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|12 hours 7 min ago||So were all if the guys I mentioned||
I get that each kid is different but all those guys I mentioned were considered Mich leans late into their recruitment. Green is really the only one I can remember that went their way. Maybe Ondre was too but I don't remember much about his recruitment.
|18 hours 30 min ago||Oh man...||
You know the wheels are starting to fall off the fanbase when Michigan gets compared to the Browns.
|18 hours 32 min ago||Can you blame them though?||
I mean, you can't blame Michigan fans though, can you? Michigan seems to lose out on an awful lot of these high profile kids that start out as Michigan leans and put off their commitment close to signing day. Off the top of my head, there's been Hand, Garnett, Diamond, and Treadwell. Derrick Green is really the only one I can think of recently that actually picked Michigan.
So in a way, being pessimistic is being realistic.
|19 hours 47 min ago||I think you mean||
I think you meant to say:
I appreciate your interest in the team.
But rather than simply commenting on something you posted, I chose to create a whole new thread on how to offer criticism using a lovely picture of a burger.
I enjoy burgers too, and like using pictures of them like you do.
Is that how we're supposed to do it?
|19 hours 56 min ago||Alternative?||
He might be the kind of guy that's better in shorter and more focused bursts. And you might even see him bring more energy in that role. Maybe. But I don't think there's a good alternative to swap him out for in the starting lineup.
|19 hours 59 min ago||I'd like to see him focus on ANYTHING||
He just seems to float around out there most of the time. I chalked it up to freshman jitters or whatever last season, but this is year two man. If you're floating around at the college level and don't have at least one trademark talent (shooting, passing, defense, rebounding, hustle, etc.) then there's no way you're going to cut it in the NBA.
And you're right. Rebounding would be an easy one for him to focus on. Take that athleticism and be the best rebounder you can be.
|20 hours 4 min ago||I thought this was about me at first||
I thought this was about me at first.
|20 hours 42 min ago||GRIII man...||
I continue to have no idea what the NBA hype around GRIII is. He doesn't really do anything well outside of dunk. He's like a plus version of Brent Petway. He's just super athletic and that gets you nowhere in the NBA without a high motor. And he definitely doesn't have that.
|1 day 16 hours ago||I feel like McDowell is Nick Perry 2.0||
I feel like McDowell is Nick Perry 2.0 If he commits to Michigan, color me surprised. Seems like a guy that's looking for a reason to not go to Michigan.
|1 day 16 hours ago||Georgia's guys are done for the season||
Murray, Marshall, and Mitchell are all done for the year. Plus who knows how healthy their other walking wounded will be after a month. Georgia will remain a far from healthy team through their bowl game.
But Gurley man...he scary. Especially after Hyde.
|2 days 30 min ago||Actual game action helps too||
Plus, if Thomas is going to be the safety of the future, getting him in some actual game action helps too. Looking into the 2014 season, starting a safety who's never played a down of live college football isn't quite ideal.
|2 days 33 min ago||Front 7||
I do like the front 7 next season. They lose Black and QWash, but everyone else returns. The young guys will all be a year older, wiser, and stronger, plus they can start to rotate in some of the guys they redshirted this year like Poggi and McCray.
I think the overall success of the unit though hinges largely on Pipkins ability to bounce back from injury.
|2 days 19 hours ago||Yeah, but look at this season||
At the start of the season, how many games was this team going to be favored in? Probably about 9. But they only won 7. At some point, you've got to use the recent past as a track record for projecting the future.
|2 days 19 hours ago||What do you think happens if they lose 4 or 5?||
Look, if Michigan is still going to try and pretend that they are an elite national title contending school, then you need to set the bar high. Losing four and five games a year just isn't going to cut it.
So with that in mind, I just don't see how Brandon can look at three straight bad seasons and say "yup, this is still the guy" because you can't sell "they're improving" at that point any more. Because if that's what he's telling you, you have to ask "improving towards what?" Following next season, if he's been improving the guys he's recruited and coached for three straight seasons, and they are still a four or five loss team, that doesn't say a whole lot about his ability to coach at a high level.
