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14 weeks 2 days ago Offensive Goaltending

Makes no sense. I have never understood how an offensive player tipping in a basket was made illegal if the ball is in a virtually impossible to determine from most angles imaginary cylinder. Defensive goaltending makes sense.

46 weeks 5 days ago Why not use the 10 yard line markers

wouldn't it make sense to use the 10s for the 10 yard line for the B1G logos. It would really just be adding a "B" to the field. less clutter is better.

1 year 20 weeks ago These unis are only for teams who donned Nike in their champions

MSU wore reebok when they won their last championship so they don't qualify for this initial platinum jersey.

1 year 40 weeks ago this was a celebratory post

I like coach Carr, he coached a number of great teams and they were so good because of his leadership and I'm thankful for the years he was coach. He did however lack in one area and that was to be aggressive when there was a chance at playing it safe. There was a fear that Hoke would be that same way. I am thoroughly enjoying the guts of the playcall tonight going for it all.

1 year 46 weeks ago Both teams

2008 Utah & 2010 SDSU had 9-4 seasons with a win over Navy in the Poinsettia. That's as close as could be. Back in '08 the jury was out on Whittingham too.



Utah's undefeated run was not expected they didn't have Boise St. or TCU like hype. Which is why we as a Michigan fanbase came to grips with that particular loss retroactively late in that season.

2 years 14 weeks ago Dear Bubble,

GTFO my court.



Yours Truly,



Darius



2 years 16 weeks ago The bigger issue

The bigger issue is that the arena is outdated. Oiler fans still fill the building to capacity every night even when the team is not competitive in an outdated rink.

So are you saying that since Oiler fans have established themselves as a working class and extremely loyal fanbase they should not want a modern arena downtown? 

This narrow view of yours is ridiculous. Edmonton is a city that will sell out a bigger arena when built and it could use a downtown arena district to revitalize a boring unused downtown core.

2 years 20 weeks ago Dual

I'm a Dual Citizen.

I was Born in Grosse Pointe Farms. Only lived in the Detroit area for 2 years of my life but my dad older brother got hooked. I was raised a Michigan fan and never swayed.

I moved to Edmonton, AB at 18 to go to a Christian Institution, met my wife and have stayed lived here ever since.

2 years 21 weeks ago Trick plays

Especially the one other teams do where the qb lines up as a wr. The defense couldn't afford to ignore Robinson like they do almost every qb that lines up out wide.

I know multiple QBs on the field has been joked about a lot in the last 2 years but in the case of a trick played I'd love to see it.

Denard coming around in motion on a reverse pass would also be fun to watch.

2 years 21 weeks ago Denard Robinson

Soph: 2,570 yards passing, 18TDs, 11 INTs. 1702 yards rushing (6.6 YPC) 14 TD.

Michigan had 35 total rushing TD's this year and that team in Ohio in '06 had 25 so they didn't pad Robinson's passing stats near the goal line.

So the big differences are Robinson had 5 more INT's and 1498 more rushing yds. which was needed since the team didn't have any RB's that played as well as Pittman did for them that year.

2 years 21 weeks ago $20M for the whole project

It sounds like the total cost for Michigan Stadium, Crisler and Yost will be $20M, not just the 2 for the stadium.

2 years 21 weeks ago This is ridiculous

I bet one of the things you love about Michigan is the amount of integrity that it has shown over the years, and dealing with internal problems the right way.

You cant have this and also demand David Brandon not live up to his word on how he would conduct the search. He treated Rich Rodriguez like a human being and I respect that over getting some big name by sleazy standards.

Your Florida CC analogy is stupid. Meyer retired, Rodriguez was not retained. Big Difference.

Unfortunately more coaches would rather have the Florida job than the Michigan job right now, I hope that changes soon.

2 years 23 weeks ago To be clear to the original post I want Jim Harbaugh.

He was my favorite NFL qb growing up. I lived in Chicago while he was a Bear, I loved watching him as a Colt. I still think the Colts were robbed by that play Kordell Stewart was out of bounce and came back in to catch the AFC championship winning TD.

