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|1 week 6 days ago||i love SEC threads...god I||
i love SEC threads...god I hate that conference....btw, UK would be an upper tier B1G team, that's what many of my friends here in Lexington tell me.
|1 week 6 days ago||well my friend...the more BCS||
well my friend...the more BCS titles the SEC wins and the more Ohio State loses to the SEC in that game, the more the B1G will continue to get disrespected.
Like you, I too pull for my team to win, no matter how bad the conference is perceived to be. But if the SEC actually does win 20 in a row (unlikely obviously), and MIchigan happens to have a handful of 11-1 seasons in that span where we feel deserving of being in the top 4...guess what...they will leave the that MIchigan team out because they are in the Big10.
I will always want Ohio to have a great record against other opponents that are not Michigan, not that I won't laugh at them when they are down, but still. The last 10-15 years it has been the opposite of that. They have done fantastic against us and the B1G, but lousy in big games that the media and casual fan (many SEC fans are casual bandwagonners, especially in Lexington KY) will see as your defining moments. OSU is the face of the conference now and they directly affect the outcomes of some of Michigan's seasons, we need them to perform well agianst teams that aren't us if we want real national recognition in the future.
We need to perform too....good god is it getting tougher and tougher to watch Michigan football....now I know how fans of constantly mediocre programs feel.
|1 week 6 days ago||i wish we could go back to||
i wish we could go back to not knowing who our recruits for the insuing season are until we read it in Lindy's or Phil Steele's college football preview magazine, or a Michigan football season prorgam (I'm 25, so i don't remember before those days) . This whole knowing your team's classes 1, 2, and 3 years out adds way to much drama to the soap opera that college football has become. Michigan hasn't done well in the soap opera era. We did better when most of the college football world was under wraps.
I just hope we can win 80% of our games in a 10 year span again.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||kudos to Levert, and||
kudos to Levert, and Stauskas' injury may have added to the fact that Duke went all out to stop him. The most dissapointing part of this game is how soft Michigan played the whole game, especially Horford and GRIII and it has become a trend for these 2. Even McGary plays soft at times, but has shown more ability to take over with aggressive play.
You had to assume Duke being the team they are would do what they could to limit Staukas and McGary, but you would think that would open things up a bit for Horford and GRIII, but they are just bodies on the floor most of the game. Our defense was atrocious too. Duke missed a lot of wide open 3's that lead to some easy reounds for us, and every other team seems to make shots when they attack the basket aginst us, however we don't do the same with any consistency. We miss a lot shots inside 10 feet because we are not aggressive. McGary has been in spurts, as have Stauskas, Levert, and Walton, everyone else on the team is playing soft consistently. Only wide open layups being made. Iowa State, FSU and Charlotte's big dude really exposed our total lack of agressiveness. It is our achilles heel. We could be 7-1 if we were more agressive, especially GRIII, Horford, and Morgan. No one on Duke looked like a role player, our whole team looked like role players last night.
Our problem is not just losing Burke and Hardaway (that was inevitable). Our problem is something that can be fixed and that is the tenacity and agressiveness of our guys that play around the rim a lot. We will lose 10 games in the B1G if we play as soft as we have been.
This team will easily lose 12-14 games if it doesn't get its act together.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||my sentiments exactly...best||
my sentiments exactly...best post in a long time whether it's popular opinion or not. I live in SEC country (in Lexington KY, home of UK) and i constantly hear how UK would be one of the top 4 or 5 teams in the B1G every year....I really want the Big10 to show up and show these moron SEC fans that college football is relatively even across the BCS landscape with the excetption of a few great teams with momentum (that can be easily lost if not careful), and anyone can lose to anyone.
Go Blue!....Go B1G! (cannot say "Go Ohio", but i hope they win)
|2 weeks 21 hours ago||i honestly don't know if I||
i honestly don't know if I really care who wins the game...I guess Ohio St. because we just gave them a great game, and I made a bet with my GF that no SEC teams would make the championship game this year (was really banking on Oregon at the time, she is a UK fan).
