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that's the way i see it as

that's the way i see it as well.   Shane didn't earn it so now out of default it's Rudock's job to lose.   Which he won't ... he's steady.  Not a great play maker but will win a lot of games with the men around him.  

i like it .... good for

i like it .... good for dumbtonio ... and screw urbz

It's clear that they're

It's clear that they're asking the kids to reconsider .... whether that's going hard or not.  

Jimmy will get a few sparty commits to go blue!

these replies are awesome and

these replies are awesome and TRUE!

He's ours ..... no question.

He's ours ..... no question.   A free trip to cali ... never been there before.  I can't blaim him.  

i am a little suprised that

i am a little suprised that Harbaugh hasn't taken a few dumbtonio recruits.  i would love that for two reasons .... take some decent recruits with only 2 weeks left.   And secondly, send the fricken message that we get who we want ... spartans are 2nd class again.  

 

 

Yes it is Jack Hammer!  

Yes it is Jack Hammer!   Durkinging!!!!

It's not that Durkin will necessarily bring us a national championship but .... well ..... you know ...  we gonna win a national championship fellas!  

I think you guys are smoking

I think you guys are smoking the Dumbtonio weed.   Really ... the idea that the next guy is going to be all big ten is crazy.  Seriously ... they lose  most of their best players.  

Baylor had them beat.   They simply didn't finish.  OSU, Oregon, and Baylor for 50 mins all crushed this team.   Good wins???   Nebraska, come on.

They lose their top 2 RBs, 2 OL, their #1, an 2 WRs.   They're underranked DE in Rush, Calhoun (likely), MLB, and their best Safety and the CB in the country.   I actually like that Cook is coming back ... he's a mess.   And now without quality Lippett and Mumphrey .... 

Oregon is going to crush them .... much like osu did this year in their own house.  I think western is going to give them a game.  At osu is a loss.  

6-6 ... mark it down.   

No worries .... we have the

No worries .... we have the best coach in football.   They have Dumbtonio .... how about that  4th down call .... he's an idiot that's been bailed out.   Harbaugh will get him "retired" / fired in 3 years ... next 3 years for them.  6-6 (they lose a ton), 4-8, and 3-9.   

Cook is a train wreck and then they have Terry ... btw, did you see him on the sidelines late in the game?????   He was scared watching .... wait till he's playing.  

That enitre university is complete joke.   Don't get me started .. 

hmmm ..... i wonder if his

hmmm ..... i wonder if his source is the Jim's agent.  Everyone was pissed that it was leaked and the only one that had interest in it being leaked was the agent.  

I know that the Hackett doesn't trust the agent.   Which is not good .... but I think that's why we wanted to talk directly to Jim.  

So, I'll still sleep good tonight knowing that there was a 1-1 conversation and there is a verbal agreement.  There's no way Jim would do that to Michigan.  No way ... 

this is the only board i post

this is the only board i post / read.  

Years ago, i would read other boards but i've been too busy the last few years or possibly depressed.   

With the holidays, my friend in the know, and plenty of time off, I thought i would give back to the board that gave me so much over the years.  

 

 

My guy did NOT know this

My guy did NOT know this info.  Gave me a "I'm suprised that i didn't hear this" ... he did reiterate that a direct 1-1 conversation took place and a verbal acceptance was given.  

But, when i linked the info. it looks like that is late morning info. and my guy had a discussion first thing in the morning.  From a timing standpoint, I think it's entirely possible. 

 

Great!   I'll shoot my guy a

Great!   I'll shoot my guy a text and see if he can confirm.   

wow, i didn't hear that ...

wow, i didn't hear that ... when did that happen?   Today??

Kody99's updates

I talked to my guy this morning.  Everyone is very optimistic.   The only concern that is on the radar is if the Raiders go for a blockbuster offer.  

