no, YOU'RE off topic
|12 min 22 sec ago||Go back to that spring||
Most people felt Bellomy looked better then Gardner in Spring ball - even the writers on this blog. When the move of Gardner was announced in the fall most people felt it was a good move. Brian himself even endorsed the idea.
|22 hours 27 min ago||Elite 8||
Your top programs tend to make the Elite 8 pretty often. Over the last 10 years, this is how many times these teams have made the Elite 8:
UNC - 6
Florida - 6
Louisville - 5
UK - 5
MSU - 4
UConn - 4
Kansas - 4
Those programs are making the Elite 8 just about every other year.
|2 days 12 min ago||I get what you're saying but||
recruiting is a huge part of coaching.
|2 days 1 hour ago||Iowa last year||
probably isn't a very good comparison. At this time last last year Iowa was ranked 10th in the country and probably considered a lock for the tourney. They remained in the Top 25 all the way through the regular season.
UM is the opposite of Iowa. While Iowa was in the tourney and hoping not to fall out, UM is out of the tourney and hoping to get in.
|2 days 1 hour ago||Bad losses||
are going to be the killer. If they had beaten Eastern and NJIT, they'd be 15-6. 11-7 in the conference would have them at 20-10 heading into the BTT and at worst definitely in the discussion for a bid.
|2 days 2 hours ago||Bounces everything outside||
Don't most top level running backs in high school have the speed to bounce everything outside in high school? The catch is that when they hit college, the speed of the defenders has increased and bouncing everything outside doesn't work nearly as often as it did in high school.
|2 days 2 hours ago||Tight ends??||
How come everyone mentions Butt and Bunting but no one mentions Hill? I thought Hill was actually looking pretty good before his injury.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Yeah||
This is one of, if not the, favorite piece during football off-season.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Have you ever||
been to Athens and seen the female dawgs???
|3 days 20 hours ago||Agree||
UM has 3 healthy running backs heading into spring. You hope that Johnson makes a quick recovery and no one else gets hurt or else Harbaugh and staff will probably doing some position changes to get bodies at running back.
|4 days 31 min ago||MAC cupcakes||
As of right now, there isn't a single MAC team on UM's football schedule for the rest of the decade. I think there are still 3 open slots (2 in 2019 and 1 in 2018) so that might change.
|4 days 49 min ago||Maybe it's just me||
But the running back depth seems kind of low. 4 backs with one of them coming off his second knee surgery in two years.
|1 week 55 min ago||Shazor||
I thought he was real good in run support but not so great with the passing game.
|1 week 3 days ago||7-8 QB's on the roster||
I'd guess that Harbaugh assumes that if he takes 2 QB's every class, there will be attrition/transfers at that position especially. But at the same time, I'm with you - it's good to have competition. You hopefully never find yourself in a position where you're starting QB is your starter because there aren't any other viable alternatives on the roster.
|2 weeks 2 hours ago||Yeah||
One thing I'd like to see from Harbaugh is locking down the top talent in the state of UM. I know you can't base your entire roster from the state of MI but it'd at least be nice to see the top prospects heading to AA.
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||Yeah||
In the NFL the teams that tend to be good every year are usually pretty good orginizations that do a good job of drafting and player development.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||McGary's loss is turning out||
to be a crippling blow. UM has no inside game at all. Not that they had a ton with Morgan but but with McGary UM would havesomeone around the paint and out to 15' that the defense would have to respect if you send occassional double teams. His presence on the court would open up a lot of things for the perimeter players.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Oregon had their chances||
The dropped passes on 3rd down in the first quarter really hurt. They had already gotten first downs on those drives so they had started to move the ball. Heck, the second drop would have been a big gain.
For an offense that looked bad, they had their chances. They had 465 yds of offense. They had 3 trips inside OSU's 10 yd line that only netted them 2 FG's. At one point the announcers said both times had 4 trips into the redzone. OSU had 4 TD's and Oregon had 1 TD and 2 FG's.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah||
It seemed like early in the game, they were sending more then 3 and often times getting to Jones. Unfortunately, the Oregon defenders displayed piss poor tackling and usually tried to wrap him up at the shoulders. That didn't work and Jones was often able to get out of trouble. The long pass to Smith(?) by Jones was after he had been flushed from the pocket, but if I'm a DC and a QB makes that throw, I tip my cap and say let's see if you can do it again. Most of his scrambles weren't going for 20 or 30 yds. They were in the 5-10 yd variety. Why Oregon decided to go solely to a 3 man rush is frustrating.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||What year is Issac?||
Does he count towards the 2013 class?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Depends||
on the date of the rankings. OSU also faced Wisconsin, Bama and Oregon. MSU also played Baylor and had Oregon and Nebraska on their schedule. After OSU and MSU, there really aren't any teams on UM's schedule who have offenses that compare favorable with those opponents. Maybe ND and that's about it.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||This||
UM got to feast on some really bad QB's. Just using ESPN's QBR rating for QB's, in the second half of the season UM faced 4 QB's who had a worse QBR rating for the year then Devin Gardner - Hackenberg, Siemian, CJ Brown and IU's starter.
Also, Mattison loved to go to the prevent defense right before half time. I hope that trend is coming to an end.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Oline coach is still there||
It will be interesting to see how OSU does without Herman but Urban has had OC's leave before and he continues to have success. To me the big story of OSU's offense, besides the 3 QB's, was how well the oline came together. You watch the VTech tape and then watch the games against Wisky, Bama and Oregon and it's a completely different oline. As of now, OSU's oline coach will be with them next year.
Under Hoke/Funk the oline struggled in 2012, 2013 and for most of 2014. It took OSU 3 months to turn a disaster of an oline against VTech into a wrecking machine in December.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Toss Up Games||
If you go by recruiting rankings none of those should be toss ups. The big reason they were toss ups under Hoke was poor coaching/player development. There might be some growing pains and Harbaugh probably isn't going to be able to wave a magic wand with regards to player development, but I'd like to think that by year 3, if not year 2 a lot of what you consider toss ups will be penciled in the W column.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Really||
You do realize the team Bo inherited (1968) finished the season ranked in the Top 10.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||They haven't stopped OSU||
Turnovers have stopped OSU.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah||
I get Oregon's philosophy but sometimes you gotta take points.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||With Cardale's arm||
I think he's better then both Barrett and Miller.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||This is going to get ugly||
OSU has pretty much dominated after the first Oregon dirve. Those drops by Oregon on 3rd down are going to haunt them.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Well||
The Lakers are an institution in LA. Clippers and Kings are championship caliber teams. Also, they only need to draw 15,000 at those events to have a good crowd. I'm guessing a football stadium will be 70,000 - 80,000. As long as the team is good, they'll draw but if the team isn't very good, I doubt attendance will be that great.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Patriots loses||
I'm not sure how much of those 2 Super Bowl losses you pin on the Patriots defense. Yeah, they gave up late TD's, but the Giants only scored 21 and 17 points in those games.