I really don't like either team, but I find myself pulling for OSU more often because I respect them more as a rival and College Football is better when both OSU and UM are good (god i hope we get good).....Sparty being good does little for the B1G. People will start to respect the B1G more when Michigan and OSU (also Penn State and Neb) are at the top again and Sparty/Wisconsin/Iowa/Nwestern look solid year to year. The SEC pretty much has their blue bloods looking good year to year with a lot of solid teams thrown in there (and UK lol). But we rational fans know all SEC teams outside of Bama are no better than any other solid team in any other conference. So I guess I am pulling for OSU to bring the whole perception of the B1G up one notch.
The B1G also desperately needs to have a good showing in bowl games this year, probably more than any other year. That means we will have to beat whoever we play (Georgia, Vandy, some Big12 team), OSU will have to have a good showing if they go to the MNC, Sparty will have to have a great showing in the Rose Bowl (hopefully they both somehow pull off a win), and the rest of our bowl teams have to have great showings or win. We need a winning bowl record, especially against SEC foes. I'm so sick of hearing how wide the gap is between the SEC and Big10...it is also bad for recruiting when kids are constantly reading Twitter and watching ESPN talk about how awesome every SEC team is even though it's pretty clear there are some pretty average teams in that conference.
I think those of you pulling against OSU and Sparty in their bowl games must live inside a B1G bubble of sorts, I live in SEC country and I must say I would much rather see every SEC team lose and the Big10 win to gain respect. The B1G is a laughingstock down here and needs to earn respect. Michigan (or any Big10 team for that matter) may not sniff another MNC if the perception of the B1G follows the path that the former Big East took. Our conference needs to look good if we ever want to be in the top 4 playoff discussion going forward. We don't want one B1G loss to keep us on the outside looking in. The Pac12 earned respect the past few years, even after USC's dominance, so can the B1G.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||something tells me that with||
something tells me that with the death of Funk's dad, and everyone seems to forget the death of Adam Stenavich's infant child, that their has been some real distraction between the o-line coaches.....obviously they should improve and it is not an end all excuse, but the death of Funk's dad happened the day of or after the MSU game, and it was almost like it just added to the already tragic death of Stenavich's son. The coaches do have real lives they deal with too. I however did see a little improvement against NWestern, hopefully it builds confidence.
I still have faith in this staff....although Borges makes me nervous.
Great point about the Kuglar family and how they probably did evaluate Funk's coaching.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||they will....but we have the||
they will....but we have the opportunity to play spoiler to a lot of OSU dreams, putting a massive chip on our shoulder
1. Spoiler to their perfect conference record (2 years running)
2. Spoiler to their (inflated) hopeful 24-0 record under Urban
3. Spoiler to their MNC hopes
We will also hopefully be defending Brady's perfect home record. Brady was here in the mid 90's, he knows what it feels like to ruin a few OSU dreams. If he can't get the team jacked up for this one, I don't know how he ever gets a team jacked up. Especially one that should have a massive chip on its shoulder.
OSU is good, but everyone knows they are not as good as their 20-0 record under Urban. Carlos Hyde, and our O-line are the only 2 things that really scare me. MSU's strength's played heavy to our weakness on the O-line. OSU's offensive strength will be a huge test for our D, but Devin will have more time to throw, and more open receivers than he did vs. MSU. I'm not expecting a -48 yards rushing and a 9 sack game for OSU (knock on wood). I see OSU as little better version of notre dame, pretty good front seven, not near as tenacious as MSU, lousy secondary. Where they have ND is the offense.
This UM team still has 4 games to show they can play somewhere near their talent level, and they should be hyped as ever for OSU assuming this coaching staff indoctrines them enough to have that hatred for OSU that Ohio and MSU clearly have for us.
GO BLUE! strive for 10-2! regardless of how hopeless it may look. I remember in 2011 how doubtful we were after the MSU game as well, maybe that was the spark the staff needed. (i understand this is not 2011).
|5 weeks 6 days ago||i am so jealous of Stanford,||
i am so jealous of Stanford, been saying it since last year when we were clearly struggling to be a Bo-Ball team (still am, still are)
I like your assesment about Shaw when he was coordinator...im somewhere between the "Fire Borges!" and Borges Apologist spectrum, I still think we need time to see what his players in his scheme can do. That obvioulsy leaves me worried thinking he will just continue to fail even with his players, and his developed line in a year or 2.
