Do some independent research, instead of relying on what he put out in his bio, jeez. I didn't even touch on the fact that he was instrumental, along with Lindsey Graham, in supplying anti government terrorists in syria with american weapons and cash...read military websites with first hand accounts of special forces being shipped to syria under obama to "help" these terrorists kill pro syrian gov forces. Lol, the onion ran a piece saying that his last wish was to have his ashes fired into iraq,lmao, perfectly sums up john' political, warmongering bloodlust.
Snopes, really?...Try reading an article by Paul Craig Roberts, Institute of Political Economy. Plenty of evidence that he actively made propaganda tapes that were played over the loudspeaker to real POW's....Also should note, his father was in charge of the investigation that covered up the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty..My sources are credentialed professors, lecturers and pulitzer prize winning journalists...and yours are snopes, a biased website founded by a guy who left his wife for a prostitute.
Yeah, a legend in his own mind. In september of 2017, the navy was forced to release McCain's naval records in response to an FOIA filing. Lots of interesting facts, including the findings of naval investigators RE: the Forrestal fire. Not only did mcCain finish near the bottom of his class at annapolis, he was a marginal student who no doubt was granted admittance due to his father and grandfather both being admirals. As far as the Forrestal fire, sailors aboard the ship were interviewed by investigators, and the stories were all the same. The fire was ignited when McCain pulled a hot dog maneuver known as a "wet start" of his A4, causing a missile to cook off. His father pulled some strings, and young john was almost immediately transferred to the Oriskany. 27 sailors killed, over 100 wounded, because young john was a hot dog. 3 weeks after his transfer, he was shot down...interviews with naval officers also at the hanoi hilton cast doubt on his supposed heroics, some even calling him a stoolie and the canary...all in official naval documents that were suppressed during his run for prez....when young john arrived in washington, several colleagues who were also vets, turned their backs collectively and refused to acknowledge him..he was implicated in the keating 5 fraud scandal, some paragon of virtue. Recently, he refused to retire his senate seat, unless the Gov of arizona agreed to name his wife as his replacement. John McCain was not the person that we were told he was, and as a vet, I'm pissed at how he's been fetted for the last 30 years...not a good man, not a good pilot, not a good senator.
Should at least provide info on who may not be available for ND..specifically, and UMbig11 may be able to shed some light on this, I've heard that Christian Turner is in a cast, per his social media. Really was looking forward to him as the #3 RB...Samuals needs to step up, stay healthy
PSU does have a favorable schedule, however, they lost Gisecki and Hamilton, and of course Barkley, who was arguably a generational college talent. New OC, pedestrian defense. Also, washington is a stretch, one loss and the pac 12 may get shut out of the playoffs
However, having witnessed many 5 star busts at Michigan(Kalis, Baraka,Green), I'm always leery of a kid's "ranking"...I would hope that UM could get both a highly rated player, and one that meets the eye test of JH and DB....Braylon Edwards was a 3 star from a small catholic league team..Mike Hart was a 3 star from upstate New York, what kind of competition is in upstate New York?....anyway, plenty of reason to arch an eyebrow, but we should avoid a meltdown.
...and that JH has a warming seat when the team performs poorly..It will make the victories all the more sweet, especially at Penn State. PSU reminds me of the soft spread teams like Oregon that got repeatedly overpowered by strong defenses like Stanford, OSU, and LSU..I'm hoping the James Franklin hype train continues until the Michigan game.
seems like he's had bad luck with injuries...I may be crazy, but his body type, lean and style of running has always reminded me of Emmit Smith....might be tailback by committee, but plenty of talent in the backfield.
Sorry if you don't appreciate my comments. Feel free to go on chatting about max speed cars and draftageddon. Or join in and hype WS while you get ready for bed in your number 3 jersey.
