I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
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|1 day 8 hours ago||IMHE||
This is where DB's strategization to wring every dime out of the paying customer pockets, including students: Many of the posters on this board, many, if not most of the fans sitting in the other 85k seats, are alums...alums who went to as many home games as they could. Who developed the love of the game, love of the team, love for Bo, Yost, the stadium, etc.
Today's students, pushed to the fringe, won't have those memories, won't have nearly the positive glow burning within, to share this with their own kids, to establish a dream of not waiting until fall rolls around, so we can go to 6-7-8 home games again.
Today, DB thinks selling off dynamically priced Akron game packages to some family from Okemos will make lifelong fans. Dream on...
|1 day 8 hours ago||As we've discussed here||
My grand idea was for DB to come up with a "Loyalty Rebate" on the PSD to those of us who've held season tickets for over X years. Didn't happen.
Agreed on the kernel of this article, nice way to present the issue.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Shakes fist in your direction!||
NP. Pricey stuff, and you hit the nail on the head originally. Been doing this with the family (son, his friends, my friends, my brother, my wife)...son is a Jr in HS, so unless he's in AA, we can slide by on StubHub for 2014.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Actual Ticket Price||
is a bit short of the mark:
More like ~$1860 for 4 season tickets (at least in 2013...)
|1 week 14 hours ago||Long, but not too long response||
We’ve shared a few comments (Sec 1, too) with regard to the growing disappointment with several/many things related to M Football and the current handling by the AD.
As you request, let’s hope this doesn’t turn into some flame attractant! What I see is that many people realize a) there is no waiting list (announced attendance for Akron – 107k+ attests to the fact that the AD didn’t sell out all the season ticket packages they could have)…and b) the fact that there are singles available (purchase up to 4 for Saturday’s game, down from up to 6 for Minn or Neb)…so c) it tells people that the pride felt at having the largest crowd in America is not going to be ours much longer. And finally d) they want you and me to continue making that happen.
I’ve bought tickets post-graduation and been a season ticket buyer 21-22 straight years. My Victors Club point total stands over 110…so I’ve given, and given a lot/quite enough. As can be seen on the ticket price chart, I’ve been there, paying for all the Akrons, Appy States, et al. Attending all those games. No one can question my loyalty or my devotion to the program.
I guess it was a pipe dream that the AD would offer us a “loyalty rebate” or discount off the PSD, considering the foul 2014 home slate, and our years of support. Fat chance, eh?
I can’t answer why people have lashed out at you or others for not re-upping…though they tend not to be season ticket holders, nor longer term as you and me…other than what I typed in the first para.
Hope you and the missus will make a trip or three every year, but like you, the willingness to part with $2400/yr (or more) for 4 seats has evaporated. We’ll buy via the open market, let someone else donate. I may donate to the College of Engineering, but not to the AD until we have the product on the field, and the product throughout, to make the experience the rich and tradition-filled event it was while attending school.
|1 week 2 days ago||House would||
Mock your intelligence in pressers for asking stupid questions
Call everyone around him "IDIOTS" (including DB)
Pop a vicodin (perhaps offer to share with injured players...or even wounded MGoBloggers)
Search for the root cause of what ails M Football after 2-3 rounds of futility
Scheme, manipulate people
Solve the problem himself, wearing a headset and firing Borges midway through the 2nd quarter of the 2nd game of total ineptitude...
Whip out his Stratocaster and join the MMB duirng the halftime show
(Thanks to the OP for a lighter tone post...and HOUSE is MADE for this role!)
|3 weeks 1 day ago||We||
seem to have a lot of that on this board/in this thread.
It's unfortunate, but not surprising, that opinions people hold dear, they're gonna hold onto for dear life! To those who dismiss your comments, or MGrowOld, or others, miss the fact that while MGoReadership is a slice of fandom, and a passionate one, the reality is...we know plenty of fans who are NOT MGoBloggerati, and they are equally annoyed/fed up, and looking to dump their season tickets, too.
Fandom should not be part of this discussion.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Correctamundo||
As stated above, thousands of tickets were available...still are, for several games. Don't let anyone fool you into believing demand is so high that you can't find a ticket. Just keep looking...scalpers were standing at Stadium and Main as we walked in, charging VERY little.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Mundane?||
I didn't see mundane in there.
Circle K added things I overlooked to include...the uniformz and unretired numbers BS. The halftime show which evolved into an advertisement for "Victors for Michigan" donation/shame/guilt grab.
