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- You seem in a rush to go to MBA because you hate your current job
- Your GMAT is low
- You have not stated what you want to do coming out of MBA
- You are considering MBA programs lower-tier than Ross
- Figure out what you want to do, at least directionally. You seem to just want a career change but don't really know what your goal is. This will get you slaughtered both in the admissions process and while at school, because your admissions story won't be all that cogent and even if you get in, you will have a hard time prioritizing what to do / how to spend time etc. and could very well potentially end up in a job you don't actually like (or can't find a job because you aren't focused enough). I think this is extremely important and I am a firm believer that no one should go to MBA just to get away from their current job and without knowing themselves enough to know what they want (not that it can't change later).
- Get your GMAT score at least to 700. This will make you at least competitive at top schools - you want the GMAT at least to be a reason not to go against you (even if it doesn't directly help you). I firmly believe the GMAT is not a test of intelligence, it is a test of memorizing random tricks and applying them under time pressure. If you study enough, you absolutely CAN get a score of over 700. When I first started studying I got a 670 - through concentrated studying, I raised it 100 points. This is possible if you put in the effort.
- Narrow down your schools based on a few criteria - I think the two most important are what kind of career you want coming out and if the right people recruit at that school (notice that figuring out what you want is the number one priority), and the location that you want to be in post-graduation. Now the top schools will allow you to largely go anywhere (e.g., if you go to Stanford you can still get jobs in NYC), but if you are planning to look at lower schools then choosing a school based on where you eventually want to live is more critical because they don't have national reputations.
- I would rule out schools ranked lower than Ross. I think Ross is a good option because basically most of the good companies who would recruit at a Harvard still come to Ross, and the power of the Ross alumni network is still decent nationally. Now, once you go lower than that, you are losing these two pieces - you mentioned UW - Foster but I really think that's burning money and would just simply focus my efforts on getting a job / changing careers without MBA. In business and law schools, the level of "prestige" matters incredibly (in contrast to, say, medical school - you can still be a doctor going to any medical school).
|18 weeks 1 day ago||UNYIELDING.||
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Can't really hate JT Barrett||
Can't really hate JT Barrett either, both kids seem to have good heads on their shoulders unlike some other represensatives of that team... I'm quite impressed with both actually, seem pretty mature.
|32 weeks 2 days ago||Dumbass Thing to Say||
I would rather not win national championships / Big Ten championships than hurt these kids' lives. At the end of the day, football is just a fucking game. It doesn't really matter in the sense it doesn't really affect anyone's individual (realistic) standard of living. Kicking kids off the team / off scholarships / forcing them to transfer purely for competiveness' sake is a real and terrible thing to do.
|33 weeks 2 days ago||Man I'm Old||
Class of 2017, huh? I was a class of 2011 BBA and graduation still seems like yesterday at times...
Anyway, congratulations to the OP. As others have said, it's not all rosy in the Bschool. Specifically, there's a lot of arrogance and a lot of tools in there who think that somehow Ross is better than the rest of Michigan. I've always loved the school as a whole (and MGoBlog and football helps there, of course) so I didn't have that mentatliy, but watch out for falling into that trap.
Classes shouldn't be too tough (although Year 1 is a little more challenging) due to the massive grade-inflation. You should definitely keep your GPA in the 3.8 range and above for jobs, which shouldn't be that hard with strategic class selection if you don't want to work that hard.
Make sure you join and actively lead / participate in clubs in the career fields you are interested in. I didn't do anything there, which looks terrible haha.
Networking is absolutely crucial to getting jobs, so start early and learn how to do it right (e.g., without being annoying). Learn from older classmates who were successful at getting good jobs. I was always terrible at networking and though I ended up in pretty good spots, it would have helped a lot more if I knew what I was doing.
Anwyay, that's my unsolicited advice which is hopefully helpful for a freshly-minted BBA. Unlike the other schools (which are and should be focused on more theoretical academic knowledge, say philosophy or something), the purpose of Bschool is to get you a job. Use the school for its intended purpose without getting sucked in to a dbag mentality and you'll do well.
|34 weeks 1 day ago||I think the ending was pretty||
I think the ending was pretty hilarious as well... Harbaugh just answers these questions like they are so blindingly obvious. Great shit.
|38 weeks 5 days ago||Troubling||
I think it's worrying that King's former high school coach is speaking so much to the media about this - it seems that indicates relations have further soured between King and our coaching staff, boding poorly for us to pull recruits from there.
Obviously a high school coach would stickup for his former player, but the tone of his statements almost seems like a mistrust of Harbaugh's reasoning, whatever it might be.
|39 weeks 2 days ago||Definitely - if you see this||
Definitely - if you see this haha. Hit me up over email or Facebook at jcorqian for either (I use gmail).
|39 weeks 2 days ago||Thanks for compiling -||
Thanks for compiling - interesting data. Maybe Michigan isn't unique in this regard, but it seems to me at first glance that these lists are rather... short. I guess I would have thought we would have had way more fumble returns for a touchdown in our school history, for example. Same with kickoff returns for a touchdown.
|39 weeks 4 days ago||Go Blue||
Occupation: corporate grinder (going into asset management post school)
Schools: UM '11 (BBA), Wharton '17 (Expected MBA)
Location: worked 4 years in NYC, going to school in Philly
Most Michigan Moment: brough in a full-sized, authentic Michigan football helmet my first day of work and plopped it down in the middle of my desk for everyone to see in an extremely corporate environment. Been there ever since - I'm not gonna be a soft bitch, gonna flaunt that Michigan pride.
|40 weeks 2 hours ago||STARTUPS||
|45 weeks 5 days ago||+1 for Infinite Grover. Pure||
+1 for Infinite Grover. Pure genius.
|50 weeks 6 days ago||Some Advice From a Fall 2015 Admit||
OP, it seems we are the exact same age and are looking at a similar type of situation, so hopefully my advice is useful. Just for background, I graduated Michigan undergrad b-school in 2011 and will have worked for about four years before starting business school in the fall. I applied Round 1 to Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, and Columbia and got denied by Stanford, waitlisted at Harvard, and accepted in Wharton and Columbia. I will most likely be attending Wharton in the fall.
