frank beamer #1
|26 weeks 6 days ago||Bowl Bound!||
I still have Bowl Bound on my laptop which I dust off once in a while. It fills the recruiting void since I gave my brother back his xbox 360 years ago. I love the rectuiting aspect even though it seems a little clunky compared to NCAA on the consoles. I picked the worst school (Idaho) and built up a decent program and won the conference title a few times. Then I got invited to join the Big Ten. I don't win many games now but haven't simmed enough seasons to tell if I can compete with the big names. Still a long way to go.
A few questions:
How hard would it be to create a college football text simulator like Bowl Bound? Creating something like that has always intrigued me but I lack the time and skills to even get started. If there is any kind of Kickstarter with this idea, somebody let me know.
How is there not a college football game already for iOS and Android? I know you wouldn't be able to use the college names and/or mascots. Maybe you couldn't even call it "college" football. But I think a dynasty type game where you get to build a program and recruit players would be awesome.
|38 weeks 1 day ago||I'm just north of Goshen.||
I'm just north of Goshen. It's actually a relief for ND to lose. I was worried they would somehow sneak into the playoff and I would have to become a hermit or move to a different state...
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Interesting...||
I guess I can see where he's coming from... But does that mean if the Dutch quit wasting talent in speed skating they would have a better basketball team?
Maybe we should get a chart to compare the salaries and fame of football players and speed skaters. Then he could see why a lot of young men "waste their talent" with such violent activities.
I would probably watch more speed skating if Denard was on the ice though.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||well...||
at least you didn't loose your mind!
|1 year 39 weeks ago||There's a rest of the season?!?!?||
|1 year 46 weeks ago||A lot of good ideas so far||
If you want my ideal mgoblog, I would like a magazine/feedly style layout mentioned above. Maybe something like digg only with a column or a few boxes dedicated to the content that is currently in the sidebars. But I would also make it responsive. Something like Mashable which changes the layout for different screen sizes. I haven't used the apps much but there seem to be some limitations so I'd prefer a well designed responsive site.
Maybe we should have a contest for the best Mgoblog layout design since the last banner contest never crossed the finish line. (But I'm sure Brian has or knows people that are way better at this kind of stuff than the average mgblogger.)
|2 years 6 days ago||speaking of stale and lame...||
When are these kids going to get with the times? US Dollars?! Show us your bitcoin balances!
|2 years 7 weeks ago||Sounds like a great project||
Has anyone ever done a comparison of Denard and other Michigan quarterbacks? It would be pretty cool to see where he ranks in things like BCS/Rose Bowl wins, rivalry wins, stats in big games, game winning drives, and some of the other more common QB stats. It seems like I've seen something similar before but can't find it.
I caught a few minutes of the win vs. OSU on BTN replay a couple days ago and at one point Denard was something like 13 of 16. I feel like I've heard so often that Denard was such a terrible quarterback that I forgot that he had some really good/respectable games.
|2 years 11 weeks ago||Question:||
Are you telling me that if ND takes the place of an ACC school in one of the ACC bowl tie-ins they don't have to share the payout with the rest of the ACC conference?
|2 years 17 weeks ago||Thanks guys||
Thanks for the feedback guys! I'm happy I could finally contribute something worthwhile to MGoBlog.
Final Four! I'm still not sure I believe it!
|2 years 18 weeks ago||thank you sir!||
You can go ahead and do it if you like. I was just going to make the text size smaller so the words didn't wrap down to the next line. But I'm not even sure how to do that! Your posting skills are probably far superior to mine.
Maybe it's easy enough to read as it is? I'll look into the new options but I'm going to eat with my wife first.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||thanks russale2012! Sorry||
Sorry about the hard to read formatting. I pasted from notepad and it wrapped each line in div tags. I was going to try to clean it up and make the text size smaller but I don't know a simple way to do that. Maybe I'll try to repost it in a little while.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Adding to the Lore||
Inspired by Brian's post "Exponent Time" and the surreal events of last night I started typing out a poem along the lines of Casey at the Bat. I needed something to do after the game because sleep was unlikely. It's been done before, I'm an amateur when it comes to poetry/writing and this version needs some more work. But I present you with the MGoBlog version of
The outlook wasn't brilliant for the Michigan squad that day:
A contest in the JerryDome which last was a poor display.
