Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
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|16 weeks 5 hours ago||Too bad they didn't get to||
Too bad they didn't get to play the Detroit game. Have to think that would have been a W.
|16 weeks 5 hours ago||There were not actually 9||
There were not actually 9 faceoff violations for Vermont. That's wrong. I'm thinking maybe 2 in the first half and 3 or 4 in the second?
I thought the defense played pretty well against a very good offense except for a couple of mistakes late or when O mids got trapped. Man down was perfect. Vermont makes you pay in transition. That's how they scored a lot of their goals.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Since IMG is such a sports||
Since IMG is such a sports factory does anyone know of athletes there who are committed to Michigan's various other teams? I ask because I know of one for lacrosse, Zach Schwartz, who is an Ann Arbor kid in the 2017 class.
Any for soccer, track, tennis, golf, baseball, basketball?
|16 weeks 6 days ago||I would agree they probably||
I would agree they probably made a run at Perkovic, but at that time the Michigan program was just starting out. They did get Alessi from the same Brother Rice team, who was arguably even better, but he ended up decommitting to go play football.
I've posted this before, but look at future Michigan classes. There are Michigan kids, Long Island kids, MIAA kids (Ryan Brown's brother, Jason, is coming next year - Ryan is the best player on Hopkins). Ryan Prior in next year's class is from Michigan, but goes to Culver. In the 2017 class Schmidt is from Brother Rice and Schwartz is from Ann Arbor, but goes to IMG. They have three public school Long Island kids in that class too, two from Manhasset and one from Northport.
And then the 2018 class gets here, which is supposed to be top 5.
I do think it's important to remember that this team is doing it now with no more club guys (I was one, and no way I would have helped this team) but with recruiting classes that have not been on anyone's elite lists yet. Good classes, but not great.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||It's interesting to me how||
It's interesting to me how different lacrosse teams use their 17 allowable dates. Some teams scrimmage once in the fall. Some twice. Some scrimmage a bunch in the spring/late winter before they start their regular season. (Michigan seems to usually be 2x in the fall and 1x preseason). Some teams don't scrimmage at all (Duke) and then cram more games into the season by playing more multiple-game weeks.
I'm sure every coach has his philosophy on scheduling, but for some teams it must also have to do with budget and class misses in the off-season.
One of the weirdest scheduling things, to me at least, is that the ACC and at least one other conference hold their tournament a week before everyone else. So they play their conference tournament, then have another regular season non-conference game (or no game) the next week before the NCAA tournament starts.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||ND, Ohio State, Penn State,||
ND, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan. I think that's it for indoor football practice facilities that lacrosse teams get to use. I think a few programs (Harvard maybe?) have bubbles they put up, but not sure how many are full field or could host a game.
Detroit practices and plays early season games at an indoor soccer facility in Pontiac.
Cuse has the dome, so they are the only ones who have an indoor facility that was actually built to host games. They also just built an indoor practice facility.
Marquette does not have one, but I think they are building one? If they are that would be a pretty big investment in lacrosse since they don't have football.
It's an advantage for sure, but the flip-side of that is the teams that deal with the weather conditions for practice are more prepared for those conditions than a team that has been in a cozy indoor environment for the preseason. Something to watch in early season games.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||How many beers did you have||
How many beers did you have at Citi Field that day? I was there too and didn't remember it that way. Just looked it up. Score was 10-7 and the teams traded 4 goals each in the 2nd half. Might have been Michigan's best game in their first two years. Peter Baum was still on that Colgate team as a senior, the year after winning the Tewaarton. They held him to 2 and 1.
Definitely a great win today. As someone else mentioned, even better to know they had a few players suspended and still got the W. Really good to see Logan bounce back after last week.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||Does anyone know where his||
Does anyone know where his lacrosse offers came from? Did Michigan lacrosse recruit him?
|20 weeks 5 days ago||If we're inviting someone||
If we're inviting someone from the poker world, then I'd be 100% in support of Norman Chad. But he has to commentate the event. That I would watch.
|22 weeks 1 day ago||Agree with all except the||
Agree with all except the weak schedule part. SOS has been very high all of the first few years. MUCH higher than any of the other newer programs. The wins have mostly come against lower ranked opponents, and there are no big name wins yet, but the losses have mostly come against very good teams.
|22 weeks 2 days ago||Even better, watch this. His||
Even better, watch this. His freshman year football highlights.
|22 weeks 2 days ago||They've only been around 4||
They've only been around 4 years, so define "awhile." Until this year, they still had club guys on the roster. This is the first year with four recruiting classes, and none of those classes was considered elite by anyone. They have one guy (King) that was considered a top 50 kind of player out of high school. They have developed guys like Schlosser, Jackson and Logan, none of whom were on any recruiting lists. They still haven't had anyone make any better than honrable mention all-conference. And who has left? I can't think of anyone.
