how prescient that it hinged on QB play?) but going into that game, we had just beaten MSU, were first in the division tracking to play for the b1g championship, after finishing a year where we just had won the sugar bowl.
but then denard gets hurt and the wheels fall off...
|43 weeks 6 days ago||Between||
The lackluster announcers and that tiny kicker from ball state, I thought I was watching a high school football game instead of northwestern
|44 weeks 2 days ago||yikes||
i had forgotten about that memphis byu brawl. that was some sucker punch.
i guess this is what happens when you have to follow that byu honor code. its like that line from the simpons:
"no tv and no beer make homer go something something"
|47 weeks 23 hours ago||He didn't||
slip- his legs got cut out from him. #71 IIRC.
|47 weeks 2 days ago||Put me down||
in the 10-2 category, with a win against one of MSU and OSU, the second loss being some random derp on the road.
I'll admit to being a blatant homer, but I still don't see this team doing any worse than 3 losses.
|48 weeks 2 days ago||seems to be obviated||
by the fact that most students keep their license (and thus their parent's homse address), for at the very least their freshmen year. any court hearings, etc for a violations are sent to the defendant's address. that's how my parents found about my MIP - not from the school.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||no love for david simon?||
"the corner" is one of the best books ive ever read, and "homicide" is right up there with it. both form largely the plot of the wire.
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Michigan||
is going to claw their way back just to lose in some gut wrenching fashion in the end.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||there are going to be like||
a hundred "adam weiss" on linkedin who wondered why the hell google searches for their name went up 1000% today.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||No love for esurance?||
lindsay Lohan was good but the Walter white was hands down the best of the super bowl, imo
|1 year 27 weeks ago||Really||
hope he does well. Seems like a great kid and deserves much better than what he got here (not just from the coaches, but the fans as well).
Odd to think, though, that out of our past two quarterbacks, one was drafted as a running back and the other will be drafted as wide receiver.
|1 year 28 weeks ago||Ha wut||
thats not at all what makes Ann Arbor famous. The two events you just mentioned take up a total of like 5 hours per year. And on top of that the naked mile is banned , no?, and hash bash attracts only like 100 people.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||meyer / nfl - question||
brian makes an interesting point that urban wouldnt be attractive to the NFL because of the type of offense he runs. Is this still the case today? Chip Kelly, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick (and I guess Andrew Luck, RGIII circa 2012, and maybe the future NFL Marcus Mariotta) are showing that the league can move a bit towards spread elements with more mobile QBs.
Look at what he did this year getting a third string QB to play for a national title. Look at Arizona Cardinals, a good team that was garbage after their first string QB went out. Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly, and Jim Harbaugh have dispelled the notion that college coaches can't work out in the NFL - I wonder if a bottom feeder team would take a chance on a guy like Urban Meyer? If i am an NFL GM and my options are some re-tread or Urban Meyer, you would have to at least consider Urban, no?
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Pitt||
have close ties to that place. Them firing wannestach was a perfect example of "grass is greener" and now this is what, their 5th coach in 4 years? I think this is a good hire but it's still a barren wasteland over there, and basically has been ever since they moved into Steelers' stadium. It's an nfl town playing college ball in an nfl stadium and there is no school in America that gets less support from their students.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Yep -||
I liked Nuss. Thought he was going to do well here. At the start of the season I argued that between Mattison and Nuss, we had (at the very least) the top3 tandem of coodinators in the conference. Not sure how things went so far south, but that is neither here nor there.
What this just makes official, as if it wasn't already known, we'll have another OC - 3 in 3 years - for our young offense. Hopefullly Harbaugh (if it is Harbaugh) can muster up some quick returns, or we're looking at another season of offensive despair.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||Fox||
has the worst sports broadcast out of all the major outlets, by far. As a soccer fan, it makes me incredibly nervous for the World Cup...
|1 year 33 weeks ago||I agree||
woops double post
|1 year 33 weeks ago||I agree||
with you but if I recall you are usually one of the biggest rr slappies when his team is winning...
|1 year 34 weeks ago||i tend to agree||
with your assestment a bit more, especially this part:
His best win in 5 years was 8-5 Florida. His 2nd and 3rd best wins were rivalry games vs decent, not great Ole Miss in year 1 and year 5. I cannot find a 4th best win in his first 5 years - it would be between Rice in a bowl and UM in a bowl. So in 64 (including 4 bowls) opportunities in 5 years I am at a loss to find a 4th quality win.
Mullen hasn't beaten anyone, really, and has padded his W/L total with the Troys and Alcorn States of the world. And fine, you want to say he's at the Purdue of the SEC. I get that, but we're not asking him to win the SEC Title Game - I just want to see an upset or two that proves he can get over that hump; merely showing up and losing close doesn't count.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||maybe||
a third time will get ya laughing.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||i have it||
on good authority that about 22 of those loses were due to lack of support. and he should have a full 11 more wins that came the year after he was fired. the adjusted record should be closer to 100 million - 0.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||i have it||
on good authority that about 22 of those loses were due to lack of support. and he should hae a full 11 more wins that came the year after he was fired. the adjusted record should be closer to 100 million - 0.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Had to turn off||
the podcast once it became the audio version of the mgoblog-RR-revisionist history hour.
