Hockey pet peeve: "when a teammate tips a puck in on you, which is exactly how my first collegiate goal against happened. Thanks, Copper."
|29 weeks 15 hours ago||You mean the games where....||
...opponents scored an average of almost 40 points against michigan? Come on, you can hardly blame the offense for not scoring 6 touchdowns a game against teams with good defenses.
Even a mediocre defense would have made a huge difference that year.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||so...||
"it is not a particularly hard accomplishment to finish with a good gpa and not be a completely shitty football fan while attending school."
So...this right here is where you're assuming everybody else has the same titanic capabilities as yourself. I'm glad college was so easy for you, but I remember working my ass off and still only got mediocre grades. I guess I just wasn't as smart as you.
(that last line isn't supposed to be a sarcastic stinger or anything. I really mean it.)
|1 year 36 weeks ago||god damnit||
I'm a dumbass. I meant it for the other guy. The really pretenious one claiming that anybody who chose academics over football was essentially a nazi.
Sorry, Mexile. Are we still cool?
|1 year 36 weeks ago||You want me to fetch a stool...||
...so you can climb down off that high horse?
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Allow me to speak for the whole marching band when I say||
that "I think exactly at gametime would be a reasonable cutoff" is not a good answer.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Just like, my opinion, man||
Double post fail
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Just like, my opinion, man||
I kind of like it better. I mean, I as always wondering why their helmets were so dull--when I think gold I think shiny, not a sort of deep mustard yellow/brown.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||I endorse this||
There should be a thread dedicated to the hilariously pained expressions Kelly makes on the sideline whenever ND fails to execute.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||At first I was||
At first I was like: ಠ_ಠ
But then: I lol'd.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||To be fair to the band...||
If they're playing to the east, it is really only because that is the direction that the band--as a whole--is facing. They've been in those seats for at least five years now.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||We will never be sick of it,||
We will never be sick of it, Brian.
|3 years 7 weeks ago||You've doomed us all.||
"being a guy, i dont really care about fashion, so they could play in pink tutus for all i care"
Adidas is totally going to call this bluff. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU--
|3 years 7 weeks ago||I think you're confusing "ethos" with "ethics"||
Ethos: The characteristic spirit of a culture, era, or community as seen in its beliefs and aspirations
Ethics: Moral principles that govern a person's or group's behavior.
Apple certainly have characterstic culture--namely a Jobsocracy--and a very distinctive design and use aspirations in their products. You can take pretty much any product they make and say "gloss black, brushed aluminum, stark whites and blacks? Yep, that's apple."
That Steve Jobs is sort of a huge tool who wants every cent you've ever made and will lie, cheat and treat the consumer as an idiot doesn't change that the guy has a pretty distincive vision.
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Point/Counterpoint||
"This program, as much as I love it, IS NOT bigger than an indivial's life."
"No man is more important than the Team. No coach is more important than the Team. The Team, the Team, the Team."
|3 years 9 weeks ago||I suppose you're right.||
I guess I'm holding Mallett to an unfair standard. I mean, I understand why he left. he's the perfected incarnation of the pocket passer archetype and under RR he wouldn't get to show that. And I get that a guy of his talent wants to make it to the NFL so he can earn an impossibly large amount of money. I can understand it, I just can't respect it.
I guess my biggest error here is wishing every person who ever played college football could be held to Denard Robinson's standard. That they go to a school they love because they love it, and not because they see it as the vehicle to advance their careers.
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Well, to be fair...||
I hate pretty much every person/object/idea in the known universe with the fiery intensity of a thousand burning suns right now**, so maybe my contempt for Mallett is only slighty higher than the base hatred.
Still, it's hard to have a lot of respect for a guy bailing on his team when a new coach comes into town, especially when holding him against the paragon of virtue, goodness and speed we currently have in Robinson.
**exceptions include cake (food), Cake (band), my bass guitar, and Denard Robinson.
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Wait, what?||
"Ryan Mallett did nothing to me"?
Ryan Mallet bugging the hell out of AA was the reason we had a no QB and had to try and win games with Threet/Sheridamnit. You can lay a large part of Michigan's agony in 08 on the compete and utter lack of a quarterback brought about by his departure.
No, my friend, my hatred for Ryan Mallet rages through me with the fiery intesity of a thousand burning suns.
|3 years 10 weeks ago||Gentlemen||
We all know there Is but one drink for a man or woman out on the town in Ann arbor or anywhere else in this universe: the Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster.
|3 years 11 weeks ago||Fun Fact:||
Wings have actually out hit the sharks in most games of the series.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||Well, what do you want me to say?||
There isn't a single measure of women's disempowerment in sports. Am I supposed to bring out a chart and say "when we cross THIS LINE things are equal"?
|3 years 13 weeks ago||Amen.||
I played for UM's rugby team and it seemed most the people there were more concerned with getting drunk and acting foolish than anything else.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||Way to miss the point.||
Anyways, the problem with this sort of essentialism
Is that while sure, men tend to have greater muscle mass than women that doesn't mean they are inherently better at sports. And because people have decided "Oh, men are better at sports" they soon reach the conclusion "Well, would women want play sports if they can't do it as well as men."
This is compounded by the fact that in sports where women would do very well, they are often not allowed to compete. Ski Jumping is the classic example. Women tend on average to outperform men in ski jumping (because they tend to be lighter) There is no women's ski jumping in the Olympics despite several countries' ski clubs asking for it. The Olympic committe claims it's due to lack of competetiveness...but considering how women's ice hockey has been a 2 team show since its inception that's kind of hard to justify.
Ed: After thinking about it a bit more, I've realized that claim is bull because it's entirely besides the point. Even if women were as weak as kittens and slow as snails, they STILL DESERVE the priviledge of representing their university/city/country/ect in competition. They also deserve to be treated just as well as the men. Do you think that female athletes work less hard than their male counterpoints? They should get the same priviledges as reward for their effort.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||I'd say it could be repealed||
I'd say it could be repealed when female athletes are given the same respect (and pay) as their male counterparts.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||To be fair...||
That's a fairly standard thing with modern news media: hype and outrage at first but if corrections need to be made they're utterly buried. It's endemic to pretty much every venue--newspaper, magazine, and television.