The 17 points the Giants scored is the only time since SB 9 that the winning team hasn't scored at least 20 points. The Patriots offense was an absolute machine that year until the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl was the only time they didn't score at least 20 points.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Injury report||
On the ESPN ticker either Saturday night or Sunday morning he was listed as 'probable - thigh'.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||Improvement over the season||
How much of that was do to improved DB play vs going up against poor QB's?
CJ Brown of Maryland had a QBR rating of 41.3 for the year, Siemian of NU had 40.7, Diamont (starter for IU in UM game) had 17.0 and Hackenberg had 31.5. For comparison's sake, Gardner's QBR for the year was 42.4. So essentially UM was facing a bunch of QB's who were worse then Garnder during the later part of the year.
Nova's QBR rating for the year was 65.2, Cook was 71.9 and Barrett 81.9.
|3 weeks 22 hours ago||You might want to ask||
Gary Nova what he thought of UM's secondary.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||You have 0 projected starts||
for freshmen on the 2015 defense too. You projected starters for the 2015 are all upperclassmen.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Most scholarships are year to year||
Almost all scholarships are year to year, it's just that they are almost always renewed. Some schools have started telling recruits they'll honor that scholarship for 4 years.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Other upperclassmen||
in 2012 who saw a lot of time were JT Floyd and Cam Gordon.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||2015 Starting projections||
Seth - you say Peppers is a projected starter on the 2015 defense but then in the chart you have a 0 for projected sophomore starts on defense???
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Glasgow's||
they might have been walk on's but aren't they on scholarship now? At least under Hoke, these were two solid contributors.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||yeah||
it almost becomes a cycle. You pull 25 recruits one year, 25 the next, 17 the next and then 14. Unless you have attrition and early NFL departures it's hard to get out of that cycle quickly. So far based upon the OP there hasn't been much attirtion and Funchess is the only early NFL departure.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Walton's injury||
Does anyone know if Walton is even practicing?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Other than Dee Hart||
who are all the transfers?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||If that's what Nebraska wants||
why not go hard after Paul Johnson?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Why have a running back coach then?||
If the running back coach pretty much doesn't do anything, why have one? Are they relics from a by gone era that every coach in America is to scared to get rid of?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Arkansas running back coach||
is Joel Thomas. In the past 6 years he has been the running back coach at Washington for 4 years and 2 years at Arkansas. 5 out of those 6 years he's had a 1,000 yd rusher at running back, and if you go back to his last season at Purdue, he's had a 1,000 yd rusher in 6 of his last 7 seasons.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Solid winning program||
That is what Pelini had. Nebraska was going 9-4 on average during his tenure with multiple division titles (although no conference titles). Unless the Huskers are just looking for someone to do the same thing but with a better personality, I'd guess they are hoping for someone that can take them to the next level - consistent double digit win seasons with some conference titles.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Just in school||
A lot of school districts now require a financial contribution from the players/families to play a sport to help cover costs. Costs vary depending on the sport.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Damn||
The cheapest tickets (face value) for the title game are $470.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Talent||
If you look at recruiting results over the last 4-5 years, OSU and UM have been pretty even when it comes to signing high school players (OSU does have an edge). While Meyer has definitely done a better job of developing recruits, the difference in raw talent on the rosters (at least according to the recruiting rankings) isn't that great.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Talent||
If you look at recruiting results over the last 4-5 years, OSU and UM have been pretty even when it comes to signing high school players (OSU does have an edge). While Meyer has definitely done a better job of developing recruits, the difference in raw talent on the rosters (at least according to the recruiting rankings) isn't that great.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Ferentz||
This was brouoght up in the Iowa game thread but Ferentz has a huge contract and lots of years still on it. Iowa is stuck with Ferentz until he gets closer to the end of the contract. The buyout right now would be enormous.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I read somewhere||
that when Kelly recruited QB's at Oregon the first thing he looked for was a QB that could throw. He wanted mobility and a QB who could run, but if the QB wasn't a good passer he wasn't interested.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Experience||
the only way you can fix experience (if you're talking game experience) is by playing games. That won't be fixed before the fall but I think we will see improved QB play from the starter.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Red-shirt frosh??||
Not sure if he was redshirt or not but he played in '89 when Taylor got hurt. Grbac might have been raw but he performed fairly well in '89.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||The problem is||
they'd have to throw piles of cash at Ferentz if they fire him. Because of that contract, they're pretty much stuck with him for a few more years.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||They must have missed||
the OSU/Bama game last night.
|4 weeks 13 min ago||Woody's bowl record||
wasn't anything to write home about. During the '10 year war' while Bo was going 0fer in bowl games OSU was a whopping 2-5 with three of those losses costing OSU national titles and in 2 games OSU was heavily favored. His 1975 OSU team was undefeated and ranked #1 heading into the Rose Bowl to play a UCLA team that was 8-2-1 and had already lost 41-20 to OSU earlier in the year (in the LA Coliseum). In 1970 OSU was undefeated and ranked #2 heading into the Rose Bowl to play an 8-3 Stanford team. OSU lost (although OSU claims a NC for 1970 neither the AP or Coaches poll had them ranked #1).
|4 weeks 29 min ago||Yeah||
at the end of the day 10-3 is a good record, but the best wins on Miss St's resume this year are teams that ended the season with 5 or 6 losses.
|4 weeks 1 hour ago||Real big game||
If you figure going into conference play the goal is to hold serve at home and be 500 on the road, this is one of the road games you need to win. UM's schedule is set up for them to get off to a good start in conference play. They already beat Illinois - @ Purdue, @ PSU, Minny, @ OSU, NW, @ Rutgers. If they could be 6-1 before they hit their tough 4 game stretch, it would be huge.
|4 weeks 2 hours ago||2001 and 2000||
In 2001 Larry Coker won the NC in his first year, although that Miami team was loaded.
In 2000, Stoops won it in his second year at Oklahoma.
|4 weeks 4 hours ago||OSU and UM recruiting||
I realize recruiting rankings aren't the end all be all but according to the rankings UM and OSU have recruited at a similiar level. Meyer's done an incredible job of developing those recruits. UM under Hoke not so much. OSU is loaded but I don't exactly think the cupboard is bare at UM. Now maybe there will end up being a some whiffs on the UM roster, but I'm interested to see what Harbaugh can do with this roster.
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||Decline from what?||
Winning 3 national titles in 4 years? That decline was inevitable. They are still one of the top programs in the country. Saban set the bar high by winning 3 in 4 years but to think any program is going to continue on a run like that is crazy.
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||6-6 team in 2011||
That 2011 had loads of talent. The problem was Fickell was the 'head coach' and Braxton Miller was a true freshmen. Tressell had won 5 straight Big Ten titles and finished the season in the Top 10 all 5 of those years. In fact, they finished the season ranked in the Top 5 four of those 5 years. Meyer is a damn good coach but he walked into an OSU football program that was loaded with talent.
