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|1 day 10 hours ago||State of Michigan: 14-1||
|2 days 9 hours ago||58.7%||
|2 days 23 hours ago||Who cares if they keep the Longhorn Network?||
Let them keep their network and don't give them a share of the Big Ten Network. Does it matter? The Big Ten Network does not need Texas to survive like a Big 12 network would. Adding Texas would be a coup.
|2 days 23 hours ago||I had a feeling this was going to happen||
The ESPN article was borderline about how the Michigan family pushed Brady away. I mentioned in the last thread, but I think the fans had little to do with this. Brady's bigger issues should be with Carr and the coaching staff if he had any beefs about his time here and how the QB situation was handled with Henson. It's not like Brady was treated like John Navarre during his career. After his 0-2 start, he went 20-3 as a starter so there was a lot of cheers that followed that Syracuse game, more than most Michigan QBs experienced here since Brady played.
I had a feeling clickbait media and sports talk was going to corrupt this story into how Michigan (the university and its fans) mistreated Brady which is pretty ridiculous.
|2 days 23 hours ago||He went 20-3 as a starter after that 0-2 start||
20-5 overall as a starter and he started off 0-2 in his first two games. I think that is pretty good. I can't think of a QB since then that can touch that winning percentage.
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|3 days 21 hours ago||Navarre is a great example||
I can see how Navarre may have a problem with the fans. And I think every first-year starting QB can be frustrating at times. Griese was the same way, and even lost the job to Dreisbach in 1996. People forget that Griese had to fight for his job just like Tom Brady. But he had the good fortune to have 3 years to play along with Dreisbach's injuries & regained the job in 1997.
Brady was in such a unique situation with 2 QBs like Griese and Henson surrounding him. His window for playing time was much smaller and under a lot more pressure with Henson following him.
As for Henson, I think some fans like myself don't remember him as fondly for splitting time with the Yankees and leaving his team in 2001. It screwed the 2001 team over and put John Navarre in a really bad spot.
|3 days 21 hours ago||1999 and 2000 teams were really close||
The 1999 and 2000 teams were really close. Both those teams lost some heartbreaking games. The 2000 team lost 3 games by a total of 7 points and blew 4th quarter leads in all 3 games. I think a lot of fans still believe if Carr had not juggled the QBs in 1999, that team does not lose to MSU. Still hard to explain what happened in that 1999 Illinois game. Illinois scored something like 4 TDs in the last quarter and change to shock us at home.
|3 days 22 hours ago||See post below||
I kind of disagree with this. I think the fans liked him a lot by the end of his playing career especially after the year he had in 1999, and his career peaked in his final games capped with the 2000 Orange Bowl. I just think his legacy was somewhat overshadowed by the 1997 National Championship team. Those late 1990s teams were unbelievable.
|3 days 22 hours ago||Fans treating him badly?||
I think this is how some great ones perceive slights, but it was not like Tom Brady was hated during his playing days. He was in a unique situation having to follow Griese and the 1997 National Championship team with Drew Henson coming in as a freshman. And to add to it, the team got to an awful start in 1998 going 0-2 in his first two starts. He maybe got booed in one game (1998 Syracusse). He went 20-3 as a starter after that so I don't think there were many that followed. I could see having a problem with Carr for juggling the QBs or the notoriety Henson received, but I don't think you can blame the fans for that. I'm sure the autograph lines for Rashan Gary were probably longer than the ones for Ryan Glasgow this past spring.
I think most fans that follow the program fell in love with him in 1999 as that was one of the best years a QB had at Michigan.
|5 days 13 hours ago||I think they are eventually going to go down||
I think they are going to eventually go down with Wisconsin next week. There are still tickets available on the Michigan Athletics website.
|5 days 20 hours ago||Not an official account||
I posted that because it was a fan site that had talked to that lunatic and posted a photo of him in the hospital after he got his arm stitched up
|5 days 20 hours ago||Big East was a BCS conference in name only||
After Miami, VT, and BC left, the Big East became a minor league for the the Power 5 during that period (2007-2012). The Power 5 would have jettisoned the Big East if the BCS contract did not exist.
|5 days 20 hours ago||He had a .500 record at Minnesota||
I've had this debate on the MGoBoard before. I think he made Minnesota respectable again, but he was a below .500 coach at Minnesota during a relatively down period in the B1G. Never won a bowl game and 4-9 against his biggest rivals (Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska). He did win the Little Brown Jug once, but I don't think his record comes even that close to Glen Mason. It's hard to evaluate because his tenure was ended due to health issues.
