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|1 day 1 hour ago||But that was at home||
Ohio State was at home though. If MSU was a home game, I'd buy into the anything can happen thing a little more since those kinds of flukey wins (BTW...I love that we're to the point where a win over MSU is considered a fluke) tend to happen at home.
And we still lost to Ohio State, so the anything that can happen in that game turned out to be the most probable thing that could happen -- a loss.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Institutional arrogance||
Due to the built in institutional arrogance, I wonder if Michigan can even play the underdog card. The whole "this is Michigan fergodsakes" and "leaders and best" doesn't really work with a "no one believe in us" mindset.
|1 day 2 hours ago||No weapons for max protect||
Michigan doesn't have the weapons to go max protect and expect to do anything. If they cram 9 guys back there to protect Gardner and leave Funchess and someone else on the outside, MSU has the secondary to shut those guys down. So you'd wind up with Gardner looking around, finding nothing, and either forcing a throw that probably gets picked, or he gets sacked.
|1 day 2 hours ago||That mantra should be dead after last year||
The "anything can happen" rivalry game mantra should be dead after last season.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Home v Road||
Factoring in the road game aspect is huge. Would be curious to see how we've done at home and on the road vs. comparable defenses over the last few years. Like how much worse have then been when facing a level 30'ish defense at home vs on the road.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Grammar mistake on my part||
Didn't mean to imply I thought things were moving in the right direction on defense, because we definitely weren't. Meant that as a program we were getting better every year.
And we agree that both coaches need to go. They are both failures in different/opposite ways.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Intangibles don't outweigh facts||
The intangibles here don't outweigh the facts that this has been a really poor team on the road and that they've failed in numerous back-to-the-wall situations. They have had their backs to the wall so many times over the last couple of seasons, that its just the norm for them. So there's no extra boost by being in a "no one believes in us" situation because no one has believed in them for a couple of seasons.
And I don't even know if you can say Michigan has talent on the roster. They have players that used to be thought of as talented, but expecting both sides of the ball to suddenly emerge as competent, let alone look like they are talented, is crazy.
Michigan's defense is vulnerable to smart and balanced offenses. MSU has that. Langford and Lippett will tear them up. And while MSU's defense isn't the force they were last season, they are still really good. And Michigan doesn't have the offensive firepower or competence to match them score for score.
|1 day 7 hours ago||We're definitely worse||
We're definitely worse off now than before. The defense was a mess under RIch Rod, but at least things were moving in a good direction. Under Hoke the program is steadily moving backwards.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Defensively, yes. Recruiting, eh maybe||
Michigan is definitely better defensively, but I don't know about recruiting. Sure they land high in the recruiting rankings, but the players they recruit don't seem to amount to much. Which leads you to wonder if they are recruiting the right players. You can really only say you're doing well at recruiting when you're recruiting players that turn into good college players.
For instance, if the head of your HR department was hiring employees with good pedigrees out of college and they all wound up being in over their heads once they got into the office, would you say the HR person is doing a good job recruiting talent?
|1 day 17 hours ago||Amazingly our offense isn't||
Amazingly our offense isn't what it was the last two years either
|2 days 5 hours ago||Same here brother. And I||
Same here brother. And I still have no idea why I clicked on the thread since I was expecting lame whining either way.
|4 days 20 hours ago||Man, that's the saddest damn||
Man, that's the saddest damn thing I've read in a while. I used to live on South U and Backroom pizza was the best damn drunk food.
Does Pizza House still deliver at like 3am? I was so proud of myself the day I figured out that we could call in our order from the bar at closing time, and then the food would be getting delivered by the time we stumbled home.
|4 days 20 hours ago||Brandon did stay quiet on it||
It was the student body president that leaked the news at the regents meeting. And its actually a smart move on his part because he said he and Brandon had verbally agreed to lower prices for next season. Having the news out there now makes it damn near impossible to not lower prices even though it was only a verbal agreement. And hell, it may not have even been verbally agreed on. It could have been a convo like:
Student pres: "Will you lower ticket prices next season?"
Brandon: "Sure, that's something that we'll consider."
