chance of bowl: 13.6%
|1 day 13 hours ago||Your username is "2014" but||
Your username is "2014" but you joined in 2009? Weirding me out, man . . . You knew this was coming and didn't warn us!
|1 day 16 hours ago||Make it stop.||
Make it stop.
|1 day 16 hours ago||Contrary to what many believe||
Contrary to what many believe (including 80% of the people who write Christmas cards, it seems) plural nouns do not take apostrophes unless you are referring to them possessing something. Here are the answers to your questions:
I saw two Smiths.
The Smiths' beers.
(The -es addition is only for names that already end in -es or -ez, as in the Joneses or the Rodriguezes.)
|1 day 16 hours ago||I clicked on the "Cumong Man"||
I clicked on the "Cumong Man" link and saw this great photo:
We've got to get Gardner the chance to experience this feeling again. OSU last year was close but no cigar.
|1 day 17 hours ago||Terror attacks are a little||
Terror attacks are a little different than your garden-variety violent crime.
|2 days 17 hours ago||It's not as nonchalant as you||
It's not as nonchalant as you think. Under Carr (and I believe Bo and Mo as well), if MSU beat us, we'd hang an "MSU state champs" banner in the locker room - which wouldn't go down until we beat them.
|2 days 19 hours ago||Doubtful, given that we||
Doubtful, given that we played them in 2000 and won 14-0. We wouldn't wait two years to run up the score.
|3 days 12 hours ago||According to the 2002 box||
According to the 2002 box score, we had 35 points going into the fourth quarter and our final TD was scored by Tim Bracken, who carried the ball a total of 49 times in his Michigan career. Not really a prime example of running up the score.
|3 days 12 hours ago||Your notion of Michigan fans||
Your notion of Michigan fans being the trash-talkers in this rivalry does not jive with my experiences at all.
|3 days 12 hours ago||We dominated the 2003 game||
We dominated the 2003 game much more than the scoreboard showed. We were up 27-13 and driving when Navarre fumbled and it was returned for a TD - a huge swing that made the final score respectable.
Actually, almost exactly the same thing happened in the 4th quarter of the 2005 game as well. MSU tied it up on another defensive TD right when we were driving to put the nail in the coffin.
|3 days 17 hours ago||Maybe you're bringing bad||
Maybe you're bringing bad luck. We won three in a row there ('03, '05, '07) before you started coming.
|3 days 17 hours ago||I'm not sure how well you||
I'm not sure how well you remember those MSU teams. They completely mailed it in as the season went on. 2002 MSU lost 49-3 to us. As big as the disparity is between the teams now, I can't see us losing like that Saturday.
|3 days 17 hours ago||The football hire is at the||
The football hire is at the center of all this. It's much easier to justify super-high ticket prices if you have an elite coach. OSU's ticket prices are even higher than ours, IIRC.
|3 days 17 hours ago||If you read the post above,||
If you read the post above, the question was "Has MSU ever had a team as bad as ours in recent memory"?
Incidentally, they took us to OT in 2004 and 2005.
|3 days 17 hours ago||We gained 326 yards of||
We gained 326 yards of offense that day. It wasn't easy to move the ball, but not quite the struggle you're making it out to be.
|3 days 17 hours ago||MSU went 4-8 in 2002, 5-7 in||
MSU went 4-8 in 2002, 5-7 in 2004, 5-6 in 2005, and 4-8 in 2006, so take your pick.
|3 days 17 hours ago||Of course it'd save his job.||
Of course it'd save his job. But the indications are that he could never do this.
|3 days 17 hours ago||If Les Miles is sincere||
If Les Miles is sincere about wanting to come here, we've got to let go of the 20-year-old grudges and hire the guy if the Harbaughs don't work out. Les - even an aging version of himself - is a pretty nice fallback option.
|3 days 17 hours ago||FWIW, we were the underdog in||
FWIW, we were the underdog in 2005 and won.
|3 days 20 hours ago||2003 was one of the best||
2003 was one of the best Michigan teams on offense and defense (and placekicking) in the last 20 years. It just couldn't punt.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Hoke was a very good DL||
Hoke was a very good DL coach. In hindsight he may have benefitted from becoming a coordinator before being a HC, but there's no need to knock the job he did from 1995-02.
|3 days 20 hours ago||It was a clutch catch, but||
It was a clutch catch, but not a miracle. That kind of catch happens all the time.
Now, Roy Roundtree's catch against Northwestern later that year, that was miraculous.
|3 days 20 hours ago||The first two are misleading||
The first two are misleading because they include points scored in overtime. In regulation, it's
|4 days 11 hours ago||Therefore, having successful||
You accuse me of "ignorance" and then act like your imaginary example is representative of non-revenue athletes. Take another look at what our admissions standards actually are for non-revenue athletes, and what they actually are majoring in. I'll spoil it for you: the bulk of them would never have gotten admitted if it weren't for sports, and Sports Management and Communications is their most popular major.
Non-revenue athletes' academic credentials are generally better than those of the big three sports, I'll grant you, but still well below the student body average the large majority of the time. Don't act like they are offering the school some big educational benefit.
Giving scholarships to nonrevenue athletes is a quirky holdover from the days when tuition was cheap and it hardly mattered if a few kids got a free ride. It's now much harder to justify in the era of $50K out-of-state tuition. Giving them luxury facilities is even harder to justify. Title IX doesn't mandate that.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Division III sports are||
Division III sports are basically club teams. They bear little resemblance to D-I varsity sports.
|4 days 19 hours ago||Counterpoints||
There are many talented people in various endeavors who can't afford to go to college, but people with sub-standard academic credentials not only get admitted but get money because they can play an obscure sport. Is that fair?
Let's not kid ourselves. Scholarship athletes are 2% of the student body and mostly spend their time on the athletic campus, isolated from the larger community. Anyhow, non-revenue athletes are mostly white and upper-middle-class like the rest of the student body.
Why is that a good thing? Sports are far too overemphasized in our society today. Look at what they've done to generations of boys who thought athletics was their meal ticket and neglected their studies.
OK, but why do we need to give out scholarships for certain sports, and build them palatial facilities?
