talk to caris yo
|2 days 5 hours ago||Down south, when people meet you they ask you what||
church you belong to.
That's not usual up north, and I think most people's reaction would be NOYB.
|2 days 15 hours ago||Mullen has accepted 30 committments||
and he has only 19 seniors on his roster.
Math says this isn't the only kid who will be disapointed.
|2 days 16 hours ago||And I count only 19 seniors||
on their roster.
|2 days 16 hours ago||Magnus - am I remembering correctly||
that their initial offers from Michigan were grayshirts? So when they got a scholarship it was an upgrade.
Unlike this case here at MSU which is a downgrade.
|4 days 5 hours ago||re O-Line||
I'm sure he recognized the issue right away. But where, exactly, was he supposed to find experienced O-Line players to tranfer to UM to fill the holes? This isn't the NFL, where you can find free agents. You have to find players to transfer. But then they usually have to sit out a year (see Ty Isaacs) AND they have to be admitted to the school. It's not that easy to transfer to UM, which for example makes the JUCO transfers that other schools utilize an unlikely option.
As for one position group bringing down a team's performance isn't that, for example, a contributor to MSU's losses this year? I seem to recall reading that their DBs are not as exceptional this year as last.
And finally, I'm no football expert, but I was under the impression that the game depended a great deal on the lines. So I'm not sure how effectively one can scheme around a lack of bodies and/or experience on the lines - offense or defense.
|4 days 6 hours ago||His results have pretty much||
parallelled the decline in average age on the O-Line. I'm sorry, that declining age isn't on him. And we have another example of the effects of poor O-Line recruiting (due to sanctions in this case): look at how Hackenburg's production has declined this year due to the lack of O-Line (IIRC, 2 of their starters are converted DL.)
Magnus is in the forefront on criticizing Hoke on not taking a QB in 12. But are you really so sure that taking any QB, just to have a QB, in 12 would have fixed things now? Isn't Bellomy the counter to your argument? Oh, and they did look for another QB - remember the search for a grad transfer/juco transfer? But nothing panned out.
But what's really killed them this year is the interceptions and the dropped passes. You can look at game after game where if the ball hadn't been turned over/dropped so much some losses could have been wins. It's not as if they've been coaching that. And there has been speculation that Gardner's performance has been hindered by injuries. As for Morris, maybe he's not the answer. Or maybe a QB who had mono in his SR year of HS and is working with the 2nd OC in 2 years shouldn't be expected to be ready to start in his 2nd year.
|4 days 7 hours ago||Recced you for the 1st paragraph,||
up until the Gardner bit.
People DON'T consider the impact of youth enough. They keep saying that they are tired of it, that plenty of other teams win with youth.
Well, UM has the 2nd youngest roster in the Big 10, next to Penn State.
There are only 12 seniors, and only 2 of them are on offense - Gardner and Burzinski, who hasn't started this year.
I usually find that the "other teams win with youth" arguements don't hold water when investigated. Someone recently claimed that school X (I forgot which one) was winning with 12, or more, freshman playing on offense. Well, when you checked the depth chart all the starters were SRs or JRs, with 1 SO. The freshmen showed up on the 2 and 3 deep. If your starters are almost exclusively upperclassmen, especially on the O-Line, I don't think that's "winning with youth."
|4 days 8 hours ago||I really believe transition costs are being underrated in most||
pros & cons.
You can dress it up however you want, but the beef with Brady Hoke boils down to he hasn't won fast enough.
Now, he got 1 more year than RR, so I guess that's progress. But I simply don't see this fan base putting up with another 3, 4 years of transition. I really think whoever comes in has to be able to win with the roster Hoke has assembled within 1, 2 years. Any coach who wouldn't find the players for his system on the current roster IMO won't be able to win fast enough (and based on comments on this blog I'd say fast enough is basically the Urban Meyer level of winning.)
Really, with the youth (UM has the 2nd youngest roster in the Big 10) and talent, if UM can't hire this type of coach then as unpopular as it is you might as well give Hoke another year and see what he can do whith his first senior class (2011 shouldn't count, as it's the hybrid Process class) and a QB recruited for his system. I may be wrong, but didn't Brian argue at the beginning of Hoke's tenure that the fan base should be patient in the face of being too impatient with RR and see what Hoke could do with his 1st seniors, since Bo's position was a coach should be given 5 years before being judged?
|5 days 11 hours ago||As a player, Pearson was recruited by Tech & UM||
He chose Tech.
|5 days 13 hours ago||But are they really perfect?||
Sure, they have high winning percentages. But Saban uses oversigning and St Saban's to help achieve that. And even Bama fans joke about punishment for infractions is dependent upon a player's position on the depth chart.
While Meyer seems to have recruited more than his fair share of problem children. (Hernandez is at the top of this list.)
|6 days 7 hours ago||Deleted||
Showed up in the wrong place
|6 days 11 hours ago||You might want to listen to hoke's press||
Conference. He stated that he made the decision,, spoke with Hackett re it. Hackett told him it was his (hoke's) decision & the university stands behind it
|6 days 11 hours ago||That doesn't mean anything||
Gruden, dungy, cowher, etc come up every time too. Sports writers probably have a macro set up with their names. But mentioning their names doesn't make them serious candidates
|6 days 14 hours ago||Do you really have that low an opinion||
Of hoke's ethics? That he only disciplines players when the public eye forces it?
|1 week 6 hours ago||See previous examples for possible responses:||
Csont'e York was suspended while being investigated, and dismissed from the team about a week after charges were filed.
Darryl Stonum was suspended from the team for a year and dismissed from the team about a week after he violated probabation.
|1 week 15 hours ago||Take up your beef with AD Martin & Coach RR.||
When Brandon & Hoke came on board there were no charges against Gibbon's and no sexual misconduct investigation.
It was only later, after the sexual misconduct policy was revised, that a misconduct investigation was conducted. And based on the leaked information,once that investigation resulted in findings against Gibbon's, he no longer played.
|1 week 1 day ago||Excuse me.||
Hoke isn't the coach who didn't recruit sufficient O-Line players, which shortage Michigan has been suffering from this year and last.
At another university, Hoke would have had the option of recuiting JuCo transfers to fill the gap. But that's not a viable option at Michigan, so he had to recruit freshman and wait for them to mature (4 or 5 years.) Next year the O-Line will finally have 4 upperclassmen starting, the most since 2012.
