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|1 day 10 hours ago||We're going to have to bat||
We're going to have to bat quite a bit higher than that unless some other things happen like:
1. At least a few of our guys get re-rated higher, and nobody gets rated lower
2. A lot more attrition occurs either with the underclasmen on the football team or with the current commits to the class.
Both of those are plausible, but #1 isn't necessarily going to happen, and #2 comes with some bad side effects. If we land Gary and then five more 4* guys on top of that and shed one 2* or 3* guy in the meantime, then we would end up at about where Penn State was last year, which was #15.
|4 days 6 hours ago||The MSU and PSU lines being||
The MSU and PSU lines being equal makes no sense at all to me. Those two teams are miles apart. I know that one is on the road and one at home, but neither the Big House nor Happy Valley have demonstrated enough home field advantage over the past decade to make those equal. .
|4 days 11 hours ago||Not terribly surprising, but||
Not terribly surprising, but still disapppointing. Could this have been a motivational ploy that backfired? Wasn't Carr known for shoving transfer papers at guys in this manner?
Pipkins wasn't a star but is this program really better off without him finishing his senior year? Can anyone say that they have seen enough out of the other guys at that spot to say that he couldn't even play as second string?
|4 days 14 hours ago||So does this mean that||
So does this mean that out-of-region fans won't be able to watch the show anymore? I have been getting it on Fox Sports Detroit for at least 12 years.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||If you had told me that||
If you had told me that picture was taken in the 1970s I would totally believe you.
I'd love to see the guy stay at QB so that we have a dual threat guy in the toolbox.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Tough question. I guess I||
Tough question. I guess I would vote "no", becuase they would have found some shitty justification for it in the end anyways. If we're going to have Rutgers and Maryland in the conference at least we can watch a few of those games without the Disney stupidity.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I came to the conclusion this||
I came to the conclusion this evening that I am not in reality. None of you people are real. I am in a lucid dreaming machine. I walked into Total Recall and I requested the "Indiana football fan" virtual experience.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Likely other coaches have||
Likely other coaches have either seen him up close or seen his film. 2* guys are almost always 2* guys for a reason, and guys with no decent offers almost always have no decent offers for a reason. People are in a very serious stage of denial about this right now.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||There aren't. The notion||
There aren't. The notion that we are brilliantly stumbling into a bunch of diamonds in the rough like somebody who found a secret lottery is a form of denial. There is some serious dissonance reducing behavior at work in this place right now.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Yes, alarm bells should be||
Yes, alarm bells should be going off. The ending of the 2015 class was a major faceplant. Harbaugh whiffed on every decent candidate on signing day except for the guy whose dad is on his staff. Since he was announced as the coach he has received 18 commitments, only five of which are four star guys, two of which are two star guys, and one of which is unrated because he was third on the depth chart on his high school team. Two of those four star guys are QBs, but we lost a four star QB decommit to our in-state rival in that time frame. Two of them are outside of the rivals Top 250. The lowly ranked prospects have offer lists that pretty much match their ranking. Harbaugh and his staff have opinions on some guys that are massive outliers.
Do I have unreasonable expectations? Butch Jones landed the 5th ranked recruiting class in the country in his first year, and they have been in the wilderness longer than we have. James Franklin landed a class with 11 four-star guys at Penn State despite having to put together most of that class under the assumption that they wouldn't play in a bowl game as freshmen. Nick Saban followed up a decade of disappointment with the #1 class in the country with his first full class. Brian Kelly's first full class was ranked #10 on rivals. Rick Neuheisel landed the #14 class in the country and UCLA was worse off when he took over than we are now (he had also been fired from two jobs). Jim Mora, Jr. landed a Top 10 recruiting class in his first season. That was after a decade of Karl Dorrell and Rick Neuheisel. Brady Hoke put together an excellent first class, most of which was assembled on the heels of a 37-7 loss to OSU and a 52-14 bowl game loss. Those are just a few examples. There are many more. Outstanding first year recruiting classes aren't the exception. They are pretty common.
What kind of class should we expect?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||He did have one super stud QB||
He did have one super stud QB massively skewing the results there. Hard to figure where Stanford ends up without Andrew Luck. Although Harbaugh does get full credit for finding and coaching him. His ability to put great QBs onto the field is beyond reproach. Alarm bells should be going off about the rest of his recruiting though. It took us a couple of years to reach the "stars don't matter/the coach knows more than the recruiting sites" point with RichRod, and we're already there with Harbaugh after only six months.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||At least we will maintain our||
At least we will maintain our dominance over Syracuse and Wake Forest!
|2 weeks 4 days ago||God IT'S ABOUT FUCKING||
God IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!! Even our tomato can BTN games have been 3:30 games in recent years.
That means that I won't have to give up watching a single quality game in place of Michigan football for at least the first three weeks. Hopefully, at least a couple more will follow. Maybe NW, Indiana, Minnesota, or Rutgers.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||This thread title gave me a||
This thread title gave me a heart attack. Why is there an update on Tryone Wheatley Jr? Did he not make grades? Did he get injured? Did he get blasted into outer space? Or, wait. He's just super huge. Phew. what a relief.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Alabama -- the school that||
Alabama -- the school that built a new weight room for a Florida high school that just so happened to have a couple of five star football propsects in the senior class who, unsurprisingly, attended Alabama.