And when I meant poor record, I was looking at the group as a whole.
|5 days 20 hours ago||Rebuilt the foundation||
Hard to evaluate because he was only there for 2 years. But SDSU did not drop off after Hoke left, and they hired from within by promoting his DC (Rocky Long) to HC. Some might view that as a success, but that was also why there is a question mark there as well.
|5 days 21 hours ago||I know right?||
And in case there is anyone that didn't think it was real:
The guy already started a GoFundMe page for the window:
|5 days 21 hours ago||I thought this thread was going to be about this||
|5 days 23 hours ago||Who is the last MAC coach that has worked out?||
I know there is a lot of hype for P.J. Fleck, but I think schools evaluating him will probably be extremely careful in vetting him. He has yet to win or even play for the MAC championship.
And who is the last hot MAC coach to work out? Brian Kelly, Brady Hoke, or Butch Jones? And those guys had to coach at another mid-major (Cincinnati & SDSU) before getting a crack at a good Power 5 job. I guess some of this may be due to the quality of jobs. But the track record for Jerry Kill, Al Golden, Mike Haywood, Turner Gill, Tim Beckman, Dave Doeren, Darrell Hazell, Dave Clawson, Dino Babers, and Matt Campbell is not so hot right now.
|6 days 10 min ago||And he worked as a WR during spring practice||
I wouldn't be surprised to see that same package with him ending up split out wide or a throw back to the QB, especially given how much attention Peppers draws.
|6 days 12 hours ago||Possibly could be due to preseason ranking||
Michigan was the preseason #2 defense. The S&P+ ranking is still over 50% preseason projection right now. The preseason data is phased out over the first 7 weeks I believe. The defense has probably played well enough to maintain that ranking for the time being given the extra boost from preseason data.
|6 days 12 hours ago||Because our punting and FG kicking have not been good||
His ST ranking is weighted toward placekicking and punting, and Michigan has not been great in those areas. There has been really limited data on this so far though as Michigan had barely used either until the Colorado game.
|6 days 13 hours ago||LSU was preseason #3||
Look at post below. LSU was preseason #3 so that is part of the reason they are still rated so highly.
|6 days 13 hours ago||Preseason projections still make up more than 50%||
While this is informative, the data is still limited, and more than 50% of the model is based on preseason projections. It takes until week 7 for all preseason numbers to be phased out.
|1 week 1 day ago||Decision was made before this NCAA ruling though||
UCLA made that decision before the NCAA slapped Klemm with the 2-year show-cause today. I don't know if UCLA was expecting this to happen. UCLA could get out of his contract now and fire him for cause. He may be on a one-year renewable contract and could possibly let him go at the end of the season.
UCLA still has to present to the NCAA a plan with how they plan on monitoring Klemm, and I have no idea what is involved in that. And if Klemm were to run afoul of any more NCAA violations during this show-cause, UCLA could get hammered for deciding to keep him. Quite honestly, I don't really know the specifics of how show-cause penalties work. Usually they are significant barriers from employment by schools.
|1 week 1 day ago||Google is your friend||
December 19th, 2016
|1 week 1 day ago||I think UCLA self-imposed penalties in 2015-16||
UCLA self-imposed penaties in 2015-16 and suspended Klemm for the first 2 games of the 2015 season.
I am a little shocked at how well they kept under wraps how serious the violations were for this long because this is the first I had heard of it. They went through the summary disposition process and avoided a COI hearing. The NCAA tacked on the 2-year show-cause penatly today in addition to UCLA's self-imposed penalties. The part I don't understand is can or will UCLA still try to employ him?
Klemm is the 2nd highest paid assistant in the Pac-12 to give a better understanding of how important he was to UCLA's program. He had a reputation for being dirty in recruiting and some of it is coming to light now.
|1 week 5 days ago||It is for Colorado||
I wouldn't dump on Colorado just yet. With how the Pac-12 South has looked so far, Colorado may actuallly be competitive in their division.
And the B1G nonconference slate of games is not very good this year. Colorado-Michigan may end up being in the top 5 of B1G nonconference games.
5. ??? Oregon-Nebraska? Colorado-Michigan? Rutgers-Washington? Duke-Northwestern? UNC-Illinois?
|1 week 5 days ago||Luckily they are not on our schedule this year||
Northwestern may be able to salvage some respect with a home game against Duke this week. Glad they are not on our schedule this year.
|1 week 5 days ago||That would be a smart assumption||
I hope I didn't have to spell that out that the B1G is a Power 5 conference. The point I was trying to make is that outside of LSU-Wisconsin, almost all of the B1G's marquee nonconference games were scheduled this week.
|1 week 5 days ago||I think you answered your own question||
I don't think it is on the level of the other games, but Colorado is our only Power 5 opponent this year. A loss would be extremely damaging to the B1G.