And to forestall the "the O-Line hasn't developed,"yes, it has. There is a noticable improvement from last year to this, and from the beginning of the season to now. It does take SOME time to develop O-Line men, and 2 of the O-Line men are in only their 3rd year with the team, and 1 is in his first!
|1 week 2 days ago||Disdain & dismissiveness?||
Sounded like the truth to me.
|1 week 2 days ago||Not ncaa's jurisdiction||
This is a legal matter. State ag/doj are probably the interested parties
|1 week 2 days ago||"his track record isn't nearly as impressive"||
His track record is 20 years shorter
|1 week 2 days ago||Yes||
And he apologized to hoke, and asked the ad to apologize on his behalf to the rest of the student athletes
|1 week 3 days ago||Do people even research before they make statements||
It took Schiano 5 years to get a winning record (oh, and the 2 previous years were a downward trajectory.)
In his 11 years at Rutgers his record was 68-67.
This seems awfully similar to Hoke's record before he was hired at Michigan.
And Hoke's record at Michigan is 31-18, which is deemed fireable by the MGOBLOG community.
|1 week 3 days ago||Like it did from 55 to 75||
But this time the school has more than 2 games broadcast a year, and the TV money to go with that
|1 week 4 days ago||I'm calling BS||
Their 1st team on offense is all JRs and SRs with the exception of one SO. When you go to the 2 and 3 deep is when you find freshmen.
|1 week 4 days ago||That's your opinion.||
Seth did some analysis on when Oline players can be expected to be good, looking at UM 1993-2011. [http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-when-will-o-line-be-ready] Answer: only 1/3rd will be solid+ by their 4th year.
UM's 2014 O-Line:
LT: Cole, FR
LG: G. Glasgow, RS JR (and former walk-on)
C: Miller, RS JR
RG: Kalis, RS SO
RT: Braden, RS SO
|1 week 4 days ago||The amount of talent that hoke||
Inherited is debatable
|1 week 4 days ago||It's the 25th percentile score||
But the president did say something in his remarks (don't have the exact quote) expressing a concern about admitting kids who can't do the work
|1 week 4 days ago||His statment was||
"The past two years have gotten better, but before that the graduation rates were terrible, with football somewhere in the 50s and 60s." So the transition year would seem to be included in "before." Could be even earlier, as MGOBLOG used to report on APR during the RR years, as it was concerning.
|1 week 4 days ago||Based on Schlissell's comments to The Daily||
wrt APR and graduation rates, I believe this needs to be examined for all CC candiates. Since the president is on record this way, no point in selecting a coach who can't get his recruits admitted. [See Demar Dorsey]
A quick look at Utah State shows that its APR hasn't been so good. It was 912 in 2004 (1st year in online database.) Now, it has improved through 2012, to a current high of 988. The average during Anderson's tenure is 965.
As a school, Utah State is much less selective, accepting 97% of applicants. Minimum SAT scores are about 150 points lower than Michigan
He only has 1 full season at Wisconsin, so hard to judge that. Wisconsin is harder to get into than Utah State, but is still easier than Michigan.
|1 week 5 days ago||Nice post.||
I know that there's no convincing anyone. But I get tired of all of the lazy/revisionist comments. I really should lose my password.
|1 week 5 days ago||Is Saban really that amazing?||
I know that he's won several MNCs while coaching in the SEC. But the SEC permits over signing, he's exploited the medical loophole, and LSU and Alabama aren't as difficult as Michigan.
In the Big 10, where you can't oversign, his record at MSU was 34-24-1. He only had 2 winning seasons in his 5 years, with his last and best being 9-2.
In the NFL, his record is only 15-17.
|1 week 5 days ago||Re Ohio State.||
Tressell was the coach for 9 years. He had a system & his players in place. Fickell was hired initially as interim & served as headcoach for 1 year. He was a blip. Urban Meyer was hired on 11/28/11. The NCAA gave Ohio State special permission to let him start recruiting while Fickell finished coaching the season, even though technically that put them 1 coach over NCAA limits.
At Michigan, it is MGOBLOG's position that Carr did not recruit well his last several years. This, and transfers, "left the cupboard bare for RR." RR ran a different system than Carr did and recruited a different style of player. The 2011 class was the hybrid Process class. Between 2009-2011, Michigan's coaching staff recruited 6 offensive linemen. There are 5 players on the Oline; because they are highly technical positions it takes recruits 4 to 5 years to become good players; and about 50% of recruits don't really pan out. [Numbers from diaries by Seth &/or the Mathlete.] PSU's 2014 team, where the Oline is feeling the effects of severe scholarship reductions, looks very similar performance-wise to Michigan's 2013 Oline, which had the last 2 seniors from RR's recruiting classes. Michigan's current coach had to restore Oline recruiting & his most senior players on the line are RS JRs from the 2011 hybrid "Process"class with modest star ratings. Objective individuals with coaching experience have indicated that the Oline has shown improvement during the season.
|1 week 6 days ago||100,000 record only goes back to nov 75||
The stadium has seated 100k or more since 55
|2 weeks 1 day ago||It's a physical game||
And isn't "just Hoke's" teams.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Tech just extended Pearson||
To the 20-21 season.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||MLS as the anti-corporate?||
The FIRST thing that comes to mind for me wrt soccer is the advertising in huge letters across the front of the jerseys.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||There are many counter arguments to what you've written.||
But for me, the highlight is the cognitive dissonance between your assertion that the AD was fired because he's an ass, and the board clamoring for a coach in part because he is an ass.
|3 weeks 15 hours ago||55-6, really? Bo only averaged 34 points per game against||
Indiana. Guess you've been calling for UM's coaches to be fired since Yost.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Hoke was asked specifically about the end of the half||
in the post game presser. He eplained his reasoning. You may not agree with his strategy, but "bungled" might not be the best characterization.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||What did he inherit, roster-wise, when he arrived at||
Stanford? For example, from what you've said/what the numbers show, passing didn't improve until he got"his" quarterback." And until "his" quarterback was in his 2nd year.
I'm especially curious wrt the defensive roster. Changing DC's every year? Is that because they weren't getting it done, or were they dealing with youth like UM has ben on offense, and maybe some of DC churn might be better attributed to impatience?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||re Your indirect criticism that the football S&C||
staff don't use things such as yogo.
Have you readmaizemama's diary on the women's football academy? http://mgoblog.com/diaries/2014-womens-football-academy
A key quote from her diary re S&C: "They also have optional yoga on Tuesdays and 30-40 guys do that."
