Wow, what an opportunity for Tarris. About to see how truly poor development was under last regime here. Hurley is no nonsense and going to be unlock the beast Tarris truly is.
I have t seen much evidence that people want get rid of GWIII. Good news he said today he is coming back out of the transfer portal. Happy to see what he can actually do now with a fresh start and one year of college under belt.
What about Sanderson and all he gave to the program? Many many more years of his life and pittance of the salary and gratitude.
I do note in my post that Jace was one of the few that showed hustle throughout that miserable season and disagree with those here that don't think he has anything to offer as a basketball player. Totally agree on the bench vibes he brings, just don't love the staff stuff, which sounds like folks agree, that is for Dusty to manage and he seems capable of doing so.
Seems like playing for someone other than your dad would have been great for Jett and also could do the same for Jace. But doesn't take away what is some pretty clear reporting that those comments you mentioned were justified and call for the player to change course. I love that Michigan fans for the most part on this feed seem to be open to giving him grace. Just bummed Sanderson didn't get the same and don't have same degree of confidence this will end well for all players.
Plus, Ya Ya is transferring to a MAC school to get minutes. Jace's options are in that range, so I wonder if him sticking around has anything to do with that or he really is trying to make amends/change. Be cool if was and, of course, would totally respect that.
Totally fair. I was presuming it was undisputed that the player was treating the staff poorly and had a track record of same. I think the only undisputed part, by Sanderson and the player's dad, is the poor treatment during the "incident". So point taken.
That said, if Sanderson wants to come back, would you take him back? Did the university and program "honor" our commitment to him and his team? The "kid" is an adult and both in my book are Michigan Men. One seems to be getting a whole lot of grace, which ultimately may be the right move for the program, but it still feels weird to me.
All things being even (role model scholarship player of ex-coach whether contributing or not on court), I totally agree, but are you presuming the information about his role in the Sanderson departure and his treatment of the staff is not accurate, no? Sanderson was a huge part of the program's success and he is not here largely because of this player and the ex-coach (who I still love and respect as a fan). The behavior the player is accused of also seems very real, very entitled and very problematic for culture building. Very real risk that the classy move here (which I agree it is) invites some uncertainty and toxicity, and exit ramps are ethically available given background.
That said, my "trash take" is not totally congealed and I think the debate here is the reason I raised it..super torn on it and feel for the new coach and the player (and player's fam).
I guess if May is comfortable he'll treat new staff appropriately and that he can manage any toxicity...its not only classy, buy maybe a sign of how confident May is about his coaching/roster management abilities. So cool. If he is not, then I am sure he will honor scholarship minimally and figure it out (perhaps on bench or otherwise).
Regardless of what I think of the player (as noted I think he has more to add than others on thread), I also think its incredibly awkward for Jace, a young person playing for another coach who is replacing your dad of whom you probably thought should not have been fired and who was fired in part because of some of the drama you caused. I don't wish that weight/burden on any young man, Michigan man or otherwise.
Tough situation all around, largely of the player and ex-coaches doing.
That is a premature take. Cade has proven more than those guys, but none of those guy (except maybe Tuttle) have had the same PT.
I wouldn't sleep on 3 or 4 of them. I think Tuttle and Warren can give similar results, and I think Origi has potential to be on par with Bama's QB and offense from last year (early fits but with some experience, something far surpassing a Cade run offense in terms of explosiveness). Not a huge believer in Donegal based on small sample size. Worse case scenario we pull the rip cord on a five star freshmen who is supposed to be pretty darn good (would just hate to do that - vs just getting him some minutes - with this defense though).
So you are saying exactly what you are trying to disprove then, it doesn't matter where you go as long as you have recognizable talent. If JJ gets taken in the top ten with his numbers, he theoretically should be opening up that line of thinking for other QBs thinking about coming here.
Scouts can see when a guy puts up numbers at an air raid offense but can't cut it in the NFL too, or when its a Patrick Mahomes. Scouts are good these days.
Love the optimism and don't think it's outlandish to think we land all those dudes. Could also get kid from Oakland and would love for them to consider the two kids from Stanford who are perfect for May's system. Be immediately relevant again, or at least above middle of BigTen pack.