This does not require scholarships nor state-of-the-art facilities. For most of our school's history these sports had neither. Even football didn't have scholarships until the 1950s IIRC.
In other words, you don't have a daughter that loves field hockey. Not surprising, since few people follow field hockey.
No one is arguing this. What people are bothered by is that football ticket prices are continually increased to pay for non-revenue sports facilities.
Not like we are now. Non-revenue sports used to have to make do with merely adequate facilities instead of top-of-the-line ones.
Which suggests that Brandon's investments in these facilities is pointless.
No, let's get off our high horse and stop acting like these money-losing sports that no one follows are as important as football. It's one thing to field these teams, but when we start to treat them as equals to football, we end up with unsustainable $150 million athletic budgets that require football, basketball and hockey fans to pay exorbitant fees.
|4 days 19 hours ago||I don't agree with your||
I don't agree with your conclusion. Only 2% of U-M students are varsity athletes and non-revenue athletes are fewer still. The non-revenue athletes are in the same athletic bubble as the revenue ones, having closed practices at restricted facilities, and they are overwhelmingly recruited from high schools, meaning that the average student has little chance to participate - and thus has no incentive to get into shape. It's not like the average student can just walk up to a field hockey practice and take part.
Club sports, on the contrary, are true to the original spirit of intercollegiate athletics - they offer a chance to random students to join a team and participate, thereby reaping the benefits of regular athletic competition. They aren't a self-segregated little world away from the main student body.
BTW, women don't necessarily need more educational opportunities, given that they now make up 58% of all university students in the U.S., despite comprising only about 50% of the college-age population.
|4 days 20 hours ago||I think all starting division||
I appreciate that they work hard at their sports, but a lot of non-athletes work hard at various endeavors and don't get everything paid for either.
Nothing against wrestlers or other non-revenue athletes, but they frankly should be grateful for whatever partial scholarships they can get, given that their sports teams bring no discernible financial benefit to the university.
|4 days 20 hours ago||Except that a women's rowing||
Except that a women's rowing team is a bit more incidental to the well-being of the student body than, you know, a classroom building that has a functional heating/cooling system.
|6 days 17 hours ago||When it comes to the||
When it comes to the defensive side of the ball (as opposed to the offense), I do not give RR's staff much credit for the 2011 turnaround. Mattison related not long after his arrival that he pretty much had to teach his players how to properly analyze game film. Reading between the lines, the players didn't have a lot of good to say about the RR defensive braintrust either.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Izzo dresses up in a goofy||
Izzo dresses up in a goofy costume every year, usually reflecting the location of the Final Four for that season. (For instance, he dressed up as Davey Crockett when it was in San Antonio.) Whatever the costume, it seems like he is always the star of the show, not his players. I guess MSU fans are okay with it, but I wouldn't care for it.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Yes, it is incredibly||
The Minnesota game was 20 days ago. In the 24/7 news era that might seem like a long time but to a huge public university with set procedures to abide - and a new President who is gradually familiarizing himself with the school and its athletic department - it really isn't. Firing a man responsible for 29 sports teams and a $150 million budget is a major decision to make, and Schlissel strikes me as a pretty deliberative person. I think that is a good thing; I don't want our President making rash decisions and appearing to cave to public hysteria. It seems pretty clear where things are headed, regardless.
In the meantime we don't need to flip out. It's mid-October. There is time for things to get set in place. In recruiting parlance, this is the "dead period," and if you want to go after an NFL guy like Harbaugh, the dead period will continue through Christmas.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Why would the athletic||
Why would the athletic director appear at the School of Education commencement? Seems pretty random.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Stitt shouldn't be compared||
Stitt shouldn't be compared to Tressel at all. Tressel was an OSU assistant (under Earle Bruce) before he became Youngstown State's coach. That's a big difference. He knew their program and big-time football. He'd sold their program to recruits. Like Hoke, he was an ex-assistant "coming home" (though unlike Hoke, he'd won big). The one thing OSU fans knew they were getting in Tressel was a guy who absolutely knew the landscape in Ohio.
Stitt's a guy in the middle of nowhere, with no experience of major football anywhere, coaching future petrochemical engineers.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Those are secondary issues||
Those are secondary issues that would be aired much, much less frequently if the football team were successful. OSU is guilty of those same sins but the fans accept it as long as they win 10 games a season.
(Are people actually upset about Beyoncé saying "Go Blue"? I was impressed they managed to pull that off. The crowd ate it up when it happened.)
|6 days 20 hours ago||Last Saturday night, 113,000||
Last Saturday night, 113,000 fans turned out to see a 2-4 Michigan team, and though the team trailed for much of the game, the fans were overwhelmingly supportive. Toxic atmosphere?
|6 days 20 hours ago||No school is ever screwed for||
No school is ever screwed for 10-15 years because of one hire. Hire the right guy and things are rectified pretty quickly.
|6 days 20 hours ago||We know that Bacon believes||
We know that Bacon believes that, but he could be wrong. He certainly has his reasons to want Brandon out.
|6 days 20 hours ago||Key distinction||
Chip Kelly was hired as Oregon's OC, and then a few years later was promoted to head coach. He wasn't hired cold out of New Hampshire to take over the head job.
|6 days 22 hours ago||Yes, nothing sells 110,000||
Yes, nothing sells 110,000 tickets like the hiring of a Division II coach.
He's not the football version of Beilein. Beilein had coached at three different D-I schools before Michigan and taken each to the NCAA tournament.
Nor is he Jim Tressel, the other shoehorned comparison. Tressel, prior to coaching at YSU, was an OSU assistant in the 1980s - an important thing to remember. He knew what big-time football was.