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||Actually||
FSU had that many yards because Oregon's defense was having a hard time stopping them. During the game the announcers said the Oregon coaches expected to give up a lot of yards between the 20's and hopefully make a stand in the red zone, which to their credit they did.
As long as OSU doesn't turn the ball over like FSU did, it'll be a good game.
No problem on helping you understand some of the nuances of the game. More then happy to help a fellow Wolverine!!
|4 weeks 13 hours ago||Yeldon was hurt||
the announcers were talking about that at the beginning of the game. It's why he didn't see the field much tonight.
|4 weeks 13 hours ago||OSU and Oregon's offenses||
are similiar. FSU's offense and Oregon's offense aren't that similiar. Not saying OSU's defense is going to perform great, but they go up against an offense similiar to Oregon's in practice everyday.
OSU/Oregon is going to be about who can score the most points. FSU had 528 yards of offense against Oregon's defense. The problem was they stumbled in the red zone early and turned the ball over 5 times.
|4 weeks 13 hours ago||I don't know||
if you look at how school's in the Big Ten have recruited over the last 4-5 years, OSU and UM are head and shoulders above everyone else in terms of the high school talent they have signed. OSU has lost one conference game in 3 years under Meyer. They are 25-1 and have over a 400 pt differential in points scored vs poinst scored against them in those conference games.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||A&M beat WVU||
but yeah, the SEC west isn't having that great of a showing in bowl games.
Not sure how terrible their non-conference was. Auburn went to Kansas St. LSU played Wisky on a neutral field. Bama played WVU on a neutral field. Arkansas went to Texas Tech. Ole Miss played Boise St.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Agree||
IMO, the non-conference schedule is a bit tricky. Utah and BYU aren't 'blue blood' programs that are good every year but they will both probably be good next year with each possibly pre-season Top 25. MSU and OSU are solid programs and will be tough. However, if you look at recruiting rankings UM has done way better on the recruiting trail then everyone in the Big Ten except OSU. If Harbaugh and his staff can make a solid impact in their first year I'd like to think 5 or 6 wins in conference play should be the floor.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Looks like||
I'm one of the few people that isn't gaga about Mattison coming back. I realize he has some strengths but I don't think he's that great. I'm assuming he thought Countess could play press man coverage. He almost always went to the prevent defense right before the half. I got tired of watching UM's defense make the opponents QB look like they were all big ten, when against most teams they were at best average.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Yeah||
I hate OSU but the way the SEC has been taking hits this bowl season, at this point I'm in favor of OSU pounding Bama.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Yeah||
FSU's offense moved the ball. Their problem was they sputtered in red zone some and then couldn't hold onto the ball in the second half.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||PHYSICALITY||
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Who's got it better then us???||
I'm assuming by 'us' you mean the fans. If so, the people that have it better then us are the players. I'm guessing they are about to get a 180 degree turnaround in the quality of the coaching staff and development.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Amen Magnum||
I've said in a few threads over the last week or so, but the amount of talent Hoke recruited based upon the high school rankings is head and shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten except OSU.
Yeah, QB is a question mark but Harbaugh has done fine with QB's at just about every stop. He turned Alex Smith into a viable NFL QB - not Brady/Manning but Smith is a serviceable NFL QB who was just about in the 'bust' catagory before Harbaugh went to the Niners. In Harbaugh's first year at Stanford he beat USC when Stanford was a 41 point dog and had to start a 3rd string QB. Whoever starts at QB I'm not expecting them to set the world on fire but I'd like think they will look like a legit Big Ten QB.
For all of Hoke's faults, he somehow was able to get the players up for the OSU game. In the last two years they went toe to toe with OSU. 2 years ago it was for 60 minutes and this past year it was for about 53 minutes.
One thing that gives me pause in thinking he might blast off in his first year is the OOC schedule next year. IMO, it's not that easy. First game on the road against what might be a Top 25ish team in Utah. Home against what can be a fiesty Oregon St team (although they too will be acclimating to a new coach). UNLV should be a win but BYU isn't going to be a walk in the park. 2-2 isn't out of the realm of possibility heading into Big Ten play.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||AMEN!!!!||
Who knows how Morris or any of the QB's on UM's roster will turn out but like you said, Harbaugh turned Alex Smith into a guy who was teetering on being catagorized as a 'bust' into a viable NFL QB...and Harbaugh did that basically overnight.
I don't know if UM will have a stud QB next year but I'd like to think Harbaugh will make one of the QB's a viable Big Ten QB.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Weaver||
Just cause a guy orally committed to UM while Hoke was here doesn't mean Harbaugh is going to be keep him. With the 2015 class, since it's pretty late in the process I'm guessing Harbaugh will keep the the guys who have orally committed. However, with 2016 commits I'd think Harbaugh will evaluate them and see if he wants to keep them to go in a different direction.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Alex Smith||
Alex Smith was pretty much an NFL journeyman who was headed towards 'bust' territory until Harbaugh revived his NFL career.
Also, remember that in Harbaugh's first year at Stanford they upset USC when Stanford was a 41 pt dog, and Stanford did it with a 3rd string QB starting that game.
I have no idea how Morris is going to end up but I'm interested to see what Harbaugh can do with Morris and Speight.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah||
the little bit I heard, Cowherd was saying this was great for UM and the Big Ten.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||What's YOUR deal???||
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Concur||
I'm a little leary hearing Mattison is staying. If it's as a position coach, fine. If it's as DC, no thanks.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Mattison||
just please make sure he's not allowed to call the prevent defense towards the end of a half.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Stanford||
was a true rebuilding job. I think the situations at Stanford and UM are apples and oranges. If you look at the recruiting rankings for the Big Ten the last 4 years, OSU and UM are light years ahead of everyone else in terms of the number of 4 and 5 star recruits they've signed. The question, imo, is how quickly Harbaugh can develop these recruits. QB is a definite question mark though.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Fickell????||
Unless the 'interim' tage counts him out.
|5 weeks 2 hours ago||Most frustrating||
thing to me about the defense was how often the opponent scored right before halftime and to a lesser extent on their first drive after halftime.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Mattison||
I just hope he isn't in charge of the two minute defense. I'm tired of seeing teams go right down the field against his prevent defense.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Agree||
I'll preface this by saying recruiting rankings aren't the end all be all, but in general they give you a pretty good idea of how much potential should be on a roster. If you look at recruiting rankings over the last 4-5 years in the Big Ten, OSU and UM have far and away accumulated more 4 and 5 star players then the other Big Ten teams. The 3rd place team, Nebraska, isn't even close to UM in terms of the amount of 4 and 5 star high school recruits on the roster. If UM can get the right coach (Harbaugh please) that can develop players and can continue to recruit like Hoke did (if not possibly better), I don't think it's to far fetched to see UM and OSU dominating the Big Ten.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Tressell||
doesn't he still have the 'show cause' punishment for a couple more years or does that only apply if he's the head coach?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Marcus Allen too||
Was on USC's team that won the NCAA title in '79. Heisman in '81, won Super Bowl with the Raiders in '83 and HOF in 2003. Allen also has a Super Bowl MVP in '83 as well as the NFL MVP in 1985.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Agree||
As much as people want to believe recruits are choosing a school to attend, the relationship a recruit has with the coaching staff is huge. With the top end recruits they've been recruited by schools for 2-3 years. They've probably had numerous phone conversations as well as face to face conversations with various members of a schools coaching staff. Yeah, there's some recruits who put a lot of stock in the actual school but for most of these kids the relationship they have with the coaching staff is going to be one of, if not the, primary decision as to where they go.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||And in two of those wins||
UM probably executed their only two successful 2 minute offenses under Hoke.