Read Athletic summary on it describing his approach to building the FAU program and game philosophy. Big internationals who can shoot 3s. Sounds alot like Beilein. Like it. Has a gut renovation on his hands. Empty cupboard. Blank canvas. Starting from scratch. Etc.
No we don’t (have to react quickly to stop bleeding). We have to rebuild whole staff and whole roster. After that season no one is expendable. Be great to keep Tarris, but even with him we are starting from scratch. Watching Dug’s last ten games, you can’t say with a straight face he is either elite or dripping with effort when adversity hits. Love these kids because they chose Michigan but we’ll be fine when we get the right program leader in the door. Until then, let anyone walk who wants to walk. Literally be hard to do worse than what just happened.
I know Oats had drama baggage too from Buffalo days so I presumed he wouldn't make it anyway. Dude is recruiting though and getting results at a football school.
Program reset needed. Was really concerned about AD's comments on effort after last game, given the lack thereof. But this was the right, albeit tough, decision given Howard is a Michigan legend. Hated it didn't work out, but it didn't, so you move on. Would have liked for that to have been before we lost Sanderson to a rival program, but is what it is.
Excited once again for the future of the program. In an NIL world with our success and brand, we should have an advantage.
Will always love that 1 seed team, the excitement that was bringing him back and fact that Howard got the Fab Five back in the building. Good luck to him in the future.
How to make this a "problem with the AD" situation...
!!!!!
“The effort never backed off, and for that I am proud,” Manuel said
That was some of the worst player effort I have seen by any Michigan athletic team in my over half century of Michigan fandom in any sport. Not a body on the floor, outrebounded, outtoughed and no one to hold them accountable. Effort means more than running fast occassionally.
Now no one to hold the Coach accountable. Wow. Furious.
Well Warde probably need to judge this entire year's worth of work on this critical head to head with PSU tonight.
Sarcasm aside, I wonder if we lose by 15+ if Coaching change could happen, OR if the players "play for the coach" and win the game, if it nudges Warde to keep him.
To me, Warde needs a commitment from Howard to overhaul the program (roster, staff and approach), ala nearly fired Harbaugh, or he has to go.
Eli over performed and still wasn't a "great" BigTen player. Not a MAC player at all, just a super solid contributor and worked for all he got (so maybe close to a all MAC type player when recruited). Took awhile. If Durral is on that level and that type of player, I would still be happy.
I think that is always the fear with change...the change. But I like to think we could land a massive coach who could restore the brand here. So many options and so many big names who get folks to forget about this debacle.
And if Juwan stays, he needs to tear down the staff and roster anyway. Tweaks will bear a repeat so we are in the same spot either way.
When our two main programs have an outstanding QB or PG we thrive. Our Bball program does not have an outstanding PG nor do we have depth at the position. I'd start there. The idea Wake Forest (who I watch a ton) got Boopie Miller from down the road at CMU and a 5 star in Sallis from Gonzaga, and we have no back up point guard show that our portal game and talent acquisition plan needs a massive overhaul.
Beyond the PG, then I would scour the portal for anyone fitting the mold of Illinois' Marcus Domask, our own (and my favorit) Chaundee Brown or Tennessee's Dalton Knecht, decent character dawgs who can play d and shoot threes.
After that, I'd find massive men 6.1o and up, who can rebound and gives fouls. E Reid is another guy from Gonzaga at Wake that would have been a perfect fit for us and teamed well with Reid.
BUT most of all, I would get a NIL GM just like the football program just did, and apply it to the much smaller basketball program footprint. We should dominate the portal with the resources at our disposal even given our higher academic expectations.
Yeah, that is premature. Have not given him enough minutes in live action to determine same. After the flub, he was actually decent drawing a charge and asking a nice out back. Howard mysteriously then took him out, I think for his son or Davis who have been putrid. Of course “he’s not good” if the coach plays him like that. Baffling.
Kayat plays well, and then Howard pulls him and doesn’t put him back in after we get within legit striking distance. Playing Davis and his son.
This is where the Coach has confused me all season (in addition to the three assaults). Hasn’t developed either Kayat or Washington at all despite not getting to ten wins. Beyond mere minutes both have shone a little something different than the guys who have literally given up. Not sure why he isn’t being asked about this. Bizarre.