I asked if we think that will happen?   "It's probably less than 50%"    There are a few people that believe the Raiders will go "all in" on Jim.   Offer nearly everything he wants plus an option to exit if the Raiders move.   Others think that the Raiders are a little more rational now and will make a good offer but it will be "far short of Michigan's offer."  

If they did offer Jim, would he even listen?   He believes that if it's a "blockbuster" then he probably would ... but if it's a normal $3-4MM one.  He won't listen and will be on a plane to aa.

One thing that I guess i didn't know is that the NFL tampering rules are strict and enforced. SF would like to see Jim at Michigan vs. NFL team ... so there are no backroom, merry xmas conversations going on.  

I'm going to talk with him again on Friday ... i'll post the results.  

  

WTF happened to my posts?????

WTF happened to my posts?????   It seems like someone went in and deleted all relevant posts ...  weird ... no worries, i asked for one to get deleted but not all of them.  oh well!  

Jim is coming home.

Thanks  

Thanks!  

Go Blue!

I would post it Chick77 ....

I would post it Chick77 .... i know i'm not the only guy that has this info.   I would love to think that but Hackett has a few people enlisted ... they have families, etc.   

 

Guys - I think the 100% is

Guys - I think the 100% is way ahead of itself.   way ahead .... i would say that it should happend but if he's still "listening" to NFL teams, there's still a chance it doesn't happen.

With that said, I'm not watching any of the NFL teams ... if it's true there is nobody really interested then i would say 100% is accurate.  

Some new info. from my buddy

Some new info. from my buddy that had a short discussion with someone around noon.    

1)  An agreement for the buyout is in place with SF for Harbaugh.   His agent has brokered the deal ... the buyout can be used for Michigan or NFL team.   

2 ) Harbaugh's agent said that Jim wants to pursue Michigan but will still listen to NFL offers until the deal is done.   This is really good news but this was NOT what he said he would do last week.   The team had thought they would have time to finalize the deal without NFL teams coming into the mix.  So, this is good news but not great and not what they were hoping for.  

My take on this (not through my source)... is that NFL teams are limited in what they can do until the season this buys Hargaugh more time to field offers?   So, do they really have his committment?    

3)  There are concerns about the $ still.   The problem is that there is too much $ and it has to be bucketed.   I guess it's a good problem to have!!  This is a little crazy ....  but the President wants the guarrantees "reasonable".  

EDIT:   My source speculated that "Reasonable" is somewhere around Saban from a fixed standpoint.  As i said this morning, all kinds of options are being looked and it appears to now be focused around longevity bonuses ...  but the agent wants flexibility for Jim to go back to the NFL and is saying 3 years is too long and is asking for 2 year rollovers.    

Anyone know where Saban is from a fixed standpoint?    Does he have a rollover bonus?   Anyone know Dumbtonio's and Izzo's?   

 

Anythink different than what

Anythink different than what i said ... what is he hearing ...?  TIA

My overall vibe is that

My overall vibe is that things are moving along.   He seems fairly upbeat and positive about things but in fairness i thought he seemed more so at the end of last week (i posted about this last week and the high fives around the room).   

I do think he's nervous and Hackett's team is nervous.   They deliberatly went all in on Harbaugh and the answer seems likely to come today .... 

The agent and $ discussions are a positive but i didn't get the sense that it was "negotiating".  I got the sense it was just working through the concepts of options / terms .... the team believes strongly that $8MM or $53MM is more than enough to win to the deal.   This is more about creating the appropriate win / win.   Win for the UM in something that doesn't appear crazy and win for Harbaugh in achievable targets that still gets him the same dollars but in line with the overall university goals.  

Although, i know he'll text me, I'm still going to call him later to see if he's heard more info.  

I might ask him about the NFL bidders to see what the team knows.  

 

 

No direct discussions with

No direct discussions with plan B candidates.   They ARE having direct discussions with Harbaugh's agent.   

To this point, the search firm has vetted and very preliminary discussions with plan b candidates ... not the UM.  