I mean, do you remember that Fox News Se"Xbox" thing where a bunch of talking heads tried to say Mass Effect was Super Erotic Space Porn? I don't remember hearing about any apology or correction. It might have existed, but it wasn't any where near as publicized.
(That is not to say the two stories are equivelent in scope or in harm, simply as an illustration of my point.)
|3 years 13 weeks ago||That's kind of my point:||
They don't compete in them. Why do they not compete in women's sports?
If a country is so poor that they can not send 11 women to Olympic or WC qualifying, how can they afford to send a men's team?
|3 years 13 weeks ago||if my degree were in philosophy...||
I'd quote some famous philosopher on "the greater good." Alas, it's not.
Also, I'm not sure I really want to go down this particularly deep rabbit hole about social justice and maximizing happiness in the world on a sports blog. Even one so intellecual as this. :)
|3 years 13 weeks ago||Somehow...||
I really doubt that the guys who practice with the women's team are there for the women's benefit, but are rather using the women's team as a sort of development program.
Ed: I guess I was being too cynical. My bad.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||Were it only in my power||
I would + OVER 9000!!!! you for this post.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||Because then we'd be asking...||
Q: "Why are there so few women on the co-ed teams?"
And then people would justify it by saying things like "Women are just not as good at sports as men**, so therefore any team that wants to compete has to have as few women as possible."
**bull, but pervasive in sports culture.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||seconded||
It's really easy to say "OMG TItle IX hurts mens sports AHHHH!" but let's be honest here: the benefits Title IX confers to women who want to compete is VASTLY greater than the detriment to men.
The u.s is a world power in women's sports, and especially in soccer and ice hockey. That's evidence of title IXs effect on u.s women's sports.
|3 years 14 weeks ago||My goodness!||
Giving legal adults the ability to choose how to spend their time, what food they eat, and where they want to sleep?
What, are we going to be asking them to VOTE next?
|3 years 15 weeks ago||Bolden||
"...the academics are tremendous there":
Man, this kid is a perfect fit. He already knows the vocab.
|3 years 16 weeks ago||U MAD?||
Honeslty, I thought most of the refs calls were the RIGHT call. Michigan got hit with a lot of penalties because they commited a lot of penalties.
That's what happens when you get a lot of forwards going around defensemen--they start trying to grab, or trip, or hold or do ANYTHING to prevent the other guy from getting a clean shot. It leads to a lot of penalties.
For a brilliant case in point, and one that is really this game in microcosm, look at that weird hook/tackle/facemask thing that happened later. Defenseman got burned--on the power play-- and was forced to basically tackle the UMD forward. It happened like that all game.
UMD didn't have to fake anything. Michigan deserved most of the penalties it got.
|3 years 17 weeks ago||So what you're saying is...||
...that The Angry Michigan Secondary Hating God is in fact Chuck Norris roundhouse kicking our defensive backs in the ankles?
|3 years 18 weeks ago||The way I read that sentence...||
...I believe MgoBrian was calling the columnist "ludicriously communist," not the Daily as a whole.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||Obligatory||
So, I'm going to go back to 2004 now. Neg away--it was worth it.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||Because...||
...Bo set the standard for a coach being personally responsible for the development of the young men under his care instead of just using them as a means to an end (namely: wins).
|3 years 20 weeks ago||A quick scan of BBC and CNN||
A quick scan of BBC and CNN says nothing about a second explosion. Sauce please?
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Maybe not the most||
Maybe not the most technically difficult solo, but I've always liked Pink Floyds Time.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||We'll always have ND 09 and||
We'll always have ND 09 and Indiana 2010.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Way to kick a guy when he's||
Way to kick a guy when he's down, Geek.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Pretty sure the OP forgot||
Pretty sure the OP forgot some zeros there, your Dudeness.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||+1 for...||
|3 years 28 weeks ago||1. The return button is your||
1. The return button is your friend. Paragraph breaks are your friends.
2 what's with the trolling? It is fully possible for a person to appreciate that UM has a historic tradition of excellence and to also appreciate that the last 10 years haven't lived up to that.
In short, go back to Lansing.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Well yeah.||
Sorry, I was goinig for hyperbole there. :).
Anyways, re: Denard. The final decision does indeed rest with Mr. robinison, but Hoke can do some things to assuage any fears that Denared has about losing his position or being shoe-horned into an offense he's not suited for.
We've got a special talent in Denard Robinison, and I just want assurances that Hoke will do his DAMNDEST to ensure that Robinson stays at UM and if he stays, that that talent isn't wasted.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||I'd say there's plenty of||
I'd say there's plenty of hostility on both sides of the divide.
One side is furious about what they feel was a sub par decision spelling four more years of DOOM while the others side is astonished at what they perceive as hypocrisy. Personally, the thing that gets me hostile is people making pathos based arguments, or snide imputations when they should be using, you know, data.
Also, +1 to you for begin reasonable and n
|3 years 28 weeks ago||nevermind.||
Ed--Comment Redacted. I misunderstood the above poster's intentions. Further reading has clarified, making this comment unnessecery. neg me.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||I'm disappointed, but I'd by||
I'm disappointed, and I'd by lying if I was to say my "FIRE HOKE" reflex wasn't on a hair trigger at the moment BUT I'll let this play out. I'll give hoke the chance to convince me.
Assuming Denard stays, it'll take at least 6 wins, with very VERY obvious improvements** in the defense for me to go "all in" for Hoke. If I see that? Groovy. If not, I'll probably slide quickly into the anti-hoke camp.
**Given our schedule and the defense being one year older I don't feel these are even all that difficult.
(Ed-If he fails to talk Denard into staying at Michigan, I will immedietly purchase firehoke.com and then hang myself.)
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Sinners Repent!||
Wow. This is a new low, even for you.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||I guess I can get behind||
I guess I can get behind this, but...what? How is this at all relevent?
|3 years 28 weeks ago||False:||
No, you got negged 1000 points because you're accusing an entire group of people of being unreasonable jackanapes and part of some kind of secret consipratorial agenda against you and they really aren't fond of being named mindless drones.