Stitt is a guy comfortably at a low level of football - 14 years at the same tiny school - that's it.
|6 days 23 hours ago||I don't know if he has any||
I don't know if he has any regrets. He'll retire a legend in East Lansing regardless of what happens from here on out. Jud Heathcoate was much less successful overall than Izzo, but he's still revered there for riding Magic Johnson's coattails to a title. Izzo has done a lot more than that and will be a hero there forever.
|6 days 23 hours ago||I don't believe that about||
I don't believe that about Beilein. Everything I've heard suggests Brandon was always in his corner. He could have fired him during the 2010 offseason (after the 15-17 season) but instead publicly came to his defense ("If I were to fire John Beilein, I'd have to find another coach just like him" - paraphrased).
|6 days 23 hours ago||or you know....13-13 with out||
So if we cherry-pick Hoke's record to just count the games when Gardner/Morris has started, he has the same record as Chryst. You take that to be an endorsement of Chryst?
|1 week 9 hours ago||I'm not sure he's really||
I'm not sure he's really changed that much. I remember him whining about Erazem Lorbek's departure for a few years.
What has changed is that there is a viable in-state competitor now.
|1 week 9 hours ago||One more piece of advice for DB:||
Please refrain from watching game film with coaches - and generally, avoid doing anything that might possibly be off-putting to an A-list coach. They are more valuable than you are.
|1 week 9 hours ago||And the Great Pumpkin would||
And the Great Pumpkin would have visited your pumpkin patch, but it wasn't sincere enough.
|1 week 14 hours ago||You are aware that our||
You are aware that our athletic department is completely independent financially of the University, right?
|1 week 17 hours ago||Such a bittersweet memory.||
Such a bittersweet memory. If only we could have closed out those 3:51 at the end of the half better.
|1 week 17 hours ago||We didn't make the tournament||
We didn't make the tournament in 1991. The Final Fours were in '92 and '93.
|1 week 17 hours ago||They risk losing the respect||
They risk losing the respect of the vast majority that doesn't care about U-M athletics. Sports have little to do with their mission. If I weren't a U-M fan I don't think I'd look favorably on a Regent that aired some dirty laundry on an outgoing administrator. That would make the school look pretty dysfunctional.
I'd like to see him relieved of his duties, but it should be done with a measure of decorum.
|1 week 17 hours ago||Brandon has a lot of money||
Brandon has a lot of money already, and has actually donated most (if not all) of his U-M salary back to the school/AD. I don't think that's a big motivation for him.
I'd imagine that Brandon badly wants to avoid being fired as that would not only hurt his pride but also damage whatever political ambitions he may still have (he once mulled a run for governor). Right now I think he wants to keep his job, but if/when it becomes inevitable that he's gone, he'll resign.
|1 week 18 hours ago||I think you may be||
I think you may be overestimating how much of a "disliked poilitcal adversary" Brandon actually is. He elicits strong feelings from a small slice of the electorate. The rest (including many U-M alumni) are indifferent.
|1 week 18 hours ago||Henne gets praised as||
Which means "Probably better than Navarre," since Big John was the only starting QB in between them.
|1 week 1 day ago||Orson loves to slip in the||
Orson loves to slip in the Woe-is-me-as-a-Florida-fan bit in his articles, but I just can't feel too bad for a school that has won two national titles in football and two more in basketball over the past decade (and they've won a third national title in football within the past 20 years).
|1 week 1 day ago||The "Michigan turned on its||
The "Michigan turned on its own" story has become like a game of telephone, becoming more and more outlandish with each retelling.
Let's be clear: The vast majority of the Michigan fanbase did not do what you are suggesting. They were behind RR. For that matter, most ex-players were as well. There was a very vocal faction of ex-players that didn't like him, but they weren't as large a group as people think - and Bill Martin ignored them anyway.
|1 week 1 day ago||RR was pretty open about his||
RR was pretty open about his faith. So was Barwis - remember the "Glory to God" t-shirts Brock Mealer sported. This is common in sports - Hoke and Beilein are also devout Christians - although Michigan tends not to broadcast too much of that to the general public. The locker room video clips we see of Michigan basketball always cut out the team's postgame prayer, for instance.
|1 week 1 day ago||The speech in this video is||
The speech in this video is pretty much something you'll hear in many locker rooms across the country. Religion is often a big part of organized sports.
|1 week 1 day ago||But that's not what Seinfeld||
But that's not what Seinfeld was talking about. He was talking about how you don't really root for indivdual players but "the team" in the abstract. When a player leaves your team, he becomes "the enemy" even though you cheered your heart out for him.
I'd say this is even more the case in pro soccer because most clubs go through massive player turnover on an annual basis. Having a player under contract is no guarantee of anything in soccer, other than that you'll receive some transfer fee. Year after year the big clubs make offers for stars that the little clubs can't refuse.
|1 week 2 days ago||They definitely don't always||
They definitely don't always do it, because a lot of schools don't pipe in music between 3rd and 4th downs at all.
|1 week 2 days ago||We're 3-4 in 2014. We don't||
We're 3-4 in 2014. We don't know that this season will end up like 2008.
|1 week 2 days ago||Punt plays don't take 25||
Punt plays don't take 25 seconds. Calling a timeout then would have made a lot of sense. You give yourself one final possession to throw a couple deep balls.
|1 week 2 days ago||The NFL-to-college list is||
The NFL-to-college list is missing a couple of big names: Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier.
|1 week 3 days ago||Devin was going to be your||
This was not known at the time. He was listed as a junior in 2012.
|1 week 3 days ago||And we've got a double-post.||
And we've got a double-post.
|1 week 3 days ago||Triple-post. Woo!||
|1 week 3 days ago||The other thing was that at||
The other thing was that at that point, we didn't know if Gardner would be granted a medical redshirt for 2010, so he was potentially only going to have one year to see the field as a starter if he didn't switch positions.
|1 week 3 days ago||Problem is, they pulled off||
Problem is, they pulled off those upsets almost exclusively at home.
|1 week 4 days ago||I don't know how feasible||
I don't know how feasible Shaw is, but I'd like our head coach to make a run at his defensive coordinator (Lance Anderson). Stanford hasn't given up more than 28 points in a game in two years, despite playing in the most offense-friendly conference. Anderson's in his first year (replacing Derek Mason, who is now Vanderbilt's HC) but he's schooled in their system and is carrying the torch now. Stanford's giving up 10 points per game.
|1 week 4 days ago||If not for the health issues,||
If not for the health issues, I'd want him. He's a great coach for Minnesota - if he can keep the seizures under control.
|1 week 4 days ago||Iowa fans should stop||
Iowa fans should stop complaining about Ferentz. The guy's won over 110 games at a school in the middle of a bunch of cornfields. Yeah, he's boring and conservative and blah blah blah, but they are much more likely to get a downgrade in their next hire than an upgrade.
|1 week 4 days ago||Yeah, who'd ever want to||
Yeah, who'd ever want to coach the winningest school in history, with the largest stadium, great academics, great colors/helmet/fight song, largest alumni base in the country, and a national recruiting draw?