It seems like Hoke does not need to shy from philosophy, because, good God, look at Stanford. A team that was a 40 pt u-dog to USC in 2007, and look what they have become. If they can do it, surely we can with the right mix of coaches, scheme, and players.
It seems Hoke needs to fire up his offensive staff with some younger coordinators of similar philosophy to Shaw, Harbaugh, and Bo (obviously). I would love to see a young offensive guy either as a coordinator, line coach, or RB's coach who could be a primed O-coordinator or Coach in waiting when Hoke or Borges time is done. The last thing I want to see Michigan do is fire Hoke in a year or 2 and change overall philosophy again, we will just have another 3-5 years of pain. We would be a 'rinse and repeat has been' much like Notre Dame was for 20 years with all the coaching changes....What this program needs is continuity a-la Bo. Hopefully with a plethora of B1G champs, and some MNC's sprinkled in.
It would pain me a little to see Hoke fired in a couple years if we see much more of the same thru 2015 (because regardless of outcome, i love the guy), but if we did, we would need to go after a guy like Shaw to be our coach, not a guy like Art Briles or Pat Fitzgerald who would just need another 5 years to implement his philosophy. We will be stacked talent-wise by then with manballers.
Go Blue! Hope you watched Stanford last night!
|7 weeks 4 days ago||yep....Michigan's 40 years||
yep....Michigan's 40 years of consistent winning are all fraudulent.....
we have become RCMB...we have
|7 weeks 4 days ago||hoke also said he concerned||
hoke also said he concerned with consistency
|7 weeks 4 days ago||and we went 15-22, 8-16 in||
and we went 15-22, 8-16 in conference, were ranked 117 team defense, and clearly gave up in multiple games. Hokes teams have done none of the above
|7 weeks 4 days ago||we arent as good as OSU||
we arent as good as OSU yet....this isn't news...plus Hackenburg has 100,000 fans that want him to fail in this game. I understand the offensive woes we had, but it isn't like we tried to manball IU all game....hopefully Borges builds momentum off that game.
Also, college football is weird...you won't always win by as many points as you should. Ask OSU in 2011-2012
trust me..im a much bigger UM fan than a Hoke fan, and i do get frustrated with him as much as anyone, but the guy deserves time and he is much better than what we had before. I believe he will make adjustments this year. Please dont drive UM to become the next Notre Dame, we are on the right track and acquiring talent. Things are never as good (i.e. OSU tonight) or as bad as they seem (our debacles this year)
sorry for trolling against popular opinion around here. UM will be okay.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||this is a dumb comment.||
this is a dumb comment.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||c||
thank you...the readers on this blog were singing Hoke's praises a couple months ago and we all expected a team with some youth problems on the interior...now we've gone insane because we've missed a few field goals.
the team has improved since the debacles against uconn and akron. Hoke is a good coach. He turned 2 perennial losers into winners, it took a few years, but he did it by recruiting and coaching up players. We are seeing flashes of brillance from the players at times.....it will come together.
Nick Saban went 8-4, 10-3, 8-5 before going 13-1 in year 4 at LSU. We had so little elite talent when Hoke got here, and we are basically in year 1.5 of the pro offense. Give it a little time or we will be in the shitter again. Do you want to be the next Notre Dame!? Constantly turning over coaches?
Also, do you expect to win 3/4 NCs like bama? really? We are just jealous the media isn't slobbering over our coach and our program lie they do SEC schools and Oregon. Hoke has the same record that Lloyd had his first 3 years to this point with less talent overall. Give me a break.