Newsflash: if you tell people they're being unreasonable zombies they probably aren't going to be all that quick to posbang you.
Honestly, you're like that Angry Religious Guy who shouts how "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL! SINNERS REPENT" on the Diag and then wonders why nobody will be friends with him.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Meanwhile, those of us who aren't peering over the ledge...||
I'm not happy about this hiring, but I'm willing to begrudgingly see how it plays out. Though my RAGE FIRE!!! reflex will be in a hair trigger...
|3 years 28 weeks ago||This again?||
DahBlue, If any RR supporter actually said we should stick by RR "because he's the coach" then yeah, they were really dumb. Same goes for anybody demanding he be fired because "this is Michigan."
|3 years 28 weeks ago||posted from iPhone||
We should totally support Stalin because he's the General Seceratary!
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Can we keep this reasonable?||
A Lloyd Carr conspiracy?
|3 years 30 weeks ago||If this isn't proof that God||
If this isn't proof that God doesn't exist, it at least proves that God is an Ohian.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Negged for being misogynistic||
Negged for being misogynistic asshole.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||You mean the way they're||
You mean the way they're being vey careful and taking their time to ensure that they make the correct calls?
Yeah, that's just *awful.*
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Somewhere les miles is||
Somewhere les miles is grinning and he has no idea why.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||COOL STORY BRO.||
COOL STORY BRO.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||If you'd just said " Canada||If you'd just said " Canada winning Olympic gold" I'd have no problem. But you HAD to bring Crosby into it, so neg-city here I come.|
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Beat me to it.||
Beat me to it.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||US v CANADA in Olympc finals.||
When Parise scored that tying goal in the last minute I about danced a jig around the room.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||I'm sorry, but I think you misunderstood the question||
It was th BEST moment of the year. Not the worst moment.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||. Forgive my spelling||
. Forgive my spelling errors. My autocorrect is going haywire.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Selfish?||
Are we talking about the same guy that had a breakout year last Lear only to find himself supplanted by Footballs equivalent of The Flash, then instead of getting pissy about it and transferring stuck around to give his team mates a great chance if and when DR gets hurt, while ensuring the programs development by alloing us to keep DGs redshift seasons.
That guy is selfish?
|3 years 30 weeks ago||...touché.||
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Rules||
Is this following Price Is Right rules, wherein if you are over the amount (date) you lose automatically?
Jan. 5. 14:42.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||I think the general||
I think the general assumption is that if DB changes coches it will be immedietly after the bowl game. After that RRs season is over, and the sooner the new coach is hired the more time he has to get ready before his inagural season.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Goalie fights are sort of||
Goalie fights are sort of like spontaneous giant snowball fights. They don't happen often, but when they do it is glorious.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Well, it goes both ways.||
In all honestly, I'd really rather see teams be judged based on their on-field accomplishments than their reputations or the size of their fanbase.
Seeing as how the sole reason for bowl games is to make shit tons of money at the expense of a goup of 20-something young men, and larger fanbases = more money, I don't think that it will ever happen.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Negged for flagrent "We're||
Negged for flagrent "We're Michigan" hand waving.
Regardless of how you fall in the Great MGoSchism of 2010, mewling about how we should beat every team every time because "We're Michigan" is pretty much the worse possible argument
It's the Godwin's Law of CC threads. Every thread eventually makes it. When you say it, you immedietly lose the argument.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Before we get all holier-than-thou||
Does anybody remember that 150+ comment "Stop posting boobs and/or NSFW stuff" forum topic?
You know, the one that was trolled into oblivion?
Good times. Good times.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Wait.||
When did Patrick Stewart become OSUs Coach?
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Not sure but they seem to put||
A ringing endorsement. Truly.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||The problem with that argument is that he plays for Detroit||
If Osgood had these stats playing for a team like Boston or Vancouver nobody would question his greatness. Unfortunatley for Ozzie, he plays for what is unquestionably the best team in the past 20 years of hockey. It's possible, even likely, that Osgood's stats are inflated because the team he plays for is so damn good.
The question is whether Ozzie is that good, or if any competent goalie would have similar stats playing for detroit. I'm curious to see if this "Red Wing Effect" is a real thing.
FWIW, in the brief time he played for the blues and the islanders, Osgoods GAA and S% were 2.67 and .900. His career stats are 2.49 and .905. All his other seasons were with Detroit.
|3 years 31 weeks ago||This one goes out to Jimboblue...||
It's called "We Hate You. Please die."
Seriously, if your mgoblog account had a face I would punch it in the balls.
(Edit: that might be a bit too subtle a reference. See here if you don't get it:
|3 years 31 weeks ago||hey!||
I'll have you know the trombone is a beloved and noble instru--
Man, I almost said that with a straight face. Screw trombones. They're too primitive to even have VALVES for god's sake.
|3 years 31 weeks ago||Best part, it was on the Penn||
I'm pretty sure they were more like "Oh shit somebody get the stretcher."
|3 years 31 weeks ago||negged for flaming||
negged for flaming douchebaggery.
|3 years 31 weeks ago||Ah, yes...||
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Your logic is flawed||
You can't claim that one 88 game win streak is a bigger achievement than another, and then use a lack of parity to justify it. If any team is going 88-straight without a loss, there is clearly a lack of parity in whatever league that team is playing in.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||The right way to handle this||
You can go into all kinds of rape denials or accusations, but the only thing that can work this out is scientific evidence that has been legally obtained.
The previous articles on this mention that the woman did report the rape and that the police dept. did obtain DNA samples. The police can match the sample with the alleged rapist.
That Kelly needs to do is to make this player totally availible to the police. If the player refuses to give a DNA sample for comparison he needs to be ejected from the team permanently. No hiding them, no protecting them.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||your point is valid....||
as Denard is the Sun and Moon and Stars, but Tate Forcier has proven himself to be quite a good quarterback in his own right.
I don't think that QB will be the position we will be scratching our eyes out for next year.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||If it were in my power||
I would +1 you to infinity for the improvement of that logo.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Well,||
That shark was jumped like 30 years ago.