|6 weeks 1 hour ago||A lot of the programs you list||
as having great 5-6 runs, also pay for it with NCAA sanctions due to them getting caught for breaking rules.
|6 weeks 2 hours ago||Come on folks||
Brian isn't in San Francisco. He's in Santa Clara.
|6 weeks 3 hours ago||Honestly||
I don't see Harbaugh as a long term coach at UM. I think he still has NFL aspirations so even if he comes to UM, I don't think he stays much longer then 6-8 years.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||She's just looking||
You know how some people have winter homes or summer homes? She's just looking for a fall/autumn home.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Lived in Bay Area||
from the early 90's to the early 00's. While these teams do not play each other often during the regular season, there is a definite desire to be the alpha dog in the area.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Full control for Jim||
I wonder how the Niners would handle the chances of a team trading for Harbaugh and giving him full control. Completely hypothetical here - Niners say we'll take a 4th round this year and 6th round next year if we're trading him to be your coach. Oh, you're giving him a GM title as well. We also want a 2nd round pick either this year or next year then too.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Raiders||
I can't believe the Niners would trade Harbaugh to their cross town rivals. These people have egos. If Harbaugh turns around the Raiders and the Niners fail to get back to their NFC Championship game level in Harbaugh's first 3 years, the Niners management would be reminded of that every day in the papers, radio, tv, etc.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||One of the big reasons||
RR left WVU is because he and the AD didn't get along.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not sure||
what the language is in Harbaugh's contract, but I'm guessing there aren't too many NFL teams who will trade for Harbaugh unless he signs an extension as part of the trade. He's only under contract through 2015. Whatever the language is in Harbaugh's contract I'm guessing he'll be able to kill any trade simply be refusing to sign an extension with the proposed new team.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||John Robinson and the Rams||
"USC picked up the guy that made the local NFL team watchable..."
The Rams were watchable before Robinson arrived. They were actually one of the best teams in the NFC during the 70's. They made the Super Bowl in 1979, losing to the Steelers.
They won something like 5 or 6 straight NFC West titles in the 70's but with the exception of 1979 could never get by Dallas or Minnesota. Their dline was known as the Fearsome Foursome (3 of the 4 guys are in the HOF).
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Harbaugh's contract with SF||
doesn't end for a year. He's signed with the Niners through the 2015 season.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Harbaugh's options||
aren't completely in his hands with regards to the NFL. He's under contract with the Niners through the 2015 season. So while there will be other openings besides the Raiders, the Niners aren't just going to cut Harbaugh loose and let him be a free agent. Any NFL team interested in Harbaugh will technically have to work through the Niners.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I wonder if this will lead||
in the future to more upward migration of D3 and D2 coaches. Buffalo hired the Wisconsin-Whitewater coach. Stitt went from D2 to 1-AA. While these are rare cases right now, I wonder if we'll see that trend continue and possibly increase.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||It's night and day||
Agree. While the X's and O's are similiar, if not the same, a lot of the off field stuff is very completely different with college and the nfl.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||John Harbaugh||
was he ever really a serious candidate outside of some internet postings? The guy has spent the last 15+ years in the NFL. He's won a Super Bowl and the Ravens are a pretty solid organization. Outside of some rumblings with the Ray Rice incident Harbaugh seems to get along with Ozzie and the Ravens front office pretty well.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Foley and Muschamp||
Not sure why Foley gets negged for the initial hiring of Muschamp. It obviously didn't work out but at the time it was a huge get for Florida. Muschamp was one of the hottest names out there and was lined up to be the next head coach at Texas. At the time of the Muschamp hire most people thought Foley had pulled one out of his hat.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||The clock is ticking though||
IMO, with the Niners eliminated from the plalyoffs, the clock begins to tick for Hackett. As long as the Niners still were in the playoff hunt, we could all sit back and say nothing is going to happen. I think the window now is about 3 weeks. I'm guessing Hackett would like to have a coach in place relatively soon after the calendar turns to 2015.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Disagree||
as long as Jim is still employed by the Niners, other teams cannot talk to him about a potential job. The best situation is for the Niners to keep him under contract and try to trade him. UM can talk to Harbaugh all they want while other NFL teams technically cannot talk to him.
As long as Harbaugh remains under contract with the Niners, the only leverage he has in controlling if and where he coaches in the NFL next year is by agreeing to or refusing to sign an extension with a new team via a trade.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||That's why||
you don't want the Niners to fire him. If the Niners try to trade him, Jim essentially has veto rights. Like you said, no team is probably going to trade for Harbaugh if he isn't going ot sign an extension. Harbaugh's leverage is that if the Niners try to trade him to a team/organization that he doesn't want to go to, Harbaugh can simple tell the team he isn't signing an extension. I'd assume Harbaugh's refusal to sign an extension would kill just about any trade.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||AFC picture||
Pats and Bronco's are ahead for byes. Both of these teams have 3 losses and the Colts have 4. Also, both the Pats and Broncos beat the Colts.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Bama's offense||
How much control, other then hiring the kind of OC he likes, does Saban have on the offense?
He pretty much let Nuss go after last year and brought in Kiffin.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||What I wonder||
is how many people that bought the jersey in your picture have also bought Denard Robinson's jersey with the Jacksonville Jaguars?
I'm guessing not many. Why? Because the jersey in your picture is associated with the University of Michigan.
|7 weeks 2 hours ago||Bowl prepareations and practices||
If Harbaugh has said no, not sure why Hackett would wait. Coaches take new jobs all the time and leave before their team plays in the bowl game. Chyrst and McElwain are two examples this year. Heck, RR left WVU to come to UM during this time in 2007. Stewart was WVU's coach in the BCS bowl that year.
|7 weeks 2 hours ago||Hmmmmm||
That's why I didn't say all of their listed candidates.
|7 weeks 3 hours ago||Unsurpassed expertise||
I wouldn't say to many of the 'high profile' placements they have listed are ringing endorsements for their unsurpassed expertise.
|7 weeks 4 hours ago||Can't say I disagree||
with what Carter is saying about UM's S&C program. There's been plenty of complaints/questions about how good UM's S&C program is. When I watch other teams play, at least to my eyes it looks like their players are generally bigger and more ripped then the players UM has on the field, especially when it comes to the dline and LB's.
|7 weeks 4 hours ago||Bielema and Anderson leaving||
Without knowing the inner workings of the Wisky AD and football program I think the thing that shocked most people is where Bielema and Anderson ended up. Arkansas, while in a better conference, was looked at as a lateral move. I think most people look at Wisky to Oregon St as a step down. It'd be different if these guys left for what most consider a more 'blue blood' program.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||Heck yeah||
My interest in the Nebraska/Wisconsin game each year would increase significantly.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||Family and leaving the Bay Area||
The catch with Harbaugh's family not wanting to leave the Bay Area as well as the fact that his family from his previous marriage is in the Bay Area - there doesn't appear to be a lot of options for Jim to coach football next year and stay on the west coast.