The posts on this blog have gone to RCMB levels since the Penn State game.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||correct...my bad....never had||
correct...my bad....never had Hamm's thankfully.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||America has become so douchey||
America has become so douchey about its beers. I said it.
that being said, Indiana's defense = Ginny Light
|7 weeks 6 days ago||with the way the NFL is||
with the way the NFL is moving more and more towards spread passing O's with little guys like Welker becoming stars, i could see Gallon as a good fit in that kind of offense from the slot, especially because of his crisp routes and good hands. Hope the Patriots, Broncos, or Saints see some value in him in the mid to late rounds. Funchess looks like he could play anywhere, and he definitely has some speed. He is surely faster than the likes of Marquis Walker.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||it would be even better if||
it would be even better if Bama and Mizzou both lose a game (maybe Mizzou's monster receiver's gives the bama defense fits in SECCG), but Baylor, FSU, and Oregon all go undefeated (maybe even OSU, but obviously we don't want that). How in the world could the BCS justify keeping 2 undefeated, BCS conference, but non-SEC opponents out of the game? It would be a hilarious circus to watch the media and ESPN implode on that one.
I also bet my girlfriend (a Kentucky fan) $5.00 that no SEC team would be in the NCG this year. Being amongst UK football fans who brag about the SEC all the time, this would leave a glorious feeling inside for me.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I think most||
I think most reasonable people are pretty high on Stribling, including myself...and obviously Mattison loves the way he plays (i'm pretty high on Wilson as well). There are just a cold few that think he should automatically be awesome becuase he is getting a lot of playing time for a Mattison coached defense. I see him as a little underwieght right now, but his upside is huge, like Marlin Jackson huge. He clearly knows how to cover and be in position, something Raymon is struggling with.
I was reading the "touch the banner" blog and he listed Stribling as a player he would like to see less of, and Wilson as one he would like to see more of. Seriously? The two have had damn near identical seasons so far. Both have been in great position, but gotten outmuscled. Stribling just happened to give up 2 sure looking fantastic int's that turned into huge TD's for the other team, even though he did everything else correctly, and even Mattison acknowledges that. The guy is a solid freshmen CB. Remember when Countess looked so good all year then got beat a couple times vs. VaTech, maybe Stribling will have the reverse effect. This teams looks as solid for the CB position for the next 3-5 years as they have ever looked.
How quickly people forget Stribling was a no-name 2 star before Hoke and Brady got their hands on him. I trust this defensive staff knows how to coach players, and knows what players belong in the game in certain situations. They do watch every second of their film and their practices.
|9 weeks 19 hours ago||you seem to have a pretty||
you seem to have a pretty level head about this....clearly our conservative plan stemmed from our decent success against Minny, especially in terms of not turning the ball over. Al called a good game to put us up by 10 as well in the 2nd half.
this blog, including the posters has been incredibly dissapointing and might I say downright devisive at times...it's alright to disagree with, and question some calls, but to think you can usurp the coaches and overhaul the offense and the gameplans of professionals is simply absurd. If Brian or Ace were calling plays, we'd probably get beat by 40.
Hoke and Borges were playing odds based on the team's past performances (which is what a good coach would do), and based on Gibbon's and defense's past as well. Hoke thought we could hold em' (they made 2 downright amazing catches in that short drive), and then they figured we would be in good position with Gibbon's kicking (so did I), especially when the defense is doing their job in OT. Al also called the plays that scored us 17 points on offense (should have been 21 if not for Funchess' drop in the end-zone or Devin's helmet rolling off) coupled with a great defensive performance in 90% of the second half. You can't blame a whole half on one penalty, the punter still could have put the ball inside the 20, maybe 10 or 5.
We all, both manball supporters and not, feel the pain of our shitty running game, and you would be insane to think Al and Brady don't see it or don't care, they care more than all of us i'm sure because their well being actually depends on it. They just don't want to put the team in worse positions which is what Devin's TO's against Akron and Uconn did. He's given up 3 defensive TD's this year for God's sake. He also does not want to hurt Devin...remember that brutal hit he took in the 4th after the 1st down? Come back to earth people!
|9 weeks 1 day ago||great thread....i love your||
great thread....i love your levelheadedness. That being said, we are so used to instant gratification in our lives now, young and old...we sit idlely by and watch Bama (oversigning and Jucos) turn around and become a powerhouse after 1 year of mediocrity from Saban, and Urban take over 2 struggling programs (with full cupboards when he arrived) and turn them into title contenders.
Then we preach doing things the right way, which we are doing. We preach building a program by recruiting differently than Rrod, which we are also doing, and just going thru the growing pains of.