Okay Ace - Michigan didn't pony up for Casteel - even assuming you're right, the only reasonable option to that was to hire Greg Robinson and force him to run a 3-3-5? Surely there were more than 2 defensive coordinators in the world in 2009. But nope - everything bad that happened to RR was because the amorphous "We" here at Michigan sabotaged his every move.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Alright Debbie downers.||
Alright Debbie downers. Let's calm down a bit. Going into this game we would all take a tied game at half. The team literally had the worst start you could imagine and then bounced back. Let's wait to see what happens in the second half before we start our bitching
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Whole half flipped on that||
Whole half flipped on that holding call. Killed our momentum , gave ohio the ball at the end.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Ohio has two timeouts. That||
Ohio has two timeouts. That 15 seconds would have been there regardless people
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Say||
what you want about rich rod but you have to hand it to him -- despite all the challenges he faced here, all the people actively conspiring to ruin his tenure, the fans and alumni who sabotaged his teams on the field, the athletic director who forced him to hire Greg Robinson, the mad scientist who then forced Greg Robinson to run a 3-3-5, despite all that..., the man still has the ability to be the most divisive person in 130+ years of Michigan football.
Congratulations coach! With today's win you are 3-10 against your major rivals since 2007.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||or...||
the opposite. that he knows he's staying and thinks he can leverage this year to get a higher rated kid.
seems to me if your theory was correct, there would be a wink wink nudge nudge bargain with the kid to that affect - and we wouldnt see his coach or his teammates slamming Mullen in the media.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||A lot of people have said||
the Russell bellomy Nebraska game. Odd thing about that game is we were in the drivers seat to goto the big ten championship game - I still think if denard never gets hurt we would be playing in Indy that year. Which would have completly changed the perception of the program - but alas it wasn't meant to be.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||Disagree||
with your assetment re the students. The rest of the stadium was never full, but student section was completely empty the entire game. Empty like 80 rows empty, as opposed to the 10 seats in front of me empty. Thats a mischaracterization to say "an awful lot" of everyone left at halftime. All the students left, most of the crowd stayed until the start of the 4th.
And this after the students marched to fire Brandon, get him fired, and then don't bother to show up to a 3:30 game? Fine. The team sucks. But you're a student. You literally have nothing to do on Saturday but drink.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||Well||
he did tear his ACL in the first game last year.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Also||
you talk about your predictions coming true, well, post them. Let's see the links. I want to see the sugar bowl game thread where you say this is going to be Charlie Weiss part two. While you're at it, I want to see the fire rr thread where you predict that any coach will come in and win 11 games the next year including a bcs win.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||I don't know what this means||
but yes I am sure casteel is making more due to soemthing called inflation. Otherwise I have no idea what point you're trying to make. The fact is he took a pay cut to goto arizona. Period.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||If all your predictions have come true||
you should probably start playing the lottery.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||I think||
people are just anti losing , which we've done a lot during the rich rod years and the last two hoke years. But when hoke was winning even this blog had some meme that he pooped gold magic or something.
That's all this is: Winning , losing, and revisionist history.
No one and I mean no one (not even brian) wanted RR back after that gator bowl. And everyone loved the hoke hire after the sugar bowl. Can anyone just recognize that fact?
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Several||
people point out that rich rod was undermined by nefarious sources in the AD because he didn't get administrative support. These people use the DC salary as the #1 example of that "fact."
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Odd||
" NOBODY is going to take a pay cut and then move their family to take a lateral position. Nobody."
I like you mgrowold but maybe you should Check your facts.
Casteel HIMSELF took a pay cut to goto arizona -- which probably wouldn't even be considered a lateral move from WVU. So yeah, you're wrong here.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||love||
The notion of Marc richt Here
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Holes in their field||
hahaha - so?? It's a football game not a golf green.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Honestly shut up dantonio||
i don't even care if it was some spear planted in the stadium - it's about time this team shows some sort of swagger anyways -- but the fact that it was a foot (if that) long stake just makes him out to be a delusional nut. I mean, you just curb stomped us and basically own us for the better part of a decade. Why can't you just shut up?
|1 year 39 weeks ago||This should be a productive conversation||
seriously lets debate this again
|1 year 39 weeks ago||A story of another epic beatdown in EL||
In January 2011 a Michigan team was going to EL in what everyone considered to be a bloodbath. The team was, at that point, 11-9 with wins mainly against cupcakes like North Carolina Central and Bryant University. They were 1-7 in the BIG, and on a 6 game losing streak. The coach, in his 4th year, was 57-62 at Michigan. He had gone to the big Tourney two years earlier, but most considered that to be a fluke. MSU bros painted their chest – 1181 – the amount of days since Michigan had last beaten state in football or basketball.
It was going to be ugly…
…until it wasn’t. Until an “aneurysm of leadership” propelled this team to victory, to an improbable 4th place finish in the BIG, another invite to the tournament, and set the stage for the machine that is Michigan Basketball today.
What we have now wasn’t even a possibility on that cold winter January evening. Beliein and the basketball team, left for dead in 2011, is now a perennial powerhouse; putting six players in the NBA since that night, with more almost assuredly on the way. All while rampaging through the B1G (the toughest conference in America, mind you) and getting within inches of a terrible block call from winning the whole damn thing.
And the impetus for all of it can be traced directly from that January night in EL.
It only takes one game to change the course of a season, a coach, a program.
Go Blue – beat State.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||3/9||
i stand corrected. didnt think to count the guys and just based my number off brian's.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||regarding the first mailbag question||
why are we not counting matt wile in the calculation? he was a solid punter when hagerup went out last year. his field goal percentage isn't all that great, but its not gibbins-freshmen-year level terrible either. hes a solid kicker who just beat PSU for us. seems to me it should be 3/8, and maybe a 3/7 if you want to give antonio poole an "incomplete." (not sure a medical injury should count one way or the other)
thats not great, i guess, (though i would be curious to see the washout rate for recruits) but it doesnt seem to move my needle one way or the other.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Then why||
when he ultimately left he took a paycut to goto Arizona?
Casteel was born in WVA and coached there since 2001, by all accounts his family loves it in Wva (I think they may still live there...), and he was next in line to be the headcoach...all this before Holgo came.