The Pac-12 is the only Power 5 conference anywhere near the west coast and with Oregon State's recent hiring there aren't any coaching vacancies in the Pac-12.
If the Niners and Harbaugh part ways after the season, there's really only one possible opening for him - the Raiders. The Niners control the rights to Harbaugh in 2015 and I seriously doubt they'd want to trade him to their cross town rivals.
If the Niners fire Harbaugh, then he's free to coach anywhere he can get a job. The question he'll have to ask himself though is - do I want to take the job with one of the worst organizations in pro sports (Raiders)?
It's like you said, there will always be opportunities to go back to the NFL and probably better opportunities then what the Raiders can offer next year.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||Like I said||
Take it for what it's worth. How much credence anyone wants to give what that person posted is up to them.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Actually||
if Detroit and Seatlle win this weekend the Niners are eliminated from the playoffs.
As it stands now the Niners are 7-6.
Arizona is 10-3. So if the Niners and Cardinals lose the Niners will still be 3 behind with only 2 to play.
Detroit and Seattle are 9-4. If both of those teams win then Green Bay, Arizona, Seattle and Detroit will all be at worst 3 games ahead of the Niners with 2 games to play.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||This||
the only opening in the NFL on the west coast this offseason is probably going to be Oakland. Seattle and Arizona are almost guaranteed to not have openings. Unless San Diego implodes in these final 3 games, they probably won't have an opening either.
Oregon St was the only Pac-12 that had an opening and it was filled. So unless Jim is going to take a year off from coaching, he more then likely won't be coaching on the west coast next year.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Colorado||
to some extent agree but they have a few disadvantages. While the campus is very nice, there are no good recruiting areas very close to Boulder. Colorado doesn't produce a ton of D1 talent and the states that surround Colorado are: Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona and Utah. They pretty much need to poach recruits from 2-3 states away. Boulder isn't exactly the most diverse campus either.
In addition, local support for the football team is pretty poor. Like most schools when they are winning support is good, but there are a TON of transplants that live in the Denver area who have no interest in CU sports. These past few years, they're lucky if the stadium is half full and there have been games this year where the student section is pretty much empty. In addition, I'd charactize Denver as a pro sports town. The Bronco's are far and away the king of the hill.
Most people were hoping that the move to the Pac-12 would help with recruiting, especially in southern California. CU lobied hard to be in the same division as USC and UCLA. So far the move to the Pac-12 hasn't done much for better recruiting.
I'd definitely put CU ahead of OSU and WSU in terms of Pac-12 jobs, but not sure I'd move them much higher then 10th.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||yeah||
Their defense completely fell apart during the second half of the year. When you look at Kelly's record that you posted, outside of the 12-1 year his other years aren't that much better then what Willingham and Weis posted.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||A few days ago||
someone posted in a thread that they work out at the same gym as a former UM AD. Take if for what it's worth but they chatted about Harbaugh and the former AD said that the 'issues/stories' regarding Jim's wife are a valid concern.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Not much||
He and Whittingham are both Mormoms. While both are good coaches, I'm not sure how much interest either has in leaving Utah to live somewhere else.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||It's weird||
In one section it says Harbaugh gave Woodson the general press conference answer but then in the next section Woodson thinks there's almost no chance. Was there more to the conversation in the first section or was maybe Charles reading more into Harbaugh's answer (his body language and facial expressions)?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||WVU||
I think they have had 2 coaching changes over this period. Stewart took over after RR and then Holgerson (sp?) replaced Stewart.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||They won't go Ofer||
but I'm not expecting the conference to have much success in the bowl games.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||PSU||
Wouldn't they have 2 turnovers during this period? How long was O'Brien at PSU?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Our search||
sounds a lot like how Brandon's search for Hoke might have gone down.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Wonder if||
you'll get more playing time then Brionte Dunn has?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||2005 - 2011||
According to the final AP poll these are the ranked teams LSU played each year:
2005: Bama 8th, Georgia 10th, Florida 12, Auburn 14, Miami FL 17. LSU finished 6th.
2006: Florida 1, Auburn 9, Arkansas 15, Notre Dame 17, Tennessee 25, LSU finished 3rd.
2007: OSU 5, VaTech 9, Florida 13, Auburn 15. LSU was NC.
2008: Florida 1, Bama 6, Georgia 13, Ole Miss 14, Georgia Tech 22. LSU was unranked.
2009: Bama 1, Florida 3, Penn St 9, Ole Miss 20. LSU finished 17.
2010: Auburn 1, Bama 10, Arkansas 12, Miss St 15, A&M 19, LSU finished 8.
2011: Bama 1, Bama 1, Oregon 4, Arkansas 5, West Virginia 17, Georgia 19. LSU finished 2.
If you think that is making hay against weak schedules, I'd love to see what your examples of a tough schedule are.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Issues/Red flags||
There's going to be issues/red flags with just about every possible candidate. You mention working in new recruiting grounds as an issue with Miles. Well, that's going to be an issue with the vast majority of candidates. Harbaugh has spent his entire coaching career on the west coast.
There's also no guarantee any coach that UM gets will be here for the long term. If UM is able to land Harbaugh, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's gone within 5-8 years. Of all the candidates being mentioned, Harbaugh is probably the biggest flight risk of them all imo. I'm guessing if he comes to UM, if the right opportunity opened up for him in the NFL, he'd probably take it.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Couple things||
How many running backs are on NFL rosters from UM?
Mettenberger is a starter, which I think means LSU has as many starting QB's in the NFL as UM.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Offensive coaching||
Below is a list of LSU players in the NFL for week 14 of the NFL. QB has been an issue for Miles at LSU no doubt, but there plenty of offensive players on this list.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Younger vs Older coaches||
Agree completely with what you said. I dont understand why people are so hung up on someone's age. If UM hires some guy in his late 40's/early 50's, there's no guarantee he's going to be here for 20 years. Now, just by his age versus say someone who is 61 there is the possiblility that they younger guy has a longer tenure.
However, like you said, if Miles comes here at the age of 61, as long as he's successful, he's not going any where else.