And the Jayhawks with their giants and all their fans that came,
Thought for sure, without a doubt, that they would win the game.
"The michigan shooters won't make their shots in such an open space,
And the lack of height and quality depth brings a smile to Withey's face."
"For Michigan to win this game, they'll need a Big House full of luck."
"And the Big Ten is over rated," said our favorite analyst, Chuck.
And as the game began, McGary's dong received a punch,
The worst imaginable omen now for the souls of the Mgo- bunch.
As the game progressed it seemed quite clear that nothing could be done,
At the half Hardaway had only 5, while usual-hero Burke had none.
Down only 6 at the break some said "We haven't played our best,
If we get our stuff together we may yet win this contest."
But as the 2nd half continued every bounce went KU's way,
The Jayhawks pushed the lead to 14 with under 7 left to play.
"The Liveblog is no use this time, our boys have given up,
GR111 is gassed, Stauskas is off, McGary is still a pup."
The free throws clanged off iron, the triples did the same,
It looked as if there was no hero to help Michigan win this game.
Finally Robinson tipped a pass and raced ahead to slam it through,
And Burke clamped down before half court to get the ball back from KU.
The next play he drove the lane and dished to an open McGary,
With dong of steel and balls of brass, "This Withey kid ain't that scary."
And at the other end Mitch spied Releford driving through the lane,
So he stopped him cold but was called for a foul, the ref is clearly insane.
"Kill him, kill the ref!" shouted all the maize and blue so loud,
The commentators agreed, "All ball," they mumbled with the crowd.
After two free points for Kansas, Burke dribbled around the arc,
Withey stepped out, Trey stepped back, his triple hit the mark.
As the clock dipped under a minute, the Jayhawk hands began to pound,
But Morgan cut off McLemore and pulled down a defensive rebound.
At the other end Hardaway misfired, but Morgan dove along the floor,
Robinson snagged the loose ball and dipped under Withey for the score.
The lead was trimmed to three but less than 30 seconds remained,
All around the arena and beyond Jayhawk faces became quite pained.
After trading points, the lead still three, Johnson drew a foul,
"He shouldn't even be on the floor!" Michigan fans began to howl.
Just a point would surely mean that the Wolverine season is all but done,
But Johnson commits a basketball sin, missing the first of a one and one.
Timmy pulls down the rebound and quickly hands to Burke,
No timeouts, down by three, with 12 seconds with which to work.
So many options for this team, full of shooters one and all,
But there's no doubt who will have it last, it's time for Hero Ball.
Burke dribbled to his left around the space where McGary fell,
Back 30 feet or 30 miles it was really hard to tell,
Practically from the stat table, no defender could reach him there,
He picked up his dribble and raised his arms clutching that leather covered air.
And now Burke lightly holds the ball and now he lets it fly,
This shot could be the deciding point of how we view this guy.
March Madness holds it's collective breath as the arc tears through the dome,
And a wave of maize explodes forth as the ball finally rattles home.
With only a few seconds left and the comeback now complete,
The Wolverines have pulled off an unbelievable tourney feat.
Onward, Michigan made their shots in an intense extra frame,
Kansas though they tried so hard, couldn't quite do the same.
Kansas fans felt the final dong punch in a karmic twist of fate,
Mitch, Tim, Trey and the boys are all headed to the Elite Eight!
Great or Greatest? will be the choices as we look back and debate,
But now there seems to be no doubt, Burke is no longer "merely great."
And somewhere couches are burning, and somewhere subs are had,
And somewhere Wisconsin mutters that the backboards must have gone bad.
And the liveblog lives forever, and muppets can be seen,
And no matter where or when, it's great to be a Michigan Wolverine!
I was going to do one of those cool picture posts but I have a sick kid and I don't have the time. If someone else wants to do it, feel free.
|2 years 20 weeks ago||Thanks, and good point||
Thanks for the article guys. Always good to read about Denard. I love that he wants to graduate on time and accomplish his goal. It's interesting to see how many prospects drop out when they must be so close to getting a degree. I'd like to know what percent finish their degree on time, finish early and just completely drop out. To the Googles!