I wanted Harbaugh back in 07 when he had won a NC with San Diego.

The circus around Harbaugh this month is crazy. I am beginning to think of the other options after Harbaugh. Hoke is someone I think has the potential to overachieve and be a good coach at Michigan. Whoever the next HC is will have to deal with a lot of bs expectations and myths of bs expectations that the local media hold in too lofty idealistic standards.

EDIT: I also think the lambasting of Hoke on this board is terrible and could possibly make the job harder than it needs to be if he happens to be hired. We don't need the next coach having similar challenges that handicapped Rodriguez while he was here. It took the wind out of the sails of a good coach and I don't want to see a portion of the fanbase / media create unnecessary obstacles to overcome within the support system of Michigan football. 

2 years 23 weeks ago Nick Saban won MNCs because...

He Cheats

Didn't play USC (LSU)

Colt McCoy got hurt



The Pete Carroll / nick Saban route is the other way to win. Stockpile NFL talent by any means necessary.

2 years 23 weeks ago I was trying to bring perspective against the growing myth

Bo's statement was an indictment on Frieder not an endorsement for Fisher, it's better to have an interim coach them somebody who wants to be somewhere else.



On another note: I think Jim Tressel who was an unpopular choice has been so successful because of his passion for OSU. I know he has the best state for recruiting outside of the south and big budgets and proved himself to be a good coach at other levels, but without his passion he he'd be like John Cooper. Cooper had great talent but lost meaningful games. OSU dominates the bigten because of their coaches passion has been adopted by their players.



I want to see Michigan match that internal passion for the team by the coaches and then the players. That will all depend on how passionate the next HC leads.

2 years 23 weeks ago Anybody who thinks...

Harbaugh = Lloyd Carr

Is crazy.

Harbaugh has a tenacity that shows up in his players that Michigan never had with Carr on offense. The 97 defense the huge exception.

2 years 26 weeks ago A switch of Wisconsin & Nebraska

Would solve all of this. The divisions would still be even and the rivalries would make more sense.



Then you could very logically do great lakes / plains or north south would work as well.



The B1G decision on Wisconsin is screwing these division lines and consequently names up.

2 years 27 weeks ago Coaches can't talk about specific recruits

Until they have signed on commitment day or are early enrollees on campus.

2 years 28 weeks ago frustrating

I have played through 1 season and found that the gameplay was really frustrating. It seemed like some of those older games where only some of the plays work and other just don't work regardless of the situation.  Receivers drop passes at a frustrating level. Running the ball with the rb can be pretty easy. I ended up pulling a Wisconsin and abandoned the pass, Mike Shaw had a big season.

I doubt I'll ever play a 2nd season. $5 - its debatably worth it.

2 years 29 weeks ago Champion

Harbough won a national championship at San Diego. RR hasn't won one on any level. Your argument that RR's potential winning future championships is greater doesn't make sense.



Harbough is not equivalent to Lloyd Carr. He is a much more aggressive coach. Maybe a little more like Moeller when the offensive game plan was play to win and score at every chance instead of conservative playcalling / playing not to lose and allowing lesser teams to stay close.

2 years 30 weeks ago justin tv app

I have an iphone. I've watched a couple of M games this fall or part of them from the Justin TV app.  Its a battery and data sucker if you're not on wifi, but well worth it.

2 years 31 weeks ago these were my favorites

 

Classic Style with modern well fitting V-neck 

The new ones are an improvement from the stretched scoop neck look we've had the past few years. They have an awkwardly looking neck that seems to be too big.

2 years 36 weeks ago Good friends wedding

I'm a groomsman. Starts a 1/2 hour before game time. Its worth it for a friend this close. But my heart is torn in being away from the tv at gametime, especially considering this years heightened excitement.



I live in Alberta where NCAA football is not a consideration. I hope my justintv app works during pictures.

2 years 36 weeks ago Please let this mean

Gus Johnson gets to call the Final 4. I know he's A play by play which is what nantz does. Hopefully CBS will consider improving their announcing quality.