Besides, I'm a Wings fan. Watching the Maple Leafs flounder is one of life's great pleasures.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Negged for ever comparing UM||
Negged for ever comparing UM football to the Maple Leafs in anything ever.
Christ, people, we've been down for 3 years. The leafs have been terrible since the sixties. And in the rare season it all came together, they achieved mediocrity.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||honestly, I don't see the appeal.||
These things are just ugly. I If I was going to buy a hockey jersey it would be the blues or the yellows. And yes, it's not yellow but maize but trying to pluralize maize is awful and you just sound like your tongue is flapping uselessly.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||obligatory.||
That's what she said.
I take no joy in this, but it had to be done.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Yeah...||
...but imagine how awesome Crysis would look on that screen.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||It's a throwback jersey the||
It's a throwback jersey the monteal canadiens wore last year.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||/thread||
|3 years 33 weeks ago||that's the thing:||
the names are so similar that we can't. I have no idea who is in what conference other than M, OSU, and MSU.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||The bottom one makes my brain||
The bottom one makes my brain explode.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||Seconded...||
with the provision we change Brian and Tim to Bo and Woody.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||I know, right?||
I know, right?
|3 years 33 weeks ago||you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...||
...than that thread on mgoblog.
It was both hillarious and deeply disturbing.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||eh.||
I wouldn't say it was the most awesome thing to happen that day, but I grinned when I saw it.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||I had been thinking caiman,||
I had been thinking caiman, but it looks like the gharial is the winner.
+1 to you.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||Ah. I was watching on tv||
Ah. I was watching on tv (Atlanta) and I figured those were digitally added to the feed by the fan crew.
Man, th ads would drive me nuts. ITS NOT MICHIGAN I TELL YOU WE ARE MICHGIBLLARGHLG
|3 years 33 weeks ago||You're not familiar with how the Internet works, are you?||
I actually agree with what you're saying, because mgoblog is a pretty classy place on the whole. I wouldnt want the place to end up looking like 4chan or whatever, but man, you just failed the Internet.
The best way to ensure that porn and smut find their way onto a board is to ask that it not be. It's Trolling 101. They will do whatever you asked them not do do simply BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL ANNOY YOU. Invoking "families" only gives them more ammo.
Hell, I try not to get into trolling, and even I want to go find some smutty pic and spam it, now. You, sir, have kicked the hornets nest.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||complaining about ads||
Ads on zambonis and the boards are pretty standard. There are ads along the boards and on the zambonis at Yost, so, I think those were UM hockey things, rather than a Wanting-ads-in-the-big-house thing.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||*stealth* bomber||
|3 years 33 weeks ago||Well that sucks...||
Well that sucks...
|3 years 33 weeks ago||overhead angles||
The NHL will do that occasionally, but it ends up looking really terrible, so they dropped the idea for the most part.
I never enjoyed it while watching hockey from that air cam, since the camera made you sort of nauseus (it has to rotate a lot to see the whole ice surface) and was too slow to follow the action anyways.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||Radio||
Is the game being streamed on radio?
And if so, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IS IT KEN KAL?!
He occasionally does the really big UM games, and he started his career calling UM hockey. Besides, he's the best play by play guy in detroit. Bar none.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||You're right.||
Let's talk about hockey instead.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||HA HA||
>>Playing his best in big games.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||Valid||
That's a good point. Plus 1.
I chose to isolate the coaches from their team's previous seasons because I assumed that the mass exodus of Michigans talent between 07 and 08 put the two teams on more or less equivalent levels,talent-wise. I should have stated that assumption more clearly.
Ed-- with the 11-1 vs 7-5 thing you're comparing Michigan's first three years under RR with Harbaugh's first 4 years. I'm not sure that's entirely fair. Anyways, my point that both coaches showed similar rates of improvement over their first three years s head coaches is still valid, i think.
I keep coming back to this point: I'm not all that torn up about the coaching situation. Worrying about it wont solve anything, and getting into big flame wars on this blog wont affect DB's decision in the least. I just don't like bad reasoning--my point in the comment above this was to point out that certain people are putting JH on a pedestal and vilifying RR despite a great deal of similarity between their previous bodies of work.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||Valid example, plus one, but...||
That is one example out of...I don't even know how many. What were urban Meyers first two seasons? Brown? Carrol? Harbaugh @Stanford, Saban? What are your definition of elite coaches?
|3 years 34 weeks ago||I don't have a strong opinion||
I don't have a strong opinion on whether RR stays or goes, but I that doesn't mean I can't point out that bias exists on all sides of any argument. For what it's worth, I lean toward keep, but I can understand the reasons for wanting a new direction. My twin sis and her fiancee are MSU grads and CHRIST am I sick of their gloating.
My point here is not to try and convince you of whether RR should be kept or not. But You're accusing a large group of people of bias. I think it's probably fair to say that there is no small number of people who DO have such a bias. There are also a similar number of people on the other side of the argument who have an equally strong bias. Denying that this affects both sides is unrealistic.
This is something all humans do. We invest ourselves into one side of an argument and then ignore date that contradicts our previous assumptions. in fact, those assumptions are STRENGTHENED if anything. Read the blog post I linked. Look at any political debate--nobody comes to any conclusions, they parties involved simply shout their talking points past one another without making any kind of compromise. Christ, look at any debate on religion, and you'll see the same bubble effect you're talking about on both sides.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||I've normally tried not to||
I've normally tried not to get to involved in the great MgoBlog Schism of 2010 except when somebody makes a really egregious post that defies all reasoning (like claiming confirmation bias exists on only one side of an argument), so...yeah.
I'm not saying they aren't there, just that I've not been looking for them.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||Jim Harbaugh coached exactly||
Jim Harbaugh coached exactly one I-A program. There he has been successful. Here he might not be. Instead of automatically assuming that his Stanford record portends greatness here, perhaps we should consider the alternative: that his Stanford success is due to circumstances that can't be replicated here like playing in a weak conference, ect, ect.
Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of RR, but logic like this just annoys me. Especially considering that the situations between RR and JH are so similar. JH at stanford has been, in chronological order 4-8, 5-7, 8-4, 11-1. I guess he had 2 more wins in his first three years, but that could also be an artifact of playing in the PAC 10 instead of the big 10. And where did that "elite coaches make leaps in year 2" thing come from? Examples?
|3 years 34 weeks ago||2. things||
1. That there are two opposing camps is not the point. That there May or may not be reason to fire RR was not the point. The point i was making is that the OP is accusing one side of a complicated argument of confirmation bias while adamantly denying that any such bias exists on HIS/HER side. It certainly does exist on both
2.I've had the opposite situation. Most people I know are adamant RR supporters. This illustrates the problem with small, anecdotal samples. Other sources of data, namely Internet polls are plagued with issues. First, they tend to be self selecting. A Freep poll is probably much more adamantly anti RR than the mgoblog poll. Second, most of these polls are untrustworthy due to being onn the Internet, subject to all kinds of shenanigans, like pharygulation.
Anyways, I really haven't seen many vicious attacks on the fire RR crowd, but Im a not all that into the debate, so maybe I'm just missing them. I've noticed a few people join the mgoboards just to make making ridiculous claims about "This is MICHIGAN" but Not much outside of that.
If you think this debate is heated, look up the comments to any anti--vaccination post. THAT is a war zone. In comparison, this is just laser tag. :)
|3 years 34 weeks ago||The lack of middle ground iIs||
The lack of middle ground iIs an artifact of this being the Internet, I think. Most Internet Debates tend to devolve into opposing camps shouting at each other. Well, Internet debates and. Us politics, apparently.
That's kind of why this OP bugged me. He was complaining loudly how nobody was listening, but when somebody said "woah, this goes both ways" and the OP flatly denied any confirmation bias.
Newsflash: we're all susceptible to bias. Thats why I like how most mgoblog commenters focus on DATA. Data doesn't lie. It can be interpreted in different ways, and you can put different values on different data points (see:points vs yards below) but the data is the data. It isn't just handwaving and band standing.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||MGoDubbleBubble||
I have to agree with some of the other commenters that there is a double bubble here. There are cerrtianly people who are so fervently pro-RR that any attempt to convince them is futile.
There are also people who are so fervently anti-RR that any attept to convince them is futile. I don't know if you saw the "f...spartan bob" mess on the 13 year old thread, but that guy was an idiot, and no amount of logic or reasoning would have mattered in convincing him why RR should stay when his reason for firing RR is "THIS IS MICHIGAN!" (in b4 Leonidas)
I think this is really just a small example of a really large trend in human interaction. People in ANY argument tend to ignore the other sides reasoning. Look at politics, religion, sports. Hell, ANYTHING.
Here, just read this: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/23/confirmation-bias/
Conformation bias is basically what you're talking about, and it affects both sides of any argument.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||weird derivatives||
We could all just do the mathematician/engineer/super nerd thing and make some weird derivation that includes both yards AND points. Somebody needs to do the math on this one to calculate points per yards from starting field position to endzone, or TDs per drive or some other arcane statistical tomfoolery.
Because yes: our special teams blows. It suppresses our point totals in ways that make the offense look worse than it is.
Because yes: our offense has a problem with efficiency, getting frustratingly small returns on gigantic yardage numbers.
This argument will never end, because neither one of you is wrong.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||I see you, and raise.||
|3 years 34 weeks ago||In seriousness||
Shouldn't profitgoblue be subject to supervision to the MGoBrian, our Fearless Leader and Blogger-in-Chief?
|3 years 34 weeks ago||I will ignore all the||
I will ignore all the reasonable things in the comment above in order to use fearmongering and falsehoods to promote my political and social ideologies!
Ed--I think I'm done now. :) Got it all out of my system.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||beating the MGoDeadHorse||
Enforcement of this act will cost untold trillions and will run up the national MGoDebt! If this act is passed, profitgoblue will establish "death panels" that will have sole control over what comments are fine-worthy.
This act will cause further MGoRegulation and will be the death of all the MGoSmallBuisiness in America!
|3 years 34 weeks ago||rabble rabble||
If this act is passed I will decry it as an unforgivable attack on our civil liberties, despite my total support for the MGoPATRIOT act.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||Search comitte?||
Are you talking about the search comitte as in the one that eventually hired RR? I thought that was Bill Martin still?
|3 years 34 weeks ago||*ahem*||
That is all.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||Re: the duke thing||
Agreed that the duke thing was a gigantic ****storm, and those guys got a lot of crap for misconduct they didn't do. That said, any allegation of sexual assault needs to be taken very, very seriously, and there is a proper way to deal with this accusation.
I'm not saying that allegations are the same as convictions. They are not. Nor should we pass judgement on a person before facts have been found.
I am saying, however, that a football coach should not make light of the accusation of sexual assault against one of his players. He should also ensure that the player cooperates fully with the police investigation. If the player refuses to cooperate, he needs to be ejected from the team.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||No, but||
We also don't want our coach getting fired after, say, punching a Clemson defensive back in the face either.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||True||
To reprhase: more tension than between south carolina and new york circa 1861
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Ugh, i can't believe I have to defend JH, but...||
...Let me play devils advocate for a bit:
there isn't anything illegal about this. And as importantly, even if you were to try and make it illegal, it would be a nightmare to enforce (prove a person isn't* really* cramping or has a stinger).
For all the poetics we like to go on about when it comes to sportsmanship and amateurism, lets be honest, the NCAA is about one thing and that is winning. The only reason we're even talking about RR and JH is because RR didn't get 9 or 10 wins. The win at all cost attitude exists because we, the fans, demand wins more than almost anything. Do you think that Bama fans care that about Saban abusing medical scholarships? I may be wrong on more than one point there, basic points are sec coach over recruiting. Brian mentions it from time to time.
It would be really hard to prove definitively that a player faking an injury from tm e to time would disrupt a smoking offense like Oregons to the extent that it would cost them the game. But you can bet that if it had allowed Stanford to win, there would be a large portion of the Stanford fan base that would be okay with it, despite the vilification of the outside world.