MGoCombs, I suppose you're probably right. It just seems like I hear about so many different events that would pull them away from their school work. And I guess I envision these things as a larger time commitment than they actually are.
|2 years 20 weeks ago||seniors and NFL?||
I know a lot of NFL prospects are college seniors. Are they still finishing their education? How do all these workouts and pro days and the combine affect their senior year academics?
Not meant to thread-jack. Just something I've always wondered and this seems like a good spot.
|2 years 29 weeks ago||thanks for this thread||
Seriously, thanks for starting this thread.
I've got a little experience writing blogs but I'm always looking for advice too. I can't really add much to what's already been said. Narrow your focus, do something to stand out, use the social media... it all sounds good to me.
I started reading the post you linked but got bored and skimmed through the rest, probably missing your main point. If I were writing the article I might have started with "the top 10 reasons a committee wouldn't have chosen ND to play in the championship game" (maybe a little humor?) or made up a nice graphic with the matchups for your proposed system. Something short but attention grabbing.
One of the blogs that I write has become a sort of service. I sort through a couple hundred (small niche) blogs and pick out the top posts of the month for this small niche and just link to them. Sort of like a human edited news feed. I just recently posted a list ranking the top 10 blogs of this niche for the past year which gave me a sizable spike in traffic. I've also got ideas for infographics and research projects and hopefully a few other posts that will make me stand out in this niche.
I don't know if you could apply any of these ideas to your blog... Does anyone else have interesting ideas for creating content?
|2 years 36 weeks ago||M-23 O-15||
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Interesting||
Do you guys think there has been a mindset/culture change over the past few years? When I helped coach a middle school cross country team that was really dominant the head coach made sure to let all the coaches and runners know that when we heard the team results we would clap a little and cheer mildly but not jump around like idiots because we expected to win.
With a few rough years recently do you think the guys on the team don't expect to win like Michigan teams in the past? Maybe this is part of the reason they get so excited after winning a close game and forget? to shake hands.
For the record, I like to see the guys shake hands with the other team before heading over to celebrate. Act like you've been there before. Act like you expect to win.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||Great game||
I'm glad I DVR'd it. This is one I can go back and watch again. Maybe tonight if there aren't any other good games on. Of course I'll have to explain to my wife why there is another game on there when I still have the ND and OSU games from last year...
|2 years 41 weeks ago||JV?||
Can we just have Verlander throw left handed? I think I'd take that over our bullpen.
I say the Tigers just get their bats going and build up a double digit lead by the 9th inning.
|3 years 2 weeks ago||I'm with you||
I bought Bowl Bound College Football by Greydog Software years ago. It is more like what you're talking about I think. I loved that it had more depth than the console games but there were a few things that seemed a bit off. I loved the recruiting, and hiring coaches and some of the other coaching duties. Even the graphics were decent for a text sim. But after going through a few seasons it seemed to get a little old. And it was hard to take the bottom feeders and turn them into conference champions, which is usually what I like to do with football games.
I've always thought that with all the talented people on this site, if we could get organized, we could make an incredible simulation for college football.
|3 years 5 weeks ago||Thanks||
Thanks for the reply. I'll see what I can find out with the tattoo search.
|3 years 5 weeks ago||Looking for a little guidance...||
Hey guys (and gals?),
I'm looking for a little help regarding logos and trademarks and what can/can't be used.
In my free time I make wheelthrown pottery. Recently, I've been working on putting logos on mugs. My brother said I should make some Michigan mugs. What are the rules? I suppose I could make one for my brother with a big block M or any way he wanted but what if I want to sell them at some point? I've been to this page: http://www.logos.umich.edu/usemarks.html
What does "Trademark" mean exactly? Do I really need permission to write the word "wolverines" on a mug or is that only if I'm selling it as a Michigan mug? Is it hard to get permission to use certain phrases or images? Could I offer a block M mug and let the customer pick the colors so it wouldn't explicitly be a Michigan mug? Maybe someone would like a Missouri mug? I just remember the logo contest on this blog and some shirts were pulled because of some legal issues.
I see products like this: http://www.etsy.com/listing/90584558/michigan-wolverines-ready-to-hang and I wonder if I could add similar things to my pottery without getting in trouble down the road. Does it matter if I sell them as individually unique pieces?