My source is a very, very

My source is a very, very close friend that i've known for decades, went to school with, etc..   He is close to several inside the athletic department.   My info. is directly from him ...  i won't share any additional information ... it's a small world and he's been great to me.  

OK, here's the latest.
OK, here's the latest.  BTW,

OK, here's the latest.  BTW, when i said Team ... I meant Hackett's team.   Hackett has a few folks in the AD's office working through the holidays (including Sat and Sunday), collecting info. and ready to respond with anything that comes up.

1)   They do NOT have word yet from Harbaugh's agent if he will come home.   They still are expecting word today on serious interest level (see my post from last week for more info.).   Again, if Harbaugh wants to entertain serious NFL offers before the Michigan decision then Hackett will look at plan Bs and start initial DIRECT discussions.  

2)  NO DIRECT discussions have occurred with any plan Bs.   Hackett has been clear that NO direct discussions will occur until Harbaugh's decides on if he's going to consider NFL offers.  

3)  The ceiling for Harbaugh is $53MM ... 48 and 5 (for the buyout) ... Hackett has the authority to move the 53 around any way he would like ... including bonuses for championships, etc.   Harbaugh's agent discussed more performance based $ vs. salary because it will provide a more palatable (sp?) story.   The example given to me ... $6MM per year, $1MM for academic results, up to $1MM for on the field results .... and possibly 3 year rolling longevity bonuses ... Dumbtonio / Izzo model. 

4)  They believe that Harbaugh's agent has an understanding with the 49ers on the buyout.   The agent is saying that this will help speed up the process after his last game.  "Ready to Roll" as soon as the clock hits zero (referring to the last game).   

5)  Hackett is running the show ... pure executive doing his thing.   

6)  Tension is fairly high in the room ... it's a noticeable change from last week to this week.   Waiting on word today .... is a big deal.  

7)  I asked him at the end of the discussion, "What do you think?"   His response ... "He comes home."  

GO BLUE!!!

OK, here's the latest.  BTW,

OK, here's the latest.  BTW, when i said Team ... I meant Hackett's team.   Hackett has a few folks in the AD's office working through the holidays (including Sat and Sunday), collecting info. and ready to respond with anything that comes up.

1)   They do NOT have word yet from Harbaugh's agent if he will come home.   They still are expecting word today on serious interest level (see my post from last week for more info.).   Again, if Harbaugh wants to entertain serious NFL offers before the Michigan decision then Hackett will look at plan Bs and start initial DIRECT discussions.  

2)  NO DIRECT discussions have occurred with any plan Bs.   Hackett has been clear that NO direct discussions will occur until Harbaugh's decides on if he's going to consider NFL offers.  

3)  The ceiling for Harbaugh is $53MM ... 48 and 5 (for the buyout) ... Hackett has the authority to move the 53 around any way he would like ... including bonuses for championships, etc.   Harbaugh's agent discussed more performance based $ vs. salary because it will provide a more palatable (sp?) story.   The example given to me ... $6MM per year, $1MM for academic results, up to $1MM for on the field results .... and possibly 3 year rolling longevity bonuses ... Dumbtonio / Izzo model. 

4)  They believe that Harbaugh's agent has an understanding with the 49ers on the buyout.   The agent is saying that this will help speed up the process after his last game.  "Ready to Roll" as soon as the clock hits zero (referring to the last game).   

5)  Hackett is running the show ... pure executive doing his thing.   

6)  Tension is fairly high in the room ... it's a noticeable change from last week to this week.   Waiting on word today .... is a big deal.  

7)  I asked him at the end of the discussion, "What do you think?"   His response ... "He comes home."  

GO BLUE!!!

OK, here's the latest.  BTW,

OK, here's the latest.  BTW, when i said Team ... I meant Hackett's team.   Hackett has a few folks in the AD's office working through the holidays (including Sat and Sunday), collecting info. and ready to respond with anything that comes up.