We can agree to disagree on WS, no harm in that...bottom line is scoreboard, Brady came back and won the game. At that point of the game, with that field position, WS should have had the awareness to take the sack. He thought he could get the ball out before he got hit, and he was wrong. Was it the right play call?..debatable..was there a blown blocking assignment?..I'd say yes. Bottom line, WS tried to be a playmaker, and he isn't a playmaker.
WS is 22, and in a college program for 3 years....your Brady comparison is ridiculous at best...Do I lift? I think you've gotten off topic. BTW, WS looked like a tool jumping around the end zone pounding his chest.
Oddly enough, WS threw for 219 yards, the exact same as against Whisky..I started the comparison between the two in a good natured way, figuring many did not remember the positives of Tate's brief stint at Michigan. However, you have chosen to defend WS's attributes as a starting QB, as far as talent and moxie. I firmly believe that JH chose WS because he was the safest pick, low risk, and figured his defense would carry the team. Peters and O'Korn have more natural ability, but they also had the lower floor as of last year. WS is an average QB, and an average QB with a great defense will get you 10 wins. He has severe limitations to his game, and the close ups during games show a guy that looks scared. He was the best choice to start, considering the downside to starting Peters or O'Korn, but he was exposed in the toughest games. When you don't have a go to running attack, you have to have a playmaker at QB....WS is not a playmaker, sorry bro. BTW, a capable QB would have eaten the ball and taken the safety, thats what I expect from a third year guy.
but anybody that says his best position was QB is dreaming..And anybody that says he was an accurate passer doesn't watch much football. The kid had heart, and hit some deep bombs, but he missed wide open recievers his entire career, had zero touch, and could barely pass out of the spread...having said he sucked as a passer, he stepped into the role to help the team, and he did his best.
Not only did he manipulate Lysa Arryn and cause the war of the 5 kings, if you read the book canon, there is a strong liklihood that his lies to Brandon Stark as regards Lyanna's "kidnapping" directly led to Robert's Rebellion...quite the character.
He pretty much behaved at Michigan...didn't have the wheels come off until after his knee injury, and after he left Michigan...dead on though, some people are born with God given talent and just can't keep it together...to paraphrase Crash Davis..."a million dollar arm, and a 2 cent head".
He also threw a pick 6, and fumbled the snap when UM was about to score a TD and put the Bucks in the hole big time...If memory serves me, OSU's offense was shut out for a full 3 quarters....and their first two TD's were as a direct result of WS throwing a pick....Lol, ice?..
Yes, it was a spot on throw...for the game, he had 219 yards, 1TD and 1 INT...about a 62% completion rating...Less than you wouls expect out of a guy whose been on campus 3 years, and in the JH system for over a year......in comparison to an 18 year old freshman.WS's performance can best be described in that game as pedestrian
As a freshman, Tate had comparable stats on a much worse team. It was stated above that Tate didn't do well against good defenses. Well, WS wet the bed against Iowa, OSU, and FSU, and his yardage and completion % were erratic on a game by game basis. Tate had the "it' factor, the gunslinger mentality. WS screams game manager, and a game manager who throws a pick 6 when his defense is pitching a shutout isn't worth very much. As far as his injury, we'll never know, although I'd assume that JH would not play a guy who can't make the majority of passes.
Tate was the perfect QB for RR's offense. With him at the helm, and Denard used in the same fashion as say Percy Harvin, it's quite likely that RR would have had a longer, more successful term as head coach. That would have resulted in an unknown result as far as RR's teams, but it certainly would have thrown off the eventual timeline that resulted in the perfect storm of JH returning to AA. Watch his tape, he is that rare freshman that can succeed at a high level. And when you're done making fun of the kid, compare his moxie and skill to WS last year. It's not a stretch to say that a freshman Tate could have taken last year;s team to the CF Playoffs.
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Do some independent research, instead of relying on what he put out in his bio, jeez. I didn't even touch on the fact that he was instrumental, along with Lindsey Graham, in supplying anti government terrorists in syria with american weapons and cash...read military websites with first hand accounts of special forces being shipped to syria under obama to "help" these terrorists kill pro syrian gov forces. Lol, the onion ran a piece saying that his last wish was to have his ashes fired into iraq,lmao, perfectly sums up john' political, warmongering bloodlust.