Just to be safe I've started to come up with phrases or words that are "Michigan" but aren't on the trademark page above. A few ideas: The Team, Beat Ohio, Michigan Man, certain jersey numbers (with no names!), This is Michigan Fergodsakes, Hail, Touch the Banner...
Any other ideas?
Also, if there is a good resource concerning these issues that isn't too hard to understand let me know. I think some of this has been discussed but I couldn't find the relevant thread. I suppose I suppose I could do some internet research but I trust the users here more than other sites.
|3 years 22 weeks ago||What is an angry bird?!||
"What is an angry bird?! I'm tired of pretending I know."
This was my mother in law's question to my wife yesterday. I bet all the kids that ask these funny questions could have told her.
|3 years 34 weeks ago||question:||
Considering all the fantastic bowl sponsorships that we have now... when will we have a conference sponsorship? For example, the Big East could become the United Airlines Conference or the Big East Conference Transported by Delta to save on travel expenses.
Serious question: will all of this realignment eventually slow down or will this be a continuous thing from now on? That could get old fast.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||recruiting?||
I was listening to the radio after the game. It seemed to be some station/program out of Cleveland. They said that Fickle was a great recruiter, one of the top recruiters in the nation. Does anyone have any insight into this? I've never heard this before... but I haven't listened to any Ohio radio stations either. They also said that he might take the Akron? job. Really, it seemed that they know about as much as the maple tree outside my door.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||Thanks for the info||
I was just going to ask about this. I know it has been discussed before but I couldn't remember how the scholarships were counted. Could he accept a track scholarship and work out with the football team for a year or two but not play in games? Like a practice squad player? Then perhaps they would offer him a football scholarship if one became available. Not that he'd want to take a chance like that but have similar things ever happened?
|3 years 44 weeks ago||Late to the party as usual...||
Maybe this can be done with a browser add on or something. And maybe it's just my crappy laptop screen but I have a hard time finding links in comments or original posts. Especially when people just use one word as the link. Is it possible to change the forum-post-content or comment-content links to underlined text or a lighter shade of blue somehow? I would love it if the links caught my eye more. Does anyone else have the same problem or have a solution?
And awesome update! Embedded objects spilling over onto the right sidebar was my biggest pet peeve of this site. Keep up the good work!
|3 years 46 weeks ago||Congrats!||
My wife and I just had our first kid (girl) a month ago. As we discussed names weeks and months before I was trying to come up with Michigan related names just to get a reaction out of her. One of us came up with Maizey Blue. My wife actually thought it was cute. But unfortunately Maizey wasn't on her top 3 list but we did keep Blue as the middle name!
At first I thought the OP's bet was going to be about naming the baby Denard. That would be awesome...
But good luck with the mobile. Maybe you can post a picture of the finished product?
|3 years 46 weeks ago||Touchdown Calvin||
Lions up 13-10.
I'm using this stream:
|3 years 48 weeks ago||Thanks for the feedback guys.||
Thanks for the feedback guys. I had fun putting it together. I love when the video matches up with the lyrics to a song but I might have gone a little overboard. When I got done I felt like there were so many highlights that I still wanted to add. Maybe a longer song next time?
As for the video quality, I was just using some free software so that could be part of the problem. But (if anyone still reads this thread) where do all you video wizards get your highlight clips? Do you just look for the 1080p stuff on youtube or download the whole games? That was the hardest part for me, finding the video to start with. I probably started with a lot of low quality clips.
|3 years 48 weeks ago||My attempt:||
I just uploaded my first ever youtube video of my first ever highlight/hype video. Sorry the video quality isn't great. And sorry if it is too RAWK for you...
I'm not even going to attempt an embed.
|4 years 33 weeks ago||a couple minutes in photoshop...||
Has this already been submitted? Nothing groundbreaking but is it really so bad? I'd pick this over the new one. Or is there a rule against a conference having the same logo as it's network? (I even added another star!)
Okay, more of a concept piece... Get it? The 10 is big! Inspired by an earlier post.
I actually might try to come up with a real design just for fun. But by the time I finish it there will probably be 14 or 16 teams in the conference (I'm slow and have creativity ADD).
|4 years 36 weeks ago||Impressive!||
Spot on in my opinion.
Was this completely done in Photoshop? In the video I saw some crazy 3d grid tools that I didn't recognize but I'm (obviously) not the Photoshop wizard that you are. I aspire to one day have half the skills that you have... Okay, on 2nd glance it looks like Illustrator for the block letters?
