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|6 hours 23 min ago||two points||
"Not sure what the point was"
2 points when toe is on the line. ha
|1 day 6 hours ago||A real man||
comments, then reads. Or better yet, doesn't read at all.
I like the comparison to RCMB, yet his comment probably fits better than he would have you believe.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Points system||
I thought this was part of the changes that have been contraversial. For a long time, Michigan tickets were below "market" and there was a higher demand than what the cost required. The AD used a points system to decide who should get the tickets to attend. The points were a combination of being an alum, years season tickets were held, and donations (yearly and overall amount). This system ensured that there would always be a demand and also allowed a system to reward beyond just a monetary value.
Dave Brandan has changed this model to a pure "market cost" model, that only rewards monetary (on a yearly basis, not on a overall basis) and devalues loyalty. This method may maximize revenue and lost cost on the secondary market, but does not ensure there will always be demand as you are operating at the point where demand and supply flucuate.
I believe for a non-profit university that has a long term goal (135 years old), the first model is a better overall model. I did not mind moving closer to the market value, but believe that leaving some profit on the table so loyalty, long term donations, and being an alum is rewarded, while ensuring the Big House is packed.
|1 day 9 hours ago||Very great points||
I agree that there is an open market, however, I just disagree with the total business aspect. Bottom line has trumped loyalty, which I believe is part of the problem. Yes some people are making money off of michigan football, but just because Vegas is making money off of michigan sports, doesn't mean that michigan needs to get in the business of gambling.
Mary s Coleman did a wonderful job of increasing the UofM endowment during her tenure, yet I believe she did a poor job of increasing access to this great university for a lot of families, and I'm not talking about the poor. To some, money and bottom line are all that matters. But to me, the university as a public institution of advanced learning should conduct itself differently from a business with shareholders.
You view cost from a market cost "what is the max I can get". I look at cost as "what do we need to charge to cover costs". Different views, which measure the success very differently.
On schedule, I do agree its hard, but I do believe that the prices should have been dropped for schedule (not performance). Thanks for the balanced and thoughtful response. I definitely agree with a lot and do see where we disagree and why.
|1 day 11 hours ago||What could make it better||
is an endless back and forth of "take me off this email list" reply to all like back in the day. That would have been epic.
|1 day 11 hours ago||What if||
the whole stadium did the macarena with dancing gerbals on the big screens right before a crucial stop? If only he were AD in '98.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Again||
Discussed with you in another thread, but we are above market price. All these emails trying to get renewals proves this. And you act as if it is a necessity to have upgrades everywhere. The upgrades at crisler were definitely required, but I'm not so sure a lot of the other sports needed such huge upgrades. I actually thought the experience at Yost was better without the upgrades.
You also keep mentioning how costs have gone up. How so? With the BIG network, other tv network deals, athletic apparel deals, and continued big donations from the ultra rich (Glick field house) I just don't see why the ticket prices need to rise so high so quickly. Student tickets have gone from $22/ game to $45/ game in less than a decade. You also say that other colleges are doing the same, yet have not shown any examples. Some have pointed to Oregon giving students free admission for a program with a smaller stadium with more success over The last decade.
So why can we not blame the AD for his policies that have led us to the situation we are currently in? He added App State to a weak schedule because they were cheap. Why not send the savings on to the customers. This is not a business. There aren't share holders and thanks to Martin, michigan has been working with a large surplus for years. I don't see the justification, and these emails show that I am more right than you
|1 day 22 hours ago||I guess we disagree on what AD needs to do||
I don't think the job of the AD is to maximize revenue. The NCAA is a non profit organization. To me this'd and he needs to run the department in the black while keeping competitive facilities and a winning atmosphere ( both in and out of the classroom). And choose coaches that can both win and represent the university.
