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|6 weeks 2 days ago||You can't quantify an||
You can't quantify an alumnus' ties to the school in athletics fandom years because the two experiences are just not fungible. Arguing your bonds to the UNIVERSITY are stronger than the bonds of someone who actually attended the school is bordering on the insane. Perhaps to the athletic department, but certainly not to the University as a whole.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I remember watching that game||
I remember watching that game while doing my chemistry homework...
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|12 weeks 4 days ago||I'm approaching 30 and 6am is||
I'm approaching 30 and 6am is super early for me... Don't think that's ever going to change.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||All the facts will NEVER be||
All the facts will NEVER be in and this is not the standard we have used to criticize other schools.
Jeez... Michigan fandom turns some of you into flaming hypocrites.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||This, exactly this.||
This, exactly this.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||You can't... most people know||
You can't... most people know this, but they're just slow playing it and hoping some miracle happens between now and signing day that makes the impending oversigning excusable. Brian and most of the fan base will just shrug and say "playing time transfers" as if that's not exactly the same thing Alabama does(and what this fanbase criticized Alabama for doing every single year.)
It wouldn't bug me as much as it does if these people would just admit that the faux outrage in the past didn't really have anything to do with the kids and everything to do with Michigan not doing it too. Kinda like what Brian asks SEC and ACC fans to do regarding satellite camps.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||slow approach and learn some||
slow approach and learn some facts = let's not talk about it and hopefully it'll blow over
|14 weeks 5 days ago||"and not hold onto guys that||
"and not hold onto guys that they don't think will perform (e.g., Derrick Green)"
Speak for yourself, if Derrick Green wanted to stay I would absolutely want the coaching staff to hold on to him. A promise is a promise and if my alma mater promised a kid 4 years of education, I want them to keep it.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||The risk should all fall on||
The risk should all fall on the schools because the potential damage from a decommit isn't in the same ballpark as the damage from a yanked scholarship late in the process.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||(No subject)||
|15 weeks 2 days ago||You know what else Ole Miss||
You know what else Ole Miss has in spades? KKK members.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Have Indiana and Alabama||
Have Indiana and Alabama players come out saying they're being forced to transfer?
How are those transfers any different?
|15 weeks 3 days ago||I'm sorry, but the whole||
I'm sorry, but the whole "playing time transfer" thing is indefensible when Brian has criticized Crean's Indiana and Saban's Alabama for doing exactly the same thing. Saban isn't yanking scholarships. He's telling players "you need to transfer or medical because you're not playing here anymore" and Brian has criticized him for it.
I can link an article where Brian saw a report that Alabama was taking a class of 27 and that meant 8 is players had to be jettisoned from the program if that was correct. How many will we have to jettison if we take 30 and why is Brian not complaining about it?
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Lol||
I realize you're being sarcastic but some people make exactly this argument with a straight face.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||We might have wanted to bring||
We might have wanted to bring in more grad transfers(talk of grad transfer WRs at the time), but Pipkins going public with the story tied the football program's hands.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not going down this road.||
I'm not going down this road. We can argue motives, it'll all be speculation. It is what it is.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Similar situation to Jamel||
Similar situation to Jamel Dean at OSU. What do you think people said here?
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Pipkins already said last||
Pipkins already said last year he was being pressured into signing a medical scholarship so......
|15 weeks 4 days ago||That's always been the||
That's always been the case.
Again, when we talk about the oversigning controversy we're talking about what the schools do between NSD and spring to get under the 85 scholly cap. If NSD comes and you're over 85(counting incoming) then you're commiting yourself to jettisoning some players on the program. Some people argue this dynamic gets some kids pushed out the door.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Alabama, Indiana, Tenn, OSU,||
Alabama, Indiana, Tenn, OSU, Arkansas under Petrino, and many other schools could have made exactly that same argument. I've said as much on some of those occasions. When I make your argument on threads about Indiana bball or OSU/Alabama football oversigning I get negged to hell...
The truth is Brian has never cared where that attrition is coming from. He's always seen it as shady no matter what, and that was the popular opinion people had in this forum less than a year ago.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||See my second reply for two||
See my second reply for two examples. Exactly the same situation.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Some of us actually have||
Some of us actually have integrity, backbone, and consistency in our opinions.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||http://mgoblog.com/content/un||
"Meanwhile, another one bites the dust at Indiana. The Hoosiers get a commitmentfrom prep post Thomas Bryant, bringing the number of Indiana players guaranteed to get run off this offseason to three. Someone please fire Tom Crean."
"Just another Alabama offseason. Alabama fans believe they will take 27 kids in this recruiting class, which means they'll have to eject eight guys from the program. Unless it's actually eleven, ie, the different between Michigan signing the 16 or 17 they expect to this year and a near-NCAA maximum class. At least Bama fans are no longer able to deny what's happening with sleight of hand, and have to admit they don't care:"
I could go on and on and point at dozens of posts like this. I won't bother because if you don't see the double standard already, I doubt you ever will.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||When we do it.. "Harbaugh||
When we do it..
"Harbaugh obviously knows who is leaving"
When Urban, Crean, Saban, ect do it..
"omg, NCAA sucks, obvious oversigning, kids getting pushed out the door, bogus medical redshirt.."
|15 weeks 4 days ago||What do you think the meaning||
What do you think the meaning of oversigning is? No school stays above 85 after kids get to school. The controversy is about what schools do between signing day and spring practice to get under that 85 scholarship limit.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||I don't necesarily have a||
I don't necesarily have a problem with us doing it, although I certainly wish we didn't.
What I do have a problem with is the faux outrage that's gone on over the past few years within some elements of the fanbase. (I could point at examples but just search for "oversigning" in the site search. Those same people who were angry about the "spring creaning" in indiana, or St Saban Memorial Hospital, ect ect ect are now doing the math trying to figure out who we should encourage to transfer. It's just embarassing.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Even if we stay at 28, it's||
Even if we stay at 28, it's going to be VERY DIFFICULT to not be at over 85 the day after signing day.
What this website and this fanbase ALWAYS criticized other teams for was what they did between signing day and spring practice to get under the 85 player cap. Every transfer and every medical scholly was seen as a coach pushing kids out the door. We'll see how that narrative plays out once we start getting our own surprise transfers and medical scholarships.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Yup... I'll be waiting for||
I'll be waiting for Brian's faux outrage piece once signing day comes and we're over the 85 scholarship limit. (I know it won't come) This is precisely why I'm always slow to judge other schools when they do shady stuff. Too much egg on the face when your own team does it.