As a college football blue-blood, we cannot stand to watch a few others be national powers and creep up on some of our records. I still think Hoke will right the ship, he is smart, he recruiting better than anyone. He has shown he has more in-game clout than Lloyd with less talent overall. Our best players are young, 2010 has 10 recruits left who have mostly developed well under Hoke, our QB is rattled by our young line and only trusts our 2 tackles. Breathe guys.
We lost in a quadruple overtime game in the most hostile road environment of the Hoke era on the back of a couple bad coaching decisions that could have looked just fine if PSU's receivers hadn't made 3 consectuive outstanding plays where we were in position....we also missed 3 game-winners from our reliable kicker.
HIndsight is both liberating and frustrating...We are fine, we are growing.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||i must say...im as pissed off||
i must say...im as pissed off as anyone that isn't playing for or getting payed by the University of Michigan, but what I have read here tonight is RCMB level bullshit....yeah, the end sucked...but we did totally crap the bed in the1st half and still came storming back, Devin played very good in the second half too. There was obviously some questionable calls by the coaches, and Borges needs a good shalacking by the media, but this is Michigan, and we do not resort to garbage namecalling here. This is bullshit what i have read here. Calling for Hoke's head because he did once, wat Lloyd Carr did countless times. I'm sure Hoke will take away from it and learn and I'm sure he knows he fucked up a few times situationally.....plus, this team just aint all that good.
oh yeah....3 missed field goals as well...one of those hits, the bitching is cut down by 90%.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||this guy gets it...Hoke's||
this guy gets it...Hoke's losses are not purely because the difference home and away...that's part of it for sure, but it's harder to beat anyone on the road than at home for any coach. Hoke has had tough road losses against nat champ Bama (sort of road), #2 and 12-1 ND, #3 and 12-0 OSU, an 11-3 MSU that finished in the top 15, a 10-4 Nebraska team held to just 23 points with their super-offense by UM, and playing without our best player at QB/RB for the first time in over 2 years, a very good South Carolina team, and his lone duck of a road loss was Iowa...and we had lousy games, but wins against Akron and Uconn.
Hoke has lost to more talented, or more physical teams typically, and many happened to be on the road...those are two things he is fixing. All but Bama had a hell of a game too. Hoke has been good overall against teams with lesser talent and depth...knock on wood...Penn State overall has lesser talent and depth....Hoke should fix our road probs with time.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||I still don't get the Thomas||
I still don't get the Thomas Gordon hate...I understand Avery a little because he gets beat over the top sometimes...but what has Thomas Gordon let past him and not kept in front of him?...Mattison constantly says these safety's are doing there job of inside and in front.
Just because Gordon isn't some super ball-hawk doesn't mean he hasn't been a really solid tackler and safety. It isn't his fault that Avery and Taylor sometimes get beat on man-to-man coverage and that the linebackers don't get enough depth every time...but the safety's primary job in any defense in keep the play in front of you, don't let anyone run by you with the ball in their hands, he and Wilson have done that, remember 4th and 29 at Uconn?
I would much rather say I'm scared of Allen Robinson, because he is scary good....he is to Hackenburg what Braylon was to Henne.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||36-17 UM...hoke seems to well||
36-17 UM...hoke seems to do well against teams with obviously lesser depth/talent as he should, even on the road (almost forgot about Iowa, damn)....knock on wood...go blue.
frustrating at halftime, but we pull away...think 2011 Northwestern.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Big news, Michigan fires Hoke||
Big news, Michigan fires Hoke and brings in the first great co-head coach trio of Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, and Bret Bielema. Gettin the job done in style.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||30-9 michigan||
|11 weeks 20 hours ago||hopefully the added strength||
hopefully the added strength and size puts us in more 2nd and 5-8 yards instead of 2nd and 10-13. This should ease up things for Devin.
or hopefully Bryant was just the missing piece and Miller was the main culprit of our running woes.
I expect pass-protection to still be spotty in the middle...hope im wrong.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Tennessee I feel is a solid||
Tennessee I feel is a solid offense that has run into 2 straight fantastic defenses...and I know UVA beat BYU in their first game...i have no idea how many points they scored, but they beat them. But when I wathced Oregon's defense, they were clearly playing with another eschelon of speed.