that makes one of us
|13 hours 44 min ago||re "college potential"||
Ted Spencer, UM's admissions director, had the following to say in the recent SI article on Hoke:
"“He is looking for kids who will both academically be successful and whose character is strong enough to participate in Big Ten sports and represent the university very well,” Spencer says. “I’m very pleased with the kind of young men he is bringing to us. I give him an A-plus in that area."
|1 week 3 days ago||Seth wrote a Hokepoints addressing when||
the Oline might be good. http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-when-will-o-line-be-ready
The first chart, examining almost 20 years of Michigan history, indicates that Oline players have been mostly backups in their 2nd and 3rd years. It takes 4/5years for them to be solid or better.
This years Oline, except for Miller, Glasgow, and Byrzinski, is all 3rd year or less.
Based on this, it appears unresonable to expect Funk to accomplish in 2/3 years what it took other Michigan Oline coaches 4/5 years to accomplish.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm pretty sure||
the coach in the dorm story was Miles.
|3 weeks 8 hours ago||It's availability, too||
App state moved from div 1-a to div 1. When you change divisions you have a lot of openings as it takes some time to be incorporated into your new opponents schedules.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||How do you "know"||
that Hoke doesn't like to redshirt? With the attrition that the program has experienced in the 2011 and prior classes and the resultant dearth of upperclassmen (somthing like only 25 juniors and seniors last year,), the program hasn't been in a position to afford redshirts, a fact which you admit ("I am on record I want almost all of our freshmen to redshirt <b>when we finally have our numbers up</>." [emphasis added])
|9 weeks 4 days ago||I really think||
you should at least removeve those recruits who never made it to campus. I saw Demar Dorsey & stopped reading because you can't develop a player who never was on the team.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Tiger Woods||
The networks want tiger woods in tournaments. It makes a big difference in ratings if he's not playing
|12 weeks 12 hours ago||Going forward||
Should be a tshirt.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Alabama fans||
grumbled plenty about him this year. The AD is probably saner than the fans, as there is definitely a vocal group of the "what have you done for me lately" variety.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||That's news to||
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Aren't um athletes required||
To give compliance access to their bank records?
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Slippery slope||
That's a slippery slope
|16 weeks 6 days ago||But don't you think||
That the recent depth issues (see Brian's & Seth's articles from yesterday) contribute to the lack of a "real" spring game?
|17 weeks 2 days ago||That's what I get for using Wikipedia for a source.||
I see now what my issue was with 2013 UCONN: record split over 2 coaches. I'll trust you on App State.
And thank you for making my point stronger.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||Your prediction would be stronger if your facts weren't suspect||
2013 UCONN: FBS. 8-3
2013 Utah: FBS. 5-7.
2013 App State. FCS. 8-3
2005-2007 App State was the 3 time Div 1 FCS National Champ
|17 weeks 2 days ago||But the salary is also a statement in the football arms race.||
I get that many fans think Hoke is the wrong choice,and based on his won-loss record should not have been hired. (For the record,I think W-L is only one criteria to consider,and may not be the most important criteria. See Rodriguez, R.)
But you have a new AD, an incumbent coach who is not meeting expectations, and decide you need to replace said coach. Oh, and let's remember how many coaches passed on Michigan in 2008.
As AD you believe the Michigan head coach is one of the premier jobs in CFB. But the salary is not comensurate with that position. So you pay your new coach, and your coordinators, what the other top programs are paying.
Which may be part of the reason Michigan was able to hire Alabama's offensive coordinator this off season. And if you should need to hire a new head coach after the 2014 season, wouldn't you expect to be able to attract more of the top names in coaching?
|17 weeks 2 days ago||Brian, you may not like how things turned out,||
but that doesn't mean DB was on the losing end of the deals.
For example, the sanctions thing. I'd contend that accepting responsibility and not shirking your punishement is an example of "the Michigan diference." See UM re the basketball violations. Or do you really want Michigan to be more like Ohio State, with all that that means?