We have developed an inferiority complex. Enough with the negativity. As our own head coach stated in January 2011, "This is an elite job, and will continue to be an elite job." We just need our athletic director to be smart about filling it.
|1 week 4 days ago||This game made me pretty||
This game made me pretty happy that PSU no longer has Bill O'Brien as coach. That guy scared the crap out of me. An experienced Hackenberg in his system would have been a monster.
I'm fine facing James Franklin for the next however many years.
|1 week 4 days ago||You were impressed with our||
You were impressed with our defense against Notre Dame, Minnesota and Rutgers?
|1 week 4 days ago||PSU is a good defensive team.||
PSU is a good defensive team. They held the Rutgers squad that torched us to 10 points and intercepted Nova five times. This is not really the game I'd use to indict our offense, especially with our leading rusher out and our QB hobbled.
|1 week 6 days ago||Man, we haven't even hired||
Man, we haven't even hired next year's staff and you're bashing it already?
|1 week 6 days ago||I can believe this, although||
I can believe this, although the timeframe seems a bit quick. I personally suspect Brandon lasts the rest of the season and then is let go.
|1 week 6 days ago||Sorry to be that guy, but||
Sorry to be that guy, but plural nouns don't have apostrophes. Advertisers, jerseys, etc.
|1 week 6 days ago||Hiring GERG was part of the||
Hiring GERG was part of the problem. The other part was insisting that he run the 3-3-5, which he did not know how to run effectively, If GERG had been left alone to run his preferred 4-3 scheme, we might not have been quite as bad. His Texas defenses were decent.
|1 week 6 days ago||But you have to remember, PSU||
But you have to remember, PSU was an independent at this time, whereas the Big Ten was in its heyday. Michigan would have definitely been the more prestigious program. JoePa just happened to be settled where he was and not ready to leave.
|1 week 6 days ago||Who was going to be RR's DC||
Who was going to be RR's DC in 2011? Was Tony Gibson still going to coach DBs?
Ay, there's the rub.
2011 was the fortuitous marriage of an exisiting offensive system, left behind from a staff that understood offense but not defense, and a new staff that understood defense but not offense. I don't think either RR or Hoke could have pulled it off alone.
|1 week 6 days ago||I feel a bit like Charlie||
I feel a bit like Charlie Brown expecting Lucy to hold the football down this time, but I think we'll win. This is pretty much the ultimate "wounded animal" situation, and good things happen when Michigan plays under the lights (as long as there hasn't been a 2.5 hour lightning delay) - PSU '02, MSU '04, PSU '05, and of course the two ND games.
|1 week 6 days ago||What do you base that on? I||
What do you base that on? I thought the team played pretty hard last Saturday at Rutgers.
|2 weeks 16 hours ago||He did it a few times||
He did it a few times actually. Carr scored a TD in the '95 MSU game.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||And he scored on every carry.||
And he scored on every carry. What a monster.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hoke has been a head coach||
Hoke has been a head coach for over a decade now. It's awfully hard to imagine him accepting a monster demotion to DL coach.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I agree with this in general,||
I agree with this in general, but if you've already bought tickets, the money has already changed hands. If you boycott, that only costs them money if you're someone who buys things at the concessions.
Anyway, there is a lot of smoke that Brandon is out regardless.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, he might be John||
Yeah, he might be John Beilein circa 1992 (when he went to Canisius) or maybe 1997 (when he went to Richmond) but to compare him to Beilein in 2007, after he'd been to the NCAA tournament several times and was an overtime away from the Final Four? That's a major reach.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||11,000 students and alumni||
11,000 students and alumni signing a petition calling for the ouster of a University representative is a big deal, almost certainly much more significant in the eyes of the Regents than a 2-minute "boycott" by a group that regularly shows up late anyway.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Man, you're starting to sound||
Man, you're starting to sound unhinged here.
There are plenty of reasons to be upset with Brandon but this is really grasping at straws. This thread is confirmation bias at work.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||As important as our football||
As important as our football program is, I take issue with the notion that the head football coach is the "face of the university."
|2 weeks 2 days ago||He'd instantly become my||
I take it you are well-versed on the subject of U-M Presidents?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Seriously - this isn't a||
Seriously - this isn't a tailgate party. The President of the University of Michigan is inviting you to meet him. Please supress your inner brah for a couple of hours and act with a bit of decorum.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I really doubt that'd happen.||
I really doubt that'd happen. A head coach at Michigan is not going to leave for MSU or vice-versa. In fact, I don't think a head coach at Michigan will ever leave for another college program, period.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You can't force a guy to||
You can't force a guy to never leave your business for another business. At most there'd be a special buyout, but for an assistant coach I'd doubt it.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||If recruiting is your||
If recruiting is your concern, you should want Hoke to finish the season. We're not going to hire Hoke's replacement in October. Firing him now means we simply won't have a head coach until December.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||If they play nothing but||
If they play nothing but ear-splitting music, how will that go over with the blue hairs?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||the visual of an empty||
Why would it be powerful when it happens at every school pretty much every week? Most viewers will either not notice or not think anything of it.
Conversely, going to the game early and chanting various anti-AD messages is impossible to ignore.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||How would that differ from||
How would that differ from the many other times we've had half-empty student sections at kickoff?
The main point of a boycott is to engage in behavior contrary to what you'd normally do. Our students have a reputation for showing up late as it is so this would just be following their normal M.O.
If you really want to hit Brandon hard, come to game early and chant anti-Brandon stuff for hours. (But again - it probably doesn't actually matter at this point.)
|2 weeks 4 days ago||If John U. Bacon is to be||
If John U. Bacon is to be believed, Brandon is gone regardless, so this may not be necessary.
