Maybe it's a little easier for May to work through this since he was casting a wide net (We need everything) whereas Juwan was usually looking for a specific skill-set and had less options
Hmm, I'd say just the opposite - that May seems to have a clearer vision of what he wants from his team. In three weeks he's put together what looks like our most coherent roster in a few years.
The main thing that left me bummed about losing Sanderson was that it would probably cost us his son as a recruit. But seeing how May is working the portal, I’m not worried about that anymore.
As far as the actual S&C stuff goes, I suspect most of these coaches are interchangeable, really.
The narrative that admissions was making it impossible to succeed was always hard to swallow when our football program won a national title while facing the same standards.
In retrospect, hiring a coach who had no college experience at all (other than as a player) was a bad idea. Communicating with admissions is one of a number of things that simply don’t exist in the pros. I don’t think we’re going to run into too many more Shannon/Love-type situations.
The issue isn’t with all undergrad transfers. Freshmen and sophomores’ credits generally transfer without too much issue. The problem is mostly with upperclassmen. Credits in upper-level courses often don’t get accepted here. If they’re able to graduate, then we can take them as grad students.
The problem with Shannon and Love is that they were in that category of non-graduating upperclassmen. We were counting on them taking courses in the summer, for which their old schools didn’t have to pay (since they were in the portal). Meanwhile, other schools offered them admission on the spot. We shouldn’t have counted on them coming.
Year five is a little different than the others, though. A scholarship promise is normally for four years. May and Jace will probably have discussions about next year, if they haven’t already.
I think Meyer was forced out over the Zach Smith thing. As a courtesy (and to avoid the fanbase burning the school down), they called it a resignation.
I actually don’t think the 2017-20 period would have been that different. The narrative certainly would have been different, and Harbaugh’s honeymoon with the fanbase would have lasted longer, but our weak 2014 and ‘15 recruiting classes were going to catch up to us. The 2017 team just didn’t have many talented upperclassmen. Also, Don Brown was going to be found out. I think we’d have probably still lost the next few OSU games and found ourselves struggling to break through, similar to PSU post-2016.
PSU might actually be the program that most affected by us winning the Game in 2016. That would take away Franklin’s one Big Ten title, which might have left him on shakier footing and possibly hurt his recruiting.
An innocent person might flee the cops in the heat of the moment, but is unlikely to engage in this kind of premeditated act (gathering up a passport, disguise and thousands of dollars days after the murder occurred). Particularly an innocent person whose wife was just killed.
There wasn’t really anything bad about Jordan’s time with the Wizards. He was still a good player, just no longer at a GOAT level. But he was also several years younger than Brady is now.
Also: that he tried to flee the country (he had his passport and a disguise in the Bronco), which an innocent person almost certainly wouldn’t do. For some reason the prosecution never brought it up during the trial.
The Big Ten also went 0-fer in the 1990s, too, despite having at least six teams in the FF that I can remember:
-1992 Michigan
-‘92 Indiana
-‘93 Michigan
-‘97 Minnesota
-‘99 MSU
-‘99 OSU
The one time the conference got over the hump in the last 30+ years, 2000 MSU got to play an 8 seed and 5 seed in the Final Four. Can’t get that kind of draw too often.
I have no desire to pile on Howard (and respect how he has handled this) but to say that “admissions screwed him” overlooks that he made the choice to gamble, two years in a row, on transfer candidates that were uncertain to graduate. Moreover, he did so without any clear backup options in case they were denied. Those were choices he made.
If he was promised that Shannon/Love would be admitted, even if they didn’t graduate, then yes, I’d say he was screwed. But that seems very unlikely.
His roster management in general was not great (why recruit so few guards?). We brought in too many one-and-done players, which forced us to have to reload each offseason. Last summer we brought in three transfers and that still wasn’t sufficient for our roster needs. That really shouldn’t be the case for a program in a coach’s fifth year.
He may be better off in the pros where he can focus on coaching and let his GM handle player acquisition.
Anyway, that aside, we better be top 100 next year and I'd say making the tournament is 50/50.
Whoa there - we barely have anyone on the team right now. We're going to need several impact transfers to give us a competitive roster, and then we're going to have to hope they can mesh and become a team in a matter of months. Some patience is probably in order.
I think that's the view of most Michigan basketball fans. The OSU series matters mostly if both teams are good. And it had some extra juice when Trey Burke was here, since he was from Columbus. But most years, it's not that big of a deal. We beat them this year in Crisler, but it certainly didn't salvage the season.
