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|12 hours 59 min ago||I was bothered that no one||
I was bothered that no one took action on Saturday. I'm furious about how Brandon and Hoke handled it Sunday and Monday. Had Hoke said the equivalent of what Schissel said today on Sunday, I'd drop the issue.
|14 hours 15 min ago||Our storied history of||
Our storied history of defiance. Because all those student government resolutions about Israel and Hash Bashes have sure accomplished a lot. At least this might get something done. Certainly more than bitching about it on a sports blog.
|14 hours 25 min ago||So because it happens||
So because it happens sometimes when we can't see, we should ignore it when it's blatantly obvious and no one does a thing?
|15 hours 6 min ago||Isn't Desmond the guy that||
Isn't Desmond the guy that said on national tv that no one on the team but Peppers wanted to be great? I'm sure that statement had nothing to do with our record.
|15 hours 14 min ago||Did you see him in the OSU||
Did you see him in the OSU game? He was hurt and in pain, but still effective, still one of the best athletes on the field. Shane was not. Running on a stress fracture won't kill you. Hell, he probably didn't even know it was broken (and a day of X-ray of a non displaced fracture may have even missed it). Playing with a concussion might leave you a vegetable. No one shoots themselves in the chest at 50 from an old foot fracture. They are not the same. At all. Stop pretending they are.
|15 hours 22 min ago||Have you seen his room? But||
Have you seen his room?
|16 hours 33 min ago||Todd Howard told me that I||
Thanks for taking the time to reply, and to be clear I definitely appreciate your perspective on this blog.
Todd Howard told me that I should cheer for the team, win or lose... in an extremely condescending manner. I'm a "Fan". He and his "brothers" are "MICHIGAN MEN", not "FANS". I should feel "privileged" to get to watch the likes of him. I'm really not trying to twist his words. I just reread his whole statement, and that's what sticks out. Maybe that part doesn't sting for you as much because you can sympathize with the rest of it as a former player, but from my position as a fan only, that's what I got out of it. You're not trying to tell me how to feel, but he is, and you're attempting to get me OK with that (I think).
As far as dwindling crowds and boycotts - that's the only power we have. I'm sure it hurts the players, and that sucks. But at this point watching the games isn't fun anymore, and I'm mad as hell at the grown men responsible for making it that way. We can speak only with our wallets and our eyeballs because that's the only language Brandon speaks.
Michigan football gave a ton to Howard(and also took a lot from him). From me it took only some fall afternoons and gave only memories. Continuing to participate now requires time, money, and emotional investment, from which I can expect little in return these days. There are now many things that I love more, that take less from me and give more in return. If I choose not to participate, or to tone down my passion, I don't need or appreciate being lectured and scolded by a guy who can understand my perspective no more than I can understand his.
I love Michigan, and always will. I will treasure any chance I have to go back to Ann Arbor in the fall. But Michigan football doesn't hold a monopoly on my nostalgia. My donations go the the College of Engineering, my thoughts go to memories and old friends. I owe Brandon and Hoke nothing, and to be frank they've given me nothing. I take no pleasure in this and I honestly feel bad for the friends and family that would be hurt by canning these guys (especially Hoke), but frankly my dear Reader71, I no longer give a damn. If you're saddened by this, take it up with the men that did it to me and thousands like me that are giving up, getting mad, and tuning out. In the meantime I'll raise a glass to the poor guys busting their ass on the field in a doomed effort, and hope for better days to come.
|17 hours 56 min ago||Well done. Howard feels||
Well done. Howard feels entitled to the fans' support, and that's grating. He didn't play for my benefit, he played for his teammates, his coach, his scholarship, his NFL dreams. His efforts are commendable, but they weren't made as a gift to me. And that's fine - I don't expect the players to feel any obligation to the fans, other than not embarrassing the University (and losing doesn't count as embarrassing). I'm proud that our University gave him that chance, and happy that I got to share some joy in it. He owes me nothing - where does he get the idea that I owe him?
|18 hours 7 min ago||Brady Hoke helped make you a||
Brady Hoke helped make you a man. That's great, that's wonderful, I'm sure at heart he's a great guy. But bluntly, as a fan, that means very little to me. Because I'm not privileged enough to have had the chance to play ball for Hoke. I wasn't athletically gifted enough to consider trying out for a spot on a high school squad, let alone being a 4 year starter at a D1 school. I'm not discounting the effort you put in, just noting that no amount of effort would have given me the chance you had.