I don't really see the point in "boycotting the kickoff" and then coming in right after, either. This would just mean that the student section will be full most of the game and most viewers won't have any idea your "boycott" happened.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I grew up in Oakland County||
I grew up in Oakland County (not Rochester itself, but not far away) and many people made that drive every football Saturday. Telegraph Road and 696 were always full of cars with drivers decked in Michigan gear.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Minnesota is different.||
Minnesota is different. College football is considerably more of a fringe sport over there than here. They have a 50,000-seat stadium and struggle to fill it up - and they are the only D-I program in the state.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||It's about time to trade||
It's about time to trade Ausmus to Houston again.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Other states||
The large Florida fanbase in New England surprises me. What explains that?
Minnesota is interesting as well. They really are apathetic there - the Gophers are struggling to get above 10% support in most countries, and Wisconsin has basically annexed large portions of the state - including Minneapolis!
Arizona and Mississippi are other weird ones. In most states the flagship school has the larger fanbase and the agricultural school is stuck in a little area, but there it's the opposite.
Finally, did UNC fans boycott this? They don't show up anywhere in North Carolina.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I know Brian's got a fixation||
I know Brian's got a fixation with him, but when you're 50 years old and not only still in D-II but have been at the same D-II school for 14 years, something doesn't add up. Either something about him is scaring off potential employers or he just doesn't want the limelight.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||If a football coach is the||
If a football coach is the face of the university. that's a problem in itself. We're now on our second inarticulate coach in a row and third in the last four (don't forget Moeller), but the University is doing fine.
I don't follow your recruiting argument. Recruiting is more competitive in the SEC than here. Only OSU and PSU can go toe-to-toe with us in recruiting, and we (under normal circumstanceS) often win recruiting battles with them.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||He has been insanely||
You can have one lucky year, but a lucky decade? At some point you've got to accept that it can't just be a fluke.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||But then it could be argued||
But then it could be argued that the benching lit a fire under the guy. He was awful against Utah.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||That may have something to do||
That may have something to do with the number of Power 5 football programs in the state of Wisconsin.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I'm not sure how much that||
I'm not sure how much that applies in Miles's case. He may be almost the same age as Carr in 2007 but sure looks a lot younger. He's also more of a CEO-style head coach than a hands-on guy like Harbaugh. I think coming to Michigan could rejuvenate him.
As for game management, yeah he isn't perfect, but if we get to a point where we're a couple of coaching decisions away from 12-0, I won't complain. Not after this.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Conduct an actual coaching||
Whom could we realistically get that is better than a coach of an SEC powerhouse with a national championship ring on his finger?
|2 weeks 6 days ago||He's got 3 or 4 years||
What exactly do you base that on? Do you know something about his health or just think that all coaches have to retire at 65?
|2 weeks 6 days ago||If he'd have come in '07, our||
If he'd have come in '07, our bowl streak would still be going on.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I wanted him in '07 and I'd||
I wanted him in '07 and I'd take him now.
Yeah, I know about the grayshirting and it's unsavory - but I don't think he'd do that here. The SEC is just a different environment.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||season ticket waiting list||
Where did this claim come from? I've seen it posted it here multiple times and it's completely out there.
There might have been 10,000 people on the waiting list at one point under Carr. Neither I nor anyone I know ever had to wait more than a couple of years. Since the introduction of PSLs there has effectively been no waiting list at all.
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||Another positive for Brandon||
Another positive for Brandon is that he's allotted considerably more money for assistant coaches in football and basketball than previous ADs did. We used to have a reputation as a very cheap athletic department that would get outbid for coaches' services. That's not an issue anymore.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||Are you implying that Goodell||
Are you implying that Goodell is the reason the NFL makes money?
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||Suspend your personal||
Suspend your personal affection for Brian for a minute. Say there was a candidate on the ballot - a guy you don't know at all - whose accomplishments were founding an obscure comedy newspaper and writing a sports blog. Would you, in good conscience, check his name for Regent of the state's flagship university?
I don't think this is a great idea.
|3 weeks 20 hours ago||Brandon hired Hoke one week||
Brandon hired Hoke one week after firing RR. I'm not sure that week really mattered that much.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||And of course Three and Out||
And of course Three and Out is the divine truth, delivered from Heaven above to John U. Bacon atop Mount Sinai.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Aïe||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That was 2000. Purdue and||
That was 2000. Purdue and Northwestern were frustrating but the latter would have been a win if not for an inexplicable fumble. The UCLA loss came when Henson was injured, the freshman Navarre was a mess and Epstein had a rough day placekicking - can't really pin that one on Lloyd.
Lloyd remains the only Michigan coach in the last 65 years to win the national title. That fact cannot not be downplayed.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Do we have the facts to look||
Do we have the facts to look at? Or do we have Rich Rodriguez's account of what went down, as told to John U. Bacon?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||And if Rich agrees to leave||
And if Rich agrees to leave said DC alone.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||The great irony there is that||
The great irony there is that even though Carr hated Miles, Miles was more likely to preserve a significant chunk of Carr's staff than anyone else.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||No way. This isn't like Drew||
No way. This isn't like Drew Sharp having an ax to grind against Carr. Hoke actually gets along with most reporters on an individual basis and is pretty forthcoming about things that aren't directly relating to team strategy/injuries.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||He's not a dictator. He||
He's not a dictator. He doesn't have the clout to do that.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Alabama's Bryant-Denny||
Alabama's Bryant-Denny Stadium has a capacity of 101,000.
Anyway, to say that we don't have recruiting advantages over most other schools is crazy. We consistently land highly-regarded classes despite not being located in a talent-rich state.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||At this point in 2010, this||
At this point in 2010, this community was 99.9% pro-RR. It was even about 97% pro-GERG. There were a small number of people criticizing GERG but RR himself seemed untouchable. That didn't change until after the PSU game.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Agree||
I'm in favor of a housecleaning, but I'm suffering from outrage fatigue at this point.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Where are people getting||
Where are people getting these figures from? Someone claimed 200,000 the other day. I can't imagine the waiting list was ever close to six figures. I don't know if it was even five figures. I was on it for two years after my graduation and then got tickets, and that was during the Carr era.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Calm down dude. Sumlin's||
Calm down dude. Sumlin's feelings aren't going to be hurt by what someone on another school's message board wrote.
