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|15 hours 1 min ago||Well said||
I forgot Hoke only has one more year after this on his contract. That makes this a make it or break it year more than anything else. No extension is a kiss of death and even a small extension still sends a weak message.
|15 hours 4 min ago||Coin flip territory||
I think if they wind up with 7 or 8 wins on the season, its coin flip territory on whether you bring him back or not. And if its coin flip territory you may as well fire him and jump back on the positivity bandwagon a new coach brings.
I will admit that like you say, its a little more complex, but eventually the results on the field tend to iron out the wrinkles of complexity. At some point, you are what you no matter what the excuses.
|15 hours 8 min ago||How could I forget?!||
Oh man, how could I forget that one?
|15 hours 44 min ago||No||
The term is hot seat because if you sit on a hot seat you want to get the fuck off of it ASAP. So if a coach is on the hot seat, its GTFO time for him.
And hell, in the south where its hot and humid, being on the cold seat might be kinda nice.
|15 hours 48 min ago||Hoke's status||
I would venture a guess that Hoke's job status is similar to a good employee that had a major fuckup at work. Everyone likes the person, they want to see them succeed, but if it happens again, its time to go because you can no longer be seen as that promising good employee but only as the fuckup.
8-5 followed by 7-6 is the equivalent major fuckup for a coach at Michigan. If they post a similar record, it shouldn't surprise anyone that his job would be in major jeopardy.
Personally, I'd be surprised if he came back after winning 7 or 8 games this season. I mean, at that point what incentive is there to bring back a coach that wins 7-8 games a year? By then that's the trend -- and 11-2 is the aberration.
|15 hours 56 min ago||Maybe a warm seat?||
Hoke's seat might not be hot (yet) but its certainly warm. And it could certainly reach a hot status midway through the season. To think otherwise is naive.
|15 hours 58 min ago||A Faux Hoke account would||
A Faux Hoke account would consist of nothing but tweets saying "Well...." and "TOUGHNESS".
Also images of pointing. Lots of pointing.
|2 days 9 hours ago||They, like many others, peg||
They, like many others, peg Michigan as an 8-5 maybe 9-4 type team. Which puts you right on the edge of the poll. Which is right where Michigan is ranked.
|2 days 9 hours ago||You could swap out Michigan||
You could swap out Michigan for Va Tech in your post and it would be pretty accurate.
|2 days 9 hours ago||We get the appropriate amount||
We get the appropriate amount of respect a team that wins 7-9 games a season deserves. Respect is earned.
|2 days 18 hours ago||Wouldn't surprise me||
Wouldn't surprise me given our athletic department. Either that, or they are trying to get the home-and-homes sponsored so it can be the Kraft Macaroni Michigan-LSU Cheesy Challenge brought to you by Valvoline.
|2 days 18 hours ago||Wouldn't be THAT soon||
Considering they are announcing series in the mid-2020's if Notre Dame were to come back at the back half of that decade that really wouldn't be that soon. Neither of these home-and-homes will probably happen in the next 10 years.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Missing||
Only Texas town on the list was College Station at #21. They are also missing places/schools like UCLA and Northwestern and they have Athens, GA at #39 which is WAY to low.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Hartford at #17???||
Whoa, whoa, whoa...they have Hartford, CT as the #17 best college town? As someone who lives near Hartford I strongly object. And they have it as the home of UConn....which, lol. Hartford is the home of UConn like Detroit is the home of the University of Michigan. UConn is in Storrs, CT which is a good 30-40min from Hartford (and in the middle of goddamn nowhere).
|3 days 20 hours ago||At least they didn't have||
At least they didn't have Michigan being in West Ypsilanti.
|3 days 20 hours ago||Motion: I don't care||
Motion: I don't care. All in favor?
But seriously...we're two weeks away from the season. New offense, new line. Are they going to be awesome? Probably not. Are they going to be good? Also probably not. But they are young, so even if they are mediocre this year, we still have two more years of basically the same line so they should be much better going forward.
Let's just shelve the debate until the season actually starts so we have some real world results to go off of instead of conjecture.
|5 days 15 hours ago||$65 would also get you a pair||
$65 would also get you a pair of sweatpants, a beer, two lapdances, and some shame.
|5 days 18 hours ago||No snap(s)||
|5 days 18 hours ago||No snap(s)||
|1 week 17 hours ago||Who's the dickbag reporter ...||
Who's the dickbag reporter that kept baiting him into trashing Michigan's talent level compared to Alabama?
|1 week 1 day ago||So if Michigan v Michigan||
So if Michigan v Michigan State was played at MetLife stadium to reach all of the alumni in the NYC/New England area, you'd be OK with that?
|1 week 1 day ago||Why you would ever take a||
Why you would ever take a game between two in-state teams and play it out of state several hours from either schools campus, is beyond me.
|1 week 2 days ago||What if its part of my job?||
What if its part of my job? Kinda tough to ignore it then, huh?
That guy's sarcasm or not, its a little hard to not be disenfranchised with Michigan's recruits to field prowess as of late. Hoke has had three classes of recruits play for him, and out of all of those kids really only Funchess has stood out. That's not giving myself false expectations, that's just seeing poor results. And yes I'm aware that these kids are all freshman, sophomores, and juniors, but its not like we've been a talent heavy team. So the fact that almost none of them have been able to stand out is a bit alarming.
So maybe I -- like a LOT of others -- got caught up in the Hokemania recruiting excitment and now when I read about the latest 4/5 star kid that's interested in Michigan, there's a large part of me that now thinks "who gives a shit" because if and when he ever makes it on campus, it's going to be a long time before he ever contributes to the team. If he contributes at all.
Recruiting is really only interesting when you're after immediate impact players. That's why Peppers is excited. But he's a rare, rare expception for MIchigan in that respect.
|1 week 2 days ago||^^^^THIS||
This is what's killed my recruiting interest the last couple of years. We've signed a bunch of heralded recruits the last few years, and none of them have amounted to anything as of yet. So why should I care about the next batch of incoming freshman or recruits (outside of Peppers of course because SWOON) if we can't seem to get anything out of them?
And its really this more than anything else that doesn't make me optimistic for the future of the Hoke era. He's got a definite Ty Willingham stink to him. Good recruits, no results.
|1 week 2 days ago||Set expectations to dumpster fire||
I've set my OL expectations at complete shitshow and dumpster fire. Hopefully they can exceed them and just be meerly terrible or godwilling, sublimely mediocre.
|1 week 4 days ago||You forgot they put an "M" on||
You forgot they put an "M" on the front on the helmets.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Maybe don't ask for||
Maybe don't ask for "thoughts" if you're going to get all sensitive about things.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan fans like to vote||
Meh, whatever. Michigan fans like to vote and skew online polls like this, so whatever. It'll be interesting to see how the Woodson/Michigan fan base v. V. Young/Texas fan base vote works out.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Shocked?||
I don't know if we will all be *SHOCKED* by the improvement under Nuss. I mean, we all kind of agree that it can't be any worse right? And that we will almost improve by default? So what would really qualify as shocking?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Yup. Nothing else matters||
All of the other things the OP mentioned are nice and all, but if we can't protect the QB and run the ball none of them really matter. Another terrible OL will kill the offense, and put a lot more strain on the defense. Simply being mediocre would be a big improvement.