2 years 38 weeks ago request for AAB

please have a comment and not just a heading or the mgoblog app for iphone crashes

 

And Oregon is the most exciting offense so far this season.

2 years 39 weeks ago Tate '09 vs Denard '10 stats are misleading

Tate was the best QB on the team last year. But through the first four games he was not given the opportunity to play full games. Denard has played all but 3 snaps this year. Tate wasn't given the chance to rack up stats.

  • The WMU 2nd half was a mess with QB's rotating in and out and no one was able to get in a rhythm (31 first half points and 0 second). 
  • ND he was given almost the full game and had over 310 yards of total off.
  • The game against EMU Tate had 13 passes and 6 runs
  • Indiana also one of the first four games is the one he was hurt in.

I thought the biggest mistake last year was that the coaching staff didn't let Tate stay in games long enough to get offensive timings and rhythms going that could've set up a dynamic conference season. The QB switches of last year didn't lose any of the first 4 games but it certainly didn't help the team going into the rest of their season.

We would not be hearing all the same hype and accolades for Denard if he was pulled for the majority of UConn and pieces of ND. 

I'm glad that the coaches have put their confidence and full games of snaps to Denard this year so far.

2 years 40 weeks ago Gloves
  • In 2008 our guys came out in the rain in Adidas gloves having just switched brands in the off season.
  • No one on ND had Adidas gloves and they have been with that brand for years.
  • They came out with Cutters instead of Adidas.
  • They held on to the ball and our guys could not.
  • I hope the team chooses gloves wisely after that debacle.

Edit

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11789412@N03/2863093702/sizes/m/in/photostream/

Some of Michigan's players might have switched gloves at halftime.

2 years 41 weeks ago 10-2

10-3

2 years 41 weeks ago Dayne Crist and Death have a higher ranking...

than Forcier and Robinson.

And the non-death option is coming off of ACL surgery.

This is ridiculous. 

2 years 42 weeks ago channelsurfing.net

Has a lot of sports content including a espn channel feed

2 years 42 weeks ago Have had my macbook for 2 years

I still love it.

Friends that bought pc laptops at the same time are not content with those ones anymore and are wanting to get a new one.

I've had no desires of getting a new one. That's contentment, I always want new electronics.

Mac won me over and continues to. My usage needs sound similar to OP.

2 years 42 weeks ago 2 observations from media day pics

1 pic has freshman QB "Kevin Gardner" posing

Other more important observation: its great to see #46 Jon Bills, smiling and having fun!

Jon Bills with Roundtree and Webb

2 years 43 weeks ago no stonum, odoms, cox, shaw

there is a lot 1st & 2nd string guys missing from this video 

2 years 43 weeks ago maize replaced black

I didn't think it made sense that the QB's wore black jerseys the past couple videos before this one. It only looked slightly different from the blue jerseys worn by the defense. At least the gold/maize for practice is a different color to make them stand out. The black practice unis that the QB's were wearing didn't have the adidas 3 stripes down the side similarly to the gold (they're not adidas / generic).

2 years 51 weeks ago Filled in endzones with Fieldturf

Fieldturf is supposed to look like real grass (in most cases). If you look at kinnick or Ohio stadium for recent examples of going with fieldturf and filling the endzones with team colors, the fakeness really comes out. With UM's natural background look the grass appearance remains entact.

(Tried to link pictures from phone)
http://flickr.com/photos/dsweeney/4563248770/sizes/m/in/search?q=kinnick...

http://flickr.com/photos/27699644@N02/2887608367/sizes/m/in/search?q=ohi...

3 years 7 weeks ago Dadrian Taylor vs. Joe Paterno's Penn State

3 years 7 weeks ago the google earth in browser option didn't work

I did download the model by MkMrA2 for my google earth and then hid the one that was the default. This is a good job by him, much better than the old one.  The old model always bothered me - but I don't have the skill or the patience to build Michigan stadium myself. This new update is not perfect but a big improvement.

edit: the outside structures' brick and glass are very impressive, virtually perfect. not sure how you would change the glass on the inside to look more realistic.