This is what Casteel said after leaving WVU:
There is no evidence to suggest that Casteel would have come to Michigan no matter the salary. None. Everyone saying anything to the contrary is basing their opinion on speculation.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Casteel||
took a pay cut to goto Arizona. But, by all means, keep living in your fantasy world that it was the lack of money that kept him from Michigan.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Okay -||
well apart from that aforementioned Purdue game (because lets just ignore data points that dont prove your point...) Brian does a UFR of every game. A simple google search can bring up some relevant games where we spent the majority of the game in a 3-3-5 stack: 2010 Wisconsin and 2010 Penn State. I only bring up those games because that seemed to be about when the wheels were coming off. I am sure if I spent more than 30 seconds looking I could bring up more examples as well.
So...yeah, you're wrong.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Everyone||
always says that we would have gotten Casteel if it wasnt for the money, though I have never seen anything besides blog posts confirm the voracity of this story. By all accounts Casteel loved WVU and he was next in line for the head coaching gig when RR left. There is just no evidence that says Casteel was coming if he got more money - none.
What DID happen was that Holgo forced out Casteel : up until a week before Casteel left for Arizona (took a paycut to goto Arizona, actually) he said that he "wanted to come back to WVU."
All this talk that if we just ponied up a few thousand extra dollars we would have Casteel and be winning championships is just bullshit, and it ignores the fact that RR still hired a really fuckin shitty coach in Greg Robinson. There is one reason why RR isnt here today and thats his stupid defense - nothing to do with money, Lloyd Carr, factions, his offense, anything. He hired Greg, he forced him to run a 3-3-5 with no experience, and Michigan tanked. End of story.
But by all means, lets keep re-writing history. Everyone wanted him gone - yes, even Brian.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||so||
after scouring all coaching avenues for literally every feasable name, we're left with basically harbaugh, miles, and mullen. one may never leave the NFL, another is getting old and may never leave LSU, and the third was on the hot seat at Miss. St and was a giant MEH coach up until two weeks ago...
...this seems like it may not end well.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||I wonder||
how the shittiness of this list changes the equation re firing Hoke. If he can somehow salvage this season (big *if* caveats apply), does a new AD take a look at the potential coaching candidates and say "fuggit - I'm not risking MY ass on these guys."
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Unrelated||
but why isn't he on Wtka's "off the field" sunday show? I like Jaime Morris but his program isn't the same without JUB
|1 year 43 weeks ago||How about those||
homer refs on that fumble call - amirite. Those refs really screwing ARIZONA tonight.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||According to who -||
Because according to the NCAA's stats, Michigan gave up 4.93 yards per play and 320 yards per game while Arizona gave up 5.98 yards per play and nearly 500 yards a game.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||This type||
of comment is just stupid and selective. You're watching the game - did you ignore the stat that arizona was something like #90 in yards allowed per game? They played defense for one quarter Jesus that doesn't erase the three years of embarrassment here
|1 year 43 weeks ago||When did||
the national media become the arbiter of reasonable and sound opinions?
|1 year 43 weeks ago||Then what is he talking about?||
The concussion or the ankle injury. People play on bum ankles all the damn time - the outrage is over the concussion, which at the point that Shane came back into the game is so clearly not about reps (or desperation to get reps, if what you imply is correct).
|1 year 43 weeks ago||What does that have to do with the concussion incident?||
Getting reps for Shane at that point is clearly not a factor - Morris was coming in for one play to hand off so DG could get back into the game.
Knowing what I know about the MSM media, this Schnell guy probably had no context of the game, saw the headlines "Hoke Leaves Starter QB in Game Despite Concussion," and sounded off.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||What?||
What is "Schnell" getting at with this quote:
I’m not going to accuse a coach of knowingly putting a player in danger, but I will say this: People in charge do some desperate things when they think they’re close to losing their jobs.
I don't get this at all? Is he suggesting Hoke left Shane in the game because he was desperate for a win, and Shane presented the best option to do so (regardless of whether he was injured)? Because that's what it seems like, and if so, the author has no idea what the hell he is talking about.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||I agree with some of this||
Not sure how Paul Schmidt has avoided any criticism thus far. He spoke to Shane when he came off the field - a concussion isn't like cancer, there are visible symptoms that should be obvious to a trainer with three decades of experience.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||Meh||
Sam is a professional in every sense of the word. He is measured, reasonable, and avoids HOTTAKES. His opinion may be in the minority on this blog, but I think that reflects more on the people here as opposed to Sam just wanting to "toe the company line."
|1 year 43 weeks ago||He ends it||
by saying that he supports Hoke.
"My man Brady I stand by you...and the real OGs, the real Michigan people, we riding with you."
Sam Webb then says "well stated."
|1 year 43 weeks ago||Assuming||
both Hoke and DB are fired, how are their buyouts going to affect us dumping piles of cash in Harbaugh's driveway?
|1 year 43 weeks ago||He has||
no head coaching experience, and apart from one year at Florida in 2010, hasn't been in the college ranks for over a decade.
Not saying I hate the choice, but there are giant questions with this one.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||And||
we've come full circle.
We're in the bizarro RR years, where defense is good and the offense is comically bad; now its the fans hate the coach and the ex-players support him. Seems to me the Athletic Department isnt the only thing broken these days...
|1 year 43 weeks ago||I agree with this||
RR is not responsible for the actions of this team some 4 years after his firing and I'm not sure why he is even being brought into this.
But for the record, I think it is being brought up because Brian has referenced the RR/Denard concssion incident a few times to suggest that he (RR) cared for his players more so than Hoke.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||But he was checked out||
there are pictures of him talking to the trainer...
