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|2 years 48 weeks ago||Kick it into gear? Has he||
Kick it into gear? All he's done so far is make things worse...i.e. torpedo Lucien. Maybe we don't want him out there. Q: How can he want Lucien for defense if he has no DC?
|2 years 48 weeks ago||So then you agree we can fire||
So then you agree we can fire this guy if he sucks next year?
|2 years 48 weeks ago||That's mostly true, but I||
That's mostly true, but I think we should judge his 2012 class by their performance as freshman.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Hoke needs to get to work on||
Hoke needs to get to work on the DC position and locking up Lucien now....Someone needs to remind him that Golden Corral will be open all year.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||So Michigan might be able to||
So Michigan might be able to pull in a recruit in spite of their head coach? I don't like where this is going...it's like the anti snake oil. What happens next year when we don't have all these 3* SDSU recruits to poach?
|2 years 48 weeks ago||right, but it sounds like||
right, but it sounds like Lucien said he hasn't been contacted and the 2 UT guys said they have been.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Yea I agree. Also, I don't||
Yea I agree. Also, I don't know why the OP said "If were getting a member of the Michigan Mafia such as Austin, Heater or Bedford, one would guess that we could have gotten them relatively quickly" ---wasn't that the reason we weren't getting Hoke as the coaching search stretched on and on?
|2 years 48 weeks ago||He struck out on everyone who||
He struck out on everyone who was worth extra money, so we went with the fat guy who used to coach here with the losing record.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||"they know what corners you||
"they know what corners you have to cut to do that, and they're not going to do it. "
are you serious?
|2 years 48 weeks ago||What is||
What is tiresome/ridiculous/cliched/void of analytical reason about the fact that the man has a career LOSING record in two below-average conferences? I think it speaks far more clearly than anything else ever could. Any argument that he is a top 20 or even top 50 coach in the country is simply pie-in-the-sky dreaming.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Given your willingness to||
Given your willingness to massage statistics until they are almost meaningless (as with your glossing over Hoke's career 47/50 record) I'm curious if there was any coach in the country you wouldn't have found reason to fall in love with?
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Look, those of us||
Look, those of us disappointed and skeptical about the Hoke hire will remain so until some games are played. No one should delude themselves that a good press-conference or newspaper interview makes a good coach. I still say we made the equivalent of the Bill Stewart hire - someone the players love and who is committed to the school, but who just doesn't have the chops to be a BCS contender. Here's hoping our three star can turn into an all-american.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||So where did Allen's||
So where did Allen's brother-in-law's come from?
|2 years 49 weeks ago||I think the primary "argument||
I think the primary "argument against hoke" is that he has a losing record as a head coach. As has been stated before, we're all basically hoping he's a three star recruit who turns into an all-american. fingers crossed.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Honestly, this has been||
Honestly, this has been covered ad nauseum...there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of the Hoke hire. That doesn't mean we hate him, its just legitimate fear given his past performance as a head coach. Read any number of the past posts/diaries etc. that cover this.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||No, if he added more seats,||
No, if he added more seats, it would totally eclipse whoever the coach is.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Let's hope they're easier to||
Let's hope they're easier to win than MAC games
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Hoke is truly not a San Diego||
Hoke is truly not a San Diego State Man...wait...are we the only ones that do that?
|2 years 49 weeks ago||FWIW, Pasqualoni is 141-76-1||
FWIW, Pasqualoni is 141-76-1 as a head coach, with most of those coming in the big leagues.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||well I guess we aren't the||
well I guess we aren't the only ones with a prediliction towards uninspiring hires. (kidding) So I guess RR will be taking that year off.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Can't we just use the||
Can't we just use the turpigskin one?
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Yes. Compare how we responded||
Yes. Compare how we responded to failure to how Texas responded to failure. They brought in all the newest up-and-coming coordinators to reinvigorate the program. What did we do? Try and travel back in time, even though that style of football was what caused us to lose perpetually to Ohio State in the first place.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Look, the point is this is a||
Look, the point is this is a sports blog where people share their respective opinions. If there were only one acceptable opinion, this would be a pretty boring place.
Whether some people on this site express their doubts about Hoke will not affect his likelihood of success or failure here. I know everyone talks about how RR had no support early on in his tenure, but I don't think they're talking about the plebes on the blogs . They're talking about rich alums, former UM players, and the media. Hoke has already gotten a better reception than RR from all of these people. Whether some of us "little people" voice our own misgivings will have no affect whatsoever.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Oh right, tell me you really||
Oh right, tell me you really don't believe the whole "I only looked at Hoke" bullsh*t. I mean we know he looked at Pinkel and Fitzgerald....so I guess he only looked at those 3, and conveniently overlooked Miles and Harbaugh?
There are plenty of reasons to beproud to be a UM alum, but being self-righteous and blind about who our coach is and is not is not one of them.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||As a Bengals fan, I recognize||
As a Bengals fan, I recognize the mindset that led to firing of RR and hiring of Hoke. Mike Brown treasures loyalty and deference above all else, and wants to think he is special and better than everybody else. The group of "Michigan Men" alums responsible for this faceplant, who apparently wield far more power than I ever knew before, have shown a startling similar attitude throughout this process and are in perfect company with DB the DB.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||are we really going to try||
are we really going to try and take swipes at LSU just because we couldn't poach their coach? Let's try and make an effort to not look like a scorned woman.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||While there are certainly a||
While there are certainly a lot of variables, that doesn't mean you throw the record out the window. After all, the noise should average out after a period of time (unless someone is just really unlucky). We can slice it lots of different ways, but the fact is that the guy has an overall LOSING record as a head coach. While people can get pumped up all they want by a press-conference, football games are won on the field. I, for one am afraid that we just hired our very own Bill Stewart-someone the players love and who talks a good game, but who just can't cut it as a head coach at this level.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||The same reasons that||
The same reasons that top-level head coaches were reluctant to come here will extend to coordinators (maybe even more so, since they are even more expendable). Thus we have a fairly uninspiring OC already.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||I agree that coach Bill||
I agree that coach Bill Stewart's, I'm sorry, Brady Hoke's love for the school is not going to make him a success here.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/||
Look under the "appropriation" heading.