1)   They do NOT have word yet from Harbaugh's agent if he will come home.   They still are expecting word today on serious interest level (see my post from last week for more info.).   Again, if Harbaugh wants to entertain serious NFL offers before the Michigan decision then Hackett will look at plan Bs and start initial DIRECT discussions.  

2)  NO DIRECT discussions have occured with any plan Bs.   Hackett has been clear that NO direct discussions will occur until Harbaugh's decides on if he's going to consider NFL offers.  

3)  The ceiling for Harbaugh is $53MM ... 48 and 5 (for the buyout) ... Hackett has the authority to move the 53 around any way he would like ... including bonuses for championships, etc.   Harbaugh's agent discussed more performance based $ vs. salary because it will provide a more pallatable (sp?) story.   The example given to me ... $6MM per year, $1MM for acedemic results, up to $1MM for on the field results .... and possibly 3 year rolling logevity bonusses ... Dumbtonio / Izzo model. 

4)  They believe that Harbaugh's agent has an understanding with the 49ers on the buyout.   The agent is saying that this will help speed up the process after his last game.  "Ready to Roll" as soon as the clock hits zero (referring to the last game).   

5)  Hackett is running the show ... pure executive doing his thing.   

6)  Tension is fairly high in the room ... it's a noticable change from last week to this week.   Waiting on word today .... is a big deal.  

7)  I asked him at the end of the discussion, "What do you think?"   His response ... "He comes home."  

GO BLUE!!!

My friend is on his way to

My friend is on his way to over to meet up with the team.   I'll post a full report ... he's calling me on his way home!   

Since i have no reputation with this login .... read me old posts for his accuracy.   

I feel like a kid and Santa is going to tell me my gifts in a couple hours!!!!

 

My friend is on his way to

My friend is on his way to meet up with the team ... he said he would call me on his way home!  

I'll give a full report after the discussion!!!   

 

wow ... not sure how this

wow ... not sure how this play into his thinking ... on the one hand, he will take more undeserved critism .... on the other hand, maybe it makes his thirst a little stonger.  No one wants to go out a loser.

Net / Net .... maybe a positive.   

Dumbtonio doesn't recruit

Dumbtonio doesn't recruit many now ... actually i don't think they have any left after the long harred OL from out west ... 

I always thought that Jucos were a very short term view ... KSU is the only team that i know that has ever won consistently doing that ....  Recruit 5 year players ... redshit and develop.

Roster below

http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/msu-m-footbl-mtt.html

 
at home .... heck ya!   i'll

at home .... heck ya!   i'll take that bet all day.   Away ... it will be very difficult.   

team will be pumped!

i just hope we beat sparty.

i just hope we beat sparty.  B's teams are always ready for those games .... i think we'll get a split.

Before the season i thought we would win both games but now i'm thinking split.  

yea, payback is coming and

yea, payback is coming and coming in 11 months.  

they are totally scared ....

they are totally scared .... i work with a sparty and have sparty friends.

 

Totally freeked about the notion that Jim H likely will take over.   They see 6-6 over and over and over ... and saint dumbtonio's time is coming!!!   

Agree CF ... tons of good

Agree CF ... tons of good schools in the larger area.  

DCC is what 30 minutes ... maybe 40 from aa?   Someone will take the drive with her and show her that it's not far ... and it's a great school.   Brother Rice is right there too.  

Educate her and she'll be fine!!

Absolutely agree SF Blue ....

Absolutely agree SF Blue .... honestly, i can't sleep but at the end of the day, you're exactly right.  

Trust in Jim! 

Trust in Jim ... he knows what needs to happen!  He would have stopped all this last week if he truly didn't want to come .... again, i can't sleep but I keep coming back to this!!!! 

 

GO BLUE ...

We should have all the info.

We should have all the info. we need come Monday or Tuesday at the latest.   They'll either start moving on #2 or we won't hear anything and that will be a clear sign that we're likely to be the happiest fan base in the country. 

 

 

 

Yea, I believe this info.  