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Another Demar Dorsey?||
When Pepper's is attending UM and has played in several games?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Ok||
Pink mouth guards are a step too far. They look like a pacifier. Obviously not enough women in decision making positions in the AD's office.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||No, it's not illegal.||
Some small portion of Saban's salary is paid by the school. The rest is paid by the boosters.
And Alabama isn't the only school that does this. Before Saban was hired, when Alabama was wooing RR,WV's GOVERNOR worked the phones to raise the money to help keep RR at WV.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Poor analogy||
For several reasons
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Not so much||
of that on this blog recently.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Which does not make him unique.||
For example, Northwestern's Pat Fitzgerald is also tight-lipped about injuries, only saying that it's an upper or lower body injury.
The interesting question is why did Michigan reduce the amount of info they'd release on injuries this year as compared to previous years? For example, last year Hoke would admit to player X having a boo-boo. I myself wonder if it has something to do with privacy issues. Supporting this suspicion is the article that Angelique(?) ran after the 1AM press release, explaining all the layers of review and signature the release went thru, inlcuding Shane Morris & his parents OKing the release of his medical info.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Or maybe the lesson to take from Kill||
is that the internet was all Fire Kill! He can't win! Fire Kill! His illness is a distraction! Fire Kill! He can't coach effectively with his illness!
Then Minnesota beat Nebraska in 2013, getting the signature win that Kill believed the team needed. And this year they are already bowl eligible, for the 3rd year in a row, and are leading the Big 10 West. And now the internet is all what a good coach he is.
But you know what? Someone said this in 2011: "Jerry Kill is a tremendous football coach. He and I both have MAC ties, and he'll have his group ready." That someone was UM coach Brady Hoke. So maybe, just maybe, we should take what the internet says with a grain of salt, and give a little more credence to what coaches say about their peers.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||In last night's radio show, Jim B.||
specifically asked about Shane, and Hoke said that Shane is the backup QB for the MSU game.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||See PearlW's post.||
I agree, that's what Hoke said on radio last night.
You'll note that the only exact quote in Snyder's tweet is"some guys." As an aside, why would anybody on this board assume that anything from the Freep is accurate?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Welcome back.||
I missed not having a recipe last week.
Best feature on the blog.
The recipes keep getting better & better.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Yes.||
It's amazing howmuch similarity there is between the fans/boosters comments in these exmples and current Michgian fans/booster comments.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Read maizemama's diary||
Those sound pretty much like the goals/metrics nussmier mentioned in his presentation at the women's football academy
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Bo had 2 heart attacks while coaching um||
The 1st in 69
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Read Maizemama's women's football academy diary.||
I don't think Hoke posted the sign reminding the players that MSU are the state champions because he wants to downplay the MSU game.
But I also think he isn't interested in creating bulletn board matriel at press conferences.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Oh, I don't know||
Seems like hoke's ball state coaches did pretty well against 2006 michigan
|4 weeks 6 days ago||10 years ago includes 4 years of Carr.||
Shouldn't the Board's collective brain go tilt, since RR's "offensive genius" scored fewer points than "stagnating in the 2nd half of his career" Carr?
I suppose the more rationale board members would point out that MSU's coach during the Carr years was John L Smith. RR's and Hoke's teams faced teams coached by Mark Dantonio.
|5 weeks 18 hours ago||Well, Woody did go for 2.||
'cause he couldn't go for 3.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||If you had read Heiko's interview with Borges,||
you would know that Hoke makes the call on 4th down.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Hmm...I seem to recall that a certain||
Tackle had a bunch of stupid penalties during the 2010 season
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Don't know about the clipboard||
But I know that hoke does not stand apart from the coaches - there are too many pictures of him & matti son talking during the game
|5 weeks 2 days ago||What, in Schlissel's remarks at the||
Regents mtg, makes you believe such an abrupt, even reactionary, move would be made?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Actually, what may have more bearing||
Is Schlissel's remark that "There are a number of additional issues facing the athletics dept that will require a longer-term approach as we work to establish the right balance..."
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Per mlive story, one of those things||
Is reducing price of student football tickets
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I wasn't aware the Michigan's coaches said things like that.||
I thought it was the fan base.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I know, like they can talk.||
If your 8:00 calc & physics classes were anything like mine, the guys arived at the last minute, unshaven & wearing clothes that were maybe one step up from pjs.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||My understanding is that it's a long-standing tradition||
for the Slippery Rock score to be announced during games, and it's one of those inexplicble things that the fans have latched onto. And Slippery Rock gets a kick out of it.
I believe this will be the 2nd game Slippery Rock has played at Michigan Stadium.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||This staff hasn't figured out any part of an offense in 4 years||
And maybe, just maybe the fact that there are 2, count 'em, 2 freaking seniors on offense this year, 1 of whom is a walk-on, has something to do with "hasn't figured out any part of an offense"
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Greenberg is a corporate shill.||
If's he's arguing for 2 SEC teams in the playoff, then that's what the suits at ESPN want.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||It was a high risk/high reward decison.||
Given the practice/school limitations the coaching staff knew that Gardner could only prep for 1 position: WR or QB.
Given the state of the roster, and a desire to win, was the best use of an athlete like Gardner (a) back up QB who only starts if the 1st string QB can't or (b) WR who's starting every game?
They went with B. Up until Nebraska, they went 5-2. Robinson gets hurt in the Nebraska game, and they have to play Bellomy, and they lose.
They switch to Gardner as QB the next game and go 3-2 (including the bowl game).
The fanbase is criticising this decision knowing what happened. But the coaching staff didn't know how the season would play out when they made the decision. Hoke is being criticized heavily right now for being a "dinosaur" and not being aggressive enough with his decisions (see field goal v. go for it on 4th down in the Rutger's game); how about giving some credit where credit's due wrt to the Gardner as WR decision? After all, even if may have cost UM 1 win, Hoke still lead the team to a better record than RR saw at UM in his 3 years.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||When will people stop||
With the "hoke won't make changes due to loyalty."
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I wouldn't be so fast||
to assess Doeren's tenure at NIU as "Urban Meyer at Bowling Green llike."
Bowling Green prior to Meyer: Bowling Green's previous coach was there for 10 years, had only 2 winning seasons, and the last 6 were losing, with the last 2-9.
NIU prior to Doeren: previous 2 coaches had 8 winning seasons in the 10 season's before Doeren's hire. 4 bowls in the last 5 seasons before. Last 3 seasons went 6-7, 7-6, 10-3.