Snopes, really?...Try reading an article by Paul Craig Roberts, Institute of Political Economy. Plenty of evidence that he actively made propaganda tapes that were played over the loudspeaker to real POW's....Also should note, his father was in charge of the investigation that covered up the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty..My sources are credentialed professors, lecturers and pulitzer prize winning journalists...and yours are snopes, a biased website founded by a guy who left his wife for a prostitute.
Yeah, a legend in his own mind. In september of 2017, the navy was forced to release McCain's naval records in response to an FOIA filing. Lots of interesting facts, including the findings of naval investigators RE: the Forrestal fire. Not only did mcCain finish near the bottom of his class at annapolis, he was a marginal student who no doubt was granted admittance due to his father and grandfather both being admirals. As far as the Forrestal fire, sailors aboard the ship were interviewed by investigators, and the stories were all the same. The fire was ignited when McCain pulled a hot dog maneuver known as a "wet start" of his A4, causing a missile to cook off. His father pulled some strings, and young john was almost immediately transferred to the Oriskany. 27 sailors killed, over 100 wounded, because young john was a hot dog. 3 weeks after his transfer, he was shot down...interviews with naval officers also at the hanoi hilton cast doubt on his supposed heroics, some even calling him a stoolie and the canary...all in official naval documents that were suppressed during his run for prez....when young john arrived in washington, several colleagues who were also vets, turned their backs collectively and refused to acknowledge him..he was implicated in the keating 5 fraud scandal, some paragon of virtue. Recently, he refused to retire his senate seat, unless the Gov of arizona agreed to name his wife as his replacement. John McCain was not the person that we were told he was, and as a vet, I'm pissed at how he's been fetted for the last 30 years...not a good man, not a good pilot, not a good senator.
Should at least provide info on who may not be available for ND..specifically, and UMbig11 may be able to shed some light on this, I've heard that Christian Turner is in a cast, per his social media. Really was looking forward to him as the #3 RB...Samuals needs to step up, stay healthy
PSU does have a favorable schedule, however, they lost Gisecki and Hamilton, and of course Barkley, who was arguably a generational college talent. New OC, pedestrian defense. Also, washington is a stretch, one loss and the pac 12 may get shut out of the playoffs
MSU and PSU beat OSU in 2015 and 2016 respectively, and those teams were not composed of 5 star kids......
However, having witnessed many 5 star busts at Michigan(Kalis, Baraka,Green), I'm always leery of a kid's "ranking"...I would hope that UM could get both a highly rated player, and one that meets the eye test of JH and DB....Braylon Edwards was a 3 star from a small catholic league team..Mike Hart was a 3 star from upstate New York, what kind of competition is in upstate New York?....anyway, plenty of reason to arch an eyebrow, but we should avoid a meltdown.
...and that JH has a warming seat when the team performs poorly..It will make the victories all the more sweet, especially at Penn State. PSU reminds me of the soft spread teams like Oregon that got repeatedly overpowered by strong defenses like Stanford, OSU, and LSU..I'm hoping the James Franklin hype train continues until the Michigan game.
seems like he's had bad luck with injuries...I may be crazy, but his body type, lean and style of running has always reminded me of Emmit Smith....might be tailback by committee, but plenty of talent in the backfield.
wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being used in the return game
you come up with an official term for players getting in trouble.
that he will be rotating in, as opposed to being counted on in a starting role
Glad to see somebody appreciate's talent.
Sorry if you don't appreciate my comments. Feel free to go on chatting about max speed cars and draftageddon. Or join in and hype WS while you get ready for bed in your number 3 jersey.
