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|3 days 19 hours ago||+10000||
|3 days 19 hours ago||What if you like the block M||
What if you like the block M more than the emblem or UMD? I don't have either but if I got the block M it wouldn't be to fool drivers next to me that I went to AA...it'd be bc I think the Block M looks cooler on a plate. Lol what an odd criticism. May I ask how old you are?
|3 days 19 hours ago||SLOW CLAP. End thread.||
SLOW CLAP. End thread.
|3 days 19 hours ago||This is one of the most||
This is one of the most confused statements in the entire thread. For the percentage of those that actually apply, a lot get in. Let's not pretend there aren't boatloads of Carib med students from UM-AA, despite their supposedly superior peer group, resources, and connections. Conclusion: you don't know what you're talking about per usual.
|3 days 20 hours ago||I totally get what you're||
I totally get what you're saying but I think these things are overstated. In the case of med school they want to know 1) are you gonna pass the curriculum and boards? And 2) are you gonna be a good compassionate clinician? The 4.0 tells you yes to the first question most likely yes, but not the second.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Not to mention your HS GPA||
Not to mention your HS GPA often depends on your personal maturity level and your home life/ support, not just academic intelligence. So we can also shut down that topic too please. Further, there are many types of intelligence. One of those types includes having perspective on your place in the world so you don't get too self-important. Top colleges don't seem to screen for that if this thread is any evidence :D
|3 days 21 hours ago||Btw I'm sure there's some||
Btw I'm sure there's some dickhead who went to Hopkins in UG who applied to Wayne as his "backup" w a 3.4 GPA thinking he'd beat out "some asshole from public school (Michigan)" w a 3.65. Tough luck. They solve this problem w MCAT (I know still flawed) and other application aspects.
|3 days 21 hours ago||Tai luckily numbers aren't||
Tai luckily numbers aren't the only things that dictate who gets into med programs. I can tell you maybe 20-30 UMD students apply to US MD or DO schools - most of whom match up w anyone else applying. The rest go international or give up altogether. It's a small school w an even smaller premed community. You're at WSU so you can see that for yourself I'm sure bc we send a bunch there each year.
|3 days 21 hours ago||I had a similar experience.||
I had a similar experience. Now I'm in med school w some awesome UM-AA students who are performing just as well as I am w my UMD education and we greatly enjoy bonding over or UM fandom.
|3 days 21 hours ago||Lmao dude WMU is much easier||
Lmao dude WMU is much easier to get into than UMD FYI. Nearly all my friends who settled for WMU had ACTs in the upper teens. All of my remotely intelligent friends went to UM, MSU, Wayne, or one of Oakland/UMD.
|3 days 22 hours ago||Lmao||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Shot clock violation I saw as||
Shot clock violation I saw as a makeup call. The shot right before that play the UW player was hit on the follow through. That should've been, IIRC, 3 shots at the line. I say UK got lucky there anyway bc UW could've gotten 3.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Super happy for the UW guys||
Super happy for the UW guys but feeling pretty bad for the UK kids. They worked so hard and it's so hard to do what they've done. Don't feel bad for Cal, or their fans...just the players.
|4 weeks 19 hours ago||Troll||
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I would put it this way: Ease||
I would put it this way:
Ease of post-graduation life: US MD > US DO > Carib or International MD
Personalize the other factors like cost, location, curriculum, interest in research, and your personal "feel" of the school when you go and interview. I chose a less "prestigeous" DO school vs a prominent one because I felt it was a place that would provide a great support system. I have no way of knowing whether or not my future has been negatively altered in some way as a result of this decision, but so far I'm very pleased with my decision to pick a school based on those factors.
Med school is becoming more competitive every year. Make sure you know you want to do it and get ready for the ride!
|5 weeks 2 days ago||If you have the choice, and||
If you have the choice, and you have a strong passion for an extremely competitive program like ortho, choose an MD school. It IS more likely just due to sheer numbers of residencies and perhaps a number of other factors. If you live and want to practice in a place like Michigan, Florida, Arizona, or Pennsylvania, these are considered "DO friendly" states. i.e. they have many current DOs working in the state as well as prominent DO programs. They have ACGME residency programs with many DOs as attendings and as residents. In a state like California...not so much.
Location matters. Academic center vs. Community hospital programs matter. If you're looking at a residency at UCLA medical center in orthopedic surgery, a DO degree would probably eliminate you.