The Borges raise: timing is everything. Borges got that raise after Michigan went 11-2 and won the Sugar Bowl.
Notre Dame: Like DB was going to be able to change ND's mind. And since football schedules are set so far in advance, he didn't have much to choose from.On paper, it's fine: ND replaced by a team from the strongest conference.
The only thing from your list that to me is inarguably a loss is the Ohio State/MSU scheduling. But I don't agree that UM/Ohio State in different divisions and the protected crossover is bad. Put the 2 historically strongest programs in opposite divisions to set up frequent UM/OSU playing for the title. The script writes itself for TV.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||Or that something could be||
that the Spring evaluation period recently started.
|18 weeks 2 hours ago||How dare||
How dare a coach with what, around 120 assisstants and players, delegate.
|18 weeks 1 day ago||Some long needed perspective.||
The "It's impossible for the Oline to be better" crowd seems to have forgotten how much the D improved from RR's last year to BH's first year.
Caveats do apply: Oline is evidently more challenging to master, requires a longer apprenticeship, if you will. Seth or The Mathlete's analysis (I've forgotten who did it) shows that some Oline players reach the desired performance level in year 3, while others do in year 4.
|20 weeks 1 hour ago||I've taken this several times||
and it always puts me in different parts of the country. I need a pasty question for it to figure it out.
|28 weeks 5 hours ago||Frequency is the difference||
Chicago gets snow every winter. They either have the equipment to deal with it or nobody goes anywhere for what, 3 months?
Snow is such an infrequent occurance down south, more of a once every few years event (even if we've had more than one storm this year) that it isn't economical to invest in much snow equipment. Plus, after a couple of days the weather returns to normal and the snow melts.
I moved down here from western PA 25 yeas ago. Maybe 5-7 snow events in N AL in that time? The worst was it stayed below freezing for about a week before the sun took care of it. And yes, I'm out of practice driving in the stuff, and no my car's not equipped for it. so like the locals I stay off the roads. Besides, the local response to precipitation (snow and rain) is drive faster!
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Is your issue that the AA police didn't investigate?||
Because the source of much of the info posted on this board the last couple of days is the police report.
Or don't you believe that a University should have a Code of Student Conduct and hold students accountable to it?
|29 weeks 6 days ago||It is generally considered a good thing if all student conduct||
is handled by the same university office. Problems arise when athletes' conduct is handled by on office under the AD.
|29 weeks 6 days ago||new info?||
"Our current process allows that, if new information is obtained at a later point, the university could commence an investigation at that time."
This could be what happened.
|30 weeks 6 hours ago||Oh, so that's the problem||
With the lions. And all these years I thought it was the fords.
|30 weeks 1 day ago||Actually, as several posters have pointed out,||
FERPA prevents the University from saying anything about Gibbon's educational status. You'll note in the Daily article that both the AD's office and a University spokesman when asked to comment said they couldn't say anything about it.
So Hoke can't say anything about it, and "No Comment" was not going to fly. An alternative interpretation is that Hoke had to say something, and this was the best they could come up with that fit within the narrow parameters they had to work within.
|30 weeks 1 day ago||Completely unstubstantiated?||
He denied he was leaving the nfl for bama until he was on the Tarmac in tuscaloosa
|30 weeks 5 days ago||Canada is part of||
The North American continent
|32 weeks 2 days ago||Supposedly they were playing a big game,||
And were behind
|32 weeks 5 days ago||I really dislike this meme of||
"Hoke is a good ol' boy, affable but dumb"
|32 weeks 6 days ago||See hockey||
Iirc, Brandon indicated that he doesn't want to hire someone for head coach who doesn't have head coaching experience
|33 weeks 3 days ago||See: Mallory interviewing for Eastern Illinois HC|
|33 weeks 6 days ago||Coaching is in his blood.||
Not unlike the Harbaugh brothers.
Mallory's dad was the head football coach at Miami of Ohio, University of Colorado, NIU and Indiana with a career record of 168-129-4.