Even if that 2010 season deserves an asterisk, we're talking about a guy who had only two other years of head coaching experience at the time, at a program that had been in good shape before he got there. It would have been pretty cool if Brandon would have had the foresight to hire him, but I don't know how many big-name programs would have done so at that point. It was the following season that made him a hot commodity.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Sumlin's offense is very||
Sumlin's offense is very different from RR's - much more passing-centered. I'm not sure Denard would have looked much better than he did under Borges.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Only if Sumlin could have||
Only if Sumlin could have gotten him to drastically improve as a passer.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||What track record did he||
What track record did he have? BSU and SDSU don't recruit blue-chippers, and he'd managed to send a few guys to the NFL. The argument that players don't develop under his watch is pretty recent.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||In the U.S., the custom had||
In the U.S., the custom had been to give the incumbent party blue and make the challenger red on the electoral maps, which is why it was blue for the Democrats and red for GOP in 2000. But that election was so narrow and spawned so much debate that the notion of "red states" and "blue states" came up afterward.
You're right that in most places it's red=left-wing and blue=right-wing.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Guys, if you bought a ticket,||
Guys, if you bought a ticket, you're counted in the attendance. They take the number of tickets sold and add in the people in the press box and the various other people at the stadium. They don't actually count the number of tickets scanned (or if they do, it's not announced publicly).
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Double-post||
Poor execution on my part.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||That was admirable. But RR||
That was admirable. But RR slipped up two years later and played a most-likely concussed QB.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I don't know, but RR actually||
I don't know, but RR actually was involved in a similar situation last year, or the year before (I forget), where he left in his Arizona QB despite a possible head injury. I don't remember if he caught flack for that or not. (The QB ended up throwing the game-winning pass following the head injury.)
To be honest, there probably are quite a few coaches who have been guilty of this kind of negligence at one time or another. That doesn't make it okay, but the fact that Hoke basically has no support (for football reasons) is making it easier for this to be a feeding frenzy.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Just so we are clear here:||
Just so we are clear here: are you in any way saying that you'd be displeased with a John Harbaugh hire? We could hire a man who's won at the highest level of the sport (something no active college football coach can boast) and you'd turn up your nose?
I don't think it'd happen, but if Brandon somehow pulls that rabbit out of a hat I'll let him do all the marketing crap he wants.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||This is a reason to pull the||
This is a reason to pull the plug on the guy now. Let him walk out with some of his coaching reputation intact. If we go 1-6 or whatever the rest of the way, his record at Michigan will look horrible.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Even if there were a case, in||
Even if there were a case, in football terms, to be made for Hoke's retention (which there is not), there is no case in economic terms. We are at the same point we were in January 2011 after the Gator Bowl, where the fanbase is simply done with the guy and he is an actual liability when it comes to the product's image. Next year, even with the much better home schedule, there is no way we can even Groupon our way to 100K per game - people are done with the program as long as he's in charge.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Paying him this bonus||
Now it makes sense. Hoke can't devote the kind of energy to the job he needs to succeed because he's moonlighting on the country/western circuit.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||RR's third season ended with||
RR's third season ended with losses of 20, 30, and 38 points. The team quit on him, the fans quit on him, and the recruits were turning him down.
There were two huge factors behind the turnaround in 2011: the hiring of a competent defensive staff, and the elimination of media pressure over the coach's job status. Those two things don't happen if RR stays. Another year of him means the players have to spend another 12 months in a negative media environment, hearing about how their coach will get fired if they don't win, and they almost certainly won't have a DC of Mattison's caliber coaching them because 1) RR is a dead man walking (so why work with him?) and 2) Gibson and the other position coaches need someone they're "compatible" with, anyway.
The 2011 season was the perfect transition from one failed regime that knew how to coach only offense with another that knew how to coach only defense. Neither staff could have put 2011 together by themselves.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||A year after Bo's death, we||
A year after Bo's death, we beat Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow in their backyard. The program is bigger than Bo.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||This is like comparing Amaker||
This is like comparing Amaker vs. Ellerbe. One might be better than the other but neither was the right guy to lead the program. Basketball got it right on the third try. Hopefully football will as well.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Carr doesn't work for||
Carr doesn't work for Brandon,. if that's what you're insinuating. In fact, he retired not long after Brandon took over.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Really 12 points, since they||
Really 12 points, since they scored seven themselves.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||One of the very best Simpsons||
One of the very best Simpsons episodes ever. The Gummi Venus de Milo . . . classic.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I believe that was the first||
I believe that was the first time they were deployed in a celebratory fashion.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I'm suprised you left out the||
I'm suprised you left out the "Al Borges issues" one. I'm not sure where they were going with that.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Thus far in his career Morris||
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||If true, this makes me think||
If true, this makes me think Gardner has an arm injury. Watching him try to throw downfield last week, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. And a coaching staff fighting for its life is not likely to move a healthy QB to another position in midseason.
(EDIT: sounds like there's more buzz about a foot injury. If so I don't really get how he'd be able to play WR then.)
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||He had 16 receptions for 266||
He had 16 receptions for 266 yards (16.6 avg) and 4 TDs in eight games in 2012. I do remember him having trouble catching balls in traffic though, but that might have come with time. I think he had the potential to be really good if he'd stayed there. Now, having gone back to QB for two years, he'd be pretty raw.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||We drove inside KSU's 10-yard||
We drove inside KSU's 10-yard line three times in that game, punched one in, and made the other two chip shots. I'm not sure how you could objectively say that was worse than ND or Utah, when we never drove any closer than the 23-yard-line in the two games combined, and could do no more than attempt three long field goals.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||"Morris Klan"? If you're||
"Morris Klan"? If you're insinuating that there is a racial angle to this, that's pretty low.
