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|6 days 9 hours ago||Aside from High Point, have||
Aside from High Point, have they lost to a newer program? And remember that HPU has one more recruiting class and was on the road. You could say they shouldn't lose that (I wouldn't yet), but conversely you could say they shouldn't beat Detroit or Bellarmine at this point, which they did. Or they shouldn't play teams like Cornell, Fairfield and Air Force (who beat Fairfield today) as close as they did. This team isn't that talented yet, and as young as they are they are wildly inconsistent.
|6 days 9 hours ago||Disclaimer: I played with||
Disclaimer: I played with JP
It's a fair question, although I personally know him to be an outstanding coach, and you won't find a guy who loves Michigan more. The answer is, it's too early to know. They have two recruiting classes in with better ones on the way. Lots of young guys and former club guys on the field. There's no question the team is improving. They are much better than they were last year. It would take any coach some time to build, especially starting with a club roster, no facilities, etc.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||True. Raffa was out. But||
True. Raffa was out. But Lott has already had very good days against some top faceoff guys (Kennedy at Hopkins and Tesoriero at Cornell). It's very hard to dominate in every game at that position. So much of it comes down to rythym or that particular match-up of techniques. I thought he had a below average day yesterday by his standards.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||You're right||
Don't need. We don't need a 109,901 seat football stadium or a revamped Crisler either. But we have those things in order to be successful enough in those sports to create the revenue necessary to build things like lacrosse stadiums (or to add lacrosse in the first place). Why did we build the wrestling practice facility or redo the baseball and softball stadiums for that matter? They will get a lacrosse facility because the mission in Ann Arbor is to be the best and the resources exist to make a good run at getting there.
I agree with Wahoo that from a recruiting standpoint a dedicated facility is a much better draw than playing in Michigan Stadium. I've played lacrosse in empty college and pro football stadiums. It's cool once. Then it kind of sucks.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||DeLuca would be a great hire||
DeLuca would be a great hire pretty much anywhere.
But I would be shocked if Texas adds lacrosse any time soon. We all hear these "word on the street" rumors about new programs at big name schools all the time, and except for Michigan they have all been false for the past 35 years. A few years ago it was Florida State getting all the buzz. Suprise me Longhorns.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Defense is short handed||
Their best defender this year has been Gembis, and I didn't see him yesterday. Injured? I hope not, because he has seemed to be the one guy who can consistently d up good attackmen, he's great at ground balls and he's been a big part of the clear. Keady, who was probably going to start this year, has been out all year from an injury in the fall. That's two starting close D out. Moore has also been out for awhile, and I got the impression he was pushing Brown for starting LSM duties. And of course they are playing the whole season without one of the best goalies in the country in Logan. That's four potential starters or at least heavy rotation guys at D who were out. For a young team that's not that deep, that's a pretty big hit - especially against Maryland.
It has been good to see guys like Zonino, Hatton, Walker and Sherman step up to fill some of those roles this year, but aside from Sherman they are still depending on a lot of young guys at positions where young guys usually don't play much.
Seeing the stream yesterday just made me wish men's and women's lacrosse were more similar - or at least used the same lines. You're seeing a field with lines for three sports (football, men's lacrosse and women's lacrosse). It just looks messy, and it has to be confusing for people just getting to know lacrosse.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||5 Year Plan||
What is your vision of where they should be in five years? Competing with Maryland, Hopkins, PSU and OSU for Big Ten championships? I have no doubt they will get there, but I think 5 years from the inception of the program is a bit ambitious to be at that level. At least it's ambitious to be at that level consistently. But I do think they will be a very good lacrosse team in a couple more years. Think in the 20-30 range on Laxpower.
Their results this year are a pretty good indication that they are on the right track. Winning what was essentially a tournament game, on the road, outdoors (I assume they have not practiced outdoors at home yet) yesterday was huge for a team this young. But keep in mind that they won that game in OT despite winning almost every faceoff. If Lott doesn't go off, do they have a shot?
Is the Maryland game on Tuesday in Oosterbaan or will the Big House be ready? If it's inside, I like Michigan's chances to make it fairly close. If it's outside, could be ugly.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Good perspective. Highlights||
Good perspective. Highlights how quickly the game is growing.
LandryHD - it's on TV a fair amount. Mostly ESPNu, but also NBC Sports Network, CBS College Sports, and other random games on regional channels like Altitude and SNY. If you look you can find multiple televised games every weekend. I'm hopeful that BTN will get into it in a bigger way once the conference starts up next year.
This has been discussed on here a lot already, but I don't think the UM start is slower than expected. They started with the club roster and no transfers. No way that team was winning more than a game or two in their first year, and even year two was a stretch. Compare that to High Point where they have three recruiting classes and a number of impactful transfers. Most new programs have built that way. Michigan chose to do it differently. With two classes here now you're just starting to see how that pays off. Our boys have also played a much tougher schedule than any of the other new programs. After the Maryland game next week they will have played four (FOUR!) top 10 teams already. We should have high expectations, but it will take time.
