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|2 days 11 hours ago||Doesn't even need to be a||
Doesn't even need to be a second SEC team they lose out to. Four spots for five conferences.
|2 days 11 hours ago||You think the Big Ten is the||
You think the Big Ten is the fourth best conference? May I have some of what you're drinking?
|2 days 15 hours ago||We match up even with them||
We match up even with them this year too. And they are still probably in the bottom third of the PAC-12
|2 days 16 hours ago||Especially when both teams||
Especially when both teams have a new OC. Utah is going to be a very tough game for Michigan
|3 days 5 hours ago||Utah is starting to look iffy||
This Utah game is starting to look like all sorts of problems for Michigan. They've scored 50+ in both of their games. Our offense is going to need to score and score often I think.
And watching this Rutgers game, I'm also becoming terrified of losing on the road to Rutgers. How awful would that be?
|3 days 6 hours ago||No way||
Your three contenders for the playoffs are MSU (blown out by Oregon), Ohio State (ugly loss at home to Va. Tech) and Wisconsin (loss to LSU). Of those three, only Wisconsin really has a chance unless Oregon runs the table and that's MSU's only loss. And in that scenario, Oregon is in, FSU is probably in, and an SEC team is definitely in. So you're left picking between someone like Oklahoma or Baylor and MSU. And their resume is going to look a lot better than MSU's.
I'm telling you, the Big Ten is going to be left out of the playoffs more than any other Power 5. They are that bad right now.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Big Ten is always going to be #5||
Unless they have an undefeated team, the Big Ten is always going to be the 5th team on the outside looking in when it comes to the playoffs. The stregth (or lack thereof) of schedule is going to kill every good team.
And your mid-tier ACC teams are a lot better than your mid-tier Big Ten teams. Did you already forget that Va. Tech beat Ohio State at home last week?
|3 days 6 hours ago||Takes both doesn't it?||
For Michigan to truely be elite, they need the rest of the Big Ten to be good. Look at Ohio State, they've rolled through their schedule (last 5 or so games excluded of course) the last couple of seasons, but I don't know if many would call them truly elite on the national stage. The knock is always that they beat up on shitty Big Ten teams.
This is one of the things that pisses me off about Michigan and Big Ten fans. They are way too short sighted when it comes to the conference. You should never, ever want the rest of the conference to "burn to the ground." The conference needs respect in the worst way possible, so you should root for the Wisconsins and MSUs to beat LSU and Oregon. What's good for them is good for Michigan. Because if the conference keeps going down the road its going, Michigan -- or any other Big Ten program for that matter -- can't build an elite program on a foundation of ashes.
|3 days 8 hours ago||Instead of ingesting them,||
Instead of ingesting them, you should sell those drugs you're taking. They seem like good stuff.
|3 days 12 hours ago||Do we need an advantage||
Do we need an advantage against Miami of Ohio?
|3 days 15 hours ago||If its cyclical, it won't be 1-2 years||
Here's where it get depressing, if you're relying on the cyclical nature of things to return the Big Ten to its past glory, you're going to be waiting a lot longer than 1-2 years. Think more along the lines of 10-20 years. These cycles tend to last for about a decade. The Big Ten had theirs in the 1980s, the 90s probably belonged to the Big 12, and the 2000s have been the SECs. Like I said elsewhere, I think the Pac-12 is positioned to be next. Lots of good QBs, lots of good talent and coaches...the pieces are there.
The Big Ten meanwhile is firmly #5 out of the five power 5 conferences, and the CFB landscape for the next decade only has room for 4 playoff teams. So I'd say for the better part of that next decade the Big Ten is going to be on the outside looking in more than any other conference when it comes to the playoffs. And that's really bad for the conference and recruiting.