BTW his brothers are also coaches. One is assisstant head coach/co-defensive coordinator at Indiana & the other coaches special teams for jacksonville.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah. The reason the grand total of 25 upperclassmen||
on the roster in 2013 didn't play up to your expectations was because they'd played too many years for Hoke.
As to recruiting falling off, at least it's a more balanced than 2010 & 2011 and has been filling in the gaping holes in the roster.
|34 weeks 1 day ago||Oh FFS. Math: use it.||
OP wants an average of 10+ wins over Carr's last 3 years + RR's 3 years + Hoke's 1st 3 years.
Carr and RR contribute 42 wins. To have an average of 10 wins (not even 10+), Hoke would have to have 48 wins. (9 years x 10 wins - carr's and RR's wins) That's an aveage of 16 wins per year. You don't play 16 games in a season in div 1, not even if you play in the MNC game.
What the OP wants is impossible. Instead of beseaching Dave Brandon for a better coach he needs to write letters to Santa.
|34 weeks 1 day ago||Start w not including rr's record||
RR doesn't coach UM any more. His record is historical and he's no longer contributing wins or losses
|36 weeks 12 hours ago||That's 1 data point||
For 1 kid
|36 weeks 14 hours ago||What proof do you have of this?||
The last big name recruit (hand?) stated that degree program was his reason for choosing al over um.
|36 weeks 14 hours ago||How about gettting some perspective?||
#1, as Magnus has explained, Michigan's recruiting ranking this year is artifically low because UM has 16 recruits, and the average is based on 20.
#2, Just because you think all top recruits should want to attend UM, doesn't mean they feel the same. There are a lot of factors involved in deciding which school is right for a person. How about acknowledging that a recruit's criteria may not be the same as yours, and respecting their decision?
|36 weeks 2 days ago||Except that Gardner is already in grad school.||
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the way it worked was a player could only transfer to another school for his 5th year if that school offered a grad program that the current school didn't offer.
|38 weeks 3 days ago||3 OCs in||
4 years according to the report.
|40 weeks 3 days ago||It's Hoke.||
It' probably in the 2, 3 part interview that Borges did with Heiko but I know I have read that it's Hoke who makes the call. IIRC, there's also something in there about the situations when Hoke puts on a headset.
|41 weeks 1 hour ago||I'm not an engineer,||
but I certainly remember during space shuttle launches the "announcer" would say that the engines were at 103% (I may not be remembering the exact number, but I'm positive it was greater than 100%.) How could this be? The actual engines exceeded the design requirement.
|41 weeks 6 hours ago||OK, so Brian wants Borges to do something different.||
In part because (paraphrasing) Borges is asking the Offense to do hard things. What would these non-hard things be. Do they even exist? An example of why I question this: Magnus in his UM-Nebaska recap points out that the final straw for him was when Schofield, a senior, couldn't properly execute a slide protection, which is evidently a high school-level protection.
Why is this relevant to me? Look. I'm not saying that Magnus & Space Coyote are right. They claim to be coaches, but nobody knows who you are on the internet, so maybe they aren't. But Brian isn't a coach, either. And looking at the FAQ for his bio, I don't see where he played organized football. So he appears to be self-taught. So yeah, he can do N years of UFRs and say X didn't work. But maybe there are some holes in what he's taught himself. So maybe his analysis - and conclusions - need to be taken with a grain of salt.
|41 weeks 9 hours ago||Somebody else posted that excerpt recently.||
Bo's take away was all the new-fangeled stuff didn't work if you couldn't block & tackle - the fundamentals of football. So Bo stuck with what he was doing - good ol' blocking & tackling. "3 yards and a cloud of dust." Which is not a popular position on this board.
|41 weeks 13 hours ago||so you've moved from||
Fire Hoke/Fire Borges to Fire Brandon?
|41 weeks 1 day ago||He also had the luxury of having an ex-DC||
On staff (as a QC guy).
|41 weeks 3 days ago||You might want to watch all of the game.||
And double check their record this year.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||So many people dwelling on the past...||
Hoke/Borges/Funk are not to blame for "We haven't won a Big 10 championship in a decade; MSU dominating 5 of 7; only beat OSU once when they were in a state of flux.'