Also, if Michigan pulls the upset I'm having a huge print made, framed, and hung on my wall. (With your permission, of course.)
and of course, THANK YOU!
|4 years 51 weeks ago||What time is kickoff?||
Does anybody know what the start time is? Or when they will announce the start time? All I've seen is TBA on the official sites.... My brother will be home from China that weekend and we talked about going. But I've got something in Huntington that afternoon. If it's a night game I think I can get to both!
|5 years 4 weeks ago||There are different shipping options||
I chose the 7 day shipping because it was free and my estimated delivery date is 7/22.
|5 years 4 weeks ago||I took the plunge...||
Thanks OP. I went back and forth when I first saw the deal and by the time I decided to order it the deal was expired. So I just ordered it!
|5 years 6 weeks ago||Not crazy...||
Alright, so I guess the game is blacked out in my area. If anyone wants to explain to me how that works, feel free. I would imagine it has something to do with ticket sales?
I remember growing up in Michigan and the Lions games were always blacked out. I thought it was because I lived too close to Detroit. Maybe it's different for baseball? Or New York games?
|5 years 6 weeks ago||Am I going crazy?||
Why is ESPN showing ESPN News instead of the game? I saw a commercial earlier promoting the Tigers on Wed. Night Baseball. My Comcast menu says Tigers at Mets.... I was kinda excited to actually see a game down here in Indiana. But apparently that is too much to ask? Maybe I'll check ESPN3...
|5 years 6 weeks ago||How about some poetry?||
By pure luck I stumbled across a copy of Roses that Bloomed in the Snow by Fred Lawton (signed!) at some thrift store. It was published in 1959 (by the UofM "M" Club) so it is about things way before my time. It's got some poems about Michigan football, and some of the old legendary players, and Yost. It also has some other miscellaneous poems by the author.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Thanks for the update!||
Thanks for the update! I seem to be far lazy-er than the OP since I rarely leave this site for my sports news. Perhaps I have grown too dependent on Mgoblog? Thanks to all the posters that scour the net and post the important stuff here!
But I agree with others, it seems like the Lions are actually making some decent moves. No huge names but it seems like they're actually building a team. If they can pick up some solid lineman-type draft picks I'll be happy.
I feel like I've said to myself "I think the Lions should be better this year" in the past and it didn't amount to much. But this year seems a little different. Perhaps it's because I paid less attention in the past and didn't have Mgoblog to keep me up to date... or maybe there is something to this Schwartz guy....
|5 years 22 weeks ago||combining other people's ideas:||
Above someone mentioned setting a limit of votes for each person per day. Maybe instead of giving everyone the same amount of votes each day the more points you have = more votes per day that you are allowed.
But I just reached 20 points today... so it is quite possible that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
|5 years 22 weeks ago||a good point||
Maybe there could be multiple point systems... Like blue points for a witty comment or clever movie reference and maize points for great football knowledge or analysis abilities. I value both types of comment.
I know, it would probably be more complicated than it's worth.... We don't really need it. But it would be a cool feature!
|5 years 22 weeks ago||If you ask me...||
I'm more of a reader than a post-er so you probably can't put too much value on my opinion... But I like the system. I guess I don't post enough to experience any of the drawbacks. It seems to keep spam and clutter to a minimum and I would guess that it makes it a lot easier for Brian or whoever else to monitor. It gives (some?) validity to a decision to hand out a ban. I also feel like someone with a lot of points is more reliable as a community member (however true that may actually be).
There was a good point by Hannibal though. At times it does seem to unfairly penalize someone with an opinion that goes against the masses. Maybe there could be some kind of cap put in place for reliable (certain # of points/length of membership/etc.?) members. For example you could only gain or lose a maximum of 10 points per post. Maybe 20 for an original post. Or maybe an exponential (probably not the right word) system. The first 5 negative votes cause you to lose 5, 10 negs and you lose 8, 15 negs and you lose 11, etc. Someone with more knowledge would have to come up with better numbers but that way somebody wouldn't lose half their points for one bad post or unpopular opinion. Maybe this type of thing isn't even possible... and I'm pretty sure I'm thinking way too hard about this...
