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|2 days 19 hours ago||I like pictures with no autographs||
That way the fans get to meet the players without having to fight with the guys trying to make a buck on them
|2 days 19 hours ago||I liked the team 135 thing||
So I think it's cool that basketball also embraces this. We don't have to dislike everything Hoke's done just because he isn't a great coach.
|2 days 19 hours ago||With the trouble media has had with FOIA||
It will be a long wait. Sticking on that point after all of the other criteria sounds petty on your count. Especially if Brian already stated that it was conjecture. I can see it as a plausible explanation. The explanation and timing that came from the AD is not satisfactory either.
Mo understand the buyout issue, however, I am hoping that he either steps down to not be the first to be fired or negotiate a lower buyout. I am also an alum and have seen enough in the business world to justify buying him out. I have had to deal with plenty of suppliers that were not up to snuff and had people make decisions to stay with them because of the cost to move to another supplier, only to end up spending more and still having to move to a different supplier because a decision wasn't made sooner. Brandon is hurting the bottom line with donors refusing to support his AD, and many fans possibly becoming no shows.
If the buyout is the only reason you think he should stay, I suggest you find a new argument to root for.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Interesting||
Your only posts lately have been about how Brandon has been treated poorly and how we should shower him with praise over the one thing he did that can be considered good. ( lowering ticket prices after making a massive hike and only coming to this price point after others did the research for him). You've also Ben trying to make his detractors less credible.
|4 days 11 hours ago||Good analysis||
It does now look like it was a planned screen since miller was so far up and Butt was out blockng at the second level. It looks like Hayes just got tangled up and Gardner didn't look to ensure he was where he was supposed to be. That is a lot of not executing in one play. It took a lot of badness to make that play happen.
|4 days 14 hours ago||I would have agreed||
but you put "regardless of coach". This looked like a 10 win team, but for the coach. There is plenty of talent for a coach that can develop players and work their system.
|4 days 14 hours ago||Frank Grimes and Homer||
This reminds me of the Simpsons episode with Frank Grimes. How he hates Homer sooo much because he hasn't done anything lately (Michigan Foorball *ahem*) but everyone likes Homer because he's been around so long. Grimes has to work so hard to get anything, yet Homer is the one who went to space (bitches) has a grammy (who doesn't, MSU) and has a nicer house (Big House) and a family.
I just have a feeling MSU is bound to grab some HV cables and....
|4 days 14 hours ago||We can't help||
that Dantonio brings it up every year.
|1 week 17 hours ago||Ugh, that Braylon gif||
makes me wish we had a freak athlete at reciever again. Wait a minute....
|1 week 17 hours ago||Spreads and Lines are for Vegas||
And like you, its just a friendly lunch bet. Probably spend more in gas just trying to get together to hang out.
|1 week 18 hours ago||I took a straight up bet||
with my MSU friend today because fuck it, that's why. I'm hoping that the offense has the same feeling. Keep Devin in shotgun and spread out the recievers. This gets more single coverage/ less safety help for Devin to Read, and also makes things easier for the O-line to block 7 instead of 8 or 9. When they do get on their blocks, they have shown to be ok to good at times.
I think Smith will have some runs, and I hope they let Devin run as well. With Butt, Funchess, Norfleet, and Darboh, there are still a lot of weapons on this team. I just hope the coahces decide to roll the dice and play with what they have, which is a lot of talent.
I also hope this is the game that we see the Dline really explode. Henry and Glasgow are a handful up the middle, and Clark, Beyer, and now Charlton all show plenty of chances for explosive plays.
I just am hoping that this is one of those, lets go have fun and play type games. Let Garnder run, throw, whatever. Were playing with house money at this point.
|1 week 1 day ago||They've failed to put their players||
In a position to win. Putting denard under center against Iowa put the players in a position that didn't allow them to win. Not taking advantage of a bubble screen when 9 in the box with cbs 10 yards off the line is not putting yourself in a position to win. Using the current punt formation is not putting your self and players in a position to win.
Brian quantifies the coaching x and o with RPS. I haven't seen us in a consistent RPS positive. You can tell us dumb non coaches that we are wrong about why Hoke has failed, but I don't see how a lot if these complaints are wrong.
I played soccer my whole life. In my last year of club soccer we had a new coach who wanted to run a 3-4-3 formation. We had not played this formation before and struggled all year. We practiced hard and our coach had plenty of previous coaching and playing experience. He couldn't make our last season of the year so my dad coached us. My dad doesn't know formations, and never played. All he knew was we wanted to play a 3-5-2 and had done well in the past. We ended up playing well. Our coach. Came back and (after hearing about our success) allowed us to play in the formation we wanted and we started to destroy teams and came a shoot out short of the championship.
Lesson is, it doesn't matter how much you know about x and o, if you don't out your players in a position to succeed, you have failed.
|1 week 1 day ago||So you are not arguing youth||
You said yourself that OSU covers this up because they have a running QB and admit that Michigan has a running QB that they don't utilize as such. This is a coaching issue not a youth issue.
|1 week 1 day ago||Again||
as someone stated above, you guys are splitting hairs. You keep saying he is not a failure as a coach (because he knows a lot about football) yet you then list off a bunch of his failures (punt formation, getting players to execute the game plan) that others have been saying make him a bad coach. I am on the bad coach train, because getting your players to execute the x's and o's is one of the main distinguishing factors of what makes one a good coach. Like he "coaches" his players to understand and execute.
|1 week 1 day ago||Thanks||
I also think its splitting hairs. Hoke has been a failure no matter what reasoning you put behind it (I still don't know why SC thinks he failed. He only states why he is a good coach who failed here and doens't give examples about why he thinks he failed here).