It's fair to criticize them for 2011-now. But in that time they've gone 25-10. 3 winning seasons. 1-2 against MSU, 1-1 currently against OSU. 0-3 Big 10 championships.
I don't have the expertise to judge how good the coaching/play calling has been. Although it wouldn't seem that a .714 winning percentage warrants Fire [coach X]!.
As to the youth on the team, and is that a contributor to this season's record? Let's look at it another way. Recapping: only 25 upperclassmen on scholarship. Ideally shouldn't that be closer to 40-42? So isn't this comparable to losing 7, 8 scholarships for each of 2 years? Wouldn't one expect a team so sanctioned to see their record suffer? After all, the Penn State sanctions (no more than 15 scholarships per year, 2012-2015) were expected to have a crippling effect on the team, and for longer than 4 years.
|42 weeks 15 hours ago||Oh, I don't know about that.||
what I keep reading in various places is that (1) you want Oline to redshirt and (2) you don't want them to play before their 3rd year in a system.
So that sets a floor of 2.5 under your weighting scheme. (I could quibble and contend that fr year = 0.5 (don't have benefit of spring practice) & RS = 1, but that probably just shifts numbers a little and doesn't change gap.). And even though the average is continuous, age/experience is a step function (ie RS So is 2.5, JR is 3). So 0.5 is meaningful (this is also why I'd contend that .5 for Fr year and 1 for RS works better.)
Only 7 teams in your data set have a score of <3.0. I note that Aubrun was pathetic last year, so can understand some of why they went with youth this year. LSU is having an off year for them; oh, their oline is young! The one team that I find especially interesting is Wisconsin. Their average is 2.9. As has been said before, they seem to do more with less than other Big 10 teams. However, this may have something to do with the stability at the program. Isn't it about 20 years with Alvaraez as either coach or AD? They've had the same identity, same scheme despite some coaching changes. Unlike some other programs.
I think the next step would be to add a recruiting rankings component to the scoring. As several people have pointed out, UM has had to rely on walk-ons to a much greater extent than usual for them.
|42 weeks 1 day ago||How about comparing UM's Oline against the Olines||
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Per Grantland,||
Harbaugh's salary with SF is $5M per year.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Lloyd Carr won a national championship, too.||
But that isn't enough for board members to quit their bitching about his "mediocre' 3, 4 loss seasons.
So what changed Saban from a mediocre coach just like Carr at LSU to a winner! at Alabama? The water? Or is it that board members are cherry picking data points to create some imaginary coach who'll be be savior of Michigan when Brandon sees sense and fires that dufus Hoke.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||What he did at LSU:||
8-4; 10-3; 8-5; 13-1; 9-3.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Slight difference -||
he said that about full-time professionals who were getting paid. Hoke's team is part-time student athletes.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Proof, please.||
"He has a short resume and there were no coaching changes as the result of bad performance." Proof, please, as someone in another thread is under the impression that Hoke did make some changes with his staff while at Ball State. If you're going to start your own thread, let's see some evidence to support your claim.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Why does 8-4 = fire?||
8-4 is still better than RR's BEST year. And it would be Hoke's worst year, as compared to RR's worst year of 3-9. And Hoke's projected worst year is with 1 SR, 2 JR, 3 Soph, and 10 Freshman on the Oline. Ouch! (http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/lets-look-michigans-ol-recruiting-09-11-and-...). Most of his losses this year are to Oline's that have almost a full year's age advantage on Michigan: an additional year of S&C, an additional year of coaching technique and theory, and extra year of practice. Oh, and UM's defense has a simlar lack of upperclassmen. The team should have reached bottom, experience-wise this year, and should only get better starting next year.
RR was 0-3 against MSU and Ohio State.
Hoke is 1-2 against MSU and currently 1-1 (1-2 assuming 8-4) against Ohio State.
Hoke's team is bowl eligible his 3 years, RR was only bowl eligible once.