Seems to me that Doeren inherited a better program from Jerry Kill (yes, Jerry Kill coached NIU from 2008-2010 prior to being hired at MN) than Urban inherited from Gary Blackney.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||The nerve of Hoke,||
not cutting players like Saban.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||2011?!||
So now we're blaming Hoke for The Process? For Pete's sake.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Perspective is lacking.||
Brian, you write stuff like this:
"This was the best performance from a Michigan offensive line in a long time.
I have no idea why this happened or if it is replicable. When we've seen this happen on this team for one particular unit, the next test generally sees the unit implode."
And based on what you've written the last week+, my take away is that you blame it on incompetent coaching and Dave Brandon.
However....Seth wrote a diary back in Jan 13 where he analyzed when the O line, where many knowledgable football people believe an effective offense begins, could expect to be ready.
The starting line last Sat consisted of 3 star Miller and 2 star Glasgow class of '16; 3 star Braden and 4.7 star Kalis class of '17, and 4 or 5 star Cole, class of '18. (Classes from MGo depth chart.Walk-ons assumed to be 2 stars.)
Seth's analysis projects that a 2 or 3 star Jr/Sr has a 23% chance of being a "solid starter," a 4 star So/Jr has a 31% chance and a 3* So/Jr has a 14% chance of being a "solid starter, " and a 5 star freshman has a 19% chance of being a "solid starter."
Looks to me that expectations are unreasonable for the current Oline given its age and star rankings.
2014 Penn State's Oline seems to be a good cross check for 2013 Michigan's Oline performance, with both lines suffering from a lack of stars and upperclassmen - Penn State due to the severe scholarship reductions (65 scholarships total) and Michigan due to prior unbalanced recruiting, and Seth's analysis.
I believe that it is prudent for the AD to be putting together a short list of coaching candidates since, even when taking the above into account, it seems for some reason that the wheels have fallen off this year. But the truth on Hoke & Cos. performance probably lies somewhere between 2011's hero and this year's goat. And thus isn't deservng of the vitriole reflected on the blog.
For 2015 and beyond it would probably be more beneficial to try to understand why/how a year like this happens. But hey, it's your blog, so as you were.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||All 2 of them?||
(Number may be slightly off, but since there are only 9 seniors on the Mgo depth chart, and at least 1 of them is a5th yr sr (Gardner), I'm probably not that far off)
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Didn't this also happen under Bill Martin,||
while stadium renovations were underway? Seems to me I've read about this on the board.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Can you imagine mi fans being||
This excited about a win. Put mi fans in the place of ole miss fans & it would be complaining about losing the previous 11 games, how the team didn't win by a large enough margin, how al wasn't really that good this year so the win doesn't count as much, eyc
|7 weeks 2 days ago||And what is stopping you from||
Welcoming the football team home, win or lose, after the Rutgers game?
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Hmm...||
One is a D1 athlete at a power 5 school who studies film as part of his job, with other power 5 players and coaches
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I know it's been hard to find,||
As it's buried under a mountain of fire Brandon/fire hoke.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||How do you acount for 50% of Hoke's wins at Ball State||
being on the road? And since they played 10 games against Big 10/ SEC schools, 9 of his away losses should be due to a MAC team being outclassed.
|11 weeks 14 hours ago||Again with the unrealstic expectations.||
If Texas couldn't buy Saban away from Alabama, he's not coming to Michigan.
We've seen how Miles plays every coaching search into a pay raise at LSU.
As other posters have stated, they'll believe Harbaugh leaves the NFL when they see it.
So, where does that leave Michigan? For a lot of reasons, it's extremely rare to see coaching changes mid-season. So unless Hoke loses the team, assume he's the coach for the rest of the season.
But that doesn't mean that DB isn't putting together a list of short list of head coach candidates. One advantage Michigan has this time is a balanced, talented roster, albeit a young one. So it's probably folly to hire the latest offensive guru whose claim to fame is a sytem that isn't compatible with the current players.So who out there is (a) looking to move up and runs a system that fits with Michgian's players or (b) would be willing to lateral and runs a system that fits with Michigan's players? And (c), Michigan Man or not, is a good fit with the Michigan/Big 10 culture?
|11 weeks 17 hours ago||And if UM had won today,||
it would be the equivalent of an 11-0 season in the MAC by that reasoning.
Sounds like your problem is with the confernce, not the team.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||SC, did you see improvement from the scrimmage?||
For example, in your scrimmage analysis you said the following re the run game:
"They did look better running the inside zone. They more consistently got into their assignments. Unfortunately, they did very little once they got into their assignments. Feet stopped moving, they lost their punch and didn’t power through to finish drives through their feet, hips, and then upper body. At best, they stalemated."
Better, no difference?
|12 weeks 4 days ago||re "college potential"||
Ted Spencer, UM's admissions director, had the following to say in the recent SI article on Hoke:
"“He is looking for kids who will both academically be successful and whose character is strong enough to participate in Big Ten sports and represent the university very well,” Spencer says. “I’m very pleased with the kind of young men he is bringing to us. I give him an A-plus in that area."
|14 weeks 16 hours ago||Seth wrote a Hokepoints addressing when||
the Oline might be good. http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-when-will-o-line-be-ready
The first chart, examining almost 20 years of Michigan history, indicates that Oline players have been mostly backups in their 2nd and 3rd years. It takes 4/5years for them to be solid or better.
This years Oline, except for Miller, Glasgow, and Byrzinski, is all 3rd year or less.
Based on this, it appears unresonable to expect Funk to accomplish in 2/3 years what it took other Michigan Oline coaches 4/5 years to accomplish.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||I'm pretty sure||
the coach in the dorm story was Miles.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||It's availability, too||
App state moved from div 1-a to div 1. When you change divisions you have a lot of openings as it takes some time to be incorporated into your new opponents schedules.
|17 weeks 15 hours ago||How do you "know"||
that Hoke doesn't like to redshirt? With the attrition that the program has experienced in the 2011 and prior classes and the resultant dearth of upperclassmen (somthing like only 25 juniors and seniors last year,), the program hasn't been in a position to afford redshirts, a fact which you admit ("I am on record I want almost all of our freshmen to redshirt <b>when we finally have our numbers up</>." [emphasis added])
|22 weeks 1 day ago||I really think||
you should at least removeve those recruits who never made it to campus. I saw Demar Dorsey & stopped reading because you can't develop a player who never was on the team.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||Tiger Woods||
The networks want tiger woods in tournaments. It makes a big difference in ratings if he's not playing
|24 weeks 4 days ago||Going forward||
Should be a tshirt.