To reiterate: I'm not a fan of faking injuries. My two favorite sports, hockey and rugby, are renowned for the toughness of their players and the idea of faking injuries is anethema--just google bloodgate. I'm just curious to see this argument, discussion play out.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||I was going to make indignant||
I was going to make indignant demands about Stanford's seating capacity, but I figured I'd save the time and google it. According to wikipedia, it's 60,000, and the point i was going to make is preemptively moot.
Plus one to you!
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Agreed.||
I co-sign this, but with the addendum that if any player ever deliberately drops a catchable ball in attempt to draw an interference flag, they should be tarred and feathered.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Nnnoooo....I dont' think so...||
I think this thread is the 'ol bait and switch.
If it's a thread about faking injuries, that's one thing. But when the start of the thread is "Isn't faking injuries terrible? You know who does that? JIM HARBAUGH!!" it's not quite the same. That is doubly true considering the general climate around here rivals that of South Carolina circa 1861.
For the record, I'm a big hater of faking injuries. I play hockey, where you are measured against guys who lose teeth, get stitches, and still score the game winning goal in OT. I'm convinced that RR deserves another year, and I'm no fan of Harbaugh after the crap he talked about UM back in 2007.
Even with all that, this thread is just mudslinging.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||I think you're||
I think you're misunderstanding the sentiment. My personal take before the season was not a vegas style statement that "I expect 7 wins," but rather the conditional "I expect at least 7 wins next year or RR gets canned."
And now that my expectations have been met, I will expect more next year, namely >9 wins.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Apologies for double post.||
Apologies for double post.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Taking Koger up on his offer.||
I've asked Koger for his address. My plan is to meet him face to face, mano-a-mano, then get on the bus to Ashleys or the Jug and buy him whatever beer or whiskey he wants.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Taking Koger up on his offer.||
I've asked Koger for his address. My plan is to meet him face to face, mano-a-mano, then get on the bus to Ashleys or the Jug and buy him whatever beer or whiskey he wants.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Yeah, but at least those are||
Yeah, but at least those are all at least on the proper side of the Mississippi...
|3 years 35 weeks ago||geography fail.||
>Texas Christian University
|3 years 35 weeks ago||From the standpoint of my||
From the standpoint of my fandom, no, its never acceptable to lose to MSU or OSU. but you have to distance yourself from your raging inner fanboy and look at the real world. I mean, of course it isnt okay to be 0-4 against OSU, but hell, we're *already* 0-4 against osu. The last time we beset the buckeyes was what, 2003?
I'm not talking about what my "inner fan" wants. I'm talking about what are *reasonable* minimum expectations of progress that RR has to make to keep his job for 2012, (assuming he has it in 2011).
|3 years 35 weeks ago||I do, in fact. A 9-3 season||
I do, in fact. A 9-3 season or a 10-2 would be awesome.
The reason for the hyperbole is that I was trying to counter the snide "are you high" comment with counter-snide of my own.
I was hoping that the two snide comments would undergo the fabled snide/counter snide interactions, annihilating each other and converting their masses to awesome.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||My vote?||
The entire RR debate. None of us have any idea what DB is going to do re: Rich Rod. And frankly it's really ruining my mgoblog experience as it just encourages rampant trolling and flaming.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||I said "reasonable" not "ideal"||
Okay...when did an 8 win season become a bad thing? Considering the team is still in what could only be described as "rebuilding mode" after pretty much every good player not named "Graham" left in 2008...
I'm not saying that wouldn't be a disappointment, I'm saying if they get a game completely robbed from them by some weird circumstances, like a surefire td being denied or whatever. If something that is clearly outside the teams control (entire first string offense struck by lightning) costs them a win I wouldn't hold it against them.
But oh, I forgot, every season that isn't 13-0 and a national championship is UNACCEPTABLE regardless of context.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Revised expectations||
I think most reasonable people expected 7-5. Offense turned out to be much better than expected, defense turned out Much worse.
Expectations for future: win bowl game
Is that reasonable?
|3 years 35 weeks ago||What I hate about the buckeyes.||
2-10: see No 1.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Call my friends back home in||
Call my friends back home in Michigan gibbering incoherently, of which only a few words would be discernible, those being some variation of "Denard" "sweater vest" "splendiferous" and, bizarrely "turpentine."
|3 years 35 weeks ago||If Christmas could come early, I'd ask for just one thing:||
To crush my enemies. To see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
But something tells me that probably isn't going to happen. Alas.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||A request.||
I think I speak for everybody when I humbly request a Lloyd Brady wallpaper. He has been the single most consistent factor in all of Michigan football this year, save my love for Denard, and deserves to be honored for time immemorial.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Minus one for channeling a||
Minus one for channeling a sparty fan.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Christopher Moore. Author of||
Christopher Moore. Author of weirdly absurdist novels Fool and A Dirty Job. Very funny, but I always have to temper my love for his prose with my hatred of his education. It's a fine balance.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Disagree with you on one point||
I dont' know if PPD is a fair way to compare the offense to other teams.
1. First and most obviously: our FG kickers blow. That is undoubtedly suppressing our PPD in relation to pretty much every other team. I guess you could say that's part of the offense (I always thought of place kicking as special teams) but it's hardly the fault of Denard and Co, who are the ones gaining all the yards for use in that metric.
I wonder what each team's PPD would be if you removed points gained from FG from all Big10 teams (including UM)? This would allow us to compare TDs per drive, which is a way to isolate the offense from the kicking units.
2. PPD have no correlation to the teams ability to move the ball down the field, simply with their ability to get points. Take a hypothetical where through some stroke of brilliant luck, a team's offense always got the ball on the opponents 10 yard line (The other team's punter is really, REALLY terrible ^.^). They would probably have a really high PPD, but that wouldn't tell you much about the ability of the offense because the field is so short.
Granted, I'd probably take that situation, but nobody has punters that bad in real life, right? Ideally there'd be an even more refined metric to measure points per drive per yard from start of drive to end zone. Or PPDPYFSoDtEZ for short.