And given the way they've pissed away the financial advantage they had with the BTN (they had more money than anyone for a while and could have bought every top coach in CFB...but did jack shit with that money) and the geographical disadvatage they now have working against them (people are leaving the midwest and going south), I think its really, really doubtful the Big Ten returns to relevance any time in the next 10-15 years if ever. Its that bleak.
|3 days 16 hours ago||Meant to say it was the Big||
Meant to say it was the Big 12 before it was the SEC. Can't edit from my phone.
|3 days 16 hours ago||It's all cyclical. Before||
It's all cyclical. Before everyone was big on the SEC it was the Big Ten. And if the SEC doesn't do well this year you might see it switch to the Pac12
|3 days 16 hours ago||You're out of your mind. Kids||
You're out of your mind. Kids didn't start going to the SEC because ESPN was talking about them. They went there because there's more talent in the south, it's warm, and they all dedicate themselves to football from top to bottom. Most of the Big Ten still treats their football programs like hobbies.
|3 days 17 hours ago||OK isn't good enough. The||
OK isn't good enough. The meet fact were claiming moral victory by saying we played "OK" tells you all you need to know about how bad things have gotten.
|3 days 17 hours ago||Deep threat doesn't matter if||
Deep threat doesn't matter if he doesn't have time to get deep. We need an OL that can give WRs time to get open first. And then possibly a QB that doesn't melt down and make bad decisions.
|3 days 17 hours ago||What bias? Honestly what do||
What bias? Honestly what do you want them to say about the Big Ten? It's been a shitty conference for the better part of a decade. Meanwhile the SEC has won 7 titles and the other conferences at least field teams that are competitive with top teams. If it wasn't for a massive alumni base that drives ratings the Big Ten wouldn't be talked about at all.
|3 days 17 hours ago||Well when it comes to being||
Well when it comes to being past their prime at least Corso has something in common with the Big Ten.
|3 days 17 hours ago||"Winner" Hoke is not. Corso||
"Winner" Hoke is not. Corso was off on that too. He was a .500 coach at SDSU and Ball State. That's not exactly a winner.
|6 days 7 hours ago||But it hasn't really happened before||
There's never been a stretch of this many mediocre seasons in Michigan history since like maybe Bump Elliot in the 60's. So since Bo came on board and Michigan really became the Michigan everyone remembers, there's never really been a stretch like this.
|6 days 10 hours ago||He played in the first game||
Peppers played in the first game, so no redshirt.
How do people not understand this yet? If you play a single snap in any season, it counts as one of your four seasons to play college sports. There are no exceptions to this rule.
|1 week 7 hours ago||Lot of people thought we had||
Lot of people thought we had no business being in that game either. 'Twas an ugly matchup and ugly game. But hey...we won.
|1 week 14 hours ago||We're all afraid||
The problem is that we've all seen this movie before. We know what happens a few more games into the season and its scary.
|1 week 14 hours ago||A Michigan Man win||
Maybe we can just all agree to change the meaning of Michigan Man to someone that wins. Which is really what it should've been in the first place.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Yeah Michigan has LOADS of money||
If they really wanted Harbaugh, they should and could offer him a 5-year $40M contact and it would barely effect the bottom line.
|1 week 16 hours ago||But, but...Hoke has a||
But, but...Hoke has a plan!
A plan to drive the program into the ground.
|1 week 16 hours ago||I'd be inclined to believe that, but||
I'd be inclined to believe that these are the struggles that come with being on the road against a quality opponent, but you have three years of evidence staring you in the face. The problems on this team during Hoke's tenure consistently trace back to coaching. Especially when it comes to road games. So, sure you could pawn this one off on youth, quality opponent, first road game, new offense, etc but you'd be ignoring tons of supporting evidence that traces it back to coaching.
|1 week 1 day ago||Michigan looked completely||
Michigan looked completely outclassed in every possible phase of the game.
|1 week 1 day ago||There's no calling on people||
There's no calling on people in these types of things. It's just speak up and ask a question. You actually have to be fairly aggressive to get your questions in. Sometimes it's a matter of whose loudest and keeps on talking.
|1 week 1 day ago||Exactly||
At some point you need to switch into OH SHIT WE NEED TO SCORE A LOT mode. And even if you're young, you need to try because you have nothing to lose.