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Alabama fans||
grumbled plenty about him this year. The AD is probably saner than the fans, as there is definitely a vocal group of the "what have you done for me lately" variety.
|25 weeks 3 days ago||That's news to||
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Aren't um athletes required||
To give compliance access to their bank records?
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Slippery slope||
That's a slippery slope
|29 weeks 3 days ago||But don't you think||
That the recent depth issues (see Brian's & Seth's articles from yesterday) contribute to the lack of a "real" spring game?
|29 weeks 6 days ago||That's what I get for using Wikipedia for a source.||
I see now what my issue was with 2013 UCONN: record split over 2 coaches. I'll trust you on App State.
And thank you for making my point stronger.
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Your prediction would be stronger if your facts weren't suspect||
2013 UCONN: FBS. 8-3
2013 Utah: FBS. 5-7.
2013 App State. FCS. 8-3
2005-2007 App State was the 3 time Div 1 FCS National Champ
|29 weeks 6 days ago||But the salary is also a statement in the football arms race.||
I get that many fans think Hoke is the wrong choice,and based on his won-loss record should not have been hired. (For the record,I think W-L is only one criteria to consider,and may not be the most important criteria. See Rodriguez, R.)
But you have a new AD, an incumbent coach who is not meeting expectations, and decide you need to replace said coach. Oh, and let's remember how many coaches passed on Michigan in 2008.
As AD you believe the Michigan head coach is one of the premier jobs in CFB. But the salary is not comensurate with that position. So you pay your new coach, and your coordinators, what the other top programs are paying.
Which may be part of the reason Michigan was able to hire Alabama's offensive coordinator this off season. And if you should need to hire a new head coach after the 2014 season, wouldn't you expect to be able to attract more of the top names in coaching?
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Brian, you may not like how things turned out,||
but that doesn't mean DB was on the losing end of the deals.
For example, the sanctions thing. I'd contend that accepting responsibility and not shirking your punishement is an example of "the Michigan diference." See UM re the basketball violations. Or do you really want Michigan to be more like Ohio State, with all that that means?
The Borges raise: timing is everything. Borges got that raise after Michigan went 11-2 and won the Sugar Bowl.
Notre Dame: Like DB was going to be able to change ND's mind. And since football schedules are set so far in advance, he didn't have much to choose from.On paper, it's fine: ND replaced by a team from the strongest conference.
The only thing from your list that to me is inarguably a loss is the Ohio State/MSU scheduling. But I don't agree that UM/Ohio State in different divisions and the protected crossover is bad. Put the 2 historically strongest programs in opposite divisions to set up frequent UM/OSU playing for the title. The script writes itself for TV.
|30 weeks 3 days ago||Or that something could be||
that the Spring evaluation period recently started.
|30 weeks 4 days ago||How dare||
How dare a coach with what, around 120 assisstants and players, delegate.
|30 weeks 5 days ago||Some long needed perspective.||
The "It's impossible for the Oline to be better" crowd seems to have forgotten how much the D improved from RR's last year to BH's first year.
Caveats do apply: Oline is evidently more challenging to master, requires a longer apprenticeship, if you will. Seth or The Mathlete's analysis (I've forgotten who did it) shows that some Oline players reach the desired performance level in year 3, while others do in year 4.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||I've taken this several times||
and it always puts me in different parts of the country. I need a pasty question for it to figure it out.
|40 weeks 4 days ago||Frequency is the difference||
Chicago gets snow every winter. They either have the equipment to deal with it or nobody goes anywhere for what, 3 months?
Snow is such an infrequent occurance down south, more of a once every few years event (even if we've had more than one storm this year) that it isn't economical to invest in much snow equipment. Plus, after a couple of days the weather returns to normal and the snow melts.
I moved down here from western PA 25 yeas ago. Maybe 5-7 snow events in N AL in that time? The worst was it stayed below freezing for about a week before the sun took care of it. And yes, I'm out of practice driving in the stuff, and no my car's not equipped for it. so like the locals I stay off the roads. Besides, the local response to precipitation (snow and rain) is drive faster!
|42 weeks 4 days ago||Is your issue that the AA police didn't investigate?||
Because the source of much of the info posted on this board the last couple of days is the police report.
Or don't you believe that a University should have a Code of Student Conduct and hold students accountable to it?
|42 weeks 4 days ago||It is generally considered a good thing if all student conduct||
is handled by the same university office. Problems arise when athletes' conduct is handled by on office under the AD.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||new info?||
"Our current process allows that, if new information is obtained at a later point, the university could commence an investigation at that time."
This could be what happened.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||Oh, so that's the problem||
With the lions. And all these years I thought it was the fords.
|42 weeks 5 days ago||Actually, as several posters have pointed out,||
FERPA prevents the University from saying anything about Gibbon's educational status. You'll note in the Daily article that both the AD's office and a University spokesman when asked to comment said they couldn't say anything about it.
So Hoke can't say anything about it, and "No Comment" was not going to fly. An alternative interpretation is that Hoke had to say something, and this was the best they could come up with that fit within the narrow parameters they had to work within.
|42 weeks 5 days ago||Completely unstubstantiated?||
He denied he was leaving the nfl for bama until he was on the Tarmac in tuscaloosa
|43 weeks 2 days ago||Canada is part of||
The North American continent
|44 weeks 6 days ago||Supposedly they were playing a big game,||
And were behind
|45 weeks 2 days ago||I really dislike this meme of||
"Hoke is a good ol' boy, affable but dumb"
|45 weeks 3 days ago||See hockey||
Iirc, Brandon indicated that he doesn't want to hire someone for head coach who doesn't have head coaching experience
|46 weeks 18 hours ago||See: Mallory interviewing for Eastern Illinois HC|
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Coaching is in his blood.||
Not unlike the Harbaugh brothers.
Mallory's dad was the head football coach at Miami of Ohio, University of Colorado, NIU and Indiana with a career record of 168-129-4.
BTW his brothers are also coaches. One is assisstant head coach/co-defensive coordinator at Indiana & the other coaches special teams for jacksonville.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah. The reason the grand total of 25 upperclassmen||
on the roster in 2013 didn't play up to your expectations was because they'd played too many years for Hoke.