Now it's entirely possible a trainer of three decades couldn't tell that a kid was visibly knocked out and ignored a potential head injury but... That doesn't seem likely.
And let's not pretend that there has never been a violent hit where the person is fine afterwards. Conversely, there are plenty of innocuous hits that knock people out. My point is we can sit here all we want and watch the hit on a replay gif and make arm chair determinations that Shane was knocked out cold... Or we could think that a medical professional with decades of experience could talk to Shane and Adequately perform their job.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||In response||
tp the OP's question:
Mark Dantonio literally played someone who died on the field and justified it by saying he had the "wind knocked out of him." And, on top of that, recruiting improved at State.
Where was the indignation over that? Oh right, there wasn't because MD was winning games.
Link? Link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZsok00Pio
|1 year 43 weeks ago||THIS IS NOT MICHIGAN||
We gotta stop living in the past.....except when we need to bring up RR in every debate about our current staff.
While we're on the topic of past discussions on head injuries, anyone going to bring up Hoke leaving out Lewan the entire second half at PSU last year? If RR taking Denard out of a game is a fair discussion point (apart from mentioning it above, Brian tweeted about this after the Minny game), then we should also acknowledge Hoke's history on the matter as well. (If I remember correctly, Desmond Morgan was also left out of the Iowa game because of a potential head injury).
Anyways, I am going to go out on a limb and say this whole concussion thing wouldn't be an issue if Hoke is coming off a BCS bowl season and is sitting in the top #10 at 5-0. But he's not, so now everything becomes a fireable offense.
At this point, Hoke's coaching record is not defendable, but I am also not sitting here thinking hes a danger to his team, especially given his past record on players with head injuries.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||In retrospect||
how lucky are we NOT to be playing MSU or OSU at home? Those games could have been 75% MSU/OSU fans....
|1 year 44 weeks ago||May also||
be worth mentioning that Miss St was one Hail Mary away from blowing an 18 point lead with just over 2 minutes to play. Granted - they won the game - but there was enough derp in a signature win to give pause.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||That's me!||
I am such an internet tough guy.
And I guess I missed the memo that stipulated the amount of "standing one has to comment" on a program is directly related to the amount of money donated. We should note that on the blog so I can make sure in the future to avoid any comments made by the proletariat.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Re Dan Mullen||
He was also something like 2-21 against teams ranked in the top 25 before saturday night. And Miss St. blogs were openly debating whether or not he should be fired after last year. The fact that his name is cropping up as a possible replacement seems to be overexcitement to the fact that his team just beat LSU
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Oh Good||
So now we're crediting RR with a 12-1 season that year.
I said this in another thread about people like you: but if you hate Michigan so much, why the fuck do you even watch? And not just watch, but you get so bothered that you feel the need to post 12,257 (give or take) times on a Michigan blog? If you love RR, just root for Arizona.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Give it a rest||
RR wasn't here for what would have been his fourth year. That 11-2 record doesn't count for him; it does not compare at all to Harbaugh's fourth year.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||I will||
Never understand why people who profess to be michigan fans openly hate the team so much.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Yawn||
Color me skeptical . The dude clearly is fishing for page hits. In the same article he says :
If either one of these gentlemen is hired, the road to a Harbaugh gets much more probable. Both Harbaugh brothers and Miles would take the Michigan job under the stewardship of Bates or Manuel, none of them would come to Michigan under Brandon, so change is imminent.
Both harbaughs and miles!! We don't just get one of them, we get all three! Also in the sme article he says john gruden is looking for homes in Ann Arbor, because he loves bates and Manuel too.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||BREAKING NEWS||
This just in: Football coach loses a handful of games over the course of a decade career; fans bitch about it a decade later.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Nuss||
was more speculative based on his prior stops. The ND game wasn't good, but one game does not change an entire career arc. And who has a better offensive track record in the B1G right now? Maybe OSU? Maybe Neb? And if you tell me Jim Bollman at MSU, well, I can point you to some OSU blogs that may disagree...
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I agree with this||
I would also say in order to be a succesful CEO type coach you need to surround yourself with good coordinators. Switching Borges (a mixed record at best) with Nuss (up-and-coming young guy whose been sucessful everywhere he's coached) really should right the ship on the one side of the ball in which we weren't "making plays."
And in all honesty, I know Narduzzi is the best coordinator in the B1G, but how many teams have a better pair of coordinators than we do? Mattison and Nuss may be in the top three in the B1G at their respective positions - thats a good foundation to build from, while Brady handles the CEO duties.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||As Greg Dooley||
From mvictors will say after every loss:
@MVictors: Reminder to WTKA callers, pls rattle off your fandom credentials b4 your rant (e.g., yrs season tix holder, watching team since 19XX, etc.)
So now we know where you, unicycle firefly, fit into the grand scheme of things. Thanks for your opinion and the money you spend on the university will surely make your opinion heard in the athletic department. Also we minions on the mgoblog will be sure to follow your lead.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||PSU||
should be really feeling the scholarship crunch this year. Their recievers won't be at the same level as NDs.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Then freak out at the end of the season?||
Or at least wait until half way through if it becomes apparent that the wheels have fallen off. I just dont understand the notion of getting this stressed this soon over results that are still unknown. Especially, as I mentioned, when we have a perfect indicator from just last year that 2 games does not make a season.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||we're||
older and have a new offensive coordinator, which was like 95% of the problem last year.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||last year||
after the Notre Dame game we looked like national championship contenders, DG was on track to be in NYC for the heisman award ceremony, and brian and ace were literally laughing at MSU in the podcast.
with that being said, can we just wait to see what happens until, oh i dont know, more than two games into the season??