My personal belief is that Brandon has increased the prices more than necessary. I understand his vision for upgrades to non revenue sports, but personally feel that it is a mistake to price the market to the edge that we are at this season. The BIG network is a huge financial boon and apparel deals should offset the costs enough that you don't need to raise the prices to the tipping point of fan attendance.
I don't think being AD is an easy job and many haven't been great. But this is michigan and I have higher or different expectations for how the department should be run. I personally think Martin did a better job, with the exception of the handling (not necessarily the who) of the football coach hire.
|2 days 4 hours ago||Don't disagree with many of the points but,||
1. I'm sure some of the players enjoy the music, and so do some of the fans, but I am sure that many enjoy the band as well. To me, the band brings a uniqueness to the game. I loved it at all the games, and as much as I do enjoy some occasional 7 nation army (hey I'm human), I do miss just hearing the band.
2. There are no ads around the stadium, however, there are planty of ads placed during game day. I'm less of a stickler than some on this, but if I am given the choice, I choose no ads and slightly less revenue
3. Price point and market price. I can blame Brandon for setting this too high. Michigan is one of the highest student and regular ticket prices in the nation. If we have a drop in attendance then yes, this does mean he is above market price. That is exactly what market price indicates. Yes this correlates to the success of the team, but there are other contributing factors. The fact that there are available tickets, and tickets may be available much cheaper during the season indicates to me that price point is above market price. I believe that Brandon wanted to test what the market price is, and with other factors (team not being great as you point out being the biggest), he appears to have overshot.
Feel free to ask yourself more questions though. Brian asks Brian all sorts of questions and I have read his stuff for years.
|2 days 5 hours ago||It's ok||
I found it funny to read your response as if you understood that he was talking about
|2 days 5 hours ago||Blue and Yellow, meet||
|2 days 5 hours ago||I disagree that it is losing||
The cubs have lost for decades, yet they bring in fans every year. Yes winning makes things easier, but there have been plenty of changes that have combined with the losing. I loved going to Wrigley because of the nostalgia. No flashy lights or any wow factor. Just watching a baseball game with lots of tradition.
Changing the stadium experience at Michigan to include Rock Music and ads and removing some of the freedom for students to "be kids" (like throwing out a guy tossing hot dogs to students who cheer the loudest in between quarters), is all adding up to reduce the magic that is college sports. In addition, the constant squezzing of dollars out of the fan base to the pushing point is not helping the matter. I believe Brandon pushed the price point to a tipping point, and the fact that the team is not living up to Michigan high standards is tipping the scale unfavorably.
|2 days 6 hours ago||Straightening out||
I think this may be a more complex issue than what you make it to be. Carr did a great job with Joppru (I believe this was the tight end) who had been under achieving per his talent. Carr said he could either straighten out and party less, or depart the team. He spent the next few months meeting Carr every morning to run steps and turned his career around.
Lewan never had an issue bringing effort on the field, or I'm assuming, off. What I'm gueeing he was doing was being a negative influence on the team chemistry. A good leader can vary his approach to influence his teamates. It sounds like Lewan just berated them. What Hoke needed to do, and maybe he tried, was to make Lewan understand how this was not helping him, or the team win. I don't think your approach would have worked in this instance, but that's just my opinon on an issue I didn;t know was a problem until today, so yeah, maybe I should just shut up.
|2 days 9 hours ago||Rumblings?||
As much as I have been on the site over the last year, I missed the leadership team chemistry rumblings. I know the senior leadership was great under the Martin, Vanbergen (sp?) Koger team, and I could see Kovacs and Denard encouraging the teams, so maybe not hearing this should have been an indicator.
I am speculating, but was this a team thing or was it more specific to a certain position group?
edit: nevermind. Read the article, and it is a pretty easy read between the lines. I must have either had blinders on last year or just not been paying close attention if people brought this up in the fall. Just makes me miss that group of 5 that Hoke first inherited.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Walk it off||
Walk it off!
|4 days 11 hours ago||Really?||
So because you are rich enough to fly in for a game, you can't understand why students, whose tuition has doubled in ten years, might not be able to justify this cost?