3 years 8 weeks ago Gus Johnson

I hope Turner getting Final Fours in the future means shuffling the commentating so there is more Gus Johnson calling it and not Master's whispering Nantz. Nantz almost made the Butler Duke game boring. CBS should just keep him in golf.

3 years 8 weeks ago I don't know how much we'll miss DW

He's talented. But, he never seemed to possess that leadership quality to demand others around him be better.

One of the best things about Woodson was that he kept everybody accountable around him. So guys like Ray and Hendricks and Weathers were pushed to play better than there talent level.

I don't like that Warren is gone but I'm not really upset either. It seems like T Wolf might possess some of that leadershipto demand of his teammates. And if Warren was being a me first attitude guy (it sometimes seemed that way this year) that his leaving early knowing he doesn't have a chance for 1 st round suggests; the team will be better as a unit who play together. And most importantly as they practice together to make each other better.

3 years 8 weeks ago similar concerns

When Roundtree was on the field in the spring game, the ball was going to Roundtree regardless of who the QB was. Stonum did not even get a pass thrown to him, I felt bad for him since he is a Jr and his future is really in flux for being a major contributor for UM or not. Is it simply that Roundtree has the knack for getting open on every play or is it that the QB's see #12 better than the other WR's?

3 years 11 weeks ago I don't remember praising bunched uniforms

I don't think it's too much too ask of Adidas to make uniforms that don't rip so easily, while at the same time don't have bunching numbers or some other major quality control issue. I think that uniforms that tear at the seams or in the climacool fabric look sloppy regardless of straight tackle-twill numbers. It's ridiculously short sighted to think it HAS to be one or the other flaw.

EDIT: I also believe that Reebok uniforms had more of a bunching issue than Nike did.

3 years 11 weeks ago Great Technology

Is it the Climacool part of the jersey that has been ripping on Michigan's jerseys the last two years? I know that Brandon Graham is awesome and a jersey cannot contain him but he always had holes in his jersey. He wasn't the only one. Thanks Adidas, for making Michigan cutting edge jerseys that constantly get holes ripped in them.

3 years 12 weeks ago Rice-esque

Looks like old number 41 in the '89 tournament.

3 years 12 weeks ago Completely disagree!

Gus Johnson is my favorite.

Adam Morrison tears up as Gus yells "HEARTBREAK CITY!" in UCLA's epic comeback.
That's quality announcing.

3 years 14 weeks ago Its been a rough stretch for me

1. Michigan Football
2. Michigan Basketball
3. Seattle Seahawks
4. Detroit Lions
5. Edmonton Oilers
6. Seattle Mariners
7. Detroit Tigers
8. Detroit Pistons
9. Seattle Sonics (left)

Last year's Michigan Basketball team the only bright light the last 2 years.
Here's to hoping for a good run for the MNT in the World Cup this summer, although they would probably rather not have me root for the them.

3 years 14 weeks ago Is Tate going to switch?

Will Tate go to his #4 that he had in HS with Minor gone?
For the phonetic use with his name.

3 years 14 weeks ago This a great update

This is great to hear about a good player who is a high character guy. Every news I hear about Craig makes me even more of a fan of his personally.

Although he won't get the same national recognition as Florida QB#15, I think we are feeling a very similar feeling in our fanship of Roh that Florida fans felt after Florida QB#15's first year when people began to hear of his Missions work and his team leadership character.

I hope our excitement for Craig will see similar successes for Michigan football that happened for Florida the last 3 years highly due to their high character, missions minded team leader.

3 years 16 weeks ago Benefit

It looks like a win is likely. The Canadian Women benefited from a tough semifinal when the US got an easy win over Sweden (not even competitive). I hope this helps momentum and is not a disservice for the gold medal game. With that said. Yes!!!! 4-0

3 years 16 weeks ago Michigan fans

It seems to me that in part Rosenberg and Snyder had the courage to do this because they know that Michigan fans will do nothing about this. Imagine a dishonest story breaking out in Columbus about OSU, Dallas/Houston about Texas , Jacksonville about UF, Tuscaloosa about Bama. Freep thinks thinks they can write anything even if the aren't truthful. There has to be a repercussion for this from the fans. But because we are Michigan fans and hopefully civilized we need to Ban the Freep as a protest. The other markets would probably resort to violence or nasty threats. We need to hit them in the pocketbook. Take their advertising dollars away. This is how they should pay. Hopefully their first cutbacks on staff would be the notorious writers of fabricated details on a program that has done things the right way, and still does. Its just that other programs are not being witch hunted like UM has just had done to them.