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Sparty will beat the shit out of them||
Interesting. They don't play notre dame this year...I know that sparty is a bunch of thugs but I don't think they are going to get in a massive fight with the notre dame team.
|1 year 50 weeks ago||Any way tickets||
Will drop below the 365$ there going for now on stub hub?
|2 years 3 weeks ago||brian||
please dont leave for four years!
i know i am not alone in that i would love to keep up with the USMNT players you've mentioned, especially during some of the bigger tournaments that are on the docket before russia 2018. i've followed a few USMNT blogs but none compare to what you're put out during this world cup run.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||how would you have liked||
to have brought on LD instead of wondo at the end of yesterdays game? someone who had been there before, a finisher, composed, etc. not saying he would have made the difference (i think the injury to altidore hurt more than LD not being on the team) but we really missed his spark.
to brians main point, i am conflicted this morning. very proud of the team and ill continue to support them but i just cant come away thinking - what others have mentioned - that we're getting closer to the end goal. we're a good team - top 10 maybe - but there is a huge gap between elite and good, and we're not quite closing it. but thats a conversation for another day...
|2 years 4 weeks ago||National team soccer||
Similar to college sports in a way--- a player may be im his prime but you may never see him suit up for your team again. Timmy just had his best game in a us jersey, but more likely than not we won't see him don the colors again...(at least certainly not in another World Cup)
|2 years 4 weeks ago||All things considered||
Our corner of the bracket isn't as dominating as it could be. Argentina is the best team (?) and they haven't looked great at all. I would take our theoretical route into the semis over any other team, especially second place teams.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||brad davis||
starting too is even more WTF
|2 years 5 weeks ago||look||
at that screenschot posted above. there are 6 american defenders level with 3 portugal attackers. and, without rewatching the goal (because i cant bring myself to do that), i think there was only one portugal attacker in the box to our 3 or 4 defenders.
we were not compressed up the field, we had numbers back to defend. your audible oh noes was probably more a result of the time on the clock as opposed to any serious threat. bradley shouldnt have turned it over - he shoulders a % of the blame, sure - but this is a play that could have and shoud have easily been defended.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||also||
the extra day of rest, not to mention playing in manaus, is going to make ghana much more fresh. that, along with portugals predisposition of being mentally weak, i dont see us getting the result from ghana that we want -- which means we HAVE to at least tie...one of the best teams in the tournament...
i dont think it can be understated what that last goal may have cost us.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||not the same||
there are literally hundreds of turnovers in soccer. almost all goals in the history of goals are caused because one team turned over the ball somewhere on the pitch. football turnovers are rare - thats why its tracked.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||thanks||
for your optimistic take on our chances, brian, but i cant but help feeling a bit nervous at the prospect that portugal has all but given up (see their lack of emotion on the tying goal). with portugal having effectively nothing to play for and ghana needing a big win, i can see gahana steamrolling a team that is well-known as being mentally weak.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||This is||
He group stage... There are no ties in the next rounds...
And sure there are ties, but you can't exactly sit here and tell me the regular season for basketball, baseball, or hockey are all that thrilling, regardless of ties.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||Yes||
Isn't this what they called against Brian mcbride back in 2002?
|2 years 5 weeks ago||Also||
Where we really miss LD. No one is talking about brining in brad Davis....
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Bedoya||
Was great tonight. Loved what I've seen from him this WC cycle.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||The us||
Is better than what they are showing. And despite everything Ghana has had what 2 real chances? Whether you agree or not US is in defend first, what's killing them is Bradley's poor play tonight.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Honest||
Have you watched all the games?
|2 years 6 weeks ago||first half||
the early goal helped the US play exactly how they want: make ghana put together passes to score, take your chances on the counterattack, and play defense. unfortunately, the US passes were not crisp at all, and you didnt see much counterattack. apart from a couple 1/2 chances from ghana it worked, but the lazy US passes on the counterattack made it seem worse than what it was.
the jozy injury is a huge kick in the nuts. i like aron, but i dont think hes a starting world cup striker.
what do we see in the second half? would love to push the tempo a bit more - im not confident in our defense pitching a shutout - but we need michael bradley to take charge.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||THANK YOU BRIAN||
i wasnt the only one refreshing mgoblog all day yesterday waiting for this write up instead of offseason michigan news, right?
|2 years 8 weeks ago||yes,||
it is. i noticed that during a live viewing. THERE is your Michigan reference, MGOBRONCO.
|2 years 9 weeks ago||I've really liked||
what i've seen out of Johannsson. I thought going into the game last night, Wondo would be the first striker off the bench. But now, I really hope he's been passed by Aron.
|2 years 9 weeks ago||i thought davis was meh||
im not one to get excited about "should have drawn a penalty" - just because a player falls in the box doesn't mean hes playing well. the cross was great, but i stlil come away thinking that goal was more perfect finishing / terrible marking than anything that davis did.
fair or not, anything davis does moving forward will be compared to what LD could have done - and last night i didnt go away thinking that davis outplayed hypothetical LD.
|2 years 9 weeks ago||And that's the difference||
And that's the difference between a finisher and wondolowski...
|2 years 9 weeks ago||Bradley||
Touch has been off all night.
Gonzo looks a step slow...against Azerbijan...I wonder if he's a candidate to be left off for injury.
Brad Davis... Still confused about that one.
Jones hasn't looked bad as a defensive mid. If he can stay disciplined that's a huge upgrade in athleticism.
|2 years 9 weeks ago||He||
May not start but he will get a run at the World Cup-- he's the first guy off the bench up top.
|2 years 9 weeks ago||Creates||
... but doesn't score....