I'm not sure why the OP is prioritizing that game above everything else. MSU, I could perhaps see.
He wasn't looking to leave a year ago. A guy who takes Florida Atlantic to the Final Four is going to have opportunities. The timing worked out for us.
I don't know why people use this as a defense of Rose. If I'm betting on my team to win on Saturday, that may affect how I manage on Thursday and Friday. I may rest key players those days to keep them fresh for Saturday, to increase my chances of cashing in. Gambling on your own team in any event can affect the integrity of the game.
Bill Martin's most significant impact (besides the Beilein hire) was in facilities. In practically every sport ours were outdated when he came in. He got a ton done there in his decade at the helm.
If you need to think this hard about a $25 donation, then don't bother. But IMO, it's not that much to contribute and may - nothing is ever guaranteed - help the team a bit.
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That team did have Manny Harris, DeShawn Sims and Epke Udoh. Problem was, they were basically the only scholarship-caliber players.
Hmm, I'd say just the opposite - that May seems to have a clearer vision of what he wants from his team. In three weeks he's put together what looks like our most coherent roster in a few years.
This shouldn't come up too often. Introductory courses generally will transfer over. It's upperclass credits that are more problematic.
There's a reason why Saban and Calipari went to those schools in the first place. They're bluebloods.
The main thing that left me bummed about losing Sanderson was that it would probably cost us his son as a recruit. But seeing how May is working the portal, I’m not worried about that anymore.
As far as the actual S&C stuff goes, I suspect most of these coaches are interchangeable, really.
Has he not graduated? He’s finishing up his fourth year right now.
The narrative that admissions was making it impossible to succeed was always hard to swallow when our football program won a national title while facing the same standards.
In retrospect, hiring a coach who had no college experience at all (other than as a player) was a bad idea. Communicating with admissions is one of a number of things that simply don’t exist in the pros. I don’t think we’re going to run into too many more Shannon/Love-type situations.
The issue isn’t with all undergrad transfers. Freshmen and sophomores’ credits generally transfer without too much issue. The problem is mostly with upperclassmen. Credits in upper-level courses often don’t get accepted here. If they’re able to graduate, then we can take them as grad students.
The problem with Shannon and Love is that they were in that category of non-graduating upperclassmen. We were counting on them taking courses in the summer, for which their old schools didn’t have to pay (since they were in the portal). Meanwhile, other schools offered them admission on the spot. We shouldn’t have counted on them coming.
Is this the first case of an Olympic athlete having (basically) the same name as the host city?
I suppose there might have been an athlete named London in 2012 or the other two times they hosted.
Year five is a little different than the others, though. A scholarship promise is normally for four years. May and Jace will probably have discussions about next year, if they haven’t already.
They could leave, but could also stay. May took FAU to the Final Four and then successfully convinced all of his starters to stay. At FAU!
If we land Goldin, I don’t think we’ll miss him that much.
But good for him.
I think Meyer was forced out over the Zach Smith thing. As a courtesy (and to avoid the fanbase burning the school down), they called it a resignation.
I actually don’t think the 2017-20 period would have been that different. The narrative certainly would have been different, and Harbaugh’s honeymoon with the fanbase would have lasted longer, but our weak 2014 and ‘15 recruiting classes were going to catch up to us. The 2017 team just didn’t have many talented upperclassmen. Also, Don Brown was going to be found out. I think we’d have probably still lost the next few OSU games and found ourselves struggling to break through, similar to PSU post-2016.
PSU might actually be the program that most affected by us winning the Game in 2016. That would take away Franklin’s one Big Ten title, which might have left him on shakier footing and possibly hurt his recruiting.
Unless you are actually Jim Harbaugh himself, I don’t know how you can state this for a fact.
The NFL was certainly a reason, and quite probably the biggest one, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have others.
I feel that this is still missing the larger point, which is that sign-stealing isn’t against the rules.
The alleged infraction relates to in-person scouting, which exists as a rule for financial reasons and not due to any perceived competitive advantage.
An innocent person might flee the cops in the heat of the moment, but is unlikely to engage in this kind of premeditated act (gathering up a passport, disguise and thousands of dollars days after the murder occurred). Particularly an innocent person whose wife was just killed.
There wasn’t really anything bad about Jordan’s time with the Wizards. He was still a good player, just no longer at a GOAT level. But he was also several years younger than Brady is now.
The 5-year clock actually starts once you take your first class.