It's all slick packaging, advertising the AD and lame self-promotion, rather than organic gameday activities and retaining the pageantry and everything else we all loved about football Saturdays as students.
The fantasy the AD is now imagineering, that bringing your 5-12 year old will make a Michigan fan for life...if they can't afford tickets, there will be more empty seats.
And I repeat for those who insist all tickets will be sold...at least 6000 seats are unsold and part of the single tickets available for purchase via Dynamic Pricing. My row in Section 20, from my 4th seat to the aisle, ten seats...five were occupied. For Nebraska. With an 18 game home winning streak. That model of fandom is not sustainable...and fans will vote with their wallets, once their butts have departed.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Thanks||
I've been reading of your increasing dismay in full agreement.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||When Someone Wants to Sponsor Me||
Please reach out here on mgoblog.
I paid $2650+ for 4 seats in Section 20 (around the goal line, ~40 rows up). Except for ND, this year, I couldn't sell an extra or a pair for anywhere close to face/paid/greater than $40 each. The dynamic model is selling tickets for less than I paid (Akron) including the PSD, and there were still thousands left prior to that game.
Anyone who thinks there's a waiting list, or hundreds/thousands of people/families interested in obtaining season tickets (replete with PSD payment), please, continue to keep that public face, insistent that my fandom is in question.
I have earned Fandom Endurance Merit badges over the years, paid PSD's, been a season ticket holder over 20 years. I have some number of Victors Club points that put me in the upper quartile/quintile of all Victors Club donors.
And yet...I'm being charged a premium price for an inferior product. I get the following:
HD screens with Dave Brandon, stupid costumed students and a few young kids, few actual replays (let alone game stats that are current to the action on the field)
Play calling that is average at best
Rawk music from dog groomers
Splashy videos telling me how my donations make life great for the rowing team, or womens field hockey
"New traditions" that don't take hold, in a sleazy, marketing-driven attempt to replace ACTUAL traditions.
How does all that make my Saturday great?
At the end of the day, I'll buy tickets on the spot market, either StubHub or some other avenue (mgoblog ticket spreadsheet), and spend the $2000 I save on Wings tickets or some other more satisfying endeavor.
See what I did there...still a fan, still supporting the team, my team. Just not getting fleeced by Dave Brandon and his band of henchmen. Thank you, no, I'll be happy to keep my money in my wallet for the next couple years until ticket prices normalize, and become more reasonable to the games actually being played on the field.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Entirely correct||
Always amazes me there are those who INSIST someone else will buy tickets if I forego the opp. Stunningly, on the dynamic mgoblue.com link, I could have bought 6 tickets to the Nebraska game if I wanted to. And I can buy up to 4 tickets for the OSU game.
Akron was a different story altogether...and 2014 is filled with Akrons, not ND's and OSU's.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Pioneer||
has been open a while. Got here at 9:15
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Actually||
There was a "Maize Out" against Wisconsin, and AT&T gave away tens of thousands of t-shirts. Probably wouldn't happen today, since the AD's brilliant HAIL program will give a student a free maize t-shirt AFTER the student attends all 6-7-8 home games (on time), >12 home basketball games, >8 home hockey games and >6 non-revenue producing games. They wouldn't want AT&T horning in on their incentivization!
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Mostly agree||
The bevvy cups from years past had Pontiac logos, Coke logos, now they have Coke and Sodexho logos. Plenty of corporate names/logos on the pillars in the concourses (Marathon Oil comes to mind). The ATM's are brought to you by Huntington Bank. Actually, U-M has been very aggressive in keeping the air traffic to a minimum, citing FAA/Homeland Security concerns...which never seem to be a problem at Super Bowls over the past 10 years...but the AD can then cut out that free advertising for which they seem to think they're owed a cut.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||His Pic||
Has a kind of greasy Miami Beach vibe that would be at home taking in large duffel bags filled with coke money from Tony Montana & Co.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||Calling All Scalper Entrepeneurs||
Not looking for the run of the mill guy selling tickets to a single game...more the budding capitalist who gobbles up dozens of tickets...how does his/her model work? Buy 40-100 tickets at prices as low as possible ($20 each?) and try to sell the first 50% of that weeks stack to break even, then sell the rest for the profit? In all my years, I've never sold a single or pair for anything close to face, let alone what I've paid for them. (Of course, family demand is far higher for UTL or OSU or even MSU games than the rest of the schedule...Big TEHHHNNNN be damned.) What I see is dynamic pricing would pull the buyer willing to pay the higher amount into the AD orbit, probably causing problems for the scalper to recoup his/her investment for that particular week. OTOH, IU, Rutgers and Maryland tickets will be in plentiful supply, and dynamic pricing won't apply...everyone who wants to go will get a ticket for the same low entry fee...$20. Comments and insights appreciated.