Snark aside wondo had two uncontested point blank headers. One was a nice save, the other was right to the keeper. He needed to have put one of those in the back of the net...
|2 years 9 weeks ago||i was i had your optimism||
but there is no way i see hypothetical matchup between ballon d'or winner ronaldo and 18 year old mls defender Yedlin being anything but doom.
|2 years 12 weeks ago||i'm no recruitnik||
and not to be "that guy" (who says we don't really want em after they commit elsewhere), but im curious to know how commitable is this offer to tyriq thompson. he's ranked as a generic three star recruit. sure, MSU has made a living off these players, but its not exactly jabrill peppers here either.
|2 years 13 weeks ago||F*ck the NCAA||
What a cluster. Or as Dan wetzel tweeted out "that a player could fail one drug test and be suspended for a year is why a union is needed." Couldn't agree more ...
Feel bad for Mitch but also come away thinking more highly of him from this article. It didn't necessarily work out for him in Ann Arbor but I'll always look back positively on his time here. Best of luck - here's hoping he blows up during the NBA combine and goes in the first round
|2 years 13 weeks ago||wow||
just clicked that link and didnt realize that larry brown at SMU got himself the second highest rated recruit in the country after apparently getting a five star last year. good for him.
|2 years 14 weeks ago||meh||
i have to disagree with you here. i thought the defender slowed down for the ball after he pushed bale out of bounds. and pinto is a backup goalie for a reason. he let an easy goal in early in the game and comes out with his legs wayyy to open. there was no way he wasn't getting nutmegged.
bale, to his credit, didnt stop, but this is more of a case of poor defense and goal keeping versus an "insane" goal. to put it another way, sometimes a guy just makes the shot - nothing can be done about that (a la harrison's three over levert). other times, it feels like you've given the shot up. as a barca fan, this was way more the latter.
|2 years 15 weeks ago||working from home today...||
which means working in the backyard under the umbrella.
will avoid golf all weekend -- my hatred of that sport is probably what many of you feel for soccer. i just dont get it. "lets watch people hit a tiny ball and then walk"
|2 years 15 weeks ago||of course||
no one is shocked, but the article is a pretty good read and i am sure that some of it (most of it?) can apply to every big-time school (including here).
aside from the scandelous nature of the article, i thought this was an interesting tidbit of recruiting information:
Some coaches encourage players to visit other campuses to recruit other players.
maybe that should make us think twice when heavy ohio-lean so-and-so comes to visit (or vice versa).
|2 years 18 weeks ago||But||
Why is this the straw that broke the camels back? Why not the conference expansion, B1G shameless expansion of Rutgers and Maryland, espn's billion dollar deal with the sec, the longhorn network, the AT&T rose bowl presented by Visio and chick fil a, etc etc?
This was the naturally progression when the money got out of hand disproportionatly to benefit a handful of athletic departments. If you say college athletics are now ruined I would say it was heading down that path for a long time...
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Confused||
By the uproar over this. There was a story like two days ago that ohio state ad gene smith got a 20k raise for an ohio state wrestler winning some title. Athletic departments literally have money coming out of their ears at some of these big schools. It's time that students get a bit more of the pie than what they have been offered.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Damn||
That block if called correctly could have given us a national title. Thanks for the reminder...
|2 years 18 weeks ago||has anyone||
gotten more mileage out of a 12 point game than della valla did after nebraska? the way every announcer has talked about him since that game you would think hes destined for the an NBA lottery pick at the end of the year....
|2 years 19 weeks ago||why does||
louisville to me seem like a paper tiger? i have them going to the final four right now but i think im falling for the hype. why cant a senior-laden saint louis team knock them out?
|2 years 20 weeks ago||Not sure if serious||
I did my undergrad during the tommy a years and they couldn't give those tickets away. I remember a game against Miami where the tickets were like 5$ upper bowl and it was still 3/4 empty....
|2 years 22 weeks ago||Do you live in Ann Arbor?||
Or are close enough to travel easily to games?
I only ask because I used to have the same sentiments that you are expressing when I lived on the east coast: "What's wrong for you people complaining about going to Michigan Stadium. I WISH I could be there for a game..."
Then I moved back to Ann Arbor - close enough where I can conceivably go to every game I want - and I get what they were bitching about.
To me, the RAWK music and ads don't really turn me off; it's the money and lack of compelling games. But for one or two games a year (MSU, OSU, ND, Nebraska), I don't really feel the need to spend hundreds of bucks to watch Michigan clobber some MAC cupcake or (hopefully) win easily against Rutgers. Not when I can still expereince the tailgate atmosphere and watch the game on my couch with some nice beers and good chicken wings
|2 years 25 weeks ago||Levert||
Thinks he's kevin Durant out there.
|2 years 25 weeks ago||Levert||
Is beyond frustrating.
|2 years 25 weeks ago||Excellent||
Summary. This should probably be posted in the OPs thread as well...
|2 years 27 weeks ago||Sherman||
Went to Stanford? I thought they had higher standards for their football team.
|2 years 29 weeks ago||Ambivalent||
About this. I don't think Borges was entirely to blame, but hard to argue with the disaster this past second half of the year.
Mgrowold -- what are your thoughts??
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Win or lose I am definitely||
Win or lose I am definitely impressed with state --- which disgusts me to say. I am a hoke "homer" and even I can see they are playing on an entirely different level than us. I am actually impressed we kept it close for as long as we did...