Last year they came a goal away from making the Big Ten tournament against teams that have been around forever. The year before they made the ECAC tournament with half of the roster being club guys. I'd say they are tracking pretty well, and this level of recruiting coming in the future bodes really well.
|22 weeks 2 days ago||Looking at these classes||
Looking at these classes compared to the programs they have to compete against (Hopkins, Maryland, etc) in order to achieve "serious winning" I'd say the 2018 class is the first one that gets the talent here that is comparable. They will need a few of those classes at Michigan to be even. So probably another 4 or 5 years. If you can take a program from club to varsity and be competing with the big boys (Hopkins has like 50 national championships or something ridiculous) in only 9 or 10 years, that's pretty good.
I think it's impressive they are getting these kinds of commitments without even having facilities yet. I've been in the trailer where the lacrosse offices are. Yes it's Michigan, a lot of lacrosse people doubted they would be stealing east coast kids from the established powers so fast.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Remember that they did it||
Remember that they did it pretty differently than many of those others you mention, plus they've played a much tougher schedule, starting in year one, than most new programs do. As a club team alum I'm thankful they did it the way they did. I feel included. I'm confident that in a few years, with the recruiting they are doing (they are putting together elite classes that will start arriving in a couple of years according to many in the coaching world) and the new facilities finally completed that they will leapfrog some of those other new programs you mention. They are going to have to. None of those other teams are playing in the Big Ten.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||WD, Nice work. Did you put||
WD, Nice work. Did you put this together from the schedules released by everyone else? JP sent out the schedule to alums a few weeks ago and indicated it would be released soon. Wondering what the holdup has been. I imagine this kind of thing will be eased when they have their own facility. It has to be more difficult to put all of this together when you are using shared facilities.
Last year the team was on TV quite a bit, especially down the stretch. Any idea what the TV schedule will be?
Those first three games are going to be tough. We'll see early how much the team has improved.
My sense is this team has all of the pieces necessary to compete this year except for an elite faceoff specialist. That's a big hole though. That and goalie are arguably the two most important factors. I'm not saying they match up with Hopkins and Maryland and the like yet. They don't have a single preseason AA and those teams are loaded with them. But they can play with them. Even with some glaring weaknesses they came within a goal of beating Penn State to make the Big Ten tournament last year. I'm sure they'll be picked by everyone to finish 5th or last, but it's not out of the question to sneak into that 4th spot. I'd feel a bit more comfortable if it was last year's schedule with PSU, OSU and RU at home.
|31 weeks 4 days ago||According to this article and||
According to the article below and some other things I've read Michigan is definitely making some noise in recruiting now. Being included in a top 5 class list with the likes of North Carolina, Duke, Virginia and Johns Hopkins is rarified air. (Grain of salt disclaimer: the 2018 class is still 2 1/2 years from getting to college.)
Ford is a legit prospect. His finalists were reportedly UM, UNC and ND. But I would hope that the Michigan staff could land a Ford at Michigan. Seems like a no-brainer decision unless he didn't want to deal with being a legacy, no?
|33 weeks 2 days ago||Cool maybe, but I always hate||
Cool maybe, but I always hate lacrosse lines over football lines. Plus, Michigan stadium, as cool as it is, is just too big a space for lacrosse. Even if they get 10,000 fans, it still would feel empty.
There are others that regularly play in football stadiums. Ohio State does. So does Harvard. I'm sure those programs would all love their own facilities like Michigan is building though. Huge recruiting sell.
I also wonder about the logistics of sharing anything with football. I would assume that football has priority 100% of the time, which they should. That has to be a challenge. I also assume this new facility will put things like team locker room, coaches office, meeting rooms and stuff like that all in the same place, which has to help in planning daily schedules.
|33 weeks 2 days ago||2000 is definitely on the||
2000 is definitely on the small side for lacrosse, but I don't know that it's too small for Michigan right now. Those bigger stadiums are all out east where lacrosse has more of a fan base. Hopefully they are planning to expand it if crowd sizes here get consistently bigger.
Notre Dame's stadium seats 2500, but they can fit 4500 if they seat people on the berm and bring in temporary bleachers.
Denver's stadium seats 2000 plus standing room areas.