Hoke is 1-1 in bowls, RR was 0-1.
Hoke is recruiting much better, and he's recruiting a complete team.
Oh, and for those that think Les Miles is Michigan's savior; be careful what you wish for. He drives LSU fans crazy with his periodic brain farts when it comes to clock management, and there's always one or two big 'what was he thinking' coaching moments during a season. Since the board seems to find this a firable offence in Hoke, I don't know why you'd want to hire another coach who has this same fatal flaw....
|42 weeks 4 days ago||What a sorry piece of work you are.||
This was a physical game. Did you bother to notice what Michigan's jerseys looked like at the end of the game? How many times was Gardner sacked - 9 I think. How much additional contact did MSU make with him.
And yet you, from your couch or your seat in the stands says <b>Gardner is utterly worthless as a quarterback, period. He even wimped out and went down instead of taking a hit for a first down late in the 4th quarter. Then he comes up with what appeared to be a wimp-out invisible contact injury after throwing that last interception. He just didn't want to play any more! What a gutless wonder!</b>
How about you try taking those hits. Then let's see who the "gutless wonder" is.
|45 weeks 2 days ago||"This is nothing like what Rodriguez did||
on offense because there was no offense in which Stephen Threet, Nick Sheridan, seven scholarship OL, and a parade of freshmen at wide receiver would be effective."
That is correct.
RR's record in his 3 years at UM was 15-22.
In less than 2.5 years, BH's/AB's record is 24-8. If UM loses the rest of it's games this that will be 24-14.
But go on saying that Hoke/Borges is worse than RR. Coaches aren't the only ones with lizard brains.
|45 weeks 2 days ago||Honestly.||
Did you read what you wrote? "The responsibility for the raw talent, size, strenght and development of the players we have on the interior O-line falls entirely on this staff."
- Toussaint, Gallon, Lewan & Schofield are seniors. This is their 3rd year under Hoke.
- Funchess, Norfleet, Bryant, Miller & Glasgow are sophomores. This is their 2nd year under Hoke. 2nd year working with Wellman on strength.
Seth had a diary on When the Oline will be ready: http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-when-will-o-line-be-ready. His answer? 3rd/4th year. Only 7 players in the last 20 years were ready in their 2nd year.
Maybe, just maybe a big piece of what we're seeing is the growing pains of an offense that by necessity (there are only 25 upper classmen on the depth chart) is a year or 2 younger than optimal. Hence inconsistency, mistakes, lesser strength, etc.
|46 weeks 2 days ago||Let's not go there.||
'because the young kids feel they don't have to prepare the same as for Ohio State." Let's not go there.
Instead, let's look at the depth chart by class (found under useful stuff) and re-read Seth's diary on when the O-line will be ready. http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-when-will-o-line-be-ready
Let's also remember: These kids have spring & fall ball and 20 countable hours during the season of coaching. They aren't working 40+ hours a week like the pros. Oh, and they also have stuff like school in there.
|47 weeks 5 hours ago||Considering that the Ohio River forms at Pittsburgh||
and runs past Cinncinnati, the Paddlewheel trophy would seem to be a reminder of the river boat traffic that was an important part of both cities history.
|1 year 3 days ago||that's just one example.||
As has been shared on the boad numerous times since Hoke was hired, there are numerous examples of Ohio State using the "Ohio" terminology.
1st & foremost is script Ohio, not script Ohio State. The scoreboatds that read Ohio, not Ohio State, etc.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Alabama's near the top of his list in part due to||
engineering? Really? Auburn is the the engineering school in AL.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Faulty analysis.||
How on earth can one compare the ranking of Saban's recruiting classes to Shula's? Mike Shula was stuck being Alabama's coach when they had just been hit with with the loss of 21 scholarships over 3 years. Class size is an important component of class ranking. And that's not even considering oversigning...
|1 year 20 weeks ago||Rice was fired for not being Bobby Knight?||
'Cause this seems to have been SOP for Knight.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||It's not as bad as||
Iowa corn's CyHawk trophy.