At the end of the day, I would think the number one hope for most of us is to get someone who can turn UM around relatively fast. Whether that person is 61 or 41 shouldn't matter.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Miles at OSU||
From 1989 through 2000, OSU had exactly one season above .500, 1997 when they went 8-4. Miles coached at OSU from 2001 - 2004 and in 3 of his 4 seasons OSU finished above 500.
In the Bedlam series against Oklahoma Miles went 2-2, and the two wins were against Oklahoma teams ranked #3 and #4 in the country. Before Miles Oklahoma St hadn't beaten a ranked Oklahoma team since 1976.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Not progressing||
This year is a mystery. He had a pretty solid year in 2013, especially after they moved him to more of a wr role. His final stats for 2013 were 47 catches, 727 yds, 6 TD's with a lot of that production coming after his move away from the TE position.
I think most people were expecting big things this year and after a solid game against an over matched Appy St, he really didn't do much.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I'm not saying||
Mariota doesn't deserve it, I'm just saying if Gordon had a good game against OSU, the voting for the Hesiman might have been pretty close. However, with Wisky's and Gordon's performance OSU against, any chance Gordon had probably went out the window.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Gordon||
had a good shot going into the BTCG, but after OSU shut him down, it'll be Mariota in a landslide.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Recruiting and NFL scouts||
The recruits need to be developed once they come to UM. Just because UM hasn't put a lot of players in the NFL lately doesn't mean they aren't getting a lot of quality players out of high school.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||The wife issue||
if that is a legit issue then Harbaugh doesn't have a lot of options if he wants to coach next year and stay on the west coast. The Seahawks and Cardinals probably aren't going to have job openings. San Diego more then likely won't either. In terms of the NFL that leaves the Niners and Raiders. If the stories are true he won't be coaching the Niners next year, I can't believe the Niners are going to trade Harbaugh to their rivals across the bay. Maybe I'm wrong and they do, but if the wife issue is true, Harbaugh might not be coaching in the NFL next year.
When you look at the college landscape on the west coast with job openings, Oregon St is it (at least in terms of Power 5 conference teams on the west coast).
So if Harbaugh really wants to coach next year, be it in the NFL or college, and stay on the west coast, there aren't going to be many opportunities. If the Niners fire him, I guess he could take a year off from coaching with pay and see what opens up next year. However, if Harbaugh wants to be coaching next year, it's more likely not going to be on the west coast whether that is in college or the NFL.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||USC/Nebraska||
I'm shocked that line isn't bigger.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah||
That was crippling loss today. Depending on what happens next weekend, a loss to the Seahawks and the Niners could be mathematically eliminated.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Gary Gibbs at OU||
was a flop. John Blake was a flop at OU too. Bill Callahan at Nebraska. Paul Hackett at USC. Ray Goff at Georgia. David McWilliams at Texas.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||this year||
TCU used to be mainly a pro-style offense in the same vein as MSU and Stanford. Patterson changed the offensive style this year.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Most sense||
This makes the most sense to me. You then have 3 teams relatively close to each other in Cincy, Memphis and WVU. With Memphis and Cincy you encroach on the SEC's territory some as well as the Big Ten.
They also both have decent basketball programs so it helps you there as well.
If BYU joins in all sports you can have scheduling headaches cause BYU insists they don't play games on Sunday for religous reasons. BYU is always placed in a Thurs/Sat region in March Madness.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Actually no||
if you go back and look through the years with the Big 12 in a two way tie for the division, the head to head winner represented the division in the conference title game.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah but||
right now you're looking at 1 loss team from a 'power 5' conference getting left out. If you go to 8 teams, you say the 5 conference champions get in and 3 at large. Will there be bickering about the 3? Yes but imo once you start getting into the 2 loss teams the cry won't be given as much weight as the cry coming from a 1 loss conference champion being left out.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||why not?||
They've split the 2 games they've played with Oregon. Arizona won in Eugene and Oregon won a neutral field.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||One quibble||
This weekend would be a good example. What happens when you have 2 in the Top 8 playing each other in a conference title game like with Arizona vs Oregon? Does Arizona get punished for losing the conference title game while a team that didn't have to play a conference title game slides in? When the rankings come out tomorrow, Arizona will have dropped and both MSU's, if not more teams, will have moved in front of them.
Agree the playoff needs to get to 8, but that is one item they'll need to figure out.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Seeding||
could make a difference, especially if they did the quarterfinals at the home of the higher seed.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||In addition||
if they set up right, most of the games could be played while schools are on break.
The whole 'the kids would miss more class time' is such a crock. Basketball players miss way more class time then football players do and that's both in the regular season and especially during conference tourneys and March Madness.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||FSU - Yes||
but if OSU makes it probably the only way they play FSU is in the championship game.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Agree||
The two previous weeks OSU struggled against two sub 500 teams before pulling away late - IU and UM.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||No||
Rose Bowl is one of the semi final games. Assuming Oregon stays at 2, it'll be Oregon against the 3 seed in the Rose Bowl. Sugar Bowl is the other semi.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Watching all the big boys this weekend||
Oregon, Alabama, OSU, FSU makes you realize how poor the UM team is and has been. I know FSU is having problems with GTech on defense but damn do they have tons of speed on their team. When their rb's and wr's get 2-3 yds to run untouched they just kick into a different gear.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||This||
Navy usually gives the big boys problems. GTech has was better athletes then Navy. It's an offense that teams almost never see and to try and prep for it in one week is very tough because most scout teams can't even come close to replicating the precision of Navy or GTech.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I want FSU||
because if FSU wins the committee is going to be in a huge bind. OSU looks damn good but is ranked #5. The committee just moved TCU to #3 last week and they rolled today 55-3. How in the world does the committee drop them 2 spots?
If the rankings last Tuesday were based upon the first 11/12 games that each team has played, can TCU really drop 2 spots?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah||
the committe putting TCU ahead of FSU might put them in a pickle after this weekend. IF FSU wins, how do you keep the only undefeated team and defending national champs out no matter how close their games have been this year? But then can you really drop TCU 2 spots after they win 55-3?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||2006||
would like to talk to you. But yeah, agree.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Vegas and Pac-12||
Almost half the schools in the Pac-12 are fairly close to Vegas. USC, UCLA, ASU and UA aren't very far away and Utah isn't that bad of a distance either. Not sure if it's changed but when I lived in the Bay Area you could get fairly cheap airfare to Vegas - $150 or less.
|8 weeks 33 min ago||Good points||
As long as Jim is successful the opportunity to coach in the NFL will probably always be there. Heck, there's a handful of NFL openings every year. However, the opportunity to coach at UM might not. Who knows maybe Harbaugh turns it down and the new hire flops so in another 4-5 years the opportunity to coach UM is there again but there's also the chance that the new coach is successful and maybe he stays for 15-20 yrs. Then Harbaugh's window to coach at UM is over.