1. I don't doubt it, given the type of boosters who are pros at giving money already down there.
2. I agree, can't believe we haven't lost more players and will be holding breathe in that last Spring window.
3. What is the best place for an alum to put their money right now if we want it go directly to NIL on football and basketball, not through Warde or does it have to go through Warde at some juncture?
Given the affluence, passion and generosity of our alum and fan base, no way we should not dominate the sport with this new set up. Excited to see what our new "GM" set up does and if it helps us catch up and moves Warde to a little more of a progressive and competitive place overall. Annoyed we didn't jump ahead when we had the opportunity (again Warde) but I guess we were too mired in sign-gate to chew bubble gum and walk. Frustrating.
I'd be really surprised if Michigan's HR rules would condone what was described. Sounds like the two did not fight and there was no battery involved. But an assault is essentially the intent to do a battery. Clearly, Sanderson, and all of the folks restraining Howard, thought there was a clear intent to physically attack Sanderson for some words he said about his son being privileged (after Jace was allegedly dressing down Sanderson's staff).
Atop it all, Howard was on a "no more strikes" policy after getting into with Turgeon and Wisco coach.
It's fair to allow the other side to be heard of course, but this is not a good look for the University, Warde, Jace Howard or Coach Howard right now. And it further damns the future of this program.
EDIT: On the sports side of things, and just based on how this all went down, I wouldn't be surprised if Sanderson wanted to stick Howard/Warde in the eye on more time by taking a job at his alma mater (he's a Buckeye alum).
I think he should of been fired at halftime last night, but he did demonstrate he could coach talent if it was in the door. Just can't develop kids, recruit kids or manage a college roster in an age and talent appropriate manner.
He'll probably be a great assistant NBA coach soon. And if he stays with us, he needs to have that Harbaugh "clean house" moment, and bring in some recruiters and more serious alternative voices. When Harbaugh was nearly out the door, he was forced to pivot...doesn't seem Warde is even talking about any of same or Juwan is either.
I don’t think it’s the worst thing in the world if we have significant turnover on this roster. Only the transfer portal can save us now, and unfortunately this staff has not demonstrated any sound judgment or competence when it comes to that final resort.
I have Michigan +7.5. Have them right where we want them. Lulling them into a false sense of security. No need to sub, need to keep dribbling into traps, lack of hustle…
Seems like we just lost his top recruit Ewald to in the ‘25 class. That sucks x2.
Moore struggling to “win” and do the staff management part of the job early.
He better insist on recruiting ringers (that can still coach of course) around Wink now belligerent NFLers that Wink brings in who can recruit. We know how that goes.
1. I loved "Biff" Poggi, and I love "Wink" as far as nicknames go.
2. Love he was architect of Ravens defense and our two last most successful DCs based their work on his system.
3. I don't hold him singularly accountable for Giant's failures...that team sucks.
4. I think he is going to be a kid in a candy store with our talent and a recruiting "plus" as kids know he was a huge NFL coach and that's where they want to go over being this guy's best buddy.
5. There is only one Don Brown, he's no Don Brown. See point 1 above, trust burly defensive coaches with nicknames.
Wow. OSU does not like losing three times in a row. Ridiculous staffing and roster moves.
So weird, as Chip Kelly is a better Coach than Ryan Day. This is like James Franklin hiring Dabo Swinney. Maybe this whole "I just want to call plays and develop athletes" not recruit and do NIL stuff is real.
He is not technically wrong, but he is also the one who assembled the roster, failed to develop/replace these players (some of whom he has had forever) and managed the program to this point. Can't have much sympathy for him as he has driven program into ground.
Still can help but think if our line up was more like Dug, Jett, Dickinson, Love and Shannon...be a different story.
Just watched Wake’s guard tandem tear up Syracuse. Sallis from Gonzaga and kid from Central. Michigan can’t get one of these guys? Modern collegiate sports need the equivalent of a GM to win. No way Michigan couldn’t get a MAC kid in our backyard at least, when we have no guard play, tons of minutes available, proximity and the University itself. Kid didn’t go to UCLA. Howard and Warde are losing on all fronts.
Newsome has Moore-level buzz around him. Said to be decent recruiter because of his age, and good communicator. Harbs loved him too. He is exactly the type of coach you keep around, develop and promote. Plus if we keep guys like Elston (and you combine that with the HC being a former Line coach himself), he has built in mentorship/help on staff.