It's just boring & uninspired. Which can be a good thing.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||I think you will find||
that "so many jobs" is the norm, not the exception, in college football.
From the Michigan Daily article on Fred Jackson: "After leaving Madison, Jackson bounced from Navy to South Carolina to Purdue to Vanderbilt." http://www.michigandaily.com/sports/coach-j-and-co?page=0,0
|1 year 43 weeks ago||Good thing||
you didn't see her fishing shanty issue.
|1 year 50 weeks ago||Putting it in perspective:||
Al Borges, who does not utilize Denard to his full potential, called a game wherein Michigan scored as many points against the #2 team in the country as the Rich Rodriguez-led team , who utilized Denard better, scored against the #15/#17 team in the country (2011 Gator Bowl).
|1 year 51 weeks ago||You want to win a MNC?||
You just found out how far you have to go.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||They got rid of the team.||
No longer varsity sport. May exist as a club sport, but the varsity program was eliminated as a cost saving measure.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||No, because HS football isn't good enough here.||
Hartselle or metro Birmingham would be better choices.
|2 years 13 weeks ago||Alabama's loss can be considered artificial.||
They included the bonuses paid to the coaches for winning a National Championship/Bowl Game as Sugar Bowl expenses.
I think that's a stretch.
|2 years 17 weeks ago||Just like||
they wouldn't come up with "Leaders" and "Legends" ?
|2 years 19 weeks ago||Not so much maybe.||
SB Nation is reporting that Petrino was fired because he wouldn't agree to penalties that the school was going to impose.
|2 years 24 weeks ago||Throw out those modern hybrids.||
Try something like Golden Bantam, introduced c. 1902.
|2 years 26 weeks ago||LSU, IIRC||
|2 years 26 weeks ago||Ohio State thinks "Family Resource Management"||
sounds more impressive than "General Studies?" And they think it will impress the families of recuits?
Really? Because when I read "Family Resource Management" my 1st thought was - football players are majoring in Home Ec?
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Same as the Steeler's Mike Tomlin.||
2006: Vikings DC
2007: Steelers HC
2008: Won Super Bowl
|2 years 31 weeks ago||Rankings aren't the only measure of a recruit.||
For example, the Tat 5 had an average Rivals ranking of 4.6 stars.
How different would Ohio's season have been if those 4.6 stars had not been instrumental in Tressel being replaced with Fickel?
|2 years 38 weeks ago||For the exact quote,||
check Heiko's transcript of Monday's press conference . The Detroit News refers to a comment Hoke made re BCS, but does not provide an exact quote.
|2 years 42 weeks ago||Vernor's used to, before||
it went national. Now it has about as much oomph as cream soda.
|2 years 43 weeks ago||Well,||
I'm just a casual follower of Michigan football. But I sure remember Rodriguez being quoted as saying (sorry, memory here, so forgive me if this isn't word-for-word) Lombardi couldn't win with this defense.
I haven't come across any quotes like that from Hoke, Mattison, or Borges.
And compare Rodriguez's tired of stuff not getting through to the players, having to do/say x,y,z over and over vs. Hoke's (was it in 98?) assuming that the defense was fine after the 97(?) season, they lost how many games at the start? Hoke blaming himself for the loss to Syracuse (right team?) because he didn't go back to fundamentals: how to tackle, etc, with those returning defensemen and he's NEVER done that again; it's always start with the basics.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||Wow. Look at the mother's reaction.||
Basically everyone does it; what's the big deal.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||Would those be Domino's wings?||
|2 years 51 weeks ago||Something omitted from your analysis.||
Well, 2 things I guess.
(1) How much harder will this make getting into the national championship game, which pretty much requires an undefeated season. To the best of my recollection, most of the teams that make it there have their fair share of soft opponents.
(2) You haven't discussed the value of these teams as the equivalent of NFL exhibition games. Michigan has what? 1 month of spring camp, 1 month of fall camp, about 3 months of regular season, and 2 weeks of bowl practice/bowl game. That's a grand total of 5.5 months of practice/playing time. And the allowable hours during the season are 20 per week, IIRC. And fall camp comes off of a break of ~3 months.