In contrast Homewood Field at Johns Hopkins seats 8500, and Virginia's Klockner Stadium seats 3500 in the grandstands and another 3600 on the hillside. Ridley at Loyola seats around 6000.
|40 weeks 1 day ago||My guess is that it has||
My guess is that it has occured to people for a lot of Michigan promo videos. Michigan has always promoted the fact that JEJ is an alum. Perhaps it just took Harbaugh's celebrity to make it happen. The story here isn't that they thought of it (who hasn't?). It's that they did it.
A quick google turned up this:
I've always wanted to play Michigan football, and now i want to go to the dental school too.
I seem to recall a promotional video for the university (not just football) with his voice, but I can't find it.
|40 weeks 2 days ago||I am no soccer expert, but I||
I am no soccer expert, but I enjoy watching the sport from time to time. It seems from the stats that Michigan dominated play, but came up short anyway. In a low scoring game like soccer, is that unusual?
All it takes is one bad goal or a hot goalie on the other end, and it seems like that could swing a game despite controlling play. I think of hockey, where a hot goalie or a bunch of pipes or a fluke goal off a skate can make a lopsided looking game go the opposite way from how it looks.
I also wonder how much of a let-down game this was after coming so close on the road to Maryland. Obviously you hope that never happens, but the reality is it does to everyone at some point.
|44 weeks 3 days ago||More of this. I enjoy the||
More of this. I enjoy the football and basketball stuff on the site as much as the next guy, but hearing about other Michigan sports (even aside from my sport, lacrosse) is always welcome. Thank you. Hope to make it to a game or two this year.
|44 weeks 3 days ago||It has to be "Aussie Aussie||
It has to be "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi" doesn't it?
|45 weeks 4 days ago||The decision was easy for me.||
The decision was easy for me. NFL Sunday Ticket = DirectTV. If they didn't have the monopoly on that I'd shop around.
The heavy rain issue is annoying, but it doesn't happen enough to make we want to trade it in and lose access to Sunday Ticket. We did have a crazy snowstorm a couple of winters ago that buried the dish, and it's at a spot on the roof that was too tough to get to. So we lost the signal for a week. That sucked, but it hasn't happened any other time.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||I guess time will tell. It's||
I guess time will tell. It's pretty hard to compare when you don't have the same talent level. There is one great offensive player on the Michigan roster, King, and he was injured for a big chunk of the season (and still led them in scoring). They have some nice midfielders, especially Jackson and Schlosser. Conor Ford is their third offensive coordinator in four years (first one is now a D1 head coach, and second one left for a national club outfit I'm assuming for a lot more money and less pressure). Ford did great things at Drexel and was an All-American at Hopkins himself. Let's see what he does with a year under his belt and more talent coming.
Last year, by the way, their goals per game went up despite no impact freshmen and a lower faceoff percentage. That tells me the offense improved quite a bit.
I agree they definitely need an upgrade in defensive talent, and hopefully that's coming through recruiting.
The 2016 class was ranked in the top 5 at one point by Inside Lacrosse, for what it's worth. Not sure if it's still considered that good, but I'm hearing great things about the 2017 and 2018 classes.
|47 weeks 2 days ago||Does it have any eligibility?||
Does it have any eligibility?
|47 weeks 4 days ago||I agree with Brian. I liked||
I agree with Brian. I liked the concept but thought it could have been executed better.
I do have a few questions...
How long do we predict Michigan football will be around? My assumption is for a long time. So what's the plan when we start running out of numbers?
Also, to the people who thought the legends jerseys were a money grab, how much do you think the athletic department actually made off of them? Assuming they get a small percentage of each sale, they would have to sell hundreds of thousands of them to make enough of a profit to make it purely about money wouldn't they?
|1 year 1 week ago||This video is a year old.||
This video is a year old. They played a shorter version at every game last year.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||While I disagree with you||
While I disagree with you about the potential payoff for lacrosse versus soccer (even this game ended with 15 total goals scored), I do agree this was a boring game. It was bound to happen when two of the slowest pace of play teams in the NCAA played each other on one day of rest. Hopefully more people tuned into the semifinals on Saturday. Both were incredible games with great finishes.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||They didn't say that's where||
They didn't say that's where it NEEDS to happen. They said that's where it is GOING TO happen. We'd all love to see the big football schools add men's lacrosse. That won't happen very frequently for a lot of reasons. In the past 36 years it's happened exactly twice, at Notre Dame and Michigan. Meanwhile a couple of dozen or more smaller D1 schools without football have added men's lacrosse. That will continue to be the trend.
Women's lacrosse will continue to be added at big football schools with regularity. Great Title 9 add.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||How many roster spots does a||
How many roster spots does a men's rowing team have? I just glanced at the Wisconsin roster, and it's huge. You would probably have to add two or maybe even three women's sports to offset those numbers. Can't see that happening.