I also think that the Hoke is a a genius in the beginning is a little over stated. There was a lot of people that thought he was lucky (Hoke pooping gold meme). Going for 4th down was the right call, but how he converted it was more lucky than not a lot of the time.
|1 week 1 day ago||That'd be a long game||
as many of the throws would have been well past the guys trying to catch the ball.
|1 week 1 day ago||Not really||
There is plenty of talent and an OC and DC that have coached on NC teams. This level of coaching down players is not something one could predict. Especially from a guy lauded by all of these former players and paid $3-4 million a year.
|1 week 1 day ago||Any Chance||
of a Smith Rage meme?
I'm grasping at straws this year. I'll take anything at this point.
|1 week 1 day ago||Fair enough||
I understand your position.
|1 week 1 day ago||I think I am missing your point||
I think we are in agreement that Hoke has not been a good coach at Michigan.
He has made (or his team he assembled, it doesn't matter which) some dumb coaching decisions that have cost him games. I think you agree, based on the last statement.
He has an average coaching record outside of Michigan. No championships and under .500 record.
If this is what you believe, then what are the opinions on the board that are so different from yours that have made this board unbearable?
|1 week 1 day ago||compentent, albeit ineffective||
I guess for me, these are tied together. You can't be a competent coach at Michigan if you are ineffective. Either he can coach us to multiple BIG Championships or he can't.
|1 week 1 day ago||Fair and not fair||
I don't know nearly enough about football's details to understand why things don't work out. Even well learned football folks like you and Brian can struggle, just because you both have to make educated guesses on the play design to see who was responsible for what assignment. This makes me an average fan (I'd like to think I'm becoming slightly above average, because I read you, Brian, Seth, Mathlete etc., but that's really not true).
But that doesn't mean I can't think Hoke is doing a bad job at Michigan. I think I've seen you and other posters mention RR as a good coach before and after Michigan, but a bad coach here. If you can apply that to RR, then I think it's fair to apply it to Hoke. I think the frustration comes because I think games have been lost because Hoke (or someone on his team) is stubborn (call it dumb or whatever, it's a quantifiable results driven fireld Hoke works in).
I've seen plays that I know where the ball is going before the ball is snapped (jet sweeps with Norfleet last year). This is bad and dumb if I can see this. I've seen Denard put in as QB when I know he can't throw (OSU game with hurt sholder, I think he actually can throw well when healthy). This is bad and dumb if I can see this.
Yes Hoke doesn't deserve all of what is thrown at him, but he's also given very little for fans to grasp at. He talks about how they practice hard, and then throws 10 men out on the field (twice). he calls the fans fickle, yet rarely have I heard him thank the fans (which there are MANY) who show up to support and cheer for the team, even though there has been very little to cheer about.
He may be a good coach at other schools, but my question was about why he might be able to coach this team to a BIG championship. The very benchmark he gave us to evaluate him against. He has shown a decrease in wins as more and more of his players have come on, and has not won a championship anywhere he has been a head coach. It is fine that you and insiders see things differently, but it rings hollow when its tangential things, like I've had a beer with him, or i've seen him at practice, as these have little to do with his record and aren't things but a select few people Hoke allows into his inner circle.
|1 week 1 day ago||Thanks||
Appriciate the answer and honesty.
Hopefully you can understand that the majority of fans did believe in Hoke and want/ wanted him to succeed because he is a good guy. We just don't see the wins now or in the future.
|1 week 1 day ago||Have we stopped counting moral victories||
like the one against OSU last year?
|1 week 1 day ago||MgoBlog was mentioned as a source||
even though it came from a commentor and not MGoBlog, I am guessing that Brian wants to either confirm or refute this email. I mean, I know that this is just a blog with unverified verocity, but for some reason Brian seems to like to distinguish between fact and opinion.An antiquitated way to report things in the current news cycle.
|1 week 1 day ago||You lost me||
not sure if you agree now that Brian doesn't think he is a bad guy or if you think Brian saying Hoke is a bad coach means that Brian is being unfair.
Out of curiosity, what makes you think that Hoke is capable of coaching a championship caliber team? Do you know him personally (not specifics, just yes/no)? Do you believe that it is a youth thing? Just wondering why you believe that and what seems to be the missing piece to the championship team after 4 years. Thanks if you do put yourself out there and answer this. Understood if you don't want to also.
|1 week 1 day ago||Is it bad||
that I had to look up what SAIP means in 2014 and am 34?
|1 week 1 day ago||Public Relations||
Is another possible career path. My wife used to be in public relations and it involved a lot of writing. Most news articles just take a press release written by a PR person and then modified. My wife got to write a variety of subjects from people pieces to science pieces.
Write a Harry Potter like series where you become a billionaire. If this happens I demand 5% for giving you the idea.
|1 week 2 days ago||Dibs||
I blame this post and aaamichfan if he doesn't end up here.
|1 week 2 days ago||I thought it was||
"Don't put your cart before your chickens when they hatch"