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Don't||
Usually say this but the msm has a great article about the potential politics behind his departure:
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Okay||
Well we have nothing to discuss if you don't think the head coach of a football team is not responsible for his record. You can't argue with stupid.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||this thread is fun.||
and alot of you people are revisionist idiots, sadomasochists, or both.
the worst development of the year has been the constant comparisons between michigan and RR. this place was 95% more pro-rr than anything else on the internet, and the only one upset over the firising was His Dudeness, or whatever ... everyone else saw it coming - even brian.
by the way, he was fired because he had the worst defense in the history of michigan football, was blown out by rivals, and let wisconsin run the ball 40 straight times. (seriously, does anyone remember that wisconsin game or are you all living in bizarro-world, where rr was a successful coach at michigan but somehow got ran out of town...?)
he is doing mediocre at arizona, but so what? he failed at michigan, for almost all reasons that were his fault; whatever he does at arizona will not affect that fact one way or the other.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Yikes||
Hard to imagine our line is actually getting younger, which doesn't exactly inspire confidence ....
|2 years 30 weeks ago||these are the type of stories||
that go right into michigan lore.
sucks we didnt win, but this is the kind of thing that 30 years from now people tell their kids "i remember watching DG throw for 400 yards against ohio on a broken foot..."
heal up DG and bring us back to the promiseland next year...
|2 years 31 weeks ago||100% agree||
only at this blog could the news of an opening game versus florida descend into 150+ comments on Dave Brandon's ineffectual marketing skills
|2 years 32 weeks ago||Exactly||
If you fire Schwartz who do you hire to replace him? Gruden? Nick Saban? Mack brown??
At least they are in the hunt in week 16...-as a lions fan that should be a successful season no?? Sigh.
|2 years 32 weeks ago||Go||
Steelers. Go eagles.
Who didn't see this one coming?
|2 years 32 weeks ago||These are the games that||
These are the games that lions always lose.
|2 years 32 weeks ago||re the timeouts||
i was at the arizona game, but i havent been to a college bball game since my undergrad days. every other posession there was a break - there didnt seem to be any rythm in the game, the crowd never could get into it. there were just breaks, and breaks, and breaks.
was the amount of timeouts in this game an anomaly - or is it becoming standard in the college game? the timeouts had never seemed so pronounced watching on tv...
|2 years 32 weeks ago||I guess||
We will agree to disagree - I just don't see it going back to the so called "big boys" and the rest of them.
Texas tech, Baylor, Texas A&m, and tcu have all had better seasons than Texas in the last five years - and that's just in Texas alone. The landscape is changing, and if I'm an up and coming coach what's the incentive to leave a comfortable situation when I am making a boat load of money and winning?
Anyways I guess we all will wait and see but I think the hiring will be underwhelming and Texas may strike out on their top choices.
|2 years 32 weeks ago||Meh||
Call me crazy, but I think who ever Texas hires will NOT be a big time hire (ie not Meyer, harbaugh, Saban, etc). College football is a crazy world these days - not only with inflated coaching salaries but teams like Baylor, Michigan state, Ucf, Louisville, etc can play in bcs bowl games - there's more parity than ever meaning people can win at "smaller" programs with out the additionally stress. And when coaches like sumlin are getting five million a year for winning zero conference titles or bcs games, why would a coach leave to a big time program?
I mean michigan found this out the hard way and I think Texas will too. Whoever they get I bet the collective reaction will be "that guy?!"
|2 years 32 weeks ago||am i||
the only one that thinks the thomas gordon - nebraska safety swap could have been more of a doghouse-type situation? as in, thomas gordon might have broken some amorphous team rule and was thus delegated to special teams duty?
it just doesnt make sense otherwise to take out a multi-year starter at safety for one game.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||i was thinking||
the same thing. there are some schools that wouldn't take saban with open arms. im not sure if texas is one of those schools, but judging from mack brown and their academic reputation, i am guessing they may not be a win-at-all-cost school. put it another way, would michigan take saban? i doubt it.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||This is||
Best case scenario for michigan, no? A big time program without their senior starting quarterback. I'll take it.
As an aside, is mark richt the most like able coach in the sec- or do I just not know much about him? He seems to be one of the few guys that does things the right way (not over signing?), but I'll also admit a certain level of ignorance if one wants to correct me...
|2 years 33 weeks ago||Well||
Let's not forget that last year msu was 7-6.
They have done really well, no doubt about, but they will fluctuate between good/great to mediocre. Ostensibly, michigan will eventually fluctuate between good/great to elite (assuming this isn't a notre dame type situation)
|2 years 33 weeks ago||Kinda bizarre to say||
But I was thinking the same thing. Elite defense with an offense that uses a lot of dinky misdirection, power, frustrating three yard runs, with the occasional connected long ball.
We don't have to necessarily emulate Stanford when the paradigm is right in our own conference...
|2 years 33 weeks ago||is anyone||
going to be there?
attending a world cup is a bucket list item of mine, but im not exactly chomping at the bit to head out to qatar in the summer or russia after that....
|2 years 34 weeks ago||ace||
was very cryptic about peppers on this podcast, which was less than confident inspiring.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||As Brian says: Football is ridiculous.||
And I would go one step further and say: College football is even more ridiculous. It may be the only sport where past performance does not necessarily predict future results. A look at some of the teams currently playing for conference titles:
Az St 8-5 last season
Auburn / Mizzou total combined record of 2-14 in SEC play last season
Baylor 8-5 last season
Duke – pre-season pick to finish last in ACC Coastal
MSU 7-6 last season
So, for those who believe our record this season proves we’re going to be mired in mediocrity for the foreseeable future, remember that the past isn’t necessarily prologue when it comes to college football…
|2 years 34 weeks ago||re your last sentence||
Felt the exact same way. Those three yards really changed the whole dynamic of the Urban vs Hoke meme. If we convert, Hoke is 2-1 against ohio, 1-1 against Urban. As it stands, he is now 1-2 against Ohio and, most importantly, 0-2 against Urban.
That sets up a must-win at the Shoe next year, otherwise the whispers that say Hoke can't beat Urban would become shouts.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||They are||
A young team. And young teams will lose some games they shouldn't lose, but they will also win some games they shouldn't win. They came up three yards short which sucks but there was enough to build on today to be excited moving forward.