As to recruiting falling off, at least it's a more balanced than 2010 & 2011 and has been filling in the gaping holes in the roster.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||Oh FFS. Math: use it.||
OP wants an average of 10+ wins over Carr's last 3 years + RR's 3 years + Hoke's 1st 3 years.
Carr and RR contribute 42 wins. To have an average of 10 wins (not even 10+), Hoke would have to have 48 wins. (9 years x 10 wins - carr's and RR's wins) That's an aveage of 16 wins per year. You don't play 16 games in a season in div 1, not even if you play in the MNC game.
What the OP wants is impossible. Instead of beseaching Dave Brandon for a better coach he needs to write letters to Santa.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||Start w not including rr's record||
RR doesn't coach UM any more. His record is historical and he's no longer contributing wins or losses
|48 weeks 4 days ago||That's 1 data point||
For 1 kid
|48 weeks 4 days ago||What proof do you have of this?||
The last big name recruit (hand?) stated that degree program was his reason for choosing al over um.
|48 weeks 4 days ago||How about gettting some perspective?||
#1, as Magnus has explained, Michigan's recruiting ranking this year is artifically low because UM has 16 recruits, and the average is based on 20.
#2, Just because you think all top recruits should want to attend UM, doesn't mean they feel the same. There are a lot of factors involved in deciding which school is right for a person. How about acknowledging that a recruit's criteria may not be the same as yours, and respecting their decision?
|48 weeks 6 days ago||Except that Gardner is already in grad school.||
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the way it worked was a player could only transfer to another school for his 5th year if that school offered a grad program that the current school didn't offer.
|51 weeks 6 hours ago||3 OCs in||
4 years according to the report.
|1 year 6 days ago||It's Hoke.||
It' probably in the 2, 3 part interview that Borges did with Heiko but I know I have read that it's Hoke who makes the call. IIRC, there's also something in there about the situations when Hoke puts on a headset.
|1 year 1 week ago||I'm not an engineer,||
but I certainly remember during space shuttle launches the "announcer" would say that the engines were at 103% (I may not be remembering the exact number, but I'm positive it was greater than 100%.) How could this be? The actual engines exceeded the design requirement.
|1 year 1 week ago||OK, so Brian wants Borges to do something different.||
In part because (paraphrasing) Borges is asking the Offense to do hard things. What would these non-hard things be. Do they even exist? An example of why I question this: Magnus in his UM-Nebaska recap points out that the final straw for him was when Schofield, a senior, couldn't properly execute a slide protection, which is evidently a high school-level protection.
Why is this relevant to me? Look. I'm not saying that Magnus & Space Coyote are right. They claim to be coaches, but nobody knows who you are on the internet, so maybe they aren't. But Brian isn't a coach, either. And looking at the FAQ for his bio, I don't see where he played organized football. So he appears to be self-taught. So yeah, he can do N years of UFRs and say X didn't work. But maybe there are some holes in what he's taught himself. So maybe his analysis - and conclusions - need to be taken with a grain of salt.
|1 year 1 week ago||Somebody else posted that excerpt recently.||
Bo's take away was all the new-fangeled stuff didn't work if you couldn't block & tackle - the fundamentals of football. So Bo stuck with what he was doing - good ol' blocking & tackling. "3 yards and a cloud of dust." Which is not a popular position on this board.
|1 year 1 week ago||so you've moved from||
Fire Hoke/Fire Borges to Fire Brandon?
|1 year 1 week ago||He also had the luxury of having an ex-DC||
On staff (as a QC guy).
|1 year 2 weeks ago||You might want to watch all of the game.||
And double check their record this year.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||So many people dwelling on the past...||
Hoke/Borges/Funk are not to blame for "We haven't won a Big 10 championship in a decade; MSU dominating 5 of 7; only beat OSU once when they were in a state of flux.'
It's fair to criticize them for 2011-now. But in that time they've gone 25-10. 3 winning seasons. 1-2 against MSU, 1-1 currently against OSU. 0-3 Big 10 championships.
I don't have the expertise to judge how good the coaching/play calling has been. Although it wouldn't seem that a .714 winning percentage warrants Fire [coach X]!.
As to the youth on the team, and is that a contributor to this season's record? Let's look at it another way. Recapping: only 25 upperclassmen on scholarship. Ideally shouldn't that be closer to 40-42? So isn't this comparable to losing 7, 8 scholarships for each of 2 years? Wouldn't one expect a team so sanctioned to see their record suffer? After all, the Penn State sanctions (no more than 15 scholarships per year, 2012-2015) were expected to have a crippling effect on the team, and for longer than 4 years.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Oh, I don't know about that.||
what I keep reading in various places is that (1) you want Oline to redshirt and (2) you don't want them to play before their 3rd year in a system.
So that sets a floor of 2.5 under your weighting scheme. (I could quibble and contend that fr year = 0.5 (don't have benefit of spring practice) & RS = 1, but that probably just shifts numbers a little and doesn't change gap.). And even though the average is continuous, age/experience is a step function (ie RS So is 2.5, JR is 3). So 0.5 is meaningful (this is also why I'd contend that .5 for Fr year and 1 for RS works better.)
Only 7 teams in your data set have a score of <3.0. I note that Aubrun was pathetic last year, so can understand some of why they went with youth this year. LSU is having an off year for them; oh, their oline is young! The one team that I find especially interesting is Wisconsin. Their average is 2.9. As has been said before, they seem to do more with less than other Big 10 teams. However, this may have something to do with the stability at the program. Isn't it about 20 years with Alvaraez as either coach or AD? They've had the same identity, same scheme despite some coaching changes. Unlike some other programs.
I think the next step would be to add a recruiting rankings component to the scoring. As several people have pointed out, UM has had to rely on walk-ons to a much greater extent than usual for them.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||How about comparing UM's Oline against the Olines||
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Per Grantland,||
Harbaugh's salary with SF is $5M per year.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Lloyd Carr won a national championship, too.||
But that isn't enough for board members to quit their bitching about his "mediocre' 3, 4 loss seasons.