|18 hours 32 min ago||"You're still down three||
"You're still down three scores and haven't accomplished anything". Actually you've accomplished 2 important things:
|19 hours 35 min ago||How momentum killing would it||
How momentum killing would it be to get the third touchdown with a minute left, needing the two point conversion to tie and missing it, as you're at least 50% likely to do? Momentum is great, but there's a reason you always want the ball second in OT - it's better to know what you need.
|20 hours 13 min ago||You've struck upon the key||
You've struck upon the key point, but don't quite comprehend it. Down 16 points is a two score game only if you make a pair of two point conversions. There is a high probability that you will not (since they are roughly 50-50 each), and will need an extra possession to tie/win. Hence, it's an "illusion" - it might be a two possession game, but it's more likely that you'll need three possessions and three scores at a minimum. It's much better to miss one of your required two point conversions early, and then have time to adjust our strategy, than to operate assuming you only need two possessions and miss a two point conversion late. With 7 minutes left, there are things you can do to get an extra possession (onside kick, hurry up, use timeouts early, unleash the dragon). With one minute left, you're much more restricted.
|20 hours 39 min ago||I don't think there's||
I don't think there's anything prudent about kicking it deeper. Either way, if you don't get the other team to go three or four and out, you're hosed. If you're down 7 or even 10, kicking deep might make sense. But down 16, needing at least 2 TDs to tie? The value of an extra possession is much greater than giving up 30 yards of field position. Just like with the two point conversions, at some point you need to get an onside kick. Better to find out sooner rather than later if you can.
|20 hours 47 min ago||And furthermore, any time||
And furthermore, any time going for two potentially reduces the number of possessions required to tie the game, you should do it immediately. The difference between tied and down one is huge. The difference between down one and down two is trivial.
|22 hours 3 min ago||Eh, it's obviously true that||
Eh, it's obviously true that some concussions are worse than others. The symptoms may not be directly tied to a specific level of trauma in a 1-1 manner, and there's a lot of disagreement within the medical community over how to grade concussions and over what exact forms of mild traumatic brain injury should be classified as concussions. I believe the "no such thing as a mild concussion" talk is primarily designed to get people to not ignore concussions rather than as a true scientifically descriptive phrase.
|22 hours 21 min ago||I've said this before, but||
I've said this before, but while the medical staff's word is and should be final when it comes to "this guy can't play", it is not and should not be final when it comes to "play this guy now". Assuming everything is fine unless a medical person explicitly tells you otherwise is a fail-unsafe, irresponisible position for the coaches to take. You shouldn't need a badge that says "medical staff" to know that a stumbling, dizzy-looking player who just took a big hit to the face may be concussed and should be looked at. Basically, there should have been someone on the coaching staff willing and able to say "I'm not comfortable playing this guy till I get an affirmative yes from the neurologist".
The bigger issue is that there is an apparent lack of effective communication between the medical staff and coaching staff to ensure that a concern about player health is relayed in a timely manner to someone with the authority to get the guy off the field and / or stop play. That issue implicates the coaches at least as much as the medical staff.
I almost wonder if the NCAA needs to start adding a guy to the replay official's booth whose job it is to watch out for possible head injury and call an injury timeout. This should be automatic in any case of targeting penalties with contact to the head. And in such cases, the game should be suspended long enough to run a quick concussion check with no penalty to the injured team. If a hit is bad enough to trigger an ejection, it should be enough to trigger a neurologist check. I don't think the coaching staff should be absolved of watching out for their own guys, but it would be beneficial to have someone objective with that as essentially their only job.
|22 hours 35 min ago||There are a couple things -||
There are a couple things - the second sentence I think refers to how student tickets have been handled. The bolded sentence is pretty much true everywhere, but I think the specific beef (at least the one I've heard most frequently) is that the AD has been gold-plating the facilities for non-revenue sports while neglecting upkeep/improvements for the campus rec buildings open to the general student body (i.e. IM, CCRB, NCRB) that the AD also runs.