3 years 17 weeks ago 2009 ND

= hope

3 years 18 weeks ago Tate was awesome till he got hurt

Tate was phenomenal when his shoulder was healthy. WMU game, his first game ever he was great. ND game, Tate's performance was Heroic. EMU game was good in limited time, the team struggled when DR was in. Indiana game he was clutch but got hurt. MSU was the game following his labrum injury. He still willed his team to OT.
Starting in that game and for the rest of the season he could not throw the long ball. Defences figured that out and knew they didn't have to cover deep. Our offence was severely limited.

Tate is going to be our QB and the guy to lead this amazing offence to immense success. We've seen him do it already. He didn't regress as much as just couldn't play how he should because of a hurt throwing shoulder. Healthy Tate is my #1 choice for any QB in the nation.

3 years 18 weeks ago mainpage

Brian posted this on the front page 7 hours ago - a lot of comments there

3 years 18 weeks ago As I recall

Coach Jackson was over the moon about McGuffie, Shaw & Cox. Especially McGuffie. Similar sort of praise to FItz. He said Sam would be one of the best ever.

Fitz being faster than Chris Perry would be awesome. Perry's Sr season was a dream. He deserved every bit of that Doak Walker and was great against OSU in the 100th anniversary of The Game.

Hopefully he will avoid the immaturity that Perry had in his bouts with Coach Carr. It was painful to watch him as an underclassmen have so much potential wasted sitting on the bench.
If Fitz has the well-roundness of Perry, the next 4 years will be exciting. Can't wait for another RB to display stength, speed and agilty all at the same time again.

3 years 19 weeks ago looks like IKEA to me

Just went through kitchen renovation using IKEA. Those are my exact door handles. I recognize the cabinets as well.

3 years 22 weeks ago Baltimore & DC

But no Chicago. That is a lame plan. Baltimore and DC are way to close to be considered different areas for a World Cup hosting in America. No Chicago, the 3rd largest metro area in the country is ridiculous. Especially considering their history with soccer and the caliber of their stadium. I'm disappointed by the plan.

3 years 25 weeks ago Gary Patterson

At least he would deserve it. Chris Peterson would as well.

3 years 26 weeks ago Edmonton, AB

Got shocked by -51 temperatures last week after snow the week before. Now around 20 degrees with another inch of snow. No doubt of a white Christmas this year. We've had a couple years in the past 5 where we had no snow. I'm not sure which is more hard to believe. Last week we were the coldest place on earth with the exception of Siberia.

3 years 26 weeks ago Rotate it!

Lucas Oil, Ford Field, Soldier Field, And maybe even in Cleveland, Cincinnati or Pittsburg. But priority given to Detroit and Indy for being picturesque indoor stadiums.

Miller Park in Milwaukee would be a good option too.

3 years 26 weeks ago I feel sorry for Brandon

It was fun watching him play. But at the same time completely frustrating. Not once in 4 years was he a dependable back for more than one game at a time.

I have nothing against his effort / attitude. I simply hope that Michigan will have a consistently productive rb again. Which we haven't seen in the last 2 seasons, regardless of "Minor's Rage" which came out in a few games.

3 years 26 weeks ago Replacement for Minor

I don't understand the hope to fill Minor's shoes. Minor only had a handful of good games in his career. He never filled Hart's shoes when given the opportunity when mike got hurt. And the last 2 years Brandon has not been able to stay healthy or play through injuries with especially this season laid on his shoulders he could not deliver.
With names like Hart, Perry, Thomas in just this decade alone carrying Michigan by their multiple great performance in not only games but whole seasons, I do not want a replacement for Minor. I am hoping for one of fitz, smith, cox or even shaw to play like a Michigan rb that I grew accustomed to watching when life as a Michigan fan was good.