3. I think we can all agree that the PRIMARY reason we're below .500 is the fact that our defense couldn't stop a bag of drowning kittens if it was about to crush another, EVEN SADDER bag of drowning kittens. Defensive incompetence is more than sufficient to explain our losses.
Blaming the offense when it's averaging 30+ points and 450-odd yards / game (compiled in post way below) is like the Kaiser blaming the Reichsarmee for not winning the Battle of Jutland*. I mean, the german army almost never lost a battle in WWI but were starved out because the Kriegsmarine couldn't break the British blockade.
I'm not saying whether this is a reason to keep or fire RR. That's a value judgement for each person to make. But to say that the offense isn't good, despite most standard accepted statistical measures saying "They're pretty good,' by invoking a weird derivitive strikes me as a bit disingenious. Especially when the defensive %@#$-storm is more than enough to explain our losses.
*This may have been the most esoteric similie I've ever made...but it kind of works. Hell, I'm gonna run with it.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||...||
Plus one for the Patrick Roy reference.
Especially amazing considering you appear to be from Atlanta, where hockey is little more than a mythical idea played by polar bears than an actual game played by real, live northerners.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||There's this guy...||
I--I think his name is, like, Date or Fate or Kate or something. I hear he's doing pretty okay when he gets to play?
I'm just messing with you. But honestly, It looks to me that while Denard takes this offense from good to OMG WOWZORS (IMHO anyways) I think with forcier we'd still have a pretty decent offense. The guy has what can only be described as "sick moves" despite not having the top end speed of robinson.
(I hear that ILL linesman is still looking for his jockstrap after Forcier juked him in the OT)
|3 years 35 weeks ago||also:||
I would feel rather sheepish if you were just asking a dumb rhetorical question.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Oh, I don't know...||
If I'm reading this correctly, your hypothesis is "More Film = lower offensive production." If we want to investigate that claim, we can do so without comparing UM to other teams, simply by comparing it to itself. I tallied the (points for) and (total yards) for each game and averaged them.
If your assumption is correct, we expect that teams with more film will allow fewer points and fewer yards than each team previous, since they've got more film to use to figure the offense out.
Stats taken from ESPN box scores:
UCONN 30 pts, 473 yds
ND 28 pts, 532 yds
UMASS 42 pts 525 yds
BG 65 pts, 721
IND 42 pts 574 yds
MSU 17 pts 377 yds
IOWA 28 pts 522 yds
PSU 31 pts 423 yds
ILL 45 pts (reg) ~ 600 yds (total was 676)
PUR 27 pts, 395 yds
WISC 28 pts 442 yds
MEAN Points for: 35 total yards: ~500
MEAN(Big10) 31 pts., total yards ~476
MEAN(Big10-PUR) points for: 32, total yards: ~490 (Removed becasue weather was so different from most other games)
1. I don't think the data supports your hypothesis that more film -> less offense. Wisconsin had a LOT more film than MSU against more "quality" opponents, so we would expect a MUCH better day from the Wisconsin D. Yet MSU was able to put a lid on the Michigan Offense more adeptly than Wisconsin, Iowa, or PSU. Also, teams like ILL got crushed by UMs offense despite having lots of film showing the UM Offense having "bad" days vs. MSU, IOWA, and PSU.
2. There seems to be a slight downward trend as the season trails off, but more data would be required to determine if A. it is a real effect or my perception, and B. whether this is explained entirely by increased quality of our opponents defenses.
3. take with a grain of salt, as this has a small sample size and does not take into account the quality of opponent defense. I assume that teams like MSU, PSU, IOWA, and WISC and ILL are all roughly equivalent on defense, which is probably not true.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||just leave it...||
Anybody who's complaining about the offense is either trolling or has been been watching games from 2008 by accident on their DVR.
The offense is not this team's problem. This teams problem is that the defense couldn't stop a sack of drowning kittens. The offense is this teams saving grace and our shining beacon of hope.
Anyways, insert relevant comment about lies, damn lies, and statistics here.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||You mean the one...||
...that waters our artificial turf?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||So what you're saying is...||
Our offense isn't as good as the stats say they are?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Really?||
Bold AND italics?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||This guy...||
is totally gettin' some EVERY day.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||With respect:||
Despite all odds, those
Who stayed are champions.
In my heart, at least.
(maybe I say it weird, but champions ends up being a 4 syllable word.)
|3 years 36 weeks ago||That third michigan goal...||
was awesome. I really loved how the ref obviously knows where the puck is and just watches, waits, and blows the goal despite every other player on the ice thinking it was caught up in somebody's pads.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||For me it would take...||
Obi Ezeh transforming overnight into the. Second Coming of Llamar Woodley.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||More importantly||
4-1 against schools in states beginning with the letter I
|3 years 37 weeks ago||I dunno...||
I always like to see a little rugby introduced into my football. Next we'll have the qb throwing in to the WRs at the lineout and the linebackers feeding the ball crooked into the scrums. Also: Could anybody imagine having Lewan as a tighthead prop? Dude would be turning scrums and hating donkeys forever.
But seriously, I'm okay iwth it. It means they WANTED TO WIN. I like seeing that kind of dedication to winning. I approve of doing everything you can to score. The only reason we're not saying what a great decision it was is because they didn't go all the way for the TD.
I mean, if you don't take some risk you'll never make any plays but half-back isos and screen passes, and nobody wants to watch that. Well, except Joe Paterno.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Not sure I agree||
I don't think you're giving Vinopal enough credit for what is a really REALLY technically good tackle.
I play rugby, where the rules require wrap tackles of the sort made by vinopal in that play. I'm 5'8 195lbs playing against guys 6'2 230lbs and up, and being a small guy I have to be very good at these kinds of tackles or I'll be run over whenever the ball comes my way.
I can tell you from experience that a really solid tackle where you get up under the ball-carrier and wrap legs legs up like that doesn't leave the runner a lot of options. They can't fall forward because of how low the tackler is (being that low means you've got your entire body braced against them, keeping them standing), and they don't want to fall back, so they have to try and power their way over the tackler, which requires time.