|23 hours 28 min ago||Honestly? Brandon proved||
Honestly? Brandon proved himself a snake when he underbussed Hoke to save his own ass. This is the latest in a long line of accountability avoidance from DB. I feel exactly zero sympathy for Brandon, because he has earned none. Quite the opposite. I'll save my tears
|23 hours 32 min ago||Change.org is for petition to||
Change.org is for petition to the White House. Don't think that's really appropriate here, unless I missed your sarcasm.
|1 day 36 min ago||Are you speaking only for||
Are you speaking only for "people" or are you, personally, okay with Brandon's handling of this situation such that beating Penn State will make everything hunky dory, Brandon uber alles for eternity?
|1 day 18 hours ago||I actually agree with you to||
I actually agree with you to a point - this is and should be big news for Michigan football fans. But national news 2 nights in a row? Insane.
|1 day 18 hours ago||#Jeter4AD||
|1 day 22 hours ago||The problem is that it's part||
The problem is that it's part of a pattern of Hoke seemingly lacking situational awareness. It's not just Morris - there's the 10 men on the field for 2 plays, the delay of games, etc. Maybe it's not Hoke's direct job to mind these things, but it's definitely his job to make sure somebody is, and he's obviously failed in that respect. He hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt here - quite the opposite.
And he's compounding it by avoiding accountabilty. All he needs to say is "We're going to review it, make sure everything was done by the book, and I'm going to personally make sure that we have the right people and protocols in place to ensure that every one of my boys are as safe as possible on the field". Boom, done. Instead it's CYA, "nothing to see here", and "not my job" buck passing all the way down. I don't care what the lawyers say - a MICHIGAN MAN(TM) does what's right, and that means admitting when you screw up.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Maybe it's not a firing||
Maybe it's not a firing offense in that hypothetical, assuming it's an isolated incident. But it's not isolated. And I would hope even in that hypothetical that the coach faces some sort of serious discipline - I remember being upset at Brian Kelly for putting in an obviously woozy Tommy Rees (and I wasn't alone on this blog). As it is it looks like Hoke's going to get off scot-free, hence Outraged(TM).
|1 day 22 hours ago||Fair enough, but shouldn't he||
Fair enough, but shouldn't he take a look at his QB or a replay or ask someone or something after a 15 yard roughing the passer is called? I would hope "is Shane okay?" is his first thought after hearing that. Not seeing the hit live doesn't excuse being unaware of it or it's painful-to-watch after effects.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Can't rely on dual threat||
Can't rely on dual threat QBs. Those guys like Gardner are way more likely to be injured than pocket passers like Shane Morris.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Et tu, Space Coyote? I don't||
Et tu, Space Coyote? I don't want Hoke to have the authority to overrule the medical staff if they say a guy can't play. But to hide behind that and say Hoke has no responsibility to see a guy in Shane's condition and say "hey, let's sit this guy and give him a head check just to be safe" is absurd. The buck stops with the head coach, Hoke's trying to pass it, and you're apparently totally cool with that.
|1 day 23 hours ago||AFTER THE GAME IS TOO LATE||
AFTER THE GAME IS TOO LATE how much clearer can we be? Even if a post game evaluation cleared him, having him on the field was still dangerous. Any responsible concussion protocol takes several minutes, minimum. Shane was not off the field long enough to complete half of it. The lack of a positive concussion test is totally irrelevant. It's like saying that it's okay that no one inspected the engines on an airplane as long as it didn't crash.
|1 day 23 hours ago||Nobody has positive||
Nobody has positive concussion results because HE WAS NEVER CHECKED EVEN THOUGH HE CLEARLY NEEDED TO BE. Jeebus stop being deliberately dense.
If Hoke were 5-0, showed some remorse in the presser, and the team didn't look like a clown show, MAYBE he deserves to keep his job. I'd still want him heavily fined/suspended (minimum $250k, 1 week) for this though. But he's 2-3, the whole team looks disorganized, and he's showing zero accountability for his mistake here, so he needs to go yesterday.
|1 day 23 hours ago||That's right when Brady sent||
That's right when Brady sent out the punt team, down only two scores with 4 minutes left on the clock. If Brady's given up, why not Lloyd?