3 years 27 weeks ago flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2571/4167535921_433528d1b7.jpg

3 years 29 weeks ago possibility

It sounds dumb the way it was said - however don't most coaches call their players by their last name. If so, in this case it would be much easier to call him Vuna - his first name than his very difficult to pronounce last name. Making it not that bad of a comment in theory.

A side note - I used to hate Musberger's announcing. He was such an MSU homer, and always had something bad to say about Michigan. In the last 10 years that has changed. He has become more like Mr. Jackson in that you almost feel he is a fan of each team that he announces games of.

3 years 30 weeks ago Bravo

Well done. Tate shall use the Forcier to take down the Empire!
Love R2 Odoms

3 years 40 weeks ago perspective

Growing up in many different places in the US and Canada as well as 3 years in Africa I might have a different perspective. I was born in Detroit and have always been an M fan. My fanship really developed in the late 80's as I began to follow sports in general (I am 30 years old right now).

During the late 80's as I began to follow M closely, the rivalry with ND was the most important. Bo vs. Lou Holtz. Rocket. Desmond! Remy! Classic games. The whole season depended on the outcome of that game. I think because the game is early in the year that if both teams are good and history has usually meant that both are, that this game is more important for the outcome of the whole season. Many Ohio State games have been played for "pride." ND game is for hope, momentum, a chance at everything still available.

Nothing compares though to the oSU game when championships are on the line. When the ND game is played it almost always gleams with hope.

3 years 41 weeks ago WIN

38 -24

3 years 41 weeks ago Shaw Digital

Has both WXYZ Detroit and BTN. That should be good for at least 9 games.

Fellow dweller of Canada. Edmonton, AB.

3 years 46 weeks ago #4 Marquise Walker

Walker wore #4 Terrell was # 1 his whole time at M.
I think the 4 for stokes seems odd. I didn't think he was a RS candidate with how high coach Rod was of him in the signing day presser.
Side note: Denard got his HS #
nice of Cone to switch for him

3 years 47 weeks ago #38

They have them at 38. It'll be interesting to hear their evaluations.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-07-16/kickoff-...

3 years 50 weeks ago UM - OSU to low on the list

Even though OSU has their streak of wins against the good guys, other than last year when Sweater Vest got embarrassed that last year's game was close at half and then ran up the score in the 4th quarter, the games have been competitive. The bad guys just have just had the ability to close out games. This has not taken away from the fierce competitiveness of football's greatest rivalry. To put this rivalry below UF-UT which has been very lopsided in wins and scores or TA&M-TT which has been totally irrelevant (who remembers even one of those games) is ridiculous.

4 years 9 weeks ago speed is deceptive

In watching D-Rob's highlights - he was being chased out of bounds or tackled by linebackers in HS. He maybe fast but he is not the most elusive guy that I've seen. I think that changing speeds while running is much more important than being able to run fast. I think that Tate might has a better grasp of changing speeds and the ability to read and follow blockers better than D-Rob.
Its like Mike Hart. He's not going to beat anybody in a race, which is why he got chased downfield a lot. But, there are very few HB's that were more effective.

4 years 9 weeks ago Hopkins' style

In watching the video of Hopkins run I thought of two players in recent Michigan history. The first was BJ Askew circa 2002 when he played at HB because Chris Perry was in Lloyd's doghouse. He had a great game against MSU running for 150 in the 49-3 win. The other player I thought of was Anthony Thomas in his style of bull you over but also takes great angles to negate some lack of speed. I know Thomas was a lot higher ranked coming out of HS and came in to contribute as a freshman on the NC team - but Hopkins has a similar style.
I think Askew and Thomas are better comparisons than Minor.

4 years 10 weeks ago That 7-5 season

Braylon was a rookie in the NFL. Mike Hart was hurt in the ND game at the beginning of the year and was not the same player he was the other three years. Jason Avant was the go to receiver that year, with Steve Breaston not being able to catch anything more than a WR screen or short slant.

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