Gardner isn't performing at the moment. I suspect he isn't healthy, but whatever the case, the level of QB production we are getting is disastrous. Whether Morris, with a week of preparation, can give us the spark we need to rectify things remains to be seen. But you have to put sentimentality aside in any case. When a team can't get into the opposing red zone once in two games against legitimate competition, the QB's job status absolutely should be in question.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||Give Morris a little credit.||
Give Morris a little credit. You make him sound like a delicate flower to be kept under glass. He's a sophomore now, and has already started a game (and didn't look all that bad in it) in his career.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||In 2012, Gardner caught 16||
In 2012, Gardner caught 16 passes for 266 yards (16.6 avg.) and 4 TDs in half a season - not too shabby. That's not to say that he'd be able to pull off the switch just like that, in midseason, but he could have been an excellent receiver if he'd stayed there.
|4 weeks 18 hours ago||We drove into the red zone||
We drove into the red zone three times against KSU and scored 14 points - a TD and two FGs. We didn't reach the red zone once in the latter two games.
|4 weeks 18 hours ago||Actually he did. The rain||
Actually he did. The rain went from a little drizzle to a downpour the last couple of minutes before the game was suspended - which is right when Morris came in.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Nitpicking, but for RR I'd||
Nitpicking, but for RR I'd say #2 was PSU '10.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Everything I've heard||
Everything I've heard suggests we did, in fact, contact Harbaugh (who apparently had some interest but his family not so much). If we didn't offer, it was only in a literal sense of us not actually giving him a contract to sign.
Miles though probably was not offered.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Not showing up to the game is||
Not showing up to the game is pointless. Brandon's bosses (the President and Regents) do not care how many no-shows there are. Most of them don't follow sports. What they care about is the bottom line. If season tickets aren't being sold and donors not giving, that's where it hits the AD. But that's not what the original poster is suggesting. He/she is asking people who bought tickets already to not use them, which punishes no one but the ticketholder (and the team).
|4 weeks 3 days ago||OK tough guy - if I do this,||
OK tough guy - if I do this, you want to give me a refund for my two tickets (which cost a bit more than two Cokes) and one-seventh of the PSL I paid?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Ugh||
Embarrassing. This has become a clown show.
At this point I don't care how involved Brandon personally was in this latest fiasco. There have been far too many under his watch. I'm done.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I don't know if Shane is the||
I don't know if Shane is the answer, but given the monsoon-like conditions out there, I can't read too much into his stats. It was raining really, really hard when he threw that INT - there was no way he could have had a good grip there. (The officials waited a really long time to suspend play. I saw about five lightning flashes before they finally made their decision.)
In terms of mobility, I don't think there is much difference between the two right now. I don't know if Gardner is injured or just tentative, but he looks slower than before. As for Morris. I think he can move pretty well.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||And in '04 we beat the other||
And in '04 we beat the other co-champ head to head (Iowa), so we were the true representative.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||No.||
First, I think the staff has a right to finish the season. Let's see if they can make lemonade out of lemons. Am I optimistic about that? Not especially, but I'll give them that chance.
Second, I really don't want an interim head coach. Interim coaches have a tendency to perform over their head during that trial period (when the players adopt an "Us against the world" mindset), only to settle to their level of incompentence after (see: Brian Ellerbe). The easiest way out in any coaching search is to promote from within, but very frequently that doesn't work out. If we have to change head coaches, let it be a nationwide search, with no default option.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I'm sad that this||
I'm sad that this conversation has come up. I've really pulled for the guy and he's certainly gone through a lot in his time here. But he doesn't look like a guy with 20-some starts under his belt. He's struggling to make pretty basic throws and his footwork and throwing motion are all over the place. I don't know how much of that you can pin on the OC/QB coach change; there aren't that many different ways to teach a guy how to throw a football. I've got to believe it's a mental thing, but it's odd to see from such an experienced player.
As a runner, too, something seems wrong. He looks a step slower than before, and getting to the corner seems a lot tougher for him. I don't know if that's him being tentative or having some kind of injury, but he doesn't seem like the same runner as before.
Finally, I wonder about him as a leader of the huddle. Does he inspire the same kind of confidence Denard did? Can he rally his teammates to lay it all on the line? The QB has to be able to do that. It seems like this offense gets into funks and then can't snap out of it. The D still seems to play with a lot of fire, but I'm not seeing this from the O.
Does this mean he should be benched? I don't know. Morris looks talented but very, very raw - though he's got that gunslinger's confidence that Gardner once had. If Gardner can find that back, he's the guy, but I don't know if he can.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Actually, Shane's turnover||
Actually, Shane's turnover rate is very similar to Denard's when he was a backup QB. Denard threw four picks in 31 attempts in 2009. Not sure you can really evaluate these guys based on brief mop-up duty.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||All three could happen, but I||
All three could happen, but I don't think any is set in stone at the moment, and their timetable (Hoke out, then Brandon) doesn't make sense. And Miles? Not going to happen.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I don't think Carr has been||
I don't think Carr has been employed by the AD since 2010.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||There were actually a lot of||
There were actually a lot of people upset with Beilein in his third and fourth years. I remember going to games at a half-empty Crisler and hearing a lot of "This system isn't going to get it done" comments from people.
Even those who weren't necessarily calling for Beilein's firing would damn him with faint praise. The feeling was that he was starting to warm up the seat a bit for his successor, who would recruit better than him. For a while, Brian's take on him was basically "Beilein has a low ceiling, but he might make the tournament sometimes, and that's OK."
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Well said. Thank you for||
Well said. Thank you for your service to our country.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||The other thing was that FSU||
The other thing was that FSU scored two defensive TDs.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||The game was close for a||
The game was close for a half, but it all fell apart after we fumbled a punt deep in our territory in the third quarter. IIRC we were down 10-9 at the time. The D then fell cracked and on offense, one matchup just killed us - our RT absolutely got abused by their star DE. Navarre had no chance on a lot of pass plays.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||True, but the game gradually||
True, but the game gradually opened up over the course of his tenure and by the late '80s, passing had become a lot more sophisticated. It was only two years after he retired that Desmond won the Heisman as a WR.