Definitely next year though the leash gets shorter and there won't be any good feelings for moral victories.....
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Agreed||
Go blue! Disappointed as hell but what heart - proud to be a michigan fan and glad I never turned my back on the team. There's a lot to build off of for next year.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||4 lineman||
And the best back in the big ten is nothing to scoff at on offense.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Hated||
That last minute like everyone else... Ah they are playing well but you get the feeling the offense is sputtering a bit and the defense is.... Pourous.
Al has to keep his foot on the gas to borrow a bad cliche. We're definitely not done yet- when this team shows up they are still good.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||He's got to be||
Hurt or at least in the dog house right?? Can't believe he wouldn't be out there....?
|2 years 34 weeks ago||I think||
The most frustrating part of the season is that Brian has become Drew Sharp. If he, and everyone else, hates this team, why not find a new team to support? I hear there is some great coach in the desert that runs a spread offense AND just beat Oregon last week.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||let me see if understand this...||
brady hoke has a comment at a presser yesterday and refers to fans as "fickle."
there are 117 comments about said presser already on the frontpage, none of which even reference the fickle comment.
there are no board postings about the fickle comment.
AND YET, brian posts this rant, at which point a majority of the 140+ comments have agreed this is the most egregious betrayal, a slap to the face of all michigan fans everywhere.
does anyone think for themselves anymore on this board, or do we always have to wait for brian to tell us how we should feel?
|2 years 35 weeks ago||I'm not||
saying florida isn't good, but i think you may be conflating recent florida success for urban meyer success.
since spurrier left (2001), they have had 5+ losing seasons six times, out of twelve years. this spans zook, muschamp, and yes, even meyer himself.
urban won big with tebow, but given the rest of the decade i don't know if you can guarantee a coaching change will bring success.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||pining||
was an exaggeration, but this isn't the first time that brian, and others, have compared this season to a 3-9 outfit and came away saying "3-9 was awful but had an element of fun in it"
|2 years 35 weeks ago||well,||
and with that, the rest of the blog will follow like lemmings off the cliff.
if you're reminiscing about a 3-9 season, then you've either completly re-written history or are utterly delusional. at the very least, you're demonstrating the brain capacity of a child - "this is the WORST thing to EVER happen to me." apart from everything else that happened in that season - the broken bowl streak, toledo, the northwestern snowstorm - we also lost to this guy. yes, if you're pining for 3-9 then you've completely gone through the looking glass, where sanity no longer applies.
the team is bad, sure. it happens. and they may get embarassed on saturday, but that happens too. there is some water bottle story, i think, that brian wrote somewhere back in the day that applies here, and i am taking those lessons and sticking with the team. you all can live in a 2008 fantasy world where nick sheridan has just beaten minnesota and everything is going to be a-okay.
go blue. beat the bucks.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Thank you||
For your continued ability to read into the future while also droning on and on about the same inane points. It's as if you're the deformed child of The_Knowledge and Section1 , but without the humor or lengthy tomes.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||God you're insufferable||
Yes Hoke loves losing And we're going 0-13 next year. If you hate this team, do us all a favor and stop watching now.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||I agree||
And I am slowly coming more towards your way of thinking. I have not seen so much pessimism regarding a non-rich rod coached Michigan team since.....ever? Even when we played Alabama there was more confidence on the board, and last I checked we're not playing bama again Saturday.
I think the underdog role helps this team, Gardner comes out slinging, and our team plays up to the competition. We win by 10 - not comfortable enough though to prevent me from having multiple heart attacks
|2 years 39 weeks ago||well||
only 23 points were allowed by the defense in the notre dame game...but i think your point is still valid
|2 years 39 weeks ago||Seth||
Was also one of those people...
|2 years 40 weeks ago||I agree with you as well||
The Norfleet hype has been around since he committed and Brian called him his favorite recruit in the class. Since then it's been a lot of confirmation bias (seeing what you want to see) and extrapolated hype from the mgoechochamber. I think he's good - and can be great - but the way people talk about him despite all the evidence to the contrary is just another example of the masses parroting Brian.
|2 years 40 weeks ago||Well||
you appear to be wrong, as Rod Beard from Detnews tweeted out 35 minutes ago that Leyland is taking an as-of-now unnamed position within the Tigers organization. He wants to retire a Tiger.
|2 years 41 weeks ago||Well||
as we all know the transitive property of college football is infallible. Which is good, I guess, because that means we’ll beat MSU (since they lost to notre dame)…
…but wait, MSU beat Indiana, who I’ve been assured we’re going to lose to next week. So if we beat notre dame, and notre dame beat MSU, but we lost to Penn State, who lost to Indiana, who lost to MSU, then we…tie MSU?
But facetiousness aside, you naysayers out there saying we’re going to lose every game are so myopic that you just parrot “Durrr AKRON durr” and ignore the million other data points from the season. We’re favored in three of the remaining games, I believe, and a pick-em in the fourth. By objective standards we should still be looking at a 9-3 season, or at worst 8-4.
|2 years 41 weeks ago||Why?||
Go ahead. Tell me how we would be "lucky" to beat both Iowa and Indiana. Explain to me how Nebraska is an automatic loss. Or tell me how Northwestern would have to "forget how to play" inorder for us to stand a chance.
|2 years 41 weeks ago||The headphone||
debate is a red herring. Aside from the point the poster above makes, Hoke has a guy next to him who keeps him informed about the playcalls. He's mentioned this before in press conferences and you can even see him on the sidelines. Hoke knows the plays and knows what is going on, both on offense and defense. He doesn't need a headset to keep his hand on the pulse.
|2 years 41 weeks ago||I am||
worried about the same thing...