As far as I can tell the only real important milestone is 20 points. Then you get a couple extra benefits. Unless there is some unwritten rule that you get a free football ticket for every 1000 mgopoints? Maybe a few people take the system too seriously once in a while but it seems to work pretty well from what I've seen.
|5 years 23 weeks ago||Any other Golden Eagles?||
I went to Columbia Central, class of 2000. I know our football team was nothing special during my time. I watched my brother (class of 2003) play a few games and they seemed decent from what I remember....
|5 years 28 weeks ago||For my own clarification...||
Can a player start out as a redshirt for a season but if he needs to play for some reason (injuries, etc.) he can play in a game and the season will count towards one of his four years? *For example could DG start out as a redshirt but if Tate or Denard get hurt or the coaches feel he becomes the best QB could they put him in? I've heard the term "burning a redshirt" and I assume it has something to do with that.
*I'm not arguing that DG should redshirt or not, that's just the best example I can think of.
|5 years 34 weeks ago||interesting...||
I guess I never heard about this rule becoming official. It makes sense but it seems to rule out the possibility that the two best teams in the country could come from the same conference. I dream of the day that two big 10 teams (one being Michigan of course) go undefeated and due to the crazy conference schedule don't play each other during the regular season. When the dust settles these two teams are ranked 1 and 2 and we have an all big 10 NC. Imagine the controversy! I know it's highly unlikely but is it even possible? Could 2 co-champions play in the NC?
And I think you made the point I was trying to make better than I did. If Michigan couldn't get a rematch for losing such a close road game there is no way Florida should even get a sniff of a rematch for getting smashed by Bama.
|5 years 34 weeks ago||no rematch...||
I'm also hoping Texas loses a close game just to see all the chaos it will create.
But if I recall correctly a few years ago #2 Michigan lost a close game to #1 Ohio State. I kept hearing arguments against a rematch like "you have to win your conference to play in the NC". Of course Florida pounded Ohio State anyway so it didn't really matter. But is it possible that the 2 best teams in the country could be from the same conference? Not this year at least. No way should Florida get a rematch. But I suppose they'll still get to go BCS bowling...
|5 years 36 weeks ago||I was trying to stay updated||
by following on my fantasy football page and then the yahoo boxscore. It said 0:00 left in the fourth and then "end of the 4th" with the Lions down 6. I was like what??? Shouldn't it say "Final" like the other games? Then I finally saw the final score scroll across the bottom of the TV.
Is there any place I can download the game (similar to MgoVideo)? Or at least watch the last part of the game?
|5 years 36 weeks ago||If Charlie is gone...||
is there any chance that some of their players transfer or commitments start looking elsewhere? Perhaps another school with a great history in college football? Especially highly rated defensive-type recruits/players? I know they wouldn't help next year and it's mostly wishful thinking.... but count me as wishful. I don't pay much attention to other schools. Is there always as much attrition as Michigan had the past few years?
I have (slightly shaken) confidence that once RR gets rolling the team will be good enough to beat ND no matter who's coaching. Unless it's the pope... He seems to have a lot of connections.
|5 years 36 weeks ago||It depends...||
If OSU plays the way they did today against the Wolverines and Oregon/AZ/Stanford/whoever doesn't give them the ball four or five times then I don't see OSU staying in the game. But it's along way off and you never know what kind of team will show up in a bowl game. I haven't seen Arizona play this year. But if Oregon or Stanford play their best games (especially after what they did to USC (whatever that is worth)) I would go with either of those teams.
|5 years 36 weeks ago||I agree||
He deserved so much more during his senior year. He was one of those players that you love to watch every play. He will be at or near the top of the list for TFLs. Will he win any awards/honors? If I could give a Heisman for the Wolverines, or even the big 10 it would have to go to BG.
|5 years 36 weeks ago||Yes please.||
I would love to see BG suit up for the Lions. I don't know how he'll grade out as an NFL prospect but he couldn't be much worse than a lot of the picks during the Millen era. He DESERVES to be a top 5 pick in my book but maybe he won't be the highest DE and the Lions could get a great player with a later pick...
|5 years 36 weeks ago||Recruiting question||
This might be a silly newb-type question... but
|5 years 36 weeks ago||Now that the season's over...||
I guess I'll make my first post....