What jumps out when you look at Bo's seasons is that he didn't even have many losses by 10-14 points, either. Almost all of his losses were close, winnable games.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Bo is assigned the loss in||
Bo is assigned the loss in that Rose Bowl, but he wasn't there; he'd been hospitalized with a heart attack.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I don't have quite the time||
I don't have quite the time to post now that I used to. I still visit the site when I get a chance.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Reasons: 1. He has no head||
1. He has no head coaching experience.
2. He's apparently not great on the recruiting trail.
3. It's not clear how much of MSU's defensive success is due to him as opposed to Dantonio.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Disagree||
Brian's written some great stuff after big wins. His columns after we beat MSU in basketball are always fantastic.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Elite coaches generally don't||
Elite coaches generally don't care about why the previous guy got fired - they figure it'll never happen to them.
The attractiveness of this job is not the concern here.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||They are trying to get more||
They are trying to get more of a 60/40 in-state/out-of-state ratio now (as opposed to the traditional 70/30), but both groups have a harder time getting admitted than ever before.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||"Alumni Giving Rate" kills us||
"Alumni Giving Rate" kills us (and pretty much all other public universities).
|6 weeks 2 days ago||...Michigan's acceptance rate||
Actually it's exactly the reverse. Twenty years our acceptance rate was around 60%. It's been plummeting in recent years, especially after we went to the Common Application.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Like most children's songs,||
Like most children's songs, "Alouette" has rather grim origins but has been oddly repackaged as a song for little ones. Its origins actually have to do with the starving settlers of early French Canada, who rejoiced in finding a source of nutrition in this humble bird, so much so that they sang with each body part they de-feathered.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||IIRC, there are some seats at||
IIRC, there are some seats at Ryan Field where you can't see the main scoreboard. Other than that, yeah, the seating is decent enough.
Evanston's a fun trip.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Freddie Hunter lived the||
Freddie Hunter lived the dream of every IM player: a call-up from the IM Building to Crisler.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||Completely different reaction||
Completely different reaction here. I don't blame OSU for accepting this game when offended. OTOH, it is the absolute height of hypocrisy/cowardice for ND to claim it can't play us because it needs a more "national" schedule, and then turn around and play another Big Ten team three hours away. On those two days I will suspend all OSU hate and hope they destroy ND.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Embedding||
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Nice job taking that lemon down!
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Maybe not phrase it in those||
Maybe not phrase it in those words, but rather, something like this:
"Coach, suppose a man pledged to eat a lemon if certain conditions were met and these conditions were, in fact, fulfilled. How would you feel about this man if he now is trying to back out of his pledge?"
|8 weeks 1 day ago||And it's not as though the||
And it's not as though the child will remember the game.
Wait until he/she is old enough to last the game and have memories of it.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||At the end of the day, Lloyd||
At the end of the day, Lloyd Carr is the only Michigan football coach in the last 65 years to win a national championship. Only two Big Ten teams have won it all in the last 45 years. This should not be forgotten.
Yeah, Carr didn't have us in national contention that often (basically just 1997 and 2006) but heck, how often were we in the mix under Bo or Moeller? The only post-1980 case I can think of is 1986, when our 9-0 start was spoiled by a crappy Minnesota team. If you want to demand 12-0/11-1 every year, well, I don't know how that's going to happen consistently. It hasn't here in a long time - and we're the winningest program.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I forget which game it was||
I forget which game it was (PSU 2005?), but I remember Brian once writing a column after a last-second victory where he acknowledged being pretty negative throughout the game and then realizing at the end, after we won, that it's not worth being like that - that it's better to suspend the pessimism and let yourself believe in the program again, so you can really appreciate the high moments when they occur. I think he needs to re-read that column every year.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||And here is where this||
And here is where this community's occasional navel-gazing tendencies become a problem.
Yeah, that game was painful to experience. Yeah, we were made fun of in the media and by rival fanbases for a while after. That happens when you follow a sports team that's in the public eye. But people here have built it into something so much worse than that, into something resembling a traumatic episode. And then posters here keep reinforcing this irrational feeling, patting themselves on the back for their irrationality. At this point I wonder if some posters break out in hives at the mere mention of Appalachian State.
Guys, It was a game. That's it. Let the trauma go. Surely you've gone through far worse things in your life. I don't even think it was the worst Michigan football game I've seen, or the most painful last-second loss (I can't rank it above Colorado '94).
Watch the game. You've waited eight months.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Are we talking about the same||
Are we talking about the same Lloyd Carr who lost a total of one game (1996 Purdue) to opponents with losing records?
|9 weeks 4 days ago||For the record, guys who||
For the record, guys who played on the 2007 team seem to all be in favor of a rematch. Most wanted it to happen sooner than this.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||There are valid points made||
There are valid points made by people who didn't renew (or buy for the first time) - the cost, poor schedule, etc. But still . . . the chance to see Michigan in person is pretty awesome. I've known people over the years who passed up tickets for whatever reason and ended up kicking themselves when we played a classic game and they were watching on TV. OTOH, I've had to drag various friends/family to games over the years when they were feeling lazy and they've always been happy I made them go once they're actually there.
For students, especially, you don't want to miss out on this kind of experience. You don't want to be telling your kids down the road that you didn't actually go to games when you were in school and missed out on that great game. The prices for these games aren't too bad. Maybe they're not epic matchups, but still, it's a chance to watch your own school in action - you only get seven chances all year to do that.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I don't think they ever||
I don't think they ever actually revoked his press credentials, but just gave him a somewhat worse seat in the press box. But yeah, he's been on an anti-AD crusade since his friend RR was fired.
|11 weeks 8 hours ago||If it came after he went pro,||
If it came after he went pro, we would never have had to vacate 1992-93 and the '92 Final Four. You don't rule a guy ineligible if he takes money after his final season is over. Moreover, it makes absolutely no sense that Webber would decide to take huge sums of money from a criminal money-launderer like Martin after he'd turned pro, when he was now free to get money from any legitimate source he wanted.
Mitch Albom is full of garbage with that claim. Webber's relationship with Martin went back to when he was in middle school. Albom had to know what was going on, but I'm guessing he didn't want to be the one to break the news and get him and the school in trouble (which is probably is the case for a lot of college sports reporters).
The one legitimate defense of Webber you can make is that he met Martin at such a young age that the NCAA should have ruled that Martin was a family friend and not a street agent. But the NCAA ruled otherwise.