The ECAC is not weak either, even though it's a lame duck conference. The other four schools are all still significantly ahead of Michigan. Bellarmine this weekend may be the best shot at a conference win this year. Ohio State was a quarterfinal team last year, and Fairfield is playing very well this season so far. Air Force is flirting with being a tournament team, and playing them out there at altitude is not an easy proposition. I'd be very pleasantly surprised if we pulled off a conference win this year.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Brad Lott. 22 of 30 on||
22 of 30 on faceoffs. There's your difference maker. Didn't play in the first two games (didn't matter against Mercer, but they got killed by PSU on faceoffs). Real test for him is this weekend against Hopkins. Their faceoff guy is very good and their wings will be elite athletes.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Just more evidence pointing||
Just more evidence pointing to how meaningles scrimmage results are to predicting success.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||mgoblue says they beat||
mgoblue says they beat Marquette 14-6 last year
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Depends. Two more years and||
Depends. Two more years and they will have four recruiting classes here. That's always a pretty good time to measure a program's progress. Four or five more years and they will have some elite recruiting classes here if all of the hype about their 2016 class is for real and they can follow it up with similar classes in 2017 and beyond. Facilties will be build by then too you would assume.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||They beat Marquette 18-9||
They beat Marquette 18-9 FWIW. Scrimmage scores never tell you that much.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||I don't disagree with your||
I don't disagree with your premise that Martin doesn't get enough credit for many of the projects he started, but I have to disagree about lacrosse. The one positive impact he had on the program was elevating it to "varsity club" level in 2001. Other than that, he pretty much ignored the sport as far as I could tell. Athletics had nothing to do with Hopkins and Army coming to scrimmage the club team in 2007. That's why the game was at Elbel instead of at an athletic department facility. That event was scheduled by JP (he and the Hopkins and Army coaches are close) and run by the Recreational Sports Department, which oversees club sports. I was one of the many alums in attendance (it was a great night that made me really proud to have been part of the program), and I remember that Bill Martin was supposed to make an appearance but never showed. The Army AD, who is now the Maryland AD, was there by the way. I had an opportunity to chat with him.
Until a few years ago the athletic department technically oversaw the rec sports department, but the two had virtually nothing to do with each other. Now rec sports is completely separate from athletics.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||I usually go to either this||
I usually go to either this event or the US Lacrosse convention, which is in January. I chose the USL convention this year. Had I known he was going to be there, I would have attended. Great for Michigan for him to get this kind of recognition, and his attendance in Baltimore at a lacrosse luncheon further demonstrates his commitment to the sport.
|28 weeks 14 hours ago||Love Legg's goal. If you||
Love Legg's goal. If you want a ton more "lacrosse style goals" you can always actually watch lacrosse as well.
|29 weeks 2 days ago||We have 6 2016 commits||
We have 6 2016 commits according to this list.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||They would never challenge us||
They would never challenge us in court. They are chickens.
|31 weeks 3 days ago||Harmon (Mark) has had a long||
Harmon (Mark) has had a long friendship with UM lacrosse coach John Paul. I know from past alumni updates that he had hosted the club team on the set of NCIS a couple of times when they had traveled to play in LA. I can't find the article now, but I think I read in one of the stories that came out this weekend that JP put Harmon together with Brandon.
I have heard that there was some tension between the Harmon family and the athletic department, but from everything I saw and read this weekend it looks like Brandon and Harmon have patched all that up.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||Stupendous. Marvelous.||
Stupendous. Marvelous. Wondrous. Tremendous.
Where's the Rudy chicken?
|32 weeks 2 days ago||Well...I can think of||
Well...I can think of one.
Fortunately this gift probably green lights most, if not all, of the remaining facility projects.
|35 weeks 2 days ago||Lacrosse will get its own||
Lacrosse will get its own stadium. Probably out on South Campus, next to their new building with locker rooms and offices and such. Does not make sense to build them a building out there without a stadium and practice field. I think they don't have pictures yet because there's some approval hoops to jump through. I have been approached to donate to the cause, and it was made clear the stadium is coming and that it will be very nice.
The Elbel project was for the club team. They were going to build a lacrosse building next to Elbel and turf the fields. That project came to a halt as soon as the plans for varsity lacrosse happened.
|35 weeks 2 days ago||Hopkins didn't make the||
Hopkins didn't make the tourney this past season for the first time in 20-some odd years. Similar to UM hockey's run that ended this year. Of the teams in the new Big Ten lacrosse conference it can be argued that Maryland is the top outfit of the bunch recently, although Johnny Hop will definitely be a national title contender more years than they're not. Penn State and Ohio are also tournament teams that seem to be trending upwards. This is going to be a really tough conference, right behind the ACC.
|45 weeks 4 days ago||It was fall 2007. Purdue||
It was fall 2007. Purdue game.