So what changed Saban from a mediocre coach just like Carr at LSU to a winner! at Alabama? The water? Or is it that board members are cherry picking data points to create some imaginary coach who'll be be savior of Michigan when Brandon sees sense and fires that dufus Hoke.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||What he did at LSU:||
8-4; 10-3; 8-5; 13-1; 9-3.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Slight difference -||
he said that about full-time professionals who were getting paid. Hoke's team is part-time student athletes.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Proof, please.||
"He has a short resume and there were no coaching changes as the result of bad performance." Proof, please, as someone in another thread is under the impression that Hoke did make some changes with his staff while at Ball State. If you're going to start your own thread, let's see some evidence to support your claim.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Why does 8-4 = fire?||
8-4 is still better than RR's BEST year. And it would be Hoke's worst year, as compared to RR's worst year of 3-9. And Hoke's projected worst year is with 1 SR, 2 JR, 3 Soph, and 10 Freshman on the Oline. Ouch! (http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/lets-look-michigans-ol-recruiting-09-11-and-...). Most of his losses this year are to Oline's that have almost a full year's age advantage on Michigan: an additional year of S&C, an additional year of coaching technique and theory, and extra year of practice. Oh, and UM's defense has a simlar lack of upperclassmen. The team should have reached bottom, experience-wise this year, and should only get better starting next year.
RR was 0-3 against MSU and Ohio State.
Hoke is 1-2 against MSU and currently 1-1 (1-2 assuming 8-4) against Ohio State.
Hoke's team is bowl eligible his 3 years, RR was only bowl eligible once.
Hoke is 1-1 in bowls, RR was 0-1.
Hoke is recruiting much better, and he's recruiting a complete team.
Oh, and for those that think Les Miles is Michigan's savior; be careful what you wish for. He drives LSU fans crazy with his periodic brain farts when it comes to clock management, and there's always one or two big 'what was he thinking' coaching moments during a season. Since the board seems to find this a firable offence in Hoke, I don't know why you'd want to hire another coach who has this same fatal flaw....
|1 year 3 weeks ago||What a sorry piece of work you are.||
This was a physical game. Did you bother to notice what Michigan's jerseys looked like at the end of the game? How many times was Gardner sacked - 9 I think. How much additional contact did MSU make with him.
And yet you, from your couch or your seat in the stands says <b>Gardner is utterly worthless as a quarterback, period. He even wimped out and went down instead of taking a hit for a first down late in the 4th quarter. Then he comes up with what appeared to be a wimp-out invisible contact injury after throwing that last interception. He just didn't want to play any more! What a gutless wonder!</b>
How about you try taking those hits. Then let's see who the "gutless wonder" is.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||"This is nothing like what Rodriguez did||
on offense because there was no offense in which Stephen Threet, Nick Sheridan, seven scholarship OL, and a parade of freshmen at wide receiver would be effective."
That is correct.
RR's record in his 3 years at UM was 15-22.
In less than 2.5 years, BH's/AB's record is 24-8. If UM loses the rest of it's games this that will be 24-14.
But go on saying that Hoke/Borges is worse than RR. Coaches aren't the only ones with lizard brains.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Honestly.||
Did you read what you wrote? "The responsibility for the raw talent, size, strenght and development of the players we have on the interior O-line falls entirely on this staff."
- Toussaint, Gallon, Lewan & Schofield are seniors. This is their 3rd year under Hoke.
- Funchess, Norfleet, Bryant, Miller & Glasgow are sophomores. This is their 2nd year under Hoke. 2nd year working with Wellman on strength.
Seth had a diary on When the Oline will be ready: http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-when-will-o-line-be-ready. His answer? 3rd/4th year. Only 7 players in the last 20 years were ready in their 2nd year.
Maybe, just maybe a big piece of what we're seeing is the growing pains of an offense that by necessity (there are only 25 upper classmen on the depth chart) is a year or 2 younger than optimal. Hence inconsistency, mistakes, lesser strength, etc.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Let's not go there.||
'because the young kids feel they don't have to prepare the same as for Ohio State." Let's not go there.
Instead, let's look at the depth chart by class (found under useful stuff) and re-read Seth's diary on when the O-line will be ready. http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-when-will-o-line-be-ready
Let's also remember: These kids have spring & fall ball and 20 countable hours during the season of coaching. They aren't working 40+ hours a week like the pros. Oh, and they also have stuff like school in there.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Considering that the Ohio River forms at Pittsburgh||
and runs past Cinncinnati, the Paddlewheel trophy would seem to be a reminder of the river boat traffic that was an important part of both cities history.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||that's just one example.||
As has been shared on the boad numerous times since Hoke was hired, there are numerous examples of Ohio State using the "Ohio" terminology.
1st & foremost is script Ohio, not script Ohio State. The scoreboatds that read Ohio, not Ohio State, etc.
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Alabama's near the top of his list in part due to||
engineering? Really? Auburn is the the engineering school in AL.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||Faulty analysis.||
How on earth can one compare the ranking of Saban's recruiting classes to Shula's? Mike Shula was stuck being Alabama's coach when they had just been hit with with the loss of 21 scholarships over 3 years. Class size is an important component of class ranking. And that's not even considering oversigning...
|1 year 33 weeks ago||Rice was fired for not being Bobby Knight?||
'Cause this seems to have been SOP for Knight.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||It's not as bad as||
Iowa corn's CyHawk trophy.
It's just boring & uninspired. Which can be a good thing.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||I think you will find||
that "so many jobs" is the norm, not the exception, in college football.
From the Michigan Daily article on Fred Jackson: "After leaving Madison, Jackson bounced from Navy to South Carolina to Purdue to Vanderbilt." http://www.michigandaily.com/sports/coach-j-and-co?page=0,0
|2 years 4 weeks ago||Good thing||
you didn't see her fishing shanty issue.
|2 years 11 weeks ago||Putting it in perspective:||
Al Borges, who does not utilize Denard to his full potential, called a game wherein Michigan scored as many points against the #2 team in the country as the Rich Rodriguez-led team , who utilized Denard better, scored against the #15/#17 team in the country (2011 Gator Bowl).
|2 years 11 weeks ago||You want to win a MNC?||
You just found out how far you have to go.
|2 years 12 weeks ago||They got rid of the team.||
No longer varsity sport. May exist as a club sport, but the varsity program was eliminated as a cost saving measure.
|2 years 15 weeks ago||No, because HS football isn't good enough here.||
Hartselle or metro Birmingham would be better choices.
|2 years 26 weeks ago||Alabama's loss can be considered artificial.||
They included the bonuses paid to the coaches for winning a National Championship/Bowl Game as Sugar Bowl expenses.
I think that's a stretch.
|2 years 29 weeks ago||Just like||
they wouldn't come up with "Leaders" and "Legends" ?
|2 years 32 weeks ago||Not so much maybe.||
SB Nation is reporting that Petrino was fired because he wouldn't agree to penalties that the school was going to impose.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Throw out those modern hybrids.||
Try something like Golden Bantam, introduced c. 1902.
|2 years 39 weeks ago||LSU, IIRC||
|2 years 39 weeks ago||Ohio State thinks "Family Resource Management"||
sounds more impressive than "General Studies?" And they think it will impress the families of recuits?