In addition, this wouldn't be a rebuild like he had at Stanford. Based upon the post yesterday, UM has tons of returning starts coming back next year, and if the recruiting services are any where close to correct, the cupboard is anything but bare. Harbaugh should be able to hit the ground running and not worry about having to slog through some 2-10/5-7 type seasons like he did at Stanford.
|8 weeks 51 min ago||Tiebreakers||
Niners beat the Cowboys and Eagles earlier in the year so the Niners own the head to head with those teams. Have no idea with the Lions. The Seahawk game in two weeks is huge for the Niners because of tiebreaker issues. Getting swept by the Seahawks would mean the Niners have to finish ahead of the Seahawks to either win the division or get a wild card spot ahead of the Seahawks.
|8 weeks 1 hour ago||Arizona||
is definitely a big x factor in all this. A couple of weeks ago most people thought they were close to a lock to win the division.
The Seattle game is huge for the Niners because of the tiebreaker issues. There's a lot of football left to played but the Niners don't control their destiny. They are 2 games behind the Carindals and Eagles and a game behind the Cowboys (technically 1.5 games after last night), Lions and Seahawks. The Niners probably can't afford to lose more then 1 game the rest of the way if they want to make the playoffs.
With Seattle and Eagles playing this weekend and Seattle/SF and Eagles/Cowboys next weekend, the Niners playoff hopes will probably be a lot clearer in 10 days.
|8 weeks 2 hours ago||Agree||
The Niners get the Raiders this weekend so they will more then likely continue to be in the playoff hunt next week. However, the following weekend they go to Seattle and depending what happens this weekend and next, the Niners might be eliminated or their playoff hopes might be hanging on a thread come December 16th.
|8 weeks 2 hours ago||Tend to agree but||
I'd say if Harbaugh is the number 1 target it's a waiting game as long as the Niners are in the playoff hunt. If/once the Niners are eliminated from the playoff picture we will probably know pretty quickly whether Harbaugh is going to be the next coach. The kicker with all this is if the Niners somehow turn it around and make the playoffs - the wait becomes even longer. However, with no other big name schools looking for a coach the odds of a Stoops, Whittingham, Miles, etc. still being available a mont or say from now is almost 100%.
I said in another thread and Brian said the same thing here, one of the best things to happen to UM was Florida and Nebraska hiring their new coaches so quickly. At this point if Harbaugh is #1 on the list, UM probably doesn't have to worry to much about their #2 or #3 options being hired by someone else within the next month.
|8 weeks 3 hours ago||It's a smart move||
If the Niners are going to try and trade Harbaugh, as long as the UM position remains open Harbaugh can pretty much use the threat of taking the UM job as leverage in any contract negotiations with another NFL team.
|8 weeks 3 hours ago||Big Name candidates||
To be honest I don't think the ship will have sailed on other big name candidates. At this point, UM is the only 'marquee' job available. If you consider guys like say Stoops and Miles big name candidates, the odds of them taking a job somewhere else between now and say early January is almost nill. Unless another big name school fires a coach, what other jobs are out there that a Stoops or Miles would take?
At this point, the only other current openings are Kansas, Colorado St and Oregon St, right? For the most part, I don't think these schools are going to be looking at the same candidates UM is.
The guys who ship might have sailed are coordinators looking to become head coaches and guys at lower level schools looking to make a move up the coaching ranks. Unless UM strkies out on all the 'tier 1' and probably 'tier 2' coaches, I don't think too many ships will have sailed if UM is focusing on Harbaugh right now. One of the best things to happen to UM in this coaching search was Florida and Nebraska making quick hires and hiring guys that weren't very high on Hackett's radar, if they were on his radar at all.
|8 weeks 4 hours ago||There's so many variables||
I'm starting to just drown out all the Harbaugh talk. Not that I don't think there's a chance he might come here but depending on who you listen to there seem to be so many variables.
The first is his wife supposedly doesn't want to leave the west coast. If there's any semblance of truth to this then the possible opportunities for where Harbaugh could be coaching next year are extremely limited. If he wants to be in the NFL, then there are probably only two options - the Niners or the Raiders. At this point, none of the other west coast NFL teams will probably have job openings. It's also probably pretty doubtful there will be many college openings on the west coast, at least at high level D1 schools which on the west coast is really only the Pac-12. Right now, Oregon St is the only opening and unless one of the other coaches at a Pac-12 school leaves, there probably won't be any more openings.
Sure there might be other NFL openings around the country, but the Niners control the rights to Harbaugh in 2015, unless they fire him. If the Niners are truly looking to trade him, that puts Harbaugh in a position of strength. I doubt too many NFL teams are going to trade for Harbaugh if his services are only guaranteed for one year. So any team looking to trade for Harbaugh is probably going to want to work out an extension with Jim before the trade is finalized. If Harbaugh doesn't want to work for a certain team/owner/location he can simply say he's not going to sign an extension and then that trade is probably dead.
|8 weeks 4 hours ago||D2||
When I went to school in the Philly area 20 years ago the University of Sciences was a pretty good D2 bball school - not sure today. However, with sports when you start talking about the differences in D1, D2, D3 it's really just that the guys in the next division up are a little bigger, stronger, faster. When you start talking about a lower level D1 team playing possibly a pretty good D2 team, the differences in talent and size might not be very noticeable. Especially in a sport like bball where there are only 5 guys on the court at a time and 1 or 2 really good players can make a huge difference in the game, an upset like this shouldn't be that surprising.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||Post of the Day||
Short, concise and directly to the point.
|8 weeks 21 hours ago||That's not the point||
Brian said you have to go back to the '50's to find a coach who could keep MSU above .500 for an extended period of time. Either he purposely omitted Sherrill's tenue to make his argument for Mullen sound better or he didn't do very good research to begin with.
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||Jackie Sherrill||
Brian - when you researched the history of MSU football, did Jackie Sherrill's tenure not appear?
From 1991 through 2000 under Jackie Sherill MSU went: 7-5, 7-5, 4-5-2, 8-4, 3-8, 5-6, 7-4, 8-5, 10-2 (won SEC West) and 8-4. That's a decade of football where MSU went 60-42-2??
|8 weeks 23 hours ago||Oline||
A lot of OSU fans think really highly of Warinner because of the work he's been able to do with OSU's olines the past couple of years.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||yeah||
That's what I was thinking too.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||For who?||
Are they anti-harbaugh?
|8 weeks 1 day ago||QB starts||
Was Dreisbach on the '98 team? 1998 shows they had a QB who had started before, but neither Brady or Henson had started a game before 1998.
How is the QB starts greater in 2002 then in 2001? In 2001, the QB that started each game in 2000 was back (Navarre started 4 in 2000 and Henson started 8). However, the QB starts in 2002 should only be 4 (Navarre's 4 starts in 2000).
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Sugar Bowl||
Molk was pretty much playing on one leg. In fact, I don't think he started the game but the oline performance with him on the sideline was so bad, he tried to give it a go the rest of the game.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||SEC||
It's a dog eat dog world.
James Franklin saw the light. While he was probably not going to make Vandy his last coaching stop, he parlayed a couple good years into the head job at some people probably consider a blue blood program.