For all we know, he could have just backed Brandon into a corner that he can't get out of on prices.
|5 days 1 hour ago||Yeah I don't really remember||
Yeah I don't really remember the last time I saw a Michigan RB carry a pile of tacklers, or you know, not go down on first contact.
|5 days 1 hour ago||The other thing I've noticed||
The other thing I've noticed is that other teams players just look bigger than ours. I know a lot of our guys are young, but other teams' RBs legs always look like tree trunks compared to our guys' legs, their linebackers look bigger, and their OL and DL look bigger too. I mean if you watch some of the SEC teams and compare their players to ours, it looks like high school kids vs grown men.
|5 days 3 hours ago||I disagree with those players||
I mentioned Lewis, but pretty much all of those players look about the same this year as they did last year. Stribling doens't even play this year, McCray and Gedeon barely see the field, and Taco is still just flashing the talent he has instead of harnessing it. Which granted is what a second year DE should be doing, but I'm not seeing improvement like you're apparently seeing from him.
Lewis is the only one that's made any sort of leap.
|5 days 6 hours ago||Combine star||
I think he could be a combine star. For as shitty as Michigan has been, he's probably flying under the national radar a bit. With his size and abilities, I could see him having a really good combine and shooting up the draft boards.
I just hope we don't break his body before then.
|5 days 6 hours ago||Pedigree maybe?||
Michigan State has started to develop a bit of a reputation for picking out and developing quarterbacks that can have success in the NFL. Cousins, Hoyer, and Stanton have all looked good this season. They even recruited Nick Foles (although he transfered after a year). So Cook would just be another in a long line of good QBs to come out of MSU lately.
Like it or not, MSU is basically Michigan in the late 90s at this point.
|5 days 6 hours ago||What team are you watching?||
Seriously, what team are you watching? And do you watch other games in college football? This is a team that's headed for 4 or 5 wins at best and a third straight year with a declining win/loss record. That's not improvement no matter how many pairs of rose colored glasses you have on.
|5 days 6 hours ago||By year 6??||
C'mon man...by year six? If you are a good coach and are good at developing talent, you should start to see players getting better in year two and three of their playing time. We're not seeing much of any of that with the players on the roster. Off the top of my head, I've got Lewis, Glasow (DL) and Henry as guys that have gotten noticeably better since they started playing. And that's about it.
Plenty of other teams see improvement and don't hide behind the "oh...if I only had 6 years..." excuse. You're either developing talent or you're not.
|6 days 2 hours ago||No, but its not "as revealed to ESPN"||
It doesn't change the information, but it does change that Illitich "revealed this to ESPN." Outside of the McMurphy thing, there's no reporting here. Just repeating what was said elsewhere.
|6 days 17 hours ago||This is what pisses me off||
This is what pisses me off most about Hoke. He talks and treats the fans and media like they are dumb. Like we'll just nod our head and say "oh...OK" at whatever nonsense he's selling because we're incapable of coming to some conclusions on our own. And to use the man's words against him, this is Michigan for god's sake. We're all pretty fucking smart. It ain't Buckhill Community College. We can read between the lines and see past your bullshit.
|6 days 17 hours ago||So essentially other teams||
So essentially other teams are better at adapting and playing to their strengths than we are and that's not fair. Good job coach. Good job.
|6 days 17 hours ago||And funny how that issue only||
And funny how that issue only seems to hurt our team.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Redshirts and medical redshirts are different||
But redshirts and medical redshirts are two different things. You have 5 years to play four seasons. Playing a snap of any season counts as one season. You can apply for a medical redshirt season, but that only takes place as a 5th or 6th year of eligibility after all other eligibility has expired.
Which in Peppers case, is probably moot.
|1 week 2 hours ago||Have you seen our 3rd quarters||
"Bad things don't usually happen at halftime." Uh...Michigan's performance in the third quarters of games would tend to disagree with you.
Although this was the first game since the Nebraska game in November of last year that we scored in the third quarter against a power 5 team. So...yay?
|1 week 8 hours ago||Would be the same or worse.||
Would be the same or worse. Hole only has next year left on his contract. So if they don't fire him and bring him back without an extension then you'll have an entire year of recruiting with a hot seat coach who doesn't even know himself if he'll for sure be back in 2016. Almost impossible to recruit under those circumstances.
|1 week 2 days ago||No we do know. He's not being||
No we do know. He's not being sat out to teach him a lesson because that's fucking stupid. I swear the more games we lose the crazier and dumber our fan base gets.
|1 week 2 days ago||What the fuck people. He's||
What the fuck people. He's injured. Hoke doesn't disclose injury information unless they are out for the season. There's no conspiracy here. Put your tinfoil hats away.
|1 week 2 days ago||Pretty much. Dude has had a||
Pretty much. Dude has had a lot of kickoffs to return the last few years. Wonder where he ranks on an average return basis?