We can agree to disagree on WS, no harm in that...bottom line is scoreboard, Brady came back and won the game. At that point of the game, with that field position, WS should have had the awareness to take the sack. He thought he could get the ball out before he got hit, and he was wrong. Was it the right play call?..debatable..was there a blown blocking assignment?..I'd say yes. Bottom line, WS tried to be a playmaker, and he isn't a playmaker.
WS is 22, and in a college program for 3 years....your Brady comparison is ridiculous at best...Do I lift? I think you've gotten off topic. BTW, WS looked like a tool jumping around the end zone pounding his chest.
Oddly enough, WS threw for 219 yards, the exact same as against Whisky..I started the comparison between the two in a good natured way, figuring many did not remember the positives of Tate's brief stint at Michigan. However, you have chosen to defend WS's attributes as a starting QB, as far as talent and moxie. I firmly believe that JH chose WS because he was the safest pick, low risk, and figured his defense would carry the team. Peters and O'Korn have more natural ability, but they also had the lower floor as of last year. WS is an average QB, and an average QB with a great defense will get you 10 wins. He has severe limitations to his game, and the close ups during games show a guy that looks scared. He was the best choice to start, considering the downside to starting Peters or O'Korn, but he was exposed in the toughest games. When you don't have a go to running attack, you have to have a playmaker at QB....WS is not a playmaker, sorry bro. BTW, a capable QB would have eaten the ball and taken the safety, thats what I expect from a third year guy.
but anybody that says his best position was QB is dreaming..And anybody that says he was an accurate passer doesn't watch much football. The kid had heart, and hit some deep bombs, but he missed wide open recievers his entire career, had zero touch, and could barely pass out of the spread...having said he sucked as a passer, he stepped into the role to help the team, and he did his best.
Not only did he manipulate Lysa Arryn and cause the war of the 5 kings, if you read the book canon, there is a strong liklihood that his lies to Brandon Stark as regards Lyanna's "kidnapping" directly led to Robert's Rebellion...quite the character.
He pretty much behaved at Michigan...didn't have the wheels come off until after his knee injury, and after he left Michigan...dead on though, some people are born with God given talent and just can't keep it together...to paraphrase Crash Davis..."a million dollar arm, and a 2 cent head".
He also threw a pick 6, and fumbled the snap when UM was about to score a TD and put the Bucks in the hole big time...If memory serves me, OSU's offense was shut out for a full 3 quarters....and their first two TD's were as a direct result of WS throwing a pick....Lol, ice?..
Yes, it was a spot on throw...for the game, he had 219 yards, 1TD and 1 INT...about a 62% completion rating...Less than you wouls expect out of a guy whose been on campus 3 years, and in the JH system for over a year......in comparison to an 18 year old freshman.WS's performance can best be described in that game as pedestrian
there is a reason that the term Arm Punt was coined during DR's time at Michigan.
than those three? If so, further debate with you is meaningless.
As a freshman, Tate had comparable stats on a much worse team. It was stated above that Tate didn't do well against good defenses. Well, WS wet the bed against Iowa, OSU, and FSU, and his yardage and completion % were erratic on a game by game basis. Tate had the "it' factor, the gunslinger mentality. WS screams game manager, and a game manager who throws a pick 6 when his defense is pitching a shutout isn't worth very much. As far as his injury, we'll never know, although I'd assume that JH would not play a guy who can't make the majority of passes.
And by your logic, Brady Hoke was the last coach to beat OSU
Watch the tape, the kid had ice in his veins..very mobile and a very good passer. Now look at WS with his deer in the headlights look.
Tate was the perfect QB for RR's offense. With him at the helm, and Denard used in the same fashion as say Percy Harvin, it's quite likely that RR would have had a longer, more successful term as head coach. That would have resulted in an unknown result as far as RR's teams, but it certainly would have thrown off the eventual timeline that resulted in the perfect storm of JH returning to AA. Watch his tape, he is that rare freshman that can succeed at a high level. And when you're done making fun of the kid, compare his moxie and skill to WS last year. It's not a stretch to say that a freshman Tate could have taken last year;s team to the CF Playoffs.