Not only that, the committee, probably to most people's laughter, isn't rewarding to many SEC teams for playing in the SEC. Alabama is #1 and then MSU is the second SEC team at something like 10th. If this was the BCS era, there'd probably be 3-4 SEC teams in the Top 10.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Tons of risk, very little reward||
I'm definitely not one who has maize and blue goggles on that thinks being HC of football at UM is the ultimate goal of most coaches, but I don't know how much of a rebuilding job there is to do here. If you look at the recruiting rankings since 2010, UM has far and away recruited the second most 4 and 5 star players in the conference. They went toe to toe with OSU in 2013 for 60 minutes. They went toe to toe with OSU in 2014 for about 50 minutes.
It's not like you need to overhaul the roster (unless the coach is planning on doing a 180 in offensive philosophies), you need to develop the players and get them to play better.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Herman||
No doubt looks like a solid OC, but at this stage UM needs to go after the big boys. No one's a sure thing but Hackett needs to start by going after Head Coaches who have had success - your Harbaugh, Miles, the supposed Tier 1 coach that is nameless. If nothing comes from the big boys then you start to look at the next level guys.
Maybe Herman will be a really good HC, but at this point UM can't take a chance on him without first going after Tier 1 type prospects.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Some favor the Niners||
The Niners have beaten both the Cowboys and the Eagles. Whoever doesn't win the East will probably be battling for a wild card spot.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||The catch with Harbaugh||
is as long as the Niners are in playoff contention, I don't think he's going to leave. If Hackett is putting an all out assault on getting Harbaugh, it probably means waiting until the Niners are eliminated from playoff contention and/or the playoffs before it's official. Since the Niners have the Raiders this weekend, they are most likely still going to be in the playoff race another 10 days. They travel to Seattle for a game on the 14th. That very well could be a must win for the Niners playoff chances.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||McElwain||
While Dee Hart has definitely been a bonus to them this year, this team is far from a one man team. They have an olinemen who plays tackle that some think could go in the first round. Their QB is also projected to be a mid-late round pick. Depending on where you look their TE is possibly a late round prospect. They have a corner who is projected to go in the middle rounds and an LB in the later rounds.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Doesn't allow JUCO's||
Unless the unversity policy has changed, this is incorrect. Carr had a couple of juco's on his team. The problem, at least as I understand it, is the credits players have earned at juco's have a hard time transferring/getting accepted at UM. So it's not that UM doesn't allow juco's, it's just that it is really rare.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Agree||
In addition you've just played 4 games in 7 days.
Having a few cupcakes lets you try some different things in games that you wouldn't against Syracuse/Arizona/etc. It also lets you get some extra minutes to the young guys and guys like Max. You want a solid OOC schedule but you definitely want to mix in some easy wins.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Let's be honest||
If Harbaugh comes here, there's no guarantee he stays long term. He could come here for 4-5 years, have really good success and then head back to the NFL if the right job opened up. Harbaugh's only around 50yrs old. If he chooses to come to UM it's not like he's shutting the door on any possibility of ever returning to the NFL.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Actually||
it's not uncommone for coaches to take a new job before their team plays in the a bowl game, and then an interim coach takes over the bowl game. Now, the coach isn't going to publicly say anything until he takes the job. RR left WVU to come to UM between the end of the regular season and WVU's bowl game. Bill Stewart took over the WVU coaching duties for the bowl game after RR left.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Agree||
the amount of people on here that believe just about every coach thinks UM is the holy grail of coaching and will come running if contacted is pretty high.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Agree||
I'd assume the 'search' firm/Hackett will come up with a list of candidates and prioritize them. Reach out to the person at the top to gauge interest. If there is interest, there will be more detailed discussions to see if both parties seem like a good fit. If both parties think it's a good fit, job is offered and more then likely accepted. If one of the parties doesn't think it's a good fit, they shake hands and go their separate ways. Hackett/UM isn't going to be throwing offers around willy nilly.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I don't know||
When Arkansas hired Beilema two years ago that came completely out of left field. It was a total shock cause no had heard anything. Long and Beilema were able to have discussions without a leak occuring.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||The most interesting thing to me||
is the complete lack of SEC teams. Like Alum96 said, they beat each other up and out of the rankings. Most people seem to think that it's just a matter of time before the playoff expands, but heck, even with these rankings if there was an 8 team playoff the SEC would only get one team in it.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||See TCU and Baylor||
At this point, it seems unlikely that even if Baylor beats KSU, they are going to be moved ahead of TCU even though their resume's would be very similiar.
If you go by the committee's rationale, Bama's body of work is much more impressive then Missouri. The SEC East is a far weaker division then the West and Missouri got two of the 'weaker' teams in the West with their crossover games - A&M and Arkansas. Not to mention that in non-conference play Missouri lost at home to Indiana.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Khalid Hill??||
Hopefully Hill comes back strong from his injury because I thought he was looking pretty good before he got hurt.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Depends on the big name||
As crazy as it sounds, a Harbaugh hiring in early January might not sway the recruits at all. If you're a 17/18 yr high schooler I'm guessing you are going to want to have established some sort of relationship with the coaches at the school your going to commit to. Since Harbaugh hasn't been involved in recruiting these kids, there is no relationship there, only the Harbaugh name.
Someone like Miles might sway them. Miles might have been recruiting a lot of these kids and already have some type of relationship with them.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Exactly, age and future||
No one has any idea of how long a new coach would stay at UM if they are successful. In some ways, hiring someone who is 61 might ensure they are at UM longer. By hiring an upcoming coach or coordinator, if after 4, 5, 6 years they might bolt for the NFL. If you hire someone who is 61, in 4-6 years they are going to be 65-67 and probably eyeing retirment in the not to distant future rather then looking to leave for another job - so you might end up getting around 10 yrs out him.
After 7 years of floundering in the college football world, UM needs to get the best coach they can. Whether that person is 25 or 65, it shouldn't matter. The important thing isn't whether the new coach has the potential to be here 20 years. The important thing is in 4-5 years from now is UM back to being a consistent Top 15 program.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Big Ten Depth||
Late 80's through early 90's might have been the best run for Big 10 basketball I can remember. IU won the title in '87, UM won it in '89. UM made 2 more title game appearances with the Fab 5. IU made another Final Four appearance (either '91 or '92). Illinois made the Final Four in '89. Ohio St was good (won the Big Ten in the early '90's but lost to the Fab Five in the Regional Final), Purdue was good (won the Big Ten in '87, '88, '94). Heck, even Minnesota was good - Sweet 16 in '89, Elite 8 in '90. Iowa made the Sweet 16 in '87 and '88. Michigan St made the Sweet 16 in '88 and '90.
Pretty much from about '87 through '94 the Big Ten won 2 NC's, 4 other FF appearances and had 8 of the 10 teams make the Sweet 16, or win the conference. Of those 8 teams only Illinois and Purdue didn't make multiple Sweet 16's in that period but Purdue won the Big Ten title 3 times.