|21 weeks 15 hours ago||Poster||
During that season, they were giving away posters of 9 of those guys...not sure who wasn't on it, likely Datsyuk. I grabbed a couple of them which are now in the memorabilia vault of the LL Estate (i.e. unfinished man cave or "basement")
|22 weeks 5 days ago||Ding! Ding! Ding!||
We have a winner! How the truth could get so muddled by the poster above is beyond me. The Woods riding the pine issue is one that still rankles to this day. The dude played for the Pats, being one bitten arm away from fully recovering an Eli Manning fumble to ice a SB win. I can't find the Belichek quote, but he excoriates LC for his treatment of Woods, IIRC, wondering wtf they were doing in AA.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Double Take||
on the double asterisk. That's the average secondary market price for endzone seats? This consumer wants the raw data and the method of calculation. As I said above, I would have loved to be able to score $65/extra seat for any of the snacky cake opponents over the past 3-10 years. About the only time I can garner those numbers are OSU, MSU and ND...and then I've already got a slate of takers from within the extended family. They aren't going to make the trip/miss Sweetest Day/miss Halloween/whatever to see U-M vs. Akron.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Possibly||
But those 8 packs of end zone seats that were presented...remember, for every ND and OSU, we have two CMU/Appy St/MD/RU on the schedule, too. Forgot...Indiana, too. I wish I had access to the various secondary markets the AD presents for probable prices for some of those less desirable games. I would have LOVED to get $65/ extra seat for every game last year bar 1-2.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||You, Sir, Are Correct||
Can't agree more, KT. Lots of hand-wringing in the Lexus household over the cubic dollars dropped on PSD's and seats for 4, Section 20. Add in tailgate expenses, possible dinners out and parking at AAG&O, and there are reasons for not taking primo vacations every year. DAB needs to be careful...I sense more and more people are going to cut back on how many seats they buy...my strategy for the future will be buying 2 instead of 4, and adding a StubHub or other means single as needed.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Agreed||
Which is why my comment a bit farther below, I think the upper limit of people/fans/corps willing to pay PSD's has been met.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||How Believable?||
I don't know that I'd trust/believe everything written by Loch Dog and DAB. Selling end zone singles to "potential" fans won't actually amount to anything but a sucker paying too much for a single that could be latched onto via private sale or StubHub (not via U-M AD) for less. My crystal ball may be hazy, but I'm willing to argue with all these end zone seats being available today (in packs up to 8 seats, natch!), we've hit the upper limit of how many people are willing to pay PSL's to see U-M play the schedules they play.
|24 weeks 6 days ago||WOW Factor||
disagrees with you. DB's stated purpose for the mascot, jet-pack man, parachuting the football in, etc. is to excite and engage the next generation of Michigan football fan. Can't say there are that many non-affiliated young kids sitting in $95 seats, but you never know.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Please Don't Forget||
Not aimed at you, PFP...Stanford essentially did the same thing academically for their football players (as does ND) to offer, and the players enthusiastically enroll in, courses that are titled "Kinesiology" here, BGS or some such at ND and Stanford. My thoughts back in the uber-successful days of football for The Cardinal was that it seemed the tatted/mohawked football players didn't seem to share much in the way of culture or background with the student population in general. That thought still holds...
|26 weeks 1 day ago||Not surprised||
since it seemed enough end zone seat opportunities opened up that I was offered up to 8 seats for "non-premium games." I kind of wanted to open a new post to ask people to input the reasoning behind the seeming glut of tickets, but would guess first and foremost was the overall expense and essentially boiling it down to buying ticket(s) to 2-3 premium games for $5-600 each (or more) and getting 3-5 lousy throwaway games for free. Tough to justify the whole enchilada, year after year.
Edit: I have ~120 points, not sure if the new grad/letter winner points have kicked in yet or not. Another mgopost concept was to try to get an idea of the profile of the mgoreader, their graduation date (if applicable), whether or not they are mgostadiumattendees, how many priority points they have, etc.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Illiniquest 2||
The Sequel! Race to the Bottom!
|30 weeks 6 days ago||Similarly, Cakewrecked|
|30 weeks 6 days ago||Barbra in CDN||
equals Celine Dion. /s