Really? Because when I read "Family Resource Management" my 1st thought was - football players are majoring in Home Ec?
|2 years 43 weeks ago||Same as the Steeler's Mike Tomlin.||
2006: Vikings DC
2007: Steelers HC
2008: Won Super Bowl
|2 years 43 weeks ago||Rankings aren't the only measure of a recruit.||
For example, the Tat 5 had an average Rivals ranking of 4.6 stars.
How different would Ohio's season have been if those 4.6 stars had not been instrumental in Tressel being replaced with Fickel?
|2 years 50 weeks ago||For the exact quote,||
check Heiko's transcript of Monday's press conference . The Detroit News refers to a comment Hoke made re BCS, but does not provide an exact quote.
|3 years 2 weeks ago||Vernor's used to, before||
it went national. Now it has about as much oomph as cream soda.
|3 years 3 weeks ago||Well,||
I'm just a casual follower of Michigan football. But I sure remember Rodriguez being quoted as saying (sorry, memory here, so forgive me if this isn't word-for-word) Lombardi couldn't win with this defense.
I haven't come across any quotes like that from Hoke, Mattison, or Borges.
And compare Rodriguez's tired of stuff not getting through to the players, having to do/say x,y,z over and over vs. Hoke's (was it in 98?) assuming that the defense was fine after the 97(?) season, they lost how many games at the start? Hoke blaming himself for the loss to Syracuse (right team?) because he didn't go back to fundamentals: how to tackle, etc, with those returning defensemen and he's NEVER done that again; it's always start with the basics.
|3 years 8 weeks ago||Wow. Look at the mother's reaction.||
Basically everyone does it; what's the big deal.
|3 years 12 weeks ago||Would those be Domino's wings?||
|3 years 12 weeks ago||Something omitted from your analysis.||
Well, 2 things I guess.
(1) How much harder will this make getting into the national championship game, which pretty much requires an undefeated season. To the best of my recollection, most of the teams that make it there have their fair share of soft opponents.
(2) You haven't discussed the value of these teams as the equivalent of NFL exhibition games. Michigan has what? 1 month of spring camp, 1 month of fall camp, about 3 months of regular season, and 2 weeks of bowl practice/bowl game. That's a grand total of 5.5 months of practice/playing time. And the allowable hours during the season are 20 per week, IIRC. And fall camp comes off of a break of ~3 months.
So: ~3 month break, 1 month of fall camp: is the team ready to face Georgia, or do they need to ramp up to that level by playing the EMUs and WMUs first?
|3 years 14 weeks ago||I think it's still Ohio.||
The articles don't state which spring break, but it seems to be 2011 Spring break. And it's Sarniak providing improper benefits to Pryor while he was still on Ohio State's roster.
|3 years 14 weeks ago||Real easy.||
Send your decline due to a previous engagement along with a really, really nice wedding present. Bonus: you save her the cost of two meals at the reception.
|3 years 17 weeks ago||Oh for pete's sakes.||
Brian threw a temper tantrum for several months after the Hoke hire. It's only in the last couple of monthsthat he seems to be warming up to the Hoke hire some.
If he wants to reserve final judgement until after the season, fine. But his schtick re Hoke is more than a little old.
|3 years 17 weeks ago||See "There are..." posts||
|3 years 19 weeks ago||Wonder if Nebraska would be a good analog.||
In 2007 they gave up an avg. of 37 ppg, including the embarassing 76 to Kansas. Tom Osborne fires Callahan. Brings in Bo Pelini, defensive background, to be head coach. Nebraska's defense improves 31 positions.
|3 years 23 weeks ago||Michigan was recruting Pryor, too.||
So is Michigan also guilty be association?
|3 years 24 weeks ago||The width of the stripes||
Makes all the difference. And I seriously doubt that any of those stripes were highlighter yellow.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||Flame away, but coaching change may play a part in this.||
DUI #1 happened while RR was coach. DUI #2 after Hoke became coach. But from what I have read, after DUI #1 and while RR was still coach, Stonum missed required meetings that were terms of his probation.
From what we have heard of Hoke's discipline re classroom attendance, if Stonum had missed a mandatory meeting he'd be at least pushing a plate at 4 AM the next morning. And I suspect that he wouldn't have been given an opportunity to miss another probation meeting.
Why was Stonum able to miss several mandatory meetings re his probation while RR was coach?
I'm guessing here, but it could be that Hoke believes with proper discipline Stonum would never have had DUI #2, and so is willing to give Stonum a chance.
That said, the kid is facing jail time, so being suspended/kicked of fthe team is the least of his worries.
|3 years 26 weeks ago||I really think||
that not enough focus is put on Bill Martin's & Mary Sue Coleman's roles in the last 3 years. After all, they hired RR.
You're the head of Michigan & its athletic department. You know what Michigan football's history is. There's dissatisfaction among the fan base due to a mediocre (by Michigan standards) record the last few years.
So you're interviewing possible head coaches, and a leading candidate is spread-only offense. You look at his last job and he took over a team that was mediocre the last few years, but was 7-5 before the switch, and he goes 3-8, 1-6 in conference, his first year. Umm. Are the results of this spread only, have to blow up the offense to save it approach something you're willing to endure at Michigan? And yes, WVU only endured one year of this pain before they had a very solid 9-4. But that was against the Big East, which is not as strong and not as deep as the Big 10. So, do you, the AD and President, consider that with stronger opponents that there's risk that it will take more than 1 year to revert to normal? And is that something that Michigan and its fan base are willing to put up with?
After all, go back to the Bump Elliot era. He was fired after going 8-2 his last year (granted there were a lot of sub par years preceeding this, but still) because he wasn't getting the job done. Michigan has high expectations; is this coaching candidate's approach compatible with Michigan's history and expectations?
|3 years 30 weeks ago||So DB||
is the one who went 15-22. Neat trick, especially since he wasn't the AD in 2008 & 2009.
|3 years 31 weeks ago||Have you ever heard odf the Army?||
They shout Hoo-ah all the time. In basic, when they are running they have their running songs. This is no different.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||The "Vince Lomardi couldn't"||
coach/win with this defense" comment.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Critical thinking...||
or baseless speculation?