I'm sure Bill Gates could wonder why someone would fret over buying a Bugatti for $1 million when he gives away billions.
The athletic department has continued to enforce rules on its patrons while making huge ticket price hikes and replacing unique Michigan traditions with sky writing And rock music, which can be experienced at any other sports venue.
|1 week 6 days ago||That's what I got too||
Considering I grew up in Holland and have lived in the detroit area for close to 10 years, I'd say it is spot on. My wife is from the Detroit area and got Detroit, toledo and Rochester Illinois, so I wonder what is slightly different in our accents.
I lived out east in Boston for three years, so it was funny to see some words and accents specifically for them. Bubbler instead of drinking fountain, buggy instead of shopping cart. Interesting how regions have specific words for things.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||by who?||
I thought he was known for being an advanced route running reciever. That his route running was far advanced for high school, and would make the transition easier. This seems to be accurate with the news of him in the 1s and the video shown.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I can't help but read this comment||
and assume you are talking about me. /s
|3 weeks 1 day ago||hahaha||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||No upper deckers||
or flaming bags of poo?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||How did I know||
you would be the one to respond to this Mr. Everyone Murders!
|3 weeks 2 days ago||He probably would have gotten||
NBA 13th man Rookie of the year. Suprised he stayed.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Give me our size and offense||
all day any day. There was some ugly basketball with lots of bigs who couldn't do anything. Michigan's offense and efficiency well make up for some size disparity on the defensive/ offensive boards. Michigan took down Two teams already that relied on bigs and got nothing. It took Kentucky shooting the game of their life from 3 to scrape by.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I believe||
it is EEEESSSSS EEEEEEEEEEE CCCCCCCCCCCC
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I don't remember||
last years team getting much respect either. They wouldn't be able to handle the VCU press, the Syracuse zone, Florida's whatever.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Differences||
opinion only (no facts to back this up)
I see the major difference between the almuni and non-almuni fans is just the difference in what they love about Michigan. My love for Michigan is the sports, but also the buildings I loved (and hated), the houses and dorms I lived in, the parties, interamurals, professors, fall days. My Love for Michigan is not tied solely to the sports.
Does this make a me more of a Michigan football fan than others? I can assure you, I am not. I love the game and the sport, but I do not spend thousands on season tickets every year (try to attend a couple games if I can) and have seen my fandom dwarfed by others on this blog.
I think fandom is organic, and I love that Michigan means something different to everyone. My wife works at Mott (she has two degrees from Michigan as well) and though she loves Michigan sports, she loves Mott much more, and can hardly name the players who come visit her patients. She also has MSU grads that hate Michigan with a passion, but still love Mott.
There was a thread a while ago about how people became fans, and it was a great parade of stories of childhood tailgates and time with families at the games. I believe that the belief is that a "walmart Wolverine" chose Michigan over another school for an arbitrary reason. Sometimes it is, but I don't see anything wrong with this.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||You do make a compelling case||
for both teams.
I'll have to think about it,
|4 weeks 11 hours ago||Defense as a system||
I don't know football extremely well, but it appears that the defense is especially important to work as a unit, much like the O-line needs to work as one, knowing where all the other cogs are and what they are doing.
In this respect, I am assuming that all the defensive coaches have a strong understanding of what all the other position groups are trying to accomplish on a given play and understand where the rest of the players are supposed to be. If the Line is taking double teams, then maybe an LB is rushing off the edge and up the middle while the safeties and CBs drop to zones.
If this is so, then Manning needs are to teach technic. I'm assuming he had to play some coverage as a LB and can understand and learn the different types of technique to teach to the young players. However, CB, is also a position of raw talent sometimes. He is not going to coach speed, and quickness, but he will coach position and team awareness.
|4 weeks 11 hours ago||I assumed||
he had the best stuffed beaver of the group. At that point, it was obvious.