Basically, every season Hoke has been year, there's been some excuse for the failures -- coaching transition, scheme transition, youth/depth, etc. Next season all of those are gone. The only excuses left are the ones of his own doing. And they will be the same issues that we've seen the last three seasons, which means they aren't likely to change with a fifth season.
|2 days 19 hours ago||Exactly||
You don't pass up an opportunity to change staff simply because you have a fifth year senior who would be getting his third OC/QB coach. You do it because you think its best for the long term success of the program.
And its not like Hoke needs to switch from manball to spread. Just find an OC that does the things you'd like Borges to do, but does them better.
|2 days 19 hours ago||Exactly the point I was making||
Yeah, that's what I think too. If they go 7-5 or even 8-4 next year there's an awful lot of evidence built up that Hoke's not the right guy. It'll be year four for him in the program, and if you're going to make the claim that things are headed in the right direction, you can't do that with your third straight sub-par season.
Next season has to be a 9 or 10 win season or Hoke is done. He'll have exhausted all possible excuses and the vultures will be circling at that point.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Maybe they read right to left in Denmark||
Maybe they read right to left in Denmark and he saw 0-8 as 8-0.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Me too||
If you're Jackson, I don't really see the point of sticking it out one more year and then retiring. Unless he's going to hit some magic retirement threashold with an extra season. The time to walk off into the sunset is when your kid graduates. If he comes back for next season, I don't see him retiring for a while.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Double down||
All this really does is make next season a make it or break it season for Hoke. He's got to hit 9 or 10 wins. With a third straight 5 loss season (or even a four loss season really) its going to be awful hard to bring him back for another year.
He's essentially doubling down on his own future here. The time for changes was this season. Next season it will be too late.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Disappointing, but whatev||
Disappointing, but not surprising. Was hoping coach Jackson would at least retire now that his son has graduated, but I guess not. Turns next season into a make it or break it season for Hoke. That seat is going to get awfully hot after the first couple of losses.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Good post||
I think Hoke shares as much responsibility for the offenses struggles as Borges does. The OC is an extension of the head coach. As much as people faulted RichRod for forcing a 3-3-5 defense on coordinators and personal that weren't suited to run it, you've got to fault Hoke for doing the same with Borges.
Ignoring your strengths and playing into your weaknesses falls on the head coach. Given how good the offense looked against Ohio State, it makes the previous failures that much more glaring. And the success wasn't just "execution" progress. They were doing things they hadn't done all season long -- quick passes, screens, jump balls to Funchess, etc. So you can't pin the success on the young guys finally figuring it out in the last game of the season.
|3 days 15 hours ago||Devin Gardner||
Dear Santa, I want
|3 days 16 hours ago||Not up to us||
A) Its not up to the fans whether he stays or goes so being blind to something doesn't matter at all.
B) Fuck man. Do we really need another thread about this? What sort of regurgitated conversation are you hoping to spawn here?
|3 days 19 hours ago||Michigan v Texas||
Michigan v Texas would be ratings gold for someone. Two huge fanbases.
|4 days 14 hours ago||Holding calls||
Some of the missed holding calls were the most egregious too me. Don't remember the exact drive, but late in the game, Ohio State got away with a really blatant one a play or two before a Braxton TD. Since we couldn't stop their offense, those hurt more than anything else in my opinion.
|4 days 14 hours ago||??||
So if Borges doens't get fired, you would be in favor of hiring someone that does everything that he does? And that would leave Borges to do what exactly? Also, if Michigan were to hire a QB coach, they would have to fire another assistant. The NCAA only allows for nine assitants.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Bama back in the NC game?||
Depending on where Alabama drops to in the poll (my guess is four or five), if Ohio State and Auburn lose in their championship games, you could see Alabama back in the NC game. Especially if Missouri loses tonight.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Yup||
OSU beat an unranked team by 1, Auburn beat the No. 1 team. Plus, in the SEC championship Auburn will play a No. 4 or 5 Missouri team. That win will be more impressive than an OSU win over MSU and should give them a bump to No. 2.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Same here||
I feel better after this game than I did after UConn or Akron or even Northwestern. Its kind of an "oh right...they lost. BUT IT WAS AWESOME" feeling.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Different levels||
In the same way people got pissed at narrow wins over UConn and Akron, people can be happy about a narrow hard-fought loss. And considering the feelings from this game have to last until the bowl game, I wouldn't say its as black and white as a "pure failure" nor neccisarily a bad thing.