Remember though, there are 141 or so MD schools compared to 30 DO schools. So if theres 650 MD students matching in ortho, there's prob 5X that applying to that as compared to a DO applying to that program. So that also will skew the statistics. DOs going into a competitive need to be smart and resourceful in how and where they apply. The thing is, I'd really say that for MDs as well.
Btw they just opened a new DO ortho residency program in MI.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Tai does that include AOA||
Tai does that include AOA match? If not then one of the guys at my school was one of the 3 to match in neurosurgery! Lol
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Essentially, it's hard to get||
Essentially, it's hard to get into neurosurgery as a DO and an MD! I have family in Anesthesia, gen surgery, PMR, Rads, ENT, and EM. Most DOs do internal med or family but so do most MDs just based on the amount of open slots per year. I hope that helps answer your question a bit.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not a program director||
I'm not a program director but as a DO student as well as in a family of many DOs (and MDs), DOs are not at more of a disadvantage than MDs at getting competitive specialties. For example, DOs have their own residency programs through the AOA that (for now) only DOs can apply to. So if there are say 100 surgical AOA residencies, then a DO competes for those 100 slots plus any surgical residencies with the GME. If you are interested in a large academic research center, you'd better be the best DO in your class, take both COMLEX and USMLE, and have all the important qualifications to sniff a chance. I believe a DO was taken recently for Mayo Derm which is one of the most exclusive programs in the country. If you want to specialize in a competitive specialty as a DO, you have to get all the same competitive scores that an MD would. And btw there will be a residency merger soon so I really don't know how that will change the game but I have heard the odd docs out will be the Carib MD med students, not the DOs. But who knows at this point it's just speculation.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Dare I advise you to venture||
Dare I advise you to venture thorugh the SDN forum: http://forums.studentdoctor.net You can search for advice on application process, and connect with current medical students all across the land! It was a useful albeit big time-wasting resource that helped me a lot in applying. Also if you have a health professions advisor on campus, ask them for help on the basic stuff. They might not have a ton of knowledge about specific programs, but they can help you throughout the daunting application process. Good luck to you!
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I should've put a caveat in||
I should've put a caveat in there that it is a very good school and you're right about the patient population allowing for great clinical experience. However, if you've never heard anything bad I question how many Wayne students you know! lol I'm only speaking from the 30-40 friends and classmates who have attended or are currently in the program now compared to my friends at other schools with more updated curriculums.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||C'mon man nothing douchey||
C'mon man nothing douchey about pulling out First Aid 1st year ;D As you said most of 1st year curruculum is useless trash, so it's a good resource to stay focused on most important material.
BTW: Good luck on boards! Coming up real quick!
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Everything Tai said but don't||
Everything Tai said but don't choose Wayne. LOL Wayne prepares you to be a great doctor, but it is a hellish and outdated curriculum. I have many classmates that go there/recently graduated and they have not changed their curruculum since like 1970 and it's very disadvantageous for students. While you may not be completely happy in any medical school, you can almost guarantee misery going there if overwhelming precedent holds. Do good on your MCAT (obvs), turn in your apps ASAP (rolling admissions). Have knowledgable people proofread your personal statement. I think honestly my PS is why I got interviews with pretty mediocre/below average stats.
In general, if you have options, really look into how curruclum is set up at that school and compare it to what you know as your ideal style of learning. I cannot stress this enough: you want to find the best place FOR YOU, not what US News and World reports. Also, I agree with Tai in that if you're torn between two programs, pick the cheaper one.
-(1st year DO student)
|5 weeks 2 days ago||If he doesn't have a good||
If he doesn't have a good steth, get him a customized LIttman Cardio stethoscope (there are a couple diferent versions but they are all very good). Those are considered one of the top brands but they are around $150-$200. Otherwise his favorite alcoholic beverage of choices is always welcome.
|9 weeks 20 hours ago||Ya I'm thinking Max should||
Ya I'm thinking Max should get a 5th.
|9 weeks 20 hours ago||Spike gave no fucks right||
Spike gave no fucks right there.
|9 weeks 20 hours ago||Cmon Max get nasty there!||
Cmon Max get nasty there!
|9 weeks 5 days ago||LMAO! Derp!!!||
|9 weeks 5 days ago||We can't even rebound after a||
We can't even rebound after a damn free throw? Srsly?
|9 weeks 5 days ago||No answer for Dawson = we||
No answer for Dawson = we don't stand a chance.