But I agree with your premise. Petro is all about big time football. I think, aside from the very important Maryland factor, his first choice would be the Big Ten.
|45 weeks 4 days ago||What money? You are assuming||
What money? You are assuming that Hopkins makes money from their ESPN deal. I doubt it. Or if they do, I suspect it's negligible or maybe just some of the ad spots to sell if they can. Here's how the negotiation probably went.
ESPN: "We would like to televise all of your games on our networks, something that none of your competitors have."
Hopkins: "What's in it for us?"
ESPN: "We just told you."
|47 weeks 12 hours ago||Philadelphia tomorrow for the||
Philadelphia tomorrow for the lacrosse Final Four. Otherwise, yard work, bbq and beer.
|51 weeks 6 days ago||No. Their win last year was||
No. Their win last year was against Mercer. They were a two year old team. Not brand new (but certainly not tradition rich).
Good win for the boys today. St. Joe's is far from a powerhouse, but they did have 5 wins this year. From the stats, looks like a very complete game. Logan looks like he had a shaky first half but really put the wall up in the second half.
|1 year 5 hours ago||No way he's on the hot seat||
No way he's on the hot seat yet. First recruiting class are freshmen, so really this year's team is the start of the varsity era. Contrast that with the women's team, or some of the other new D1 men's teams, that had two years to recruit and get ready with only D1 players before playing. JP still has half a roster of club players. Good ones, no doubt, but most were not D1 caliber recruits and none of them were turning down offers from the big boys.
Recruiting is going very well. According to Laxpower and Inside Lacrosse they have 14 kids coming in this fall, including some studs like Mike Schlosser (Inside Lacrosse called him potentially the best midfielder in the country), Robbie Zonino, Ian King and Austin Shanks. The 2014 class looks to be pretty much done too, and they have 7 2015's committed. If you read their write ups on the sites that cover such stuff, a lot of them chose Michigan over some very good lacrosse schools.
They don't even have their own facilities yet. Look at the difference the PDC and Crisler made to basketball. Lacrosse has literally nothing of their own. When their facilities get built recruiting will take another step forward.
Brandon has to understand the situation. If they are around .500 in year 5 that's good realistically, assuming they keep playing a top 20 schedule. It took Notre Dame 10 years and new facilities to go from mediocre D1 program to final four. And that was a program that had already been D1 for 20 years before they finally started stepping it up.
It's really too bad the Detroit game was cancelled. It was probably going down to the wire. St Joe's is a good opportunity this Saturday, but UM only has two days to prepare while the Hawks had all week. At #1 Denver next Saturday will not be pretty.
|1 year 1 week ago||Was at the game today.||
Was at the game today. Second one I've gotten to see live this season. This team just doesn't have the talent or experience yet. Three or four of the freshmen will be good as they develop. Comparing them to Marquette isn't really fair. All D1 recruits on that team. Two years to recruit and get ready. More transfers. And still only two wins. It will continue to be painful for another season or so, then less and less so as recruiting fills in the roster and better players commit.
To be fair, they did a good job today at a lot of things. Faceoffs were good. Ground balls were better than they have been most of the season. That's a key stat they were getting killed at earlier this season and now are improving. The Delaware goalie played out of his mind. Too many UM turnovers too, which is a talent thing as much as anything.
OK. Done with lacrosse for today. Beat Cuse.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||No question they are||
No question they are improving. My thoughts from today...
Meter is their best dodger at attack. But there is nobody there who can carry the offense (ie. no Trey Burke point guard type player). Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.
That first midfield line is really talented and athletic. And they are all freshmen. They are putting the offense on their shoulders right now. Joseph is tiny, but he's fast and tough. Jackson is the best player on the team. Hernandez is a beast. They get free all the time, but they don't shoot well. If these three guys get their shots going over the next couple of years, look out.
There is no depth at midfield. The second line did nothing. They need Paras back. He barely played again.
Great to see the faceoff unit getting so much better. Colgate is a very good faceoff team, and Lott and his wings did a great job.
Logan had an off day by his standards. I thought he let in a couple of softies. He's very, very good though. A great goalie is the way you start building a program. He will win some games for them down the line.
Defense is missing a few starters still. Johnson, Swaney and Orr didn't play that I could see. They slide A LOT which makes for a confusing defense to play, but it also forces the offense to make plays. They make a lot of mistakes. They had trouble with picks today as well.
No problem clearing today. There is no doubt they are playing with more confidence. Where they really struggle is ground balls. They just look like they get muscled off a lot of ground balls when it was a scrum. Maybe that's all the freshmen who need to get tougher and stronger.
The event itself was just kind of weird. Horrible sight lines in a baseball stadium. That and I don't like the Mets. Decent crowd (they announced 15,000 and change), but it was spread throughout the stadium and I think a lot of people left after the first game.