If you can get a good low tackle like that, you can stand up pretty much anybody. The hard part is getting them to the turf without being out-muscled. :)
|3 years 38 weeks ago||Yes.||
ed--it's NICK LIDSTROM.
There is a small part of my brain that is ALWAYS thinking of Nick Lidstrom and wondering at how he playes hockey with such utter perfection.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||"That's not easy on the heart."||
Clearly a dig at Dantonio. :)
|3 years 38 weeks ago||6.5-1==1 the NEW new||
the NEW new math...
|3 years 38 weeks ago||"The reason UMs found itself||
"The reason UMs found itself in such big holes in the second halfs (sic)" is BECAUSE OF THE DEFENSE GIVING UP TDS ON 80% OF OPPONENT'S DRIVES.
If the defense was stopping even SOME of opposing drives, the scores at half would probably be more like UM 9: 10 OTHER instead of UM 9: 28 OTHER.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||obligatory||
(I'm going to hell for having quoted a jay and silent bob movie, aren't I?)
|3 years 40 weeks ago||OMG NOT MIKE HART feelings||
OMG NOT MIKE HART feelings may have had less to do with McGuffie's size and running style and more to do with his apparent inability to HOLD ON TO THE DAMN BALL.
Maybe I'm just looking through rose-colored glasses, but Smith doesn't seem to have anywhere near the fumble problems McGuffie had. And no, i have no statistical data to back that up.
Though fumble-itis was a pestilence that swept through the whole team that year, so it may be that I'm making him a pariah for the entire teams turnover issues.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||Let's be honest....||
Against this defense the cute wittle kitty cat would get at least 5 YPC and probably pull in a screen pass that went for 13 on a third and 9.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||well done commisar!||
I think the people who are clamoring for Tate are really getting ahead of themselves. Forcier is a great football player, and god knows it's an amazing feeling to have such a competent QB in case denard really does get hurt (this is a reaction from 2008 when we had no qb whatsoever, I think) however Denard is the guy. He makes mistakes from time to time, but so does Forcier. Robinson can take a broken play and make anything happen with his speed.
The difference is the dilithium, right?
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Agreed.||
Sparty might just win the worst uniform of the Big10 this year.
I mean, that olive green thing with the white shouders and bizzare pant stripes? If M ever does anything like that I will join the revolution.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Granpa Simson played rugby?||
Granpa Simson played rugby?
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Also:||
What the **** is the relevance of men's basketball? If we're bringing random outside sports lets talk hockey, lacrosse, skulling, rugby, fencing. Hell, why stop at real sports? I bet the UM Pokemon team would totally kick sparty's ass!
|3 years 42 weeks ago||More like dueling||
More like dueling condescension.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Really? I've been thinking||
Really? I've been thinking that tackling hasn't really been the super-white-hot-rage inducing issue this year as it was last year. They've not been perfect, but at least they aren't blowing EVERY TACKLE like last year. There've been some concerns, sure--that long TD Notre dame got because of a horrible angle by Gordon--but the problem is that opposing recievers are getting the ball with nobody within 5 yards of them
Honestly, given the improvement between this year and last year, I'll take it. At least this year they've been moderately competent. Some guys have even been really good. Kovacs has made some tough ones, catching RBs at full blast, and HULK MARTIN has been...well...HULK MARTIN.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Quote||
Topic name is a parahrasing of a winson churchill quote?
Well said, sir. Well said.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||not related....||
....but I didn't want to spam another thread. Well, it's related by virtue of being a meme.
Lloyd Brady sighting at around and 0:06?
|3 years 43 weeks ago||If my memory serves, male||
If my memory serves, male dolphins tend to be somewhat abusive to female dolphins during mating season, ganging up on them and roughing them up a bit.
FWIW, from wikipedia: "Sexual encounters may be violent, with male dolphins sometimes showing aggressive behavior towards both females and other male.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||No, and this is why:||
Seriously, what is it about MSU athletics that makes the players think this shit is okay? Beating up engineers, frat boys, now THIS?
Man, fuck sparty.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Why?||
My dear sir, the reason to write both "Sparty" and "root" in the same sentence is obviously to facillitate usage of the word "against."
I doubt Sparty could win this game, and they probably know it. Instead of wasting their time, they'll probably sacrifice this game to spend more time looking at UM.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||radio||
what was that Grand rapids radio station you can use to stream the M game with Brandstatter?
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Idea concerning above problem||
What if the bar were lowered to, say, 4 games, but only conference schedule counted towards bowl elligibility? Then any school could schedule however many cupcake games it wanted, but they wouldn't count for anything except as a glorified scrimmage
Biggest problems it seems that would cause would be
A. it wouldn't provide any incentive to schedule non-conference games like the UM/ 'Bama game coming up.
B. It would mean that mediocre teams in the better confernces would almost never go bowling.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||It's not just the money||
There's also the whole situation where you are rewarded for the number of wins, not the quality of them. Bowl games are worth a lot of money, and if a team can be almost assured of three or four easy home wins against vastly inferior talent, they have no incentive to refuse.
Hell, look at MSU or Wisconsin, they're 2/3 of the way to bowl elligibility having played only one team with anything approaching equal talent.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/u|
|3 years 43 weeks ago||question pertaining to dress code:||
Does anybody know how to paint wings on this so it'll go with my new #16 jersey?
I'm thinking maybe covering it in tape as a stencil and using yellow spray paint. If I had any skill at art whatsoever, I might try sewing yellow cloth on, but A. game is tomorrow. B. awful lot of work for a hat C. I have all the artistic skill of a doormouse without eyes, hands, or indeed a brain..
|3 years 43 weeks ago||ಠ_ಠ||
|3 years 43 weeks ago||...we hope.||
ed: to clarify, I'm just saying lots of stuff can still go wrong this year. Never underestimate the power of the Angry Michigan _____ Hating God.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||yes...||
...With our second and third string QBs.
That they are made of awesomesauce and pseudo-dilithium cannot be helped.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||honestly...||
I don't want to hear about Denard's religion any more than I wanted to hear about Tebows.
The players' religious beliefs are their own concerns, and personally, I couldn't care less what they believe.