I think we need some new blood in one of those coordinator positions. I am not beholden to the "we need some veteran and outside presence" in those slots (look how that is working out on the MMB program), but I do like the idea of repeating the trend of rising NFL experienced super star (ala McDonald and Minter) on both sides of the ball, or grabbing some SEC type folks for recruiting purposes.
Sometimes it matter who is in a role. I'd advise watching Michigan Made: Football Episode 2. You'll see both guys in action. Hebert was special. Probably best at what he does. Big loss.
We'll be fine and have a S&C program, and next guy up will get a chance to make his mark, but this one stings. Players absolutely love him. Wasn't worried about players on the D leaving before, now I am.
Moore best make a killer D Coordinator hire and do it quickly. Early test of this leadership and competency for the role.
100-%. Jace and Will both hit wing threes off of feeding the post, but for some reason we went away from what worked. Big guys bounced it off their feet maybe four times, took unnecessary dribbles. Dug has zero vision and got schooled by Perkins. Nimari and T Will were absolutely lost on D.
one of the worst performances I’ve seen since the Elerbe days. Maybe worse.
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Wow, what an opportunity for Tarris. About to see how truly poor development was under last regime here. Hurley is no nonsense and going to be unlock the beast Tarris truly is.
I have t seen much evidence that people want get rid of GWIII. Good news he said today he is coming back out of the transfer portal. Happy to see what he can actually do now with a fresh start and one year of college under belt.
What about Sanderson and all he gave to the program? Many many more years of his life and pittance of the salary and gratitude.
I do note in my post that Jace was one of the few that showed hustle throughout that miserable season and disagree with those here that don't think he has anything to offer as a basketball player. Totally agree on the bench vibes he brings, just don't love the staff stuff, which sounds like folks agree, that is for Dusty to manage and he seems capable of doing so.
Seems like playing for someone other than your dad would have been great for Jett and also could do the same for Jace. But doesn't take away what is some pretty clear reporting that those comments you mentioned were justified and call for the player to change course. I love that Michigan fans for the most part on this feed seem to be open to giving him grace. Just bummed Sanderson didn't get the same and don't have same degree of confidence this will end well for all players.
Plus, Ya Ya is transferring to a MAC school to get minutes. Jace's options are in that range, so I wonder if him sticking around has anything to do with that or he really is trying to make amends/change. Be cool if was and, of course, would totally respect that.
Totally fair. I was presuming it was undisputed that the player was treating the staff poorly and had a track record of same. I think the only undisputed part, by Sanderson and the player's dad, is the poor treatment during the "incident". So point taken.
That said, if Sanderson wants to come back, would you take him back? Did the university and program "honor" our commitment to him and his team? The "kid" is an adult and both in my book are Michigan Men. One seems to be getting a whole lot of grace, which ultimately may be the right move for the program, but it still feels weird to me.
Fair point...I think I moving off my "trash take". Putting my trust in the Dusty one to figure it out.
All things being even (role model scholarship player of ex-coach whether contributing or not on court), I totally agree, but are you presuming the information about his role in the Sanderson departure and his treatment of the staff is not accurate, no? Sanderson was a huge part of the program's success and he is not here largely because of this player and the ex-coach (who I still love and respect as a fan). The behavior the player is accused of also seems very real, very entitled and very problematic for culture building. Very real risk that the classy move here (which I agree it is) invites some uncertainty and toxicity, and exit ramps are ethically available given background.
That said, my "trash take" is not totally congealed and I think the debate here is the reason I raised it..super torn on it and feel for the new coach and the player (and player's fam).
I guess if May is comfortable he'll treat new staff appropriately and that he can manage any toxicity...its not only classy, buy maybe a sign of how confident May is about his coaching/roster management abilities. So cool. If he is not, then I am sure he will honor scholarship minimally and figure it out (perhaps on bench or otherwise).
Regardless of what I think of the player (as noted I think he has more to add than others on thread), I also think its incredibly awkward for Jace, a young person playing for another coach who is replacing your dad of whom you probably thought should not have been fired and who was fired in part because of some of the drama you caused. I don't wish that weight/burden on any young man, Michigan man or otherwise.
Tough situation all around, largely of the player and ex-coaches doing.