Also: that he tried to flee the country (he had his passport and a disguise in the Bronco), which an innocent person almost certainly wouldn’t do. For some reason the prosecution never brought it up during the trial.
Wisconsin could well have beaten Duke in 2015.
It was a 3-point game when Burke got hit with the phantom foul on the block. We absolutely could have won.
And in 1976, two Big Ten teams played for the title.
The Big Ten also went 0-fer in the 1990s, too, despite having at least six teams in the FF that I can remember:
-1992 Michigan
-‘92 Indiana
-‘93 Michigan
-‘97 Minnesota
-‘99 MSU
-‘99 OSU
The one time the conference got over the hump in the last 30+ years, 2000 MSU got to play an 8 seed and 5 seed in the Final Four. Can’t get that kind of draw too often.
You seem to be suggesting that we had some kind of ceiling under Beilein. The man took us to the national title game twice.
Calipari took UMass and Memphis to the Final Four before UK. He's been an excellent (if a bit shady) coach throughout his career.
Cue. You're not putting it in the back of your playlist, you (the director) are giving the cue for it to be performed.
Meh, I think they've had worse. "He has deceptive speed. He's slower than he looks" always made me chuckle.
Although the capital of Alsace is spelled Strasbourg in French and Straßburg in German, his own family name is Strasburg.
I don't understand this. Our own fans didn't want to go to the game and they did. That's fair.
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We've been accused of cheating. Bit of a difference.
Well, they made the Final Four in 1992 and national championship game in 2002.
I have no desire to pile on Howard (and respect how he has handled this) but to say that “admissions screwed him” overlooks that he made the choice to gamble, two years in a row, on transfer candidates that were uncertain to graduate. Moreover, he did so without any clear backup options in case they were denied. Those were choices he made.
If he was promised that Shannon/Love would be admitted, even if they didn’t graduate, then yes, I’d say he was screwed. But that seems very unlikely.
His roster management in general was not great (why recruit so few guards?). We brought in too many one-and-done players, which forced us to have to reload each offseason. Last summer we brought in three transfers and that still wasn’t sufficient for our roster needs. That really shouldn’t be the case for a program in a coach’s fifth year.
He may be better off in the pros where he can focus on coaching and let his GM handle player acquisition.
Ian Gold?
He's a sophomore at Yale, so I think he should be OK. It's more the upperclass courses that are tough to transfer over.
Important distinction there.
(I also don’t think he snuck on the field, nor was he there to learn the signs. He was invited by CMU to share his sign knowledge to their staff.)
Hockey makes a profit, I believe.
He did finish the game. He quarterbacked our last two possessions, but we failed to score, turning it over on downs and throwing an interception.
I'm fairly certain Harbaugh guaranteed victory over OSU in 1986 with an eye towards the 2024 NFL Draft.
I don't know. No one hated Beilein or Jay Wright. Roy Williams seemed to be generally well-liked.
There seem to be a lot of jerks in the college basketball ranks, but disliking a coach isn't just out of jealousy, imo.
Whoa there - we barely have anyone on the team right now. We're going to need several impact transfers to give us a competitive roster, and then we're going to have to hope they can mesh and become a team in a matter of months. Some patience is probably in order.
I think that's the view of most Michigan basketball fans. The OSU series matters mostly if both teams are good. And it had some extra juice when Trey Burke was here, since he was from Columbus. But most years, it's not that big of a deal. We beat them this year in Crisler, but it certainly didn't salvage the season.
I'm not sure why the OP is prioritizing that game above everything else. MSU, I could perhaps see.
He wasn't looking to leave a year ago. A guy who takes Florida Atlantic to the Final Four is going to have opportunities. The timing worked out for us.
I don't know why people use this as a defense of Rose. If I'm betting on my team to win on Saturday, that may affect how I manage on Thursday and Friday. I may rest key players those days to keep them fresh for Saturday, to increase my chances of cashing in. Gambling on your own team in any event can affect the integrity of the game.
Last time football won the national championship, the hockey team ... just saying.
Bill Martin's most significant impact (besides the Beilein hire) was in facilities. In practically every sport ours were outdated when he came in. He got a ton done there in his decade at the helm.
That's going a little far. They scored 14 points. But against our banged-up offense, it was enough.
If you need to think this hard about a $25 donation, then don't bother. But IMO, it's not that much to contribute and may - nothing is ever guaranteed - help the team a bit.
Florida in the summer is absolutely gross.
California, yeah, I'd agree - at least on the coast. Inland, it's blazing hot in the summer.