A couple things standout to me:
Given these things, here's my advice to you, in order of priorities:
Given these things and just how hard it is to get into anywhere decent during Round 3, I would absolutely urge you to suck it up at the job and wait it out and apply Round 1 this fall. First of all, you won't have the time to figure out what I stated above before Round 3. Second of all, I think you should consider the longer-term implications of your decision rather than just running away from something. I know the current job sucks (I'm in one I hate as well) but the risk of going back to school, doing something just as bad, and burning money at the same time is too high to not make an informed decision.
Sorry this isn't all rosy, but the real world is a cold place and I want to give as real of advice as possible. Good luck with everything from a fellow die-hard Michigan fan.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||I don't know if you can||
I don't know if you can comprehend this, but the starting quarterback at the University of Michigan posting pictures at the hospital probably does a lot of good in of itself to raise awareness for the hospital and the sick patients. In fact, there's a valid argument to be made that all the other athletes should post pictures too as it will raise even more awareness.
Go ahead, think about it. I'll wait.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Me either, glad we were both||
Me either, glad we were both able to.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||My guess is maybe the search||
My guess is maybe the search firm could help unearth some potentially viable and interested candidates through established relationships with agents and advisors in the event that obvious options A, B, and C somehow fall through.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Confusion||
So I'm a bit confused because I thought I had read right here on MGoBlog (perhaps in one of Brian's Searchbits posts) that Hackett was very reluctant to even take the interim AD job? And that he was content in his retirement and definitely didn't want the permanent position but was just filling in because he is a huge Michigan supporter and former player with fairly good leadership experience?
Since then, I haven't heard anything along these lines and it seems more and more like his term is getting longer. Just wondering if anyone had a perspective on this - doesn't seem like these two positions really reconcile. Did he simply change his mind and decide he likes being AD?
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Hopslam||
To be honest, I don't really love Two Hearted. I'm a huge Bells fan (and general small brewery / craft beer fan), but I don't think Two Hearted really differentiates itself significantly from many other pale ales out there. Don't get me wrong, it's great, but not something I'd go out of my way for. The Michigan ties and the good times I had while drinking it obviously make a difference, but it's not enough to make it outstanding.
Now Bell's Hopslam is a ridiculously distinctive and noteworthy beer that is much harder to find outside of Michigan (I live in NYC and have seen a few times, but nowhere near how much Two Hearted is distributed). The stories I could tell about getting hammered on the deliciously enjoyable beer...
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Life is life.||
Life is life.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||This is kind of a weird point||
This is kind of a weird point to me. I have no reason to doubt what you are saying (empirically it seems true), but who cares? I am a fan of Michigan football and so long as a coach can help the Michigan Wolverines be successful, I honestly don't care if the players he develops are amazing in the NFL or not. Would it be nice? Of course. Is it a priority / does it really matter to me? Nope.
I'd be pretty happy with a Tebow, with a Prescott, or with a Gardner being used correctly.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||Bosch's Status?||
I'm assuming no one has heard any news with Bosch since he took his leave of absence with the team? Just making sure I didn't miss anything, although I read the blog pretty religiously.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||Sorry, I did miss it. Honest||
Sorry, I did miss it. Honest mistake. I actually read the boards religiously but probably just skimmed over it and forgot.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||Fuck You||
Logged in just to say fuck you. Hope you get banned, fucker.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||I haven't posted in a long,||
I haven't posted in a long, long time, but dear God this was fucking funny. Really made my day, thanks.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||Does Bollman call the plays?||
Does Bollman call the plays? I thought I read somewhere that he isn't handling those duites.
|2 years 9 weeks ago||Although I don't post much, I||
Although I don't post much, I read 100% of content on this site. ST3, I sincerely hope this is your RS Junior year and you are back for more!
|2 years 29 weeks ago||Not to pick on you too much,||
Not to pick on you too much, OP, but your post is a classic example of picking out an outlier to make an untrue assertion. Sure, it worked for Michigan THAT YEAR, but that doesn't mean that you can use 1997 as a predictor for 2013 or any other year since of course the actual trend is for teams which are younger overall not to do as well.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Good post, but you may want||
Good post, but you may want to edit your title with a "<=" sign instead.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||Thanks for this update, I for||
Thanks for this update, I for one really enjoy hearing about all Michigan sports and would love to get regular info beyond football and basketball (which are obviously great).
|3 years 10 weeks ago||Maybe they should call Tim||
Maybe they should call Tim Beckman... He seemed ready for the big leagues. Oh wait, 2012 just happened...
|3 years 10 weeks ago||It's an easily debatable||
It's an easily debatable decision, but I wouldn't say it's inexcusable by any means. Brian, the Mathlete, and others have been advocates of going for it on fourth down. I would love to see what the math says in this situation. We had been moving the ball pretty well on that particular drive as well.
People talk about the impact of not making it and all the downsides, but they don't focus enough on the upside. Say we make it and really crush the spirit of the Buckeye defense, get momentum, etc. There is such thing as generating positive momentum, not simply losing momentum. There was a great Smart Football article about this.