That is a premature take. Cade has proven more than those guys, but none of those guy (except maybe Tuttle) have had the same PT.
I wouldn't sleep on 3 or 4 of them. I think Tuttle and Warren can give similar results, and I think Origi has potential to be on par with Bama's QB and offense from last year (early fits but with some experience, something far surpassing a Cade run offense in terms of explosiveness). Not a huge believer in Donegal based on small sample size. Worse case scenario we pull the rip cord on a five star freshmen who is supposed to be pretty darn good (would just hate to do that - vs just getting him some minutes - with this defense though).
So you are saying exactly what you are trying to disprove then, it doesn't matter where you go as long as you have recognizable talent. If JJ gets taken in the top ten with his numbers, he theoretically should be opening up that line of thinking for other QBs thinking about coming here.
Scouts can see when a guy puts up numbers at an air raid offense but can't cut it in the NFL too, or when its a Patrick Mahomes. Scouts are good these days.
4 of the 6 are highly likely in my mind, pending admissions office and annual credits not transferring shenanigans.
Cade and Mike, not sure on. Essegian is a life-long Michigan fan, and Danny Wolf is reported to be a strong possibility.
I think the Oakland kid is a real possibility too, but Toledo guard was hot news for awhile, but is being pursued any many others right now.
I thinks going to be raining transfer (actual) commits soon now that two Assistants are in the door.
Love the optimism and don't think it's outlandish to think we land all those dudes. Could also get kid from Oakland and would love for them to consider the two kids from Stanford who are perfect for May's system. Be immediately relevant again, or at least above middle of BigTen pack.
Read Athletic summary on it describing his approach to building the FAU program and game philosophy. Big internationals who can shoot 3s. Sounds alot like Beilein. Like it. Has a gut renovation on his hands. Empty cupboard. Blank canvas. Starting from scratch. Etc.
I thought Kayat was almost out door already too.
If the stuff about how he treated the staff is true, Jace should be shown the door too
No we don’t (have to react quickly to stop bleeding). We have to rebuild whole staff and whole roster. After that season no one is expendable. Be great to keep Tarris, but even with him we are starting from scratch. Watching Dug’s last ten games, you can’t say with a straight face he is either elite or dripping with effort when adversity hits. Love these kids because they chose Michigan but we’ll be fine when we get the right program leader in the door. Until then, let anyone walk who wants to walk. Literally be hard to do worse than what just happened.
This one hurts more than Dug and GW. Ouch
I get it but don’t get it. Barely got minutes, it developed…with a new coach and fitted roster he clearly has a great chance to step up.
I know Oats had drama baggage too from Buffalo days so I presumed he wouldn't make it anyway. Dude is recruiting though and getting results at a football school.
Brian…
My wish list:
Explore, kick tires:
Not:
Program reset needed. Was really concerned about AD's comments on effort after last game, given the lack thereof. But this was the right, albeit tough, decision given Howard is a Michigan legend. Hated it didn't work out, but it didn't, so you move on. Would have liked for that to have been before we lost Sanderson to a rival program, but is what it is.
Excited once again for the future of the program. In an NIL world with our success and brand, we should have an advantage.
Will always love that 1 seed team, the excitement that was bringing him back and fact that Howard got the Fab Five back in the building. Good luck to him in the future.
How to make this a "problem with the AD" situation...
!!!!!
“The effort never backed off, and for that I am proud,” Manuel said
That was some of the worst player effort I have seen by any Michigan athletic team in my over half century of Michigan fandom in any sport. Not a body on the floor, outrebounded, outtoughed and no one to hold them accountable. Effort means more than running fast occassionally.
Now no one to hold the Coach accountable. Wow. Furious.
…
An unmerciful end.
incredibly bad basketball. Hard to be that awful.
Lack of hustle got dinged by Coach P at halftime. Commentators literally laughing at team.
Jace Howard was an awful and deserved no minutes while Yaya and GW got basically zero minutes of development time in big ten tourney.
Dug is checked out, jacking up shots, no effort or development.
wild number of turn overs.
glad it’s over.
Well Warde probably need to judge this entire year's worth of work on this critical head to head with PSU tonight.
Sarcasm aside, I wonder if we lose by 15+ if Coaching change could happen, OR if the players "play for the coach" and win the game, if it nudges Warde to keep him.