So: ~3 month break, 1 month of fall camp: is the team ready to face Georgia, or do they need to ramp up to that level by playing the EMUs and WMUs first?
|3 years 1 week ago||I think it's still Ohio.||
The articles don't state which spring break, but it seems to be 2011 Spring break. And it's Sarniak providing improper benefits to Pryor while he was still on Ohio State's roster.
|3 years 1 week ago||Real easy.||
Send your decline due to a previous engagement along with a really, really nice wedding present. Bonus: you save her the cost of two meals at the reception.
|3 years 4 weeks ago||Oh for pete's sakes.||
Brian threw a temper tantrum for several months after the Hoke hire. It's only in the last couple of monthsthat he seems to be warming up to the Hoke hire some.
If he wants to reserve final judgement until after the season, fine. But his schtick re Hoke is more than a little old.
|3 years 4 weeks ago||See "There are..." posts||
|3 years 6 weeks ago||Wonder if Nebraska would be a good analog.||
In 2007 they gave up an avg. of 37 ppg, including the embarassing 76 to Kansas. Tom Osborne fires Callahan. Brings in Bo Pelini, defensive background, to be head coach. Nebraska's defense improves 31 positions.
|3 years 10 weeks ago||Michigan was recruting Pryor, too.||
So is Michigan also guilty be association?
|3 years 11 weeks ago||The width of the stripes||
Makes all the difference. And I seriously doubt that any of those stripes were highlighter yellow.
|3 years 12 weeks ago||Flame away, but coaching change may play a part in this.||
DUI #1 happened while RR was coach. DUI #2 after Hoke became coach. But from what I have read, after DUI #1 and while RR was still coach, Stonum missed required meetings that were terms of his probation.
From what we have heard of Hoke's discipline re classroom attendance, if Stonum had missed a mandatory meeting he'd be at least pushing a plate at 4 AM the next morning. And I suspect that he wouldn't have been given an opportunity to miss another probation meeting.
Why was Stonum able to miss several mandatory meetings re his probation while RR was coach?
I'm guessing here, but it could be that Hoke believes with proper discipline Stonum would never have had DUI #2, and so is willing to give Stonum a chance.
That said, the kid is facing jail time, so being suspended/kicked of fthe team is the least of his worries.
|3 years 14 weeks ago||I really think||
that not enough focus is put on Bill Martin's & Mary Sue Coleman's roles in the last 3 years. After all, they hired RR.
You're the head of Michigan & its athletic department. You know what Michigan football's history is. There's dissatisfaction among the fan base due to a mediocre (by Michigan standards) record the last few years.
So you're interviewing possible head coaches, and a leading candidate is spread-only offense. You look at his last job and he took over a team that was mediocre the last few years, but was 7-5 before the switch, and he goes 3-8, 1-6 in conference, his first year. Umm. Are the results of this spread only, have to blow up the offense to save it approach something you're willing to endure at Michigan? And yes, WVU only endured one year of this pain before they had a very solid 9-4. But that was against the Big East, which is not as strong and not as deep as the Big 10. So, do you, the AD and President, consider that with stronger opponents that there's risk that it will take more than 1 year to revert to normal? And is that something that Michigan and its fan base are willing to put up with?
After all, go back to the Bump Elliot era. He was fired after going 8-2 his last year (granted there were a lot of sub par years preceeding this, but still) because he wasn't getting the job done. Michigan has high expectations; is this coaching candidate's approach compatible with Michigan's history and expectations?
|3 years 18 weeks ago||So DB||
is the one who went 15-22. Neat trick, especially since he wasn't the AD in 2008 & 2009.
|3 years 18 weeks ago||Have you ever heard odf the Army?||
They shout Hoo-ah all the time. In basic, when they are running they have their running songs. This is no different.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||The "Vince Lomardi couldn't"||
coach/win with this defense" comment.
|3 years 20 weeks ago||Critical thinking...||
or baseless speculation?