Yea, I believe this info.   My friend that continues to keep me posted sent me a text saying two things ...

1)  The vibe in the "team room" (his phrase) was not as positive today as they continue to receive "lots of quality info from a variety of sources".

2)  Someone in the rooms said  "The Mrs. is NOT on board" ... he explained it away by saying the schools are a question.  

We're having some good days and bad days .... this is a bad day!  

 

Edit: I sent him the statement from Scheftner about the Mrs ... his reply "yea, officially, she's on board.  But, we're hearing conflicting messages."   

Good for you .... love me

Good for you .... love me some Key West!

THIS IS THE SAME INFO THAT I

THIS IS THE SAME INFO THAT I POSTED AT THE END OF THE THREAD.  

 

sorry guys ... i called a couple friends after the conversation.

Around 3pm, eastern today, Harbaugh's agent called and talked through some details of the agreement ... really clearifcations... making sure he has total understanding of the details.  He again said that Jim is really upset with the leaks but that it didn't come from the Harbaugh side.   My buddy said the michigan team doesn't know either way.  

This weekend / Monday after the game is big ... the agent said that the family is going to hash some things over about moving to AA and truly determine if Michigan is likely.   If it's not, then they will give an indication to michigan to seriously begin looking at plan B.   That wouldn't necessarily mean that he's out depending on other opportunities.    

My buddy thinks this very good news.   Getting clearfications is because they don't want any misunderstandings.   The family really considering AA is great news too... if it's a go then this thing is going to happen!!!!   And probably happen the day after SF last game.  

 

AWESOME ... GO BLUE

 

edit:  I forgot maybe the best part ... after the call, the michigan team did some high fives across the table.  The tone was excellent.  

 
 

I'm feeling pretty good

 

I'm feeling pretty good about this news.  It's not as good as saying he is coming but it is moving in the right direction.  
 
Talked to a sparty friend and i gave him the scoop ... he's shitting his pants.  They know they are going to be 6-6 and the detroit bowl in a hurry.  
sorry guys ... i called a

sorry guys ... i called a couple friends after the conversation.

Around 3pm, eastern today, Harbaugh's agent called and talked through some details of the agreement ... really clearifcations... making sure he has total understanding of the details.  He again said that Jim is really upset with the leaks but that it didn't come from the Harbaugh side.   My buddy said the michigan team doesn't know either way.  

This weekend / Monday after the game is big ... the agent said that the family is going to hash some things over about moving to AA and truly determine if Michigan is likely.   If it's not, then they will give an indication to michigan to seriously begin looking at plan B.   That wouldn't necessarily mean that he's out depending on other opportunities.    

My buddy thinks this very good news.   Getting clearfications is because they don't want any misunderstandings.   The family really considering AA is great news too... if it's a go then this thing is going to happen!!!!   And probably happen the day after SF last game.  

 

AWESOME ... GO BLUE

 

 

my buydd (with significant

my buydd (with significant contacts) is suppose to call me in a few minutes .... i've been a lot of drinking and he texted and asked if i'm available for an update!  

 

I CAN NOT WAIT!!!!!!

 

 

my guy is saying the same

my guy is saying the same thing ... "totally overblown" apparantly was the phrase that his agent said.  

my source didn't know if it

my source didn't know if it was true or not.  He said it could be because Jim H wants flexibility in really everything about the contract.

My guy said that Jim was furious that the offer was leaked.   He said that Jim has never negotiated like that in the past wasn't going to do it now.  

i'm glad he's coming back

i'm glad he's coming back .... he'll go 6-6 and a BIG L in the Big House.   

I don't know for sure but

I don't know for sure but this is very possible ... i heard a week ago this was going to get done but my guy wouldn't tell (although i didn't keep asking) the source.   This would make sense though ... i know he knows Andy.   

he's awesome... such a great

he's awesome... such a great tackle!

I'm in brother ... oh shit, i

I'm in brother ... oh shit, i can't, i don't live there ...