To me, Warde needs a commitment from Howard to overhaul the program (roster, staff and approach), ala nearly fired Harbaugh, or he has to go.
Eli over performed and still wasn't a "great" BigTen player. Not a MAC player at all, just a super solid contributor and worked for all he got (so maybe close to a all MAC type player when recruited). Took awhile. If Durral is on that level and that type of player, I would still be happy.
Starter on Day 1.
I think that is always the fear with change...the change. But I like to think we could land a massive coach who could restore the brand here. So many options and so many big names who get folks to forget about this debacle.
And if Juwan stays, he needs to tear down the staff and roster anyway. Tweaks will bear a repeat so we are in the same spot either way.
When our two main programs have an outstanding QB or PG we thrive. Our Bball program does not have an outstanding PG nor do we have depth at the position. I'd start there. The idea Wake Forest (who I watch a ton) got Boopie Miller from down the road at CMU and a 5 star in Sallis from Gonzaga, and we have no back up point guard show that our portal game and talent acquisition plan needs a massive overhaul.
Beyond the PG, then I would scour the portal for anyone fitting the mold of Illinois' Marcus Domask, our own (and my favorit) Chaundee Brown or Tennessee's Dalton Knecht, decent character dawgs who can play d and shoot threes.
After that, I'd find massive men 6.1o and up, who can rebound and gives fouls. E Reid is another guy from Gonzaga at Wake that would have been a perfect fit for us and teamed well with Reid.
BUT most of all, I would get a NIL GM just like the football program just did, and apply it to the much smaller basketball program footprint. We should dominate the portal with the resources at our disposal even given our higher academic expectations.
Yeah, that is premature. Have not given him enough minutes in live action to determine same. After the flub, he was actually decent drawing a charge and asking a nice out back. Howard mysteriously then took him out, I think for his son or Davis who have been putrid. Of course “he’s not good” if the coach plays him like that. Baffling.
Major regression. I could see him transferring for sure. Not developed at all.
Kayat plays well, and then Howard pulls him and doesn’t put him back in after we get within legit striking distance. Playing Davis and his son.
This is where the Coach has confused me all season (in addition to the three assaults). Hasn’t developed either Kayat or Washington at all despite not getting to ten wins. Beyond mere minutes both have shone a little something different than the guys who have literally given up. Not sure why he isn’t being asked about this. Bizarre.
1. I don't doubt it, given the type of boosters who are pros at giving money already down there.
2. I agree, can't believe we haven't lost more players and will be holding breathe in that last Spring window.
3. What is the best place for an alum to put their money right now if we want it go directly to NIL on football and basketball, not through Warde or does it have to go through Warde at some juncture?
Given the affluence, passion and generosity of our alum and fan base, no way we should not dominate the sport with this new set up. Excited to see what our new "GM" set up does and if it helps us catch up and moves Warde to a little more of a progressive and competitive place overall. Annoyed we didn't jump ahead when we had the opportunity (again Warde) but I guess we were too mired in sign-gate to chew bubble gum and walk. Frustrating.
I'd be really surprised if Michigan's HR rules would condone what was described. Sounds like the two did not fight and there was no battery involved. But an assault is essentially the intent to do a battery. Clearly, Sanderson, and all of the folks restraining Howard, thought there was a clear intent to physically attack Sanderson for some words he said about his son being privileged (after Jace was allegedly dressing down Sanderson's staff).
Atop it all, Howard was on a "no more strikes" policy after getting into with Turgeon and Wisco coach.
It's fair to allow the other side to be heard of course, but this is not a good look for the University, Warde, Jace Howard or Coach Howard right now. And it further damns the future of this program.
EDIT: On the sports side of things, and just based on how this all went down, I wouldn't be surprised if Sanderson wanted to stick Howard/Warde in the eye on more time by taking a job at his alma mater (he's a Buckeye alum).
Article on Athletic details some of the allegations. Howard should be gone before the weekend IMO. Unbelievable.
I mean he did win Coach of the Year too folks.
I think he should of been fired at halftime last night, but he did demonstrate he could coach talent if it was in the door. Just can't develop kids, recruit kids or manage a college roster in an age and talent appropriate manner.