Is there a program in the country with less of a right to complain about shady recruiting than Alabama?
|3 weeks 12 hours ago||Nice resume. Hopefully they||
Nice resume. Hopefully they can get a good decade out of Blashill like they did with Babcock and Bowman.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Wow. I never thought I would||
Wow. I never thought I would live long enough to see a recruiting class that makes me long for the 2010 class. This one is on pace to do just that.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||This -- it's one of the many||
This -- it's one of the many factors ruining gaming. So many mediocre or downright shitty games are setting record Day 1 sales nowadays. That people are going giddy over a 90 second trailer just because it has Inkblots music and "War never changes" is just pathetic. Social workers and drug treatment specialists have a term for this. It's "Enablers". It's when you are so accomodating or forgiving of someone's repeated offenses that you can be considered part of the problem.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Hopefully it won't be another||
Hopefully it won't be another boring and repetitive game where 90% of the content is procedurally generated, like every other Bethesda RPG of the past 10 years.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||We're battling the SEC for||
We're battling the SEC for Gary and that means we're having to overcome six figures of payola. If we land him I will be shocked. So shocked that I will start to supsect that nothing I see is real and I'm in the afterlife or a Matrix-like simulation.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||You can at least comfort||
You can at least comfort yourself knowing that even if he had stayed he probably never would have meshed enough with the staff to become an elite performer, and by the time he was a senior I would put forth the argument that Schilling and Omameh were performing just as well. Our 2010 offensive line was damn good. And even if he had been a great lineman, it would have been squandered because of our shitty defenses.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||WVU game up 399 yards per||
WVU game up 399 yards per game last year, which would make them the second worst Michigan defense of my lifetime.
Gibson was a DB coach for a decade before that and most of his DB units at WVU, Michigan, and Arizona were terrible. The year after he left Pitt the pass defense improved by 39 yards per game. The year after he left Arizona the pass defense improved by 59 yards per game and the year after he left Michigan the pass defense improved by 71 yards per game. When he was on our staff, Michigan's pass defense was porous even against really bad teams (like Purdue in 2008).
RichRod finally had enough of him after Arizona gave up 290 pass yards per game in 2012. A pity he didn't identify Gibson as the culprit a few years earlier. His career at Michigan might have been salvaged.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||This.Henson could have been||
Henson could have been a bigger flop than Ryan Leaf and he still would have made more money in a couple of years with in football than he did in his entire time with the Yankees. Leaving for baseball was an absolutely awful decision and you didn't need hindsight to see that. I was flabbergasted when it happened.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I have written this before||
I have written this before but...
If he had let Shafer do his own thing and if he had ditched Tony Gibson. Tragically, RichRod figured out what a shmuck Gibson is a few years too late.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Henson -- man that one hurt.||
Henson -- man that one hurt. I don't think there's any contest there. Not only was he leaps and bounds better than Navarre, but the circumstances of the losses to MSU and OSU in 2001 were especially painful. If not for Henson leaving for baseball, Tressel looks like just another clown who predictions blew up in his face and we enter the national title game at 11-0. It's double painful since Henson made such a stupid choice leaving, unlike McGary who is going to have a legitimate NBA career.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||He's got Jonathan Teows, Jeff||
He's got Jonathan Teows, Jeff Carter, and Patrick Marleau on a third or fourth line and you think that the guy is a genius for being able to win with that? Compare that to the third or fourth line from Russia or Sweden.
I'll repeat what I said above -- a chimpanzee could win with that lineup. It's insane.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||A chimpanzee could win the||
A chimpanzee could win the Gold Medal with Canada's roster. Canada was one of only two countries where everyone on the roster was in the NHL. Even Sweden had at least one guy who wasn't in the NHL and they had to draw some mediocre guys to fill out the roster.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I'm with ya. He's a good||
I'm with ya. He's a good coach but his NHL accomplishments don't really match his "best coach in the history of the universe" reputation. Given the insane levels of talent on the team from '06 through '09 a minimum of one Stanley Cup is what should have been expected out of that group and that's what we got. The '06 egg laying against Edmonton was just a disgrace. Since then, the performance of the team has been a "meets expectations" affair with only one playoff series victory in the past four seasons. The team has looked lazy, careless, and disinterested for long periods since the cup win and isn't really responding to him anymore.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Not for me, it isn't. OSU is||
Not for me, it isn't. OSU is the odds on favorite to win the national championship and it's unlikely that they will come into the game with a loss. Maybe not even a win by less than 7 points. 2015 needs to be about building a positive narrative for 2016 and 2017 recruiting. 9-3 with a few close losses accomplishes that, especially if one of those losses is to the unanimous #1 team.
2016, on the other hand, needs to be about hardware, plain and simple. MSU will lose some serious talent and OSU will be experiencing the closest thing to "rebuilding" that we will see as long as Urban Meyer is there. We will be loaded with upperclassmen, many of whom were 4* and 5* guys. After that, the team will suffer from the misses of the 2014 and 2015 recruiting classes for a couple of years. Plus, we haven't won in Columbus since 2000. We desperately need that win. In the last 15 years the only games that might trump it in the "must win" department were the 2011 OSU game and the 2012 MSU game.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||This is why the 'need to win"||
This is why the 'need to win" level for the OSU game for 2016 is 12 out 10. They will lose massive amounts of talent to the draft. Six guys in the first round alone? It wouldn't surprise me. Add to that all of the other guys who will go in later rounds and likely a few more who are good but won't get drafted. You're talking what -- a dozen starters gone? 2016 will probably be the weakest OSU team that Urban Meyer will have for the next ten years. Meanwhile, we will have a ton of fourth and fifth year guys left over from the 2012 and 2013 classes who will depart after next year. It's as "must win" as "must win" gets.