He'll probably be a great assistant NBA coach soon. And if he stays with us, he needs to have that Harbaugh "clean house" moment, and bring in some recruiters and more serious alternative voices. When Harbaugh was nearly out the door, he was forced to pivot...doesn't seem Warde is even talking about any of same or Juwan is either.
Dude just said Rutgers scored 44 in the entirety of their last game. Against us they have that nearly in the first half.
And we still are not playing the freshman. We trying to develop seniors right now for their business careers?
I have Michigan +7.5. Have them right where we want them. Lulling them into a false sense of security. No need to sub, need to keep dribbling into traps, lack of hustle…
then we pounce.
These are the moments and results we as fans earn the right to be called true fans.
These last couple of losses were hard to watch. Need soap in my eyes. Yikes.
I took Michigan with 27,5 points. Still lost. 😡
Seems like we just lost his top recruit Ewald to in the ‘25 class. That sucks x2.
Moore struggling to “win” and do the staff management part of the job early.
He better insist on recruiting ringers (that can still coach of course) around Wink now belligerent NFLers that Wink brings in who can recruit. We know how that goes.
Perhaps Bill O'Brien should have held out for UCLA?
1. I loved "Biff" Poggi, and I love "Wink" as far as nicknames go.
2. Love he was architect of Ravens defense and our two last most successful DCs based their work on his system.
3. I don't hold him singularly accountable for Giant's failures...that team sucks.
4. I think he is going to be a kid in a candy store with our talent and a recruiting "plus" as kids know he was a huge NFL coach and that's where they want to go over being this guy's best buddy.
5. There is only one Don Brown, he's no Don Brown. See point 1 above, trust burly defensive coaches with nicknames.
Wow. OSU does not like losing three times in a row. Ridiculous staffing and roster moves.
So weird, as Chip Kelly is a better Coach than Ryan Day. This is like James Franklin hiring Dabo Swinney. Maybe this whole "I just want to call plays and develop athletes" not recruit and do NIL stuff is real.
Warde’s last act—>allowing a two loss Team 145 to be excluded from the Playoffs.
He is not technically wrong, but he is also the one who assembled the roster, failed to develop/replace these players (some of whom he has had forever) and managed the program to this point. Can't have much sympathy for him as he has driven program into ground.
Still can help but think if our line up was more like Dug, Jett, Dickinson, Love and Shannon...be a different story.
Seems obvious Howard is done this year or max next.
I am trying to figure out who our next Beilein like hire might be (available)?
a Hurley?
Chris Collins?
Crean (please lord no)?
Dutcher?
Wake’s Coach?
Just watched Wake’s guard tandem tear up Syracuse. Sallis from Gonzaga and kid from Central. Michigan can’t get one of these guys? Modern collegiate sports need the equivalent of a GM to win. No way Michigan couldn’t get a MAC kid in our backyard at least, when we have no guard play, tons of minutes available, proximity and the University itself. Kid didn’t go to UCLA. Howard and Warde are losing on all fronts.
Newsome has Moore-level buzz around him. Said to be decent recruiter because of his age, and good communicator. Harbs loved him too. He is exactly the type of coach you keep around, develop and promote. Plus if we keep guys like Elston (and you combine that with the HC being a former Line coach himself), he has built in mentorship/help on staff.
I think we need some new blood in one of those coordinator positions. I am not beholden to the "we need some veteran and outside presence" in those slots (look how that is working out on the MMB program), but I do like the idea of repeating the trend of rising NFL experienced super star (ala McDonald and Minter) on both sides of the ball, or grabbing some SEC type folks for recruiting purposes.
Sometimes it matter who is in a role. I'd advise watching Michigan Made: Football Episode 2. You'll see both guys in action. Hebert was special. Probably best at what he does. Big loss.
We'll be fine and have a S&C program, and next guy up will get a chance to make his mark, but this one stings. Players absolutely love him. Wasn't worried about players on the D leaving before, now I am.
Moore best make a killer D Coordinator hire and do it quickly. Early test of this leadership and competency for the role.
100-%. Jace and Will both hit wing threes off of feeding the post, but for some reason we went away from what worked. Big guys bounced it off their feet maybe four times, took unnecessary dribbles. Dug has zero vision and got schooled by Perkins. Nimari and T Will were absolutely lost on D.
one of